mitch_callahan: shit i was using lyft when i was there, they had a $5 promo anywhere in the lower half of manhattan.. cant beat that.
mitch_callahan: after uber, the value was cut in half, and he didn't want to pay his loan..
mitch_callahan: when I was in NYC last, I was told one guy took a massive bank loan and purchased a lot of those.. and leased them out.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: smart play by the cabbies who sold in 2011 - 2013
pete_dushenski: land of the $1 mn + medallion
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lol are you serious medallions are inherited up there?
mitch_callahan: edmonton is friendly, i like it there
pete_dushenski: leave the fucktarded "real estate is our most thriving industry" torontonians for dead already
pete_dushenski: time to move back to civilisation then eh ?
mitch_callahan: lol exactly, and the design was made in paint.
pete_dushenski: lazy fucking cab companies like that deserve to be shot in the stomach.
mitch_callahan: i mean uber made the model, just copy it
mitch_callahan: but all it was was a big button which called their operator, and it was business as usual
mitch_callahan: the major company, Beck, made an app
mitch_callahan: we used to have Halo, but they left.
mitch_callahan: funny enough tho, I had a guy "pick me up" and drive off, with me left on the side walk, a la ascii.
mitch_callahan: id much rather an app which takes me 3 seconds, then calling, waiting, and explaining my location, then standing around hoping I catch them.
mitch_callahan: about the medallions, i mean, for me, I dont care if you're a medallion driver, keep them on the road, just give me a better way to interface with them.
mitch_callahan: or the basics of getting a website so I can find you for "XYZ near me"
mitch_callahan: but, you'd be surprised man. imagine companies in which the majority of their leads come from online, and they're not interested in making a mobile experience. consequently, their search engine ranking drops and their leads get cut in half.
pete_dushenski: as to the non-web 1.0-ites, what are these, farmers market stall operators ? since we're working with your experience, let's make it concrete, ya ?
pete_dushenski: cabbies are therefore highly protective of these medallions, but are obviously been badly disrupted by uber et al., which allow anyone with any car to drive anyone anywhere anytime.
pete_dushenski: let's do one at a time, first: taxi medallions are essentially very expensive and carefully allocated driver's permits for cabbies. this permit can run $50k+++ in larger cities and gives the owner the right to operate a cab in that city. they're seen as an investment by the cabbies because they often appreciate in value, even to the point that they're based down from father-to-son in the way a feudal lord would'
ben_vulpes: mitch_callahan: the monopolies
mitch_callahan: what do you mean about the medallions?
pete_dushenski: well 1. uber isn't about the experience, it's about the medallions, and 2. who says there are lost customers from not changing your website from web 2.0 to web 1.0 ?
mitch_callahan: man, but I think: what about all the lost customers from not changing?
pete_dushenski: it's more theft than rape in that case
pete_dushenski: they've never been raped by it, so what's to fear ?
pete_dushenski: from their perspective, not caring about 'digital things' is the most efficient use of their time
mitch_callahan: yea, i can blame it on generation, but i meet people in businesses who could make obvious improvements utilizing a basic website, but they dont. i could blame generational gaps, but it's just lack of knowledge or willingness to learn.
pete_dushenski: the two hours a week you can wedge into understanding bitcoin means that it'll be a decade before you sort out which was is up in the whole shebang
pete_dushenski: then there's the educational gap aka. learning curve. unattached youths have more time (if not money) to invest in sorting out what bitcoin's about
pete_dushenski: be it 'apps' or 'the frontier' or bitcoin.
pete_dushenski: youth, to the extent that they have no patch of anything to call their own, are inclined to jump aboard any train promising any sort of future
mitch_callahan: makes sense. i see "Tech savvy" older guys, even in the sense that these guys can program, eventually they reach a treshold, and dont move much from there.
pete_dushenski: as well as "boomers" very strong desire to maintain, if not grow, the little patch of earth they've thus far claimed for themselves
pete_dushenski: the generational gap lies more in youth's fascination with the new and the aged man's acceptance of the status quo as what's (mostly) worked every day in his life thus far
mitch_callahan: i just feel there is this huge generational gap. it doesn't matter what tech i talk about, but "boomers" or whatever will never comprehend most of it.
