nubbins`: then coke /users/ start multiplying
nubbins`: then coke dealers start multiplying
pete_dushenski: so considerate of others !
nubbins`: <+pete_dushenski> you shoot them ? << so trite
gribble: Alberta Oil Sands Inc: <http://www.aboilsands.ca/>; Alberta's oilsands trade-off | Toronto Star: <http://www.thestar.com/news/atkinsonseries/2015/08/28/albertas-oilsands-trade-off.html>; Go ahead Jim Prentice: raise taxes in Alberta and see if ... - Contravex: <http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/16/go-ahead-jim-prentice-raise-taxes-in-alberta-and-see-if-by-2025-the-province-isnt- (1 more message)
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ascii_field: ah these must be sea rigs
nubbins`: some work sucks more than other work
ascii_field: gotta be in the union ?
ascii_field: what's the catch ?
pete_dushenski: you shoot them ?
pete_dushenski: there are ex 'rig pigs' working farmers market stalls here, nice kids.
nubbins`: people who have to interact with them?
nubbins`: unfortunately, they're fucked here, not in alberta
pete_dushenski: the dumb ones were fucked to begin with
nubbins`: the stunned ones took out leases, blew their money on drugs and gasoline, and are now fucked
nubbins`: pete_dushenski the smart newfies took that money and came home with most of it, bought houses etc outright
pete_dushenski: why a quarter-mn to some 23 yo newfie punk ? BECAUSE THE JOB SUCKS. and literally no one would do it for less
nubbins`: oops lul the grease ran out
nubbins`: they go buy big trucks and big houses on credit
nubbins`: you give these goofs bags of cash
nubbins`: either way
ascii_field: the ultimate addiction, imho, is not-having-meatbags-around
nubbins`: there's a lesson in here about paying labourers $70k/yr
pete_dushenski: hm, coulda sworn there was something in the logs about cheese being more addictive than crack. or was it cheesecake ?
nubbins`: the amount of drug addiction brought to NL by oil money is more staggering than the number of suicides in AB
nubbins`: fuck the oil sands anyway
pete_dushenski: "If the trend continues, Alberta could be on track for 654 suicides this year." << and then next year, a thousand, and the year after that THE WHOLE PROVINCE WILL OFF ITSELF
nubbins`: once they're done being fit
pete_dushenski: indeed, broad =! curvy, but rather signals the potential therefore once fillie is done being 'athlete'
nubbins`: i think the word you seek is "fit"
nubbins`: i say "is there an extra cost?" he says "nope" i say "lule, come on in, no need to take off yr boots"
nubbins`: fun story, installation guy says "do you want me to terminate the fibre at the pole, or inside the home?
pete_dushenski likes curvy women, yes, particularly those who elegantly put the 'broad' in broad
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, in ro cant the superlative accomplishment of thievery is being "old whore".
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i can see the connection to 'курва', but is there an etymological link to engl. 'cur' ?
mircea_popescu: that's almost always the bitch.
nubbins`: (this was the step it was hanging on. not outta woods yet)
nubbins`: there we go, woop
mircea_popescu: seems the likelier explanation.
assbot: BitFury and private property in the land of the free. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPMEdT )
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 07:55:46; punkman: I thought bitfury hadn't yet joined the "Blockchain" derps
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337656 << bitfury has looong since turned to the dark side, dating back at least 1.5 years to kikvadze's cnbc interview in which he advocated for removing 21 mn coin cap. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/
phf: nubbins`: I have another bug report with 10.11, but this one's just odd. I'll check it out tonight
assbot: Woman who has never felt pain experiences it for the first time | New Scientist ... ( http://bit.ly/1NR9oSi )
punkman: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28623-woman-who-has-never-felt-pain-experiences-it-for-the-first-time
thestringpuller: jurov: apparently the transferwise CEO is anti-bitcoin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YZt-sEOi_w
nubbins`: you did up the eulora homebrew tap?
nubbins`: also, the word "radicalized" has been media-ified into absurdity
nubbins`: i wonder what would've happened if the san bernardino goofs had gotten guns, gotten them legally, learned how to shoot them, and been primed to use them
nubbins`: man, the canadian dollar slipping to its lowest point since 2004 is really making the btc/cad exchange rate look good
nubbins`: hmm i bought a bunch of shit at the homebrew shop yesterday, and one of the items rang in as $0.00
mircea_popescu: reduces trouble potential down the road.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it is the duty of informed people to allow the uninformed to donate any resources they might unwarrantedly have acquired.
adlai: ah, i don't think such elections will effect the decision-making process of people who understand the system. this doesn't prevent the fee-donating competition from occurring
mircea_popescu: yes. so the illusion that "this car made out of cardboard is road worthy" can be maintained for as long as nobody takes it on the road.
