mircea_popescu: sit around in govt checkout booth, then go for a slutwalk and mcdonalds takeout.
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 22:41:59; ben_vulpes: not until they install checkpoints anyways, and that'll cost far more than they really can spend.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333314 << they can spent everyone's time, because that's what everyone there wants to do with their time anyway.
mircea_popescu: i seem to remember that according to the pravda, russia won ww2 all by itself also
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 21:59:28; ascii_field: not going to rest until every non-German human had been wiped from the face of the Earth.] The leftist rewriting of this conflict seems as kooky as the bizarre neo-Nazi revisions I read in my youth, but is more troubling, because, where the right wing kooks who wanted to paint humanity’s largest killing with a bizarrely fantastical brush of Germanic innocence were rightly ignored, the lefties are find
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333296 << what's so "concerning" about this ? the neonazi retcons were driven by people who didn't own the printing presses. the usg retcon is driven by the usg, just like the soviet retcon was driven by the soviets.
felipelalli: thank you for the review and publishing BingoBoingo!! :)
adlai: (seems to be just the one)
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 21:24:54; mod6: This is a clean break point to start working on the rest of these large pieces such as the mempool.
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 21:15:00; mod6: depends on what makes sense. i'll need all the help I can get. either we put in the work that needs doing and you have a republic, or you don't.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333250 << that's the punishment for the competent. more work.
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 21:02:41; jurov: my proposition is that if packets signed by key in WoT come from an address, it's unlikely DoS will come from there too.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333245 << this then doubles as both a dos avenue (your upstream router can say packets come from any ips it wishes to say they came from) and a dos avenue (the wot member in question will no longer be able to connect now)
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mircea_popescu: but instead here, http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/migtpmjv/california-northern-district-court/usa-v-su/ have a lol at chinese woman trying to get her fambly across.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that was before the courts were usefully digitized. the only thing in the online docket matching is http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2er0oxs6v/california-northern-district-court/usa-v-trafford/
BingoBoingo: Ah, yes about the passports. If your hands are full no worries.
jurov: rather full, yes
jurov: about the passports?
ben_vulpes: either way, good show chaps
ben_vulpes: not until they install checkpoints anyways, and that'll cost far more than they really can spend.
ben_vulpes doesn't see the point on domestic travel
trinque: Some states initially refused to comply, fearing that the feds would make a national database of citizens. << lulzy
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 18:44:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-05-2015#1143203 << lettuce re-introduce this into the record. One Robert J. Hansen goes to california to help some derp make drm for the palm pilot ; gets scammed and ass raped. while this is exactly what he deserves, the story of his suffering is nevertheless instructive.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333221 << were you ever able to find the 'US v. Trafford' case mentioned in the tale ?
ascii_field: r way onto the mainstream book list. 3. Neo-conservative books promoting the U.S. as the world’s SWAT team.' << aha
ascii_field: not going to rest until every non-German human had been wiped from the face of the Earth.] The leftist rewriting of this conflict seems as kooky as the bizarre neo-Nazi revisions I read in my youth, but is more troubling, because, where the right wing kooks who wanted to paint humanity’s largest killing with a bizarrely fantastical brush of Germanic innocence were rightly ignored, the lefties are finding thei
ascii_field: '1. Books ghost written for a Fox news Op-ed figure, 2. Jingoistic tomes on the defeat of the evil Nazi empire by “the greatest generation” of Americans, revealing as yet unfathomed Nazi evils and under-appreciated American heroics. [WWII is no longer, apparently recognized as having had a Russian or Japanese component, and the Third Reich is represented as an engine of global extermination that was
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> jurov: then we stego on a 'recognizable' structure << 1024 nudes encoding!
ascii_field: so there is never any possible confusion about source or destination.
ascii_field: and you know the packet is 'for you' because you were able to decrypt it with your privkey.
ascii_field: it is quite simple to ignore the apparent originating ip because we always know where a valid packet came from - based on which pubkey on your end is able to validate the sig.