mitch_callahan: but loves the btc, for again, obvious reasons, it's outside of our largest industries control, not inflatable, etc, etc.
mitch_callahan: loves it. basically said in Canada we rely on oil, and real estate. oil is in the slumps, so Torontonians are now propping up poorer cities, like Hamilton, to keep the bubble going.
pete_dushenski: the one and only
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pete_dushenski: orlov mostly flows to b-a via the alfian-ruskie tunnel.
pete_dushenski: (the ali g - trump interview is disappointing. trump knows bullshit when he sees it, walks out.)
pete_dushenski: all calm on the western front here
ascii_field: they'll revoke her womanity
pete_dushenski: workers in Denmark, I nd that about 12 percentage points of the 16 percent pay gap can be explained by productivity differences between men and women." << http://sites.northwestern.edu/ype202/files/2015/09/Download-Job-Market-Paper-PDF-2741r0z.pdf
pete_dushenski: and women and a residual. The residual is often attributed to discrimination [Altonji and Blank, 1999]. A less explored possibility is that women are being paid less than men because they are less productive for unobservable reasons. In this paper, I will describe how much (or little) of the difference in earnings for men and women can be explained by differences in their productivity. Studying private-sector
pete_dushenski: "There is a signicant gender earnings gap in Denmark which persists when comparing men and women in the same occupation at the same firm. Many economists have run regressions to decompose the wage gap into whatever can be explained by observable differences between men
mircea_popescu: then we do open ended marketing
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2015 23:20:54; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if we don't plan to use it then it's not really much priority.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` for the record, there's no further work needed to run eulora on osx, phf got it going.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336841 << not the brightest idea with a cloud of acetone in a closed space.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if we don't plan to use it then it's not really much priority.
adlai: trading: driving + paid by the kilo for running over pedestrians
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Selections from The American Review of Reviews, Edited by Albert Shaw, December 1924 - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/05/selections-from-the-american-review-of-reviews-edited-by-albert-shaw-december-1924/
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: and may not exist today, with any client, either
asciilifeform: anybody trying to convince you of the opposite is after yer money.
asciilifeform: if it doesn't agree with the established blockchain to the last bit, it isn't bitcoin.
adlai: still, my wonder stands... you can build altturds, that will function on the network as deterministically as powerturd or phoundatiurd
asciilifeform: adlai: 0.5.3 was chosen as starting point on account of being the oldest still-functioning artifact having no obvious catastrophic (exploitable) bugs.
asciilifeform: adlai: because it does not function on the network existing today.
asciilifeform: incidentally, (1) only makes sense if not only the code is printed but with first-class concordance (EVERY token on EVERY page is margin-noted and said notes point to index of ALL occurrences)
adlai: would have more historic value to use THE classic bitcoinatron, with the benefit that this is something we can print today
asciilifeform: adlai: since i'm not certain whether i ever explained it, there were two particular reasons i wanted it printed:
adlai tries to refrain from wondering whether printability could be achieved faster thru "throw the first one away"ing
adlai: please refrain from moving goalposts in the direction of tolerating a shittierd turdatron :)
adlai hazards a guess that most anything c++ doesn't pass the "worth killing trees to print" test
adlai: we need you, who else will print the printable product?
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 23 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 1 minute, and 44 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know
BingoBoingo: Car radio progress report: buttons are getting more responsive. Will likely finish the can on the radio some warmer night next week.
assbot: Prime Minister's Media Office: The Iraqi government calls on Turkey to respect good neighbourly relations and to withdraw immediately from the Iraqi territory ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q6mYl4 )
asciilifeform still has a circa-'80s 'tape drive cleaning' kit containing, among other items... a bottle of old-fashioned 'freon'.
mircea_popescu: wholly in favour of the youths. youth excuses a lot.
mircea_popescu: then we derride youths that go around in chinese made tshirts saying they're unique. but the difference would be...