adlai: hmm i'd phrase it the other way around. if nobody gives a shit about "vote" results, nobody has incentive to attack it. if people pay attention to elections, they get attacked, but the attack makes it seem that more money cared - because it did
mircea_popescu: like so many other things "in" bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: basically the only way this thing can pretend to exist is if nobody gives a shit, and for as long as nobody does.
adlai: you'd still have a finite proportion of the network, other miners could print votes for themselves, or just process transactions normally, business as usual, which still lets others print their own ballots
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 12:11:21; funkenstein_: Unspent outputs should form the basis rather than addresses, so that coin is free to move without changing tally
mircea_popescu: they do this with their shares, why wouldn't do this with their other assets. the monster is what it is in all its parts, not just the tail.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 09:05:04; gmaxwell: a lot of "industry" is using third party APIs to control their coins...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337689 << this is actually par for the course for every usg-powered outfit out there.
mircea_popescu: "I don't understand how there isn't more research into actual dick growth drugs. It seems like it would be profitable if condoned by the FDA." << it'd be totally profitable, but fda has nothing to do with it.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 07:58:25; punkman: "Imagine a world where people can send money as easily as we send emails" << yeah sending email is such a joy these days
mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled "the things stupid people do".
mircea_popescu: if you look at things, something like this was unavoidable. there's a lot of people who wish to "participate" in a very peculiar ustardian manner, which is why the peculiar ustarded flavour of academia was invented in the first place.
mircea_popescu: haskell is a few steps down this road, and i hope the participants have fun.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 07:36:34; punkman: they found the most shitgnomiferous solution, didn't they?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337647 << it's very dubious this actually does anything above and beyond allowing a bunch of doofuses to claim they're doing things in an academia-convincing manner.
nubbins`: vendor prob thought he'd get less $ than he deserved by the time money cleared escrow
nubbins`: there was a peak in btc price around nov 5, when i placed order
mircea_popescu: they just get dumber and dumber, huh.
nubbins`: maybe the first time i've had an escrowed deal fall apart
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://45.media.tumblr.com/22a6dd68d169cffdf6c6a32c07688e43/tumblr_mv00n8Ncmn1rcmfhmo1_500.gif
funkenstein_: Unspent outputs should form the basis rather than addresses, so that coin is free to move without changing tally
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 09:02:03; gmaxwell: davout: I think it's supposted to forget them but I think it doesn't currently, based on some of the traffic on its issue trackers.
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punkman: 100btc worth of ETH at launch, still worth 400btc now. wonder how this will turn out https://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/
gmaxwell: fluffypony: well, customers of a gambling site... probably the case most excusable to use customer funds to support 101.
punkman: didn't they get like 30k btc?
fluffypony: [11:03:56] <+davout>i know folks with 4-digit btc that also 'invested' in ethereum... <- a fool and his money...
gmaxwell: Ah, looks like main source of the pro 101 funds is satoshibones.
BingoBoingo still finding the "Jim Crow Signature Witness" thing extraordinarily disturbing
BingoBoingo: Coinbase and ButtPay are still derping along with Other People's Money
gmaxwell: a lot of "industry" is using third party APIs to control their coins...
gmaxwell: Yea, I'm anticipating that one; though it would require them to figure out how to signmessage. :P
BingoBoingo: Not to mention the "Industry" BIP 101 supporters who can sign with "other people's" BTC
davout: i know folks with 4-digit btc that also 'invested' in ethereum...
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it is still early in history. There can still be idiots out there with 4 digit BTC, though not too many.
gmaxwell: as there is a bug for "background update" or something
gmaxwell: davout: I think it's supposted to forget them but I think it doesn't currently, based on some of the traffic on its issue trackers.
gmaxwell: Mildly amusing: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/bip101-is-better-than-bip100 I'm surprised that the 101 supporters have more than 1kbtc to their names.
punkman: "Visitors to the fair were reportedly confused by the stabbing, mistaking it for performance art. The area was quickly marked off with police tape, which some people seem to have thought was part of the installation."
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Desperately trying to put the “auto” back into automobile in a flaccid attempt to put the relevance back into motoring. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/07/desperately-trying-to-put-the-auto-back-into-automobile-in-a-flaccid-attempt-to-put-the-relevance-back-into-motoring/
punkman: "Imagine a world where people can send money as easily as we send emails" << yeah sending email is such a joy these days
punkman: I thought bitfury hadn't yet joined the "Blockchain" derps
punkman: "President Obama's former Deputy Press Secretary joins BitFury as new Chief Communications Officer: "Why I believe in the Blockchain and Why You Should Too""
BingoBoingo: Well last time they could afford a microphone was when they sold their BTC at $5 per and got out
punkman: tried their livestream yesterday, audio must have been recorded through $1 microphone in someone's pocket
punkman: ah the lulz
punkman: http://qntra.net/2015/12/f2pool-lashes-out-when-called-out-for-spv-mining/ "This guy leaked our IP addresses to the public, I pm him kindly and begged him to remove them but he refused. If we ever got DDoSed due to his post, we have no choices but point our domains to his pool."