ascii_field: jurov: then we stego on a 'recognizable' structure
ascii_field: and, if it comes to this, over some other net.
jurov: well, then just better keel up and die
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 21:02:41; jurov: my proposition is that if packets signed by key in WoT come from an address, it's unlikely DoS will come from there too.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333245 << this is deeply wrong. enemy can make ANY PACKET issue forth from just about anywhere in the backbonez
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 20:42:43; phf: ben_vulpes: sure, so you're going to cap the size of ciphertext of what you expect to be nonce, which is fine, but after that you rely on state outside of gossipd (tcp packet from ip such and such) to drop all subsequent
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333236 << if you use tcp or any other protocol where an enemy gets to hog so much as a byte of ram JUST FOR SHOWING UP, you're ddosable
ascii_field: and the conversation, from first packet onwards, must be indistinguishable from rng garbage to the enemy.
ascii_field: gotta know the pubkey of your recipient, from first packet up
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333229 << for gossipd, using stock gpg, much less an abomination (time the invocations some time..!) like gpgme, is a monumentally bad idea
mod6: This is a clean break point to start working on the rest of these large pieces such as the mempool.
mod6: Not a lot really remains left for v054. I'm in the process of getting all of the 3rd party deps, listed and then will sign and find a place for them on the website. Then I need to update my build script so it pulls and verifies all of that stuff from our own host. Beyond that, I just need to publish the v054-RELEASE patch I've been sitting on. Then Mr. Vulpes & I will need to sign all the vpatches and post 'em to the mailing list.
mod6: I'll try my best to steer us there.
mod6: Perhaps these additional major changes will go in one release at a time. And, we've been here before, but I'd like to keep the changes per release down to something manageable.
mod6: I'm thinking that we cap further changes on v054.
jurov: well, if you want the fixed mempool in 054, gotta start now. it's not possible without rewrite.
mod6: depends on what makes sense. i'll need all the help I can get. either we put in the work that needs doing and you have a republic, or you don't.
mod6: maybe we can take these things, quarter at a time.
mod6: i need to quit shitshoveling and just dive down these manholes everyday instaed.
ben_vulpes: won't you end up in a situation a la bitcoin where the ip is encoded into the message itself?
jurov: my proposition is that if packets signed by key in WoT come from an address, it's unlikely DoS will come from there too.
jurov: well, the fact that packets have source and destination address is not avoidable
ben_vulpes: jurov: phf's point though is that then you're relying on state /outside/ of gossipd to run gossipd. if i understand correctly.
phf: ben_vulpes: sure, so you're going to cap the size of ciphertext of what you expect to be nonce, which is fine, but after that you rely on state outside of gossipd (tcp packet from ip such and such) to drop all subsequent
ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that a first gossip packet was a signed nonce so that the implementation could drop all subsequent packets at its convenience.
phf: i'm not sure what's to be done about DoS attacks though. body size caps? we have a handful of protections allowed by the carrier (only accepting messages from certain ips, etc), but ultimately can get a spoofed 4gb bundle and will not know that the data is spoofed until have the whole thing, and try and verify/decrypt it
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assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 04:03:08; mircea_popescu: http://sixdemonbag.org/yomu.html << the sad story about how some schmuck got scammed by the schmuck he was doing drm for.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-05-2015#1143203 << lettuce re-introduce this into the record. One Robert J. Hansen goes to california to help some derp make drm for the palm pilot ; gets scammed and ass raped. while this is exactly what he deserves, the story of his suffering is nevertheless instructive.
ascii_field: me: 'i'd be looking for a kaisyaku for the seppuku'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what was 'the lose half your money thing' ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to reassure teh investors : s.nsa actually does have 456.01462284 in cash, should the company be wound down today it would distribute ~9626 satoshi per share to investors.
mircea_popescu: company with 9980 satoshi/share in capital on the books nevertheless trading at 5500. now that's one hell of a performance.
mircea_popescu: what was the par, 10000 iirc ?
ascii_field: in the martian sense of 'hire' aha
mircea_popescu: as judged by the open market.
ascii_field: well i won't be working with $othercompany for much longer...