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have foreseen anyone else on the whole fucking planet having heard of isbn. it's just an industrial process after all!"
mircea_popescu: see alfie, there is no hope for mankind.
asciilifeform: see also the infamous 'ceiiinosssttuv' incident.
mircea_popescu: After staring at this commitment string for a little while, we suspected (or, if you prefer, we had a divine inspiration) that the first 10 digits might represent the ISBN number of a published book.
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2015 04:25:09; mircea_popescu: the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336798 << in the olden days, prior to mechanical cryptoanalysis, thinking folk got pretty far with 'book cipher'
asciilifeform: then light up a benjie cigar.
asciilifeform: given as the choice of pad can give you any plaintext you want.
asciilifeform: with anything like genuine otp, the 'prior after the fact' is really 'after the fact' plain and simple,
mircea_popescu: the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the hooks to use the tool any way you might want is a part of a well designed tool. this is why a hammer comes with the hook at the other end for pulling out nails, even for hammers you buy to only hurt your fingers with.
mircea_popescu: now, you can in practice have "prior agreement after the fact", to use the consecrated legal concept (ie, if someone tells you what to use after you got the file, but you "know" it's right because it decrypts to something meaningful). but this doesn't seem much of a variation.
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2015 03:55:50; mircea_popescu: but the important point is, "too cowardly to take them".
mircea_popescu: PeterL the only way otp works is with prior agreement. as alf says, there's no known alternative ot this.
PeterL: then does it need to be part of pgp?
PeterL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-pgp-w-mode/ << encrypter and decrypter are required to use the same file? how do you know which file to use?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the infamous gates 'letter to hobbyists' was in '76
mircea_popescu: these are the same people reacting to some "company" saying something vague AS IF IT MATTERED.
mircea_popescu: these are the same people who collectively opted not to give gates dailyt whirlies when he started with HIS whiny bullshit (also in the 80s)
PeterL: does using "to" instead of "too" indicate something about the level of competence going into this?
asciilifeform: (and a few other things)
PeterL: what is it going to do with the entropy it creates?
asciilifeform: * want to be friendly to the scare system entropy resource. */
asciilifeform: * with some entropy drivers, however the rndlinux driver will use
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 22:03:01; mircea_popescu: (Sometimes I think that perhaps one of the best things I could do with my life is: find a gigantic pile of proprietary software that was a trade secret, and start handing out copies on a street corner so it wouldn't be a trade secret any more, and perhaps that would be a much more efficient way for me to give people new free software than actually writing it myself; but everyone is too cowardly to ev
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:23:11; gribble: SEC.gov | SEC Charges Three Firms With Violating Custody Rule: <http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370540098359>; SEC Knocks on MPEx's Door, Popescu Doesn't Budge | Finance ...: <http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/sec-knocks-on-mpexs-door-popescu-doesnt-budge/>; SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon ... - Washington Post: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: not one of these people will ever be in wot, even if he lived for a hundred years; and if by some odd chance one did, it'd be under another spam name
asciilifeform: if tomorrow we learn that cockroaches have names, amongst themselves, should exterminators take roll call before spraying ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:25:35; mircea_popescu: (have you ever noticed that nobody ever fucking publishes the names of the agentura ? if say a police officer is ever NAMED he's either in a fringe local paper in a red state or else accused of something. it's never "the swat team, composed of x y z and k" or so forth. )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336685 << what next, publish 'names' of individual rats who spread the black plague ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 21:56:53; mircea_popescu: ascii_field "At some point I may do a similar surgical extraction for GPG 1.4.10s entropy gatherer, but this is a very different project." << i have nfi why you'd be including "software entropy generators".
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336701 << who said we'd be ~using~ the extracted meat ?!