punkman: to 4 MB for the witness part, but the non-witness has same size. The reason for doing the discount, last slide, the reason for doing this discount is that it disincentivizes UTXO impact. A signature that doesn't go into the UTXO set, can be pruned."
punkman: "We implement segregated witness right now, soon. What we do is discount the witness data by 75% for block size. So this enables us to say we allow 4x as many signatures in the chain. What this normally corresponds to, with a difficult transaction load, this is around 75% capacity increase for transactions that choose to use it. Another way of looking at it, is that we raise the block size
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: "Less than half of Amerines platoon was healthy enough to participate, but this time they were armed with shotguns and tear gas, and they moved in at 3 a.m. Things went off without a hitch." << For the record this is now US policia SOP
mircea_popescu: and WHAT IS THIS BULLYING! VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER!
ascii_field: (if i knew of one, i'd have a motherfucking box)
ascii_field: not that there is any alternative to this, mind you
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337617 << now iirc mircea_popescu was trying out firms specializing in 'bulletproof' l337 sp4mz0r hosting. so i for one am not the least bit surprised that they kept his money
mircea_popescu: anyone recall what the fuck i titled it ?
mircea_popescu: i get lost in there.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/dis-rumption.jpg << bwahaha the stuff that's on trilema.
herbijudlestoids: i was in the neighbourhood and thought id drop in
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Were you still writing up something on the Tesla emissions scandal?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/r4owdc2.png << the mantises i was talking about a coupla days ago
liquidassets: On the perfect ponzi, "you kinda complete the loop and bring it all the way down to the purchase" - Josh Garza
mircea_popescu: somewhat relevant to the mobile and google discussion, http://trilema.com/2014/holy-shit-technical-analysis-is-real/#comment-115994
mircea_popescu: [Sun Dec 06 03:13:05 2015] [error] [client 206.214.8.249] client denied by server configuration: /home/trilema/public_html/wp-admin/admin-ajax.php, referer: /wp-content/themes/echelon/lib/scripts/dl-skin.php
mircea_popescu: [Sun Dec 06 03:13:33 2015] [error] [client 104.137.219.236] client denied by server configuration: /home/trilema/public_html/wp-admin/admin-ajax.php, referer: /wp-content/themes/churchope/lib/downloadlink.php?file=../../../../wp-config.php
phf: it sounds like ascii knows exactly what he's doing where's i'm struggling with simply getting all the required elements together. i've gotten as far as reliably reading gpg packets from a tcp stream, but i still have too many open questions. i'm thinking that my attempt is entirely pointless, but i'll continue it as a learning exercise. i publish code in a week or two, so that all can learn how not to write c :)
BingoBoingo: Feeding the dropped as baby crowd greater, targeted idiocies is a form of suicide promotion
BingoBoingo: Building an XT that isn't XT movement. Dropped as baby crowd parrots targeted idiocy. Makes not dropped as baby people question whether world is worth saving much less living in.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'fork so that no fork' is honest idiocy in the sense that nobody could possibly begin to process the sentence as something like a proper lie, vs. simple babble
ascii_field: it is 'replacement' in the same sense as a penny is a replacement for a 15 amp edison fuse
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> agents of dropped-as-a-baby << dropped as baby tends to lead to honest idiocy, not reimagineer how the world works wishdiocy
ascii_field: There are 3 signals that sinit will act on. SIGUSR1: powers off the machine. SIGINT: reboots the machine (or alternatively via ctrl-alt-del). SIGCHLD: reap children
punkman: don't the suckless folks have a replacement for busybox tools?
ascii_field: 'increasing the blocksize to 2 or 8MB now would avoid a split fork' << wai wut??!
ascii_field: which makes it quite like every other example of this kind of thing we've dealt with.
BingoBoingo: "I'm watching it a bit time-delayed (streaming sucked,) but I think the guy that spoke after Peter Todd made a good point that some sort of moderate action is advisable simply to avoid the XT schism. I don't know how threatening XT actually is, but if just increasing the blocksize to 2 or 8MB now would avoid a split fork then that in itself might be a good enough reason to do so." -Social Engineer
ascii_field: busybox is a long-time target for the tardray cannon on account of being used in virtually every single router or otherwise konsooomer-crud networking product on the planet
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337479 << actually it's pretty bad. the 'right thing' to do would be something like xv6, see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-11-2015#1319336
mod6: further, if bitcoin does indeed get it's own os, we may not need to worry about busybox... but until then (which could be a while), yeah.