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the even keeled view of the matter, a person can only be participating in one death march at a time. since you're working with some other company, and it doesn't seem to be wanting to list itself, we need an engineer actually working for s.nsa ?
mircea_popescu knows that he's supposed to be doing management for the thing and has no product whatsoever to show the investors THREE years later! this is the 3rd xmas.
mircea_popescu: but if your thoughts are figured out before you sell the thing, you will forever be looking for a job.
ascii_field: if my thoughts were never figured out by independent other folks, i would have to conclude that i have finally gone mad
mircea_popescu: ascii_field just think of this beautiful illustration of doing > thinking. just like you had your thoughts figured out by someone else, so will WE have these figured out by someone else. endlessly.
mircea_popescu: don't tell me if we were in 1715 you'd have been the sort that actually distinguished the slaves.
mircea_popescu: yes. the gang of "out of wot idiots".
mircea_popescu: the next one will be called something else, and so on.
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter. did anyone buy's 21co's PREVIOUS potato, when it was called neobee or w/e the shit it was called ?
mircea_popescu: if only we had a cardano ready to ship so this discussion could double as marketing for the s.nsa next product.
mircea_popescu: the motherboard has some memory on-board for the indexing and internal kitchening, and otherwise you maximize the strengths of ddr while escaping all drawbacks
mircea_popescu: the whole txn memory mapping could be a soac thing, and you just plug memory sticks into it which each becomes a ring.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field quote as to "opened my eyes", i know where the concrete hole is from
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mircea_popescu: anyway, the "waste" soviets experience is of course to be sympathized with. controlling here is a quote from an older article, http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/#footnote_1_60271
ascii_field: the one with 'what makes you sorry lot think you get seats in heaven? there's a 20 metre cube fermentation tank...' or sumthinglikethat
ascii_field: the 20x20x20 metre one from mircea_popescu's essay
ascii_field: i live in the -ev diesel tank with'em
ascii_field: so now i have a bit moar sympathy for the pebble folk
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 17:21:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field you misunderstand the "play with pebbles". it's doing stuff like playing angry birds on iphone.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1333095 << but recently mircea_popescu opened my eyes and i learned that my desire to spend life investigating crypto and proving mathematical facts is entirely same as wanting to play 'birds' ?
mircea_popescu: i thought we never actually detailed the matter.
ascii_field: aha this was described in agonizing detail in the original mempool thread
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of work can be done to minimize wastage in this, but the fundamental problem is solved.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the <jurov> lol part : there's a very obvious optimization where you go a) i want to fit this struct ; b) is there space ? if yes fit it if no c) kill the lowest per-byte value struct in there go back to a
ascii_field: whole reason i'm at the console to begin with...
mircea_popescu: or w/e memory space one wants to allocatge to the "mempool"
mircea_popescu: which is the problem we are trying to solve.
mircea_popescu: but a firm guarantee can be offered that for as long as you allocate structs smaller than n, you wioll be able to fit them.
mircea_popescu: how to do either of these is a problem of optimization outside the scope of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: whenever you want to add something, you put it in the available hole. if you don't have a hole you kill something until you do.
mircea_popescu: you separately keep an index of what structures you have in there (offset, length).
mircea_popescu: n bytes are allocated to "ring buffer", from offset k to offset k+n. the convention of reading this is that structures started at k+n-m that are m+p bytes long continue from k+n to k and all the way to k+p
jurov: and then a medium txfee transaction comes you, to throw one free tx out to make space.. but it won§t fit
mircea_popescu: actually, i suppose i should go into detail as we have no good reason to suspect we actually agree on anything but the words. so :
jurov: re: ring buffer - does not solve the fragmentation the moment you want to reorder txs by fee. i see it as either using slab allocator or periodically dumping whole mempool to disk and reread it
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you misunderstand the "play with pebbles". it's doing stuff like playing angry birds on iphone.