BingoBoingo: Win >> "Catlett said police have been unable to reach him since the charges were filed Monday."
mircea_popescu: start reading rms' side of the "how i [didn't really] invent emacs" for the lulz, stay for the glory.
mircea_popescu: (Sometimes I think that perhaps one of the best things I could do with my life is: find a gigantic pile of proprietary software that was a trade secret, and start handing out copies on a street corner so it wouldn't be a trade secret any more, and perhaps that would be a much more efficient way for me to give people new free software than actually writing it myself; but everyone is too cowardly to even take it.)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "At some point I may do a similar surgical extraction for GPG 1.4.10s entropy gatherer, but this is a very different project." << i have nfi why you'd be including "software entropy generators".
mircea_popescu: (have you ever noticed that nobody ever fucking publishes the names of the agentura ? if say a police officer is ever NAMED he's either in a fringe local paper in a red state or else accused of something. it's never "the swat team, composed of x y z and k" or so forth. )
mircea_popescu: this one'd be equally nameless, if i weren't here to break the inane anon-government convention
mircea_popescu: there's no difference.
ascii_field: the ones i was thinking of were the nameless chix who crapped out 'obamacare', which fills a book case, and similar
mircea_popescu: awww, look at her! intern gurl hired to get people to talk to the phone people at her office, is now internets famous!Q
ascii_field: ah, them
gribble: SEC.gov | SEC Charges Three Firms With Violating Custody Rule: <http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370540098359>; SEC Knocks on MPEx's Door, Popescu Doesn't Budge | Finance ...: <http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/sec-knocks-on-mpexs-door-popescu-doesnt-budge/>; SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon ... - Washington Post: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> we have this already. except it's armies of intern gurlz, vs. shanninizers (gurlz are cheaper) <<< you recall, i actually published the minutes of how this goes.
ascii_field: liquishit all the way down.
punkman: sad turtles all the way down
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:07:17; punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336661 << 'cause you can't implement the os without ?
punkman: "Old gcc upgrade: Bug fixes, some speed, some intrinsics. New gcc upgrade: I AM THE LORD THY GCC AND I WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM. FEAR MY WRATH."
thestringpuller: volatile keyword was very useful for interrupts on the Gameboy Advance
punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER
liquidassets: thank you danielpbarron I haven't tried searching the bible but hopefully 12 years of vacation bible school are still good for something
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 14:58:26; asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein
mircea_popescu: this "we labeled this function comprehension so now the program is comprehending" thing goes to the fucking core of things, it's like the only wife computer dorks ever had huh.
mircea_popescu: this is ALL the compiler ever fucking does, are you kidding me ?
mircea_popescu: "Its hard to overstate how bad an idea it is for a compiler to use strange heuristics about code structure to guess the developers intent."
liquidassets: ugh....how do we save these texts...?
liquidassets: NO MP you said it about shame being a personal thing like guilt..or something. About the girl walking down the street feeling shame or not..
liquidassets: danielpbarron you seem to quote the bible frequently, is this because you know it so well? or is there an easy reference/tool to use
mircea_popescu is looking forward to when congress finally buys some "quill" to keep up with the "ever increasing needs" of the legislative process.
ascii_field: the idea was, nominally, appetite + bitcents + wunderwaffen
mircea_popescu: if the shop's open.
ascii_field: the thieves' hands are of finite-length, yes. appetites - no.
mircea_popescu: except they don't have any.
ascii_field: recall that to the 'aml' folks, ~all~ money is american
mircea_popescu: lost in all of this bathwater, any actual money to wash. the us is about as poor as argentina.
mircea_popescu: "CHICAGO, IL November 10, 2015 Narrative Science, the leader in advanced natural language generation for the enterprise, today announced the launch of Quill for Anti-Money Laundering (AML). According to recent research from KPMG, spending in North America to combat money-laundering activities has risen by 71 percent over the past three years and is predicted to keep increasing."
mircea_popescu: they did.
mircea_popescu: o don't tell me, let me guess. the guy's caniche
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck is jack russell
ascii_field: they peddle automated idiot usgistic boilerplate...
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ^ our filipinos! <<< exactly like the mechanical turk of yore, the faux ai scam is still with us.
ascii_field: here they are.
ascii_field: 'Narrative Science is the leader in automated narrative generation for the enterprise. Powered by artificial intelligence, its Quill platform analyzes data from disparate sources, understands what is important, then automatically generates perfectly written narratives to convey meaning from the data for any intended consumer or business audience, at unlimited scale.'
ascii_field: 'EYES WILL ROAM, BUT YOUR SENSITIVE DATA WON’T.' << actual motherfucking quote
ascii_field: 'PrivateEye enlists computer vision technology to actively protect computer or tablet screens against unauthorized viewers by detecting and alerting the user when an eavesdropper attempts to read the display.'
ascii_field: and just when i thought that the snake oils couldn't get any more laughable,
ascii_field: speaking of this, i dreamed last night that i was playing a pc game called 'plague', where you are - as printed on the crate - a fella trying to escape from plague, and score points also for containing the spread thereof in various ways
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS. << my view also.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tell you what, of all tech companies, all bitcoin companies, and all companies in general, mpex stuff has the most women involved.
ascii_field: the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS.
ascii_field: engineering types (and financial folks even) have masturbated to the u.s. space program for generations, but the facts do not wholly support this.
ascii_field: 'Otherwise, the hour-long meeting is sober and revealing, a brief window on the culture. For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff. The on-board shuttle group, with its stability and professionalism, seems particularly appealing to women programmers.'
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:17:39; mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:16:33; trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336445 << fuck the cursor. but THE KEYBOARD - yes. see also: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=215
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:15:37; mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.
kakobrekla: and for mp > For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff.
kakobrekla: unexpected honesty http://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff
kakobrekla: John Munson, a software engineer and professor of computer science at the University of Idaho, is not quite so generous. "Cave art," he says. "It's primitive. We supposedly teach computer science. There's no science here at all."
kakobrekla: "It's like pre-Sumerian civilization," says Brad Cox, who wrote the software for Steve Jobs NeXT computer and is a professor at George Mason University. "The way we build software is in the hunter-gatherer stage."
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/991545fd969b9cdc182581669453bfd6/tumblr_n1vtt6LUHV1rux8ebo1_400.gif
ben_vulpes: "The so-called “Cadillac Tax” will be levied in 2018 on companies that offer the “richest” benefits."
ben_vulpes: "As part of the Affordable Care Act, the tax is intended to help fund expanded coverage for the uninsured and to contain health care spending by discouraging employers from offering overly generous benefits." << thou shalt not enjoy life
OZmaster: yeh well i know they are, i got fked myself majourly by one
assbot: The problem with PMBs, ie "Perpetual Mining Bonds" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJ9qUH )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-with-pmbs-ie-perpetual-mining-bonds/ <<< exactly nothing has changed since 2012 but the name
mircea_popescu: has he ? besides the fucking point. talking about how much you make is his way of getting under your skin.
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. all con men start by breaking a minor taboo of this sort. the widest known is the "make money" derp, who can't cease talking about how much money he made bla bla.
mircea_popescu: 2. conversely, all confidence games are predicated on the same process : "is it called a confidence game because i'm supposed to give you my confidence ?" "no. because i give yo umine".
mircea_popescu: the same exact incentives exist to attack all of these. consequently, there exists exactly no incentive for a miner to advertise ; and strong incentive not to.
mircea_popescu: 1. miners are key points of the bitcoin infrastructure. unlike traditional infrastructure such as the hoover dam or the pentagon, the miners do not have to be physically discernible.
OZmaster: oh u surely mean all the cloudmining sites?
mircea_popescu: yeah. just saying, if someone's claiming to be a miner, odds are they're a scammer.
OZmaster: mircea_popescu why u mean that they dont "advertise" it ?
mircea_popescu: most sane miners don't advertise this, either.
pete_dushenski: OZmaster: there's not much in the way of btc miner representation amongst the regulars here. as for alts, the folks here are more likely to short them than mine them.
Presstrump: with the exception of MPEx, that is ;)
OZmaster: lulz, well cant argue much there
Presstrump: OZmaster, no, they pretty much talk about how everything BTC related is a scam.
pete_dushenski: those are either giant pockets or very tiny arms
assbot: Logged on 02-12-2015 06:12:15; phf: kakobrekla: hey, uploaded log files are busted, title fetches done by assbot have extra newlines, that correspond to newlines in the title. here's affected entry ids, http://paste.lisp.org/display/163299
mircea_popescu: OZmaster get a pgp key reg in the wot while at it.