jurov: ascii_field: so you say there's math-manhattan-project hidden somewhere?
ascii_field: e.g., prove correctness (or otherwise) of cramer-shoup
mircea_popescu: socialism is this great system to take hot chicks and smart boys and make them all play with pebbles until the day they die.
ascii_field: either
ascii_field: because - elementarily - there is no place anywhere else for maths types
mircea_popescu: from my admittedly limited experience with socialist states... they all eat the same shit.
ascii_field: i have not seen the internal one, save the supposedly 'leaked' pages, cannot say what it is like.
mircea_popescu: to quote the richest standup comedian of all time, "wouldn't it stand to reason that the air in your room comes from the very city that room is in ?"
mircea_popescu: made by the same people.
mircea_popescu: "oh, she's only a slut i nthe hood, she washes up nice when going downtown"
ascii_field: hey this is for them peanut galleries
mircea_popescu: i mean haskell, i get it. pseudomathematicisms that are too gnarly to grasp and so pass muster.
ascii_field: what's the edit history like, i wonder
mircea_popescu: "If the space of possible messages is larger than the size of , then CramerShoup may be used in a hybrid cryptosystem to improve efficiency on long messages. Note that it is not possible to split the message into several pieces and encrypt each piece independently, because the chosen-ciphertext security property is not preserved in this way."
ascii_field: who love haskell etc. because it reliably generates pseudomathematicisms for 'publication'
ascii_field: sorta lulzy, it was inevitable for them to end up with just this, because they hire academics
mircea_popescu: glhf to them.
mircea_popescu: "Cryptol is a domain-specific language for specifying cryptographic algorithms. A Cryptol implementation of an algorithm resembles its mathematical specification"
ascii_field: it is made by galois inc., they call it 'cryptol'
mircea_popescu: well, that's what the log is for.
ascii_field: well if mircea_popescu can locate another me but one that doesn't work a day job, he can ask for one
mircea_popescu: seems like the dream application for lisp, but what do i know.
mircea_popescu: also has the bonus advantage that there's exactly no risk of "clever" processor intructions being used.
ascii_field: incidentally, i am not satisfied with any of the proposed replacements for pkcs
mircea_popescu: not necessarily. the original attack on ssl didn't.
mircea_popescu: M and m work together!
ascii_field: because the channel is saturated at all times.
ascii_field: otherwise he does not know if a particular packet got decrypted & relayed
ascii_field: or otherwise readable to attacker
ascii_field: only if the relayed packet travels plaintext
mircea_popescu: these nodes talk, as properly.
ascii_field: then i'm a tard and please shoot me ?
mircea_popescu: suppose you build a node. your node "doesn't answer", but it DOES publish the relayed txn somewhere.
ascii_field: enemy has no way of learning anything from the attempted decrypt
ascii_field: when folks start to attempt decryption of whatever piece of shit, just for the asking - then yes, acca
mircea_popescu: a few years after its introduction to "forever fix" the nonsensical problem of "turning a stateless protocol into a stateful connection"
mircea_popescu: nobody did, until the late 90s
ascii_field: tards can ruin anything, regardless of how mathematically structured
ascii_field: is it just me or is the very possibility of acca dependent on retardation in implementation ??
mircea_popescu: eventually managing to obtain the key through the interplay of your selection and weakness of the cryptosystem)
mircea_popescu: (acca/cca2 = adaptive chosen cyphertext. it's an attack where you sort the cyphertexts in a tree, then send them to be decrypted
ascii_field: iirc some of the lattice schemes likewise
mircea_popescu: it however was not only the first but to date the only afaik scheme that's secure against acca. provedly so.
ascii_field: could've sworn we worked out some of the basics here
mircea_popescu: let us indulge then. cramer-shoup is an asym key system, just like rsa or ecc.