OZmaster: hope its not against the rules :)
mircea_popescu: can't update cursor position until i have a hash of all the 50000 icons i put in that folder.
mircea_popescu: it's usually the wm going "oh, i caqn't have X ? THEN I WILL WAIT WITH EVERYTHING!!1"
mircea_popescu: phf i don'\t think this ever happened at the scheduler level.
phf: it's usually handling millions of other interrupts, and then the scheduler needs to decide "oh there's some mouse events, maybe i should prioritize them a bit"
mircea_popescu: this shouldn't be a problem, except they're written by ustarded children, and so they expect everything all the time or else drop to the floor and cry
mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access
phf: trinque: a combination of system calls and interrupts, but it's up to scheduler to decide what to do and when. "handling some other interrupt" is usually not the bottle neck
trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor
trinque: so if the OS is handling some other interrupt, it's not going to bother with the input interrupts until after
mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.
phf: on a console you want operator issued commands to have priority over everything else, i don't think this has anything to do with the kernel. there was a set of patches for linux that gave scheduling priority to x11, and generally was supposed to make system much more responsive from operator side of things. guy quit over "giant co server needs decide what goes into kernel, i'm done"
trinque: as I understand it these preemption systems incur a great deal of additional complexity, and some wise folks might say keeping *that* to a minimum is of the greatest importance.
trinque: "You know, when I first switched to MacOS from Linux, the fact that I was finally using an operating system that understood that tracking the mouse was the highest priority thing and that you could never, ever let that fall behind was one of the most refreshing things." << wtf kind of idiocy is this?
pete_dushenski: maintain monopoly on force so that the state may have some hope of social relevance
trinque: pete_dushenski: that guy started trying to spin a gun control narrative the day of
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Is the new Zuckerberg fake charity an estate tax avoidance scheme? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYXTIJ )
pete_dushenski: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/12/03/is-the-new-zuckerberg-fake-charity-an-estate-tax-avoidance-scheme/ << no kidding.
pete_dushenski: didn't obama have some lulzy press conpherence quote after the recent california shootings (at the autistard clinic) along the lines of "these shooting are more and more frequent and we know we can't stop them but we sure wouldn't mind making them ~less frequent~"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was mentioned on account of having been found by same av co. as 'stuxnet', and likewise far away from the pwning site and long after the fact of.
mircea_popescu: why are we redoing the flame thing ? it's not 2012 anymore, and srsly, "one of the most sophisticated, md5-hash based, windows-only piece of crapolade ever" ?
thestringpuller: and who the fuck is Steve Sokolowski?
thestringpuller: nothing but state you spent money via reddit in their name.
shinohai: i saw that. One post about them on reddit got gilded x3
asciilifeform: i also can't help but appreciate the sheer magnitude of the 'fud' surrounding 'd-wave' - as if there could be any doubt whatsoever that the box is a work of charlatanry (doesn't run shor's algo and break rsa? not quantum comp. QED.)
asciilifeform: quickly, or otherwise.
asciilifeform: now, nobody will do this for sane commercial reasons because - afaik - nobody actually required these toy problems ~solved~
asciilifeform: re: yesterday's 'd-wave' thread: i often wonder what would happen if somebody were to demonstrate a machine, costing fiddybux instead of fiddymillion, that has the exact same performance on the exact same problems using... ordinary op-amps
asciilifeform: and the snivelling little piece of shit who piped up to defend this ?
asciilifeform: (does anyone recall the very recent thread re: gcc optimizing away a certain kind of security check WHEN EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO ?)
asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein
asciilifeform: her similar attacks already underway that we havn't detected yet. Put simply, attacks like these work.. Flame was a failure for the anti-virus industry. We really should have been able to do better. But we didn't. We were out of our league, in our own game."' << mega-l0l!!
asciilifeform: 'even die hards like the charismatic chief research officer of anti virus firm FSecure (Mikko Hypponen) have to concede their utility (or lack thereof). In a recent post he wrote: "What this means is that all of us had missed detecting this malware for two years, or more. That's a spectacular failure for our company, and for the antivirus industry in general.. This story does not end with Flame. It's highly likely there are ot
trinque: shinohai: just verify them on your end before trying to submit