mircea_popescu: "Although the potential development of quantum computers threatens the security of many common forms of cryptography such as RSA, "
mircea_popescu: ofcoursethereare
ascii_field: (there are upsides! to 'nobody asked')
ascii_field: i'd even go as far as to suggest the use of lamport signatures
mircea_popescu: (leaving to reader's discretion which of the two this exemplifies)
mircea_popescu: there's good reasons and bad reasons to be a hog.
ascii_field: but for all i know, shoup is the only working scheme and the correct maximum of tx carrying capacity ~is~ 1% of what it is now
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: l0l, think the thing is a hog now ? try with shoup
mircea_popescu: the stuff of imperial nightmares.
mircea_popescu: imagine, having to either a) ignore the matter or b) make a point that the evil people are not-using its beloved shitscheme!
mircea_popescu: this will actually almost certainly be in there. gotta hurt the enemy not just in the matter at hand but across the field.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the 'encrypted connection' item necessarily reduces to gossipd
mircea_popescu: so then why are you doing it here!
mircea_popescu: then threw a fit when random barbarian landed and took your wonders ?
mircea_popescu: were you the derpy sort of player that never built a phalanx ?
ascii_field: if anyone asked me, i would answer 'a btc de-usgized from the minerals up', which means not only silicon but a non-ecc cryptosig, and a number of other refinements
mircea_popescu: but anyway, a btc with ringbuffer mempool, with the aforediscussed scoring mechanism for discounting txn, with encrypted connections and using any port is probablty good enough. hard to tell.
mircea_popescu: socialists, of which the usg is just an implementation, lose through there existing alternative. all that's needed really.
ascii_field: presumably, not classic grandfather's flintlock pistol btc ?
mircea_popescu: notrly, even to whale. gotta appreciate : if the niche exists, the plankton also exists.
ascii_field: the plankton - uses.
mircea_popescu: so far all the efforts went more in the line of the earlierly discussed tor : nobody uses it but we keep pretending yet the propaganda machine's in place,
ascii_field: took'em a good while to glue all the envirowhiner sects into one juggernaut, aha
mircea_popescu: anyway, my data seems to suggest that the enemy will be pushing a fork before the decade's out. whether we at that time have a counterfork ready or not is pretty much what decides the fate of the free world.
ascii_field: at least when i was there.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1332891 << even in the heathen lands, datastructures was a mandatory class in school
mircea_popescu: grandfather pistol.
ascii_field: this may be edging into rms&gcc territory, but the inscrutability of the turd did its part in keeping the original net from forking to death - by ensuring that all of the forks were retarded 'swap the genesis' rather than any serious improvement of the compatibility-breaking kind
mircea_popescu: "whenever you do a murder, you make 25 mistakes ; if you remember five of them afterwards you're lucky."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in what way is the rotten mess 'easier to believe' ?
mircea_popescu: of course, there's a 2nd layer of problems : had the code been neatly written by someone obviously clueful as to the fundamentals of computer programming, would we have believed.
mircea_popescu: notably, this would do nothing to break the protocol. how nodes handle their mempool is really their own problem.
ascii_field wanted to suggest it originally but mircea_popescu was on a long 'this is your motherfucking grandfather's pistol and hands off' kick
mircea_popescu: i've been mulling it for months now, but there's no way out.
ascii_field: this would handily cure the ailment described last night.
mircea_popescu: i see why they wanted to pretend, but it is fundamentally contrary to design goals.
mircea_popescu: and i am almost persuaded by now that the notion of chained tx must be done away with.
mircea_popescu: seems if you flush, you flush the whole thing.
ascii_field: and, as mircea_popescu mentioned earlier, there is also the problem of fragging, which none of this even begins to deal with, nor is anything like a clean/simple solution to it known to me
ascii_field: well there are a few gotchas, think about it - potentially a tx that is in the receive queue could turn bastard when pool is flushed
ascii_field: (this was the purpose of my - failed - experiment)
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-11-2015#1332830 << the proper test of this is to jettison ~whole~ mempool in a running node and demonstrate that not only not crashes, but consistent operation from that point forward
mircea_popescu: "That contrary to planted disinformation of which the Guardian article is a fine example, the NSA has complete and unlimited, instantaneous access to any and all information passed through the TOR network in its entirety, as a matter of course and by design."
shinohai: After reading the comments, it appears to be collective insanity. I don't run core anymore anyway but bolting on tor kills it.
mircea_popescu: he's been an outlier throughout. not more or less insane than the average for that place.
mircea_popescu: and unrelatedly, omfg busta rhymes is the best black people act since aretha franklin.
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/28c518132cbd272584a956ae7cd0c234/tumblr_mkd3hzoobu1s4red5o1_1280.jpg
jurov: though, I'm now not sure clear() did it either, because i looked at MEM_TOTAL at first lol
indiancandy1: are they a reliable source
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the intercepts were from "a dangerous ring of underage prostitute traffickers". who turned out to be indescribably dude-next-door sorta warm, cozy, familiar situation.
mircea_popescu: heh, two things about sorana, the comedy : a) i think i wrote about a dozen words. the rest is simply taken from "leaked" romanian-nsa phone intercepts (strictly illegal to have those, and even illegal-er to leak them seeing how the trial was ongoing. but...)
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assbot: Logged on 26-11-2015 19:01:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell gabrielradio. didja catch the 'don quixote' jazz on contravex ? anyways, here's a dramatical script if you're feeling ambitious : http://trilema.com/2012/sorana-comedie-bufa-intr-un-act/
BingoBoingo: How do we know it isn't already in there?
mircea_popescu: i just hope they add avahi.
BingoBoingo: Well, most american food is laced with the sugahs. Even the meats and breads. A lot of it is the sugahs that don't respond to insulin (fructose). Add vidya games. Add monsanto.
mircea_popescu: lmao they are going to dump all that tor bs on top of all that openssl bs on top of all that boost bs on top of all that qt bs into the client ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck they put in that food.
BingoBoingo: Brodinism just got a lot less appealing >> "Brothers I've been triggered! My lat has become so large with Brodin's blessings I find it difficult to reach around it and clean up after I've given yesterday's sustenance to the porcelain god. I fear if this continues I may have to use a rag on a stick!"
mircea_popescu: seems a rehash of the entire "it's okay for fat woman to drown you in her lard in the subway. it's not ok for male to sit comfortably."
mircea_popescu: "TLDR: Fat with knee problems. Fat mother. Fat people are a cancer. " << i wonder how come people will throw an absolute hissy fit should mother dare smoke, yet nobody seems to get too worried should mother be obese. yet smoking is not nearly as damaging as obesity.
BingoBoingo: "This kid had an injury that Id never seen before. Instead of articulating posteriorly to the patella, his femur went lateral while his tibfib went medial. Basically, his thigh was sliding to outside while his shin was sliding to the inside. Id seen dislocations before, but his bones were cocked out at angles that were different from typical traumatic dislocations. To me, it simply looked like his knee gave in under the weig
assbot: Logged on 28-11-2015 00:10:35; mircea_popescu: anyway, point remains, if someone [such as jurov] decides to spend a day on this he should have to use as little as possible hunting the history as that leaves as much as possible to actually doing work.
chatquack: There we go.
mircea_popescu doesn't recall the gentleman.
mircea_popescu: if i designed this, the -a flag would yield a "1024 most common english words" encoding.
mircea_popescu: dumbest fucking idea. why THE FUCK would the transport layer be even aware of pgp as opposed to plaintext.
punkman: the wonders of PGP/MIME
BingoBoingo: fwiw this tends to happen msot often when messages are produced with GPG v2 and the first layer included mentions of MIME types
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's all the result of "easy to use" tools that run automagically.
BingoBoingo never ceases to be surprised by the ways people bend GPG to produce bundles inside of bundles to the point it is impossible to discern where one might begin untangling the second bundles