mod6: So the current plan, subject to change, is that I'll get these packages, create a web-repository of them with clearsigned hash files and signature files that can and should be mirrored.
mircea_popescu is not really using busybox so won't prolly have one in the future.
mod6: so just keep/maintain a repository of these packages
mircea_popescu: what'd be the use of pgp if nobody had an 1.x branch package ?
mircea_popescu: consider the situation with the previous turdified victims. what'd happen to bitcoin if nobody had a 0.5 copy ?
mircea_popescu: mitch_callahan not terribly sure of that theory.
mod6: ... just throwing that out there.
mod6: some may notice another interesting thing about the buildroot package hashes (from the above dpaste): many of them differe on algo type. MD5/SHA1/SHA256/SHA512
mitch_callahan: BingoBoingo - nothing wrong with same page being served, that's ideal. in this case, I knew the lack of a mobile layout would cause their rankings to go down, which it did.
mod6: Let me know if I'm missing anything here. Going to see if I can just change the package's .mk file so that it points to somewhere in the foundation's web directory to pull the packages, instead of where ever is specified.
BingoBoingo: mitch_callahan: What's wrong with "desktop experience" and "mobile experience" happening with the same page served to both users?
mod6: I think this is a good start for a list of whats required for buildroot -- these packages are normally pulled down into 'buildroot-2015.05/dl/'
mod6: asciilifeform ascii_field: I've built 'rotor+TEST2' while logging output via `script`. I was able to capture all of the required deps from the log. The only thing that was missing from the list was the hash (easily remidied) for the linux-kernel. But it interestingly wasn't output like the others. http://dpaste.com/2RWBT14.txt
mitch_callahan: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337366 << yes, but should there be a clone of Trilema, all other things equal, the mobile one will rank better. in this case, the person was selling a product, of which they were the first result. it didn't take long after "mobilegeddon" for them to move to page 2. i'm guessing they're on page 3 now. meanwhile, some guy who added some viewport tags takes the cake.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Gender politics and the war on will. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NzmYb4 )
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/gender-politics-and-the-war-on-will/#comment-115991
mircea_popescu: in other "out of" news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/ff07f22a93b50c2116d3ee3b3aec2bf4/tumblr_mrmhs13hiE1qjv9ywo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Last message gave me the impression you were already out of Argentina
mircea_popescu: the lasting influence of argentina... now i want my breakfast sandwich ranchero
deedbot-: [Trilema] Gender politics and the war on will. - http://trilema.com/2015/gender-politics-and-the-war-on-will/
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 06:48:32; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu "the judge became an exceedeed housewife" << with all this extra 'e' kicking around you could be a raver !
mircea_popescu: da fuck, where's all the medical rap.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337214 << better than visual, that's for sure. ultrasound and radar works fine even at times the planes can't actually fly/land
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 00:58:40; mircea_popescu: mod6 amusingly enough, the itnernal logic of all this is that sitting lkike a man IS A BEHAVIOUR, see. up to you. whereas being fat like a woman is NOT to the same degree a behaviour.
assbot: Logged on 03-12-2015 03:22:43; mircea_popescu: \but smoking is not, just like sitting like a man is not ok. because one's "intentional" and the other "intentional-once-removed" and so one correlates with the bad gender.
mircea_popescu: the discussion of a is in the logs : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-12-2015#1335754 and before that http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-09-2015#1260466
mircea_popescu: this is the ideal morality for shithead generation : a) no ONE is to blame, and b) you ask "a representative of God himself" for "the whole world".
mircea_popescu: and if you get run over you can sue the company!111
mircea_popescu: instead, what will drive it is the fact that if it isn't driven by humans, then there's no one to blame!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337200 << you don't understand the drivers involved. what will drive "self-driving" car adoption is not whether it objectively is better driven or not. nobody gives a shit about that.
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 05:35:54; mitch_callahan: but, you'd be surprised man. imagine companies in which the majority of their leads come from online, and they're not interested in making a mobile experience. consequently, their search engine ranking drops and their leads get cut in half.
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 05:24:23; pete_dushenski: well 1. uber isn't about the experience, it's about the medallions, and 2. who says there are lost customers from not changing your website from web 2.0 to web 1.0 ?
mircea_popescu: they just want to.
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 05:12:26; mitch_callahan: i just feel there is this huge generational gap. it doesn't matter what tech i talk about, but "boomers" or whatever will never comprehend most of it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337104 << and why would they bother ? no "tech" outside of winning ww2 could ever produce the sort of aberrant, abhorent spending on their dumbass. not cold fusion, not finding venus inhabited by a bunch of sultry sluts and caging the lot.
mircea_popescu: way is 44th St. is like asking a Florida orange farmer which way is sky. But these white devils were willing to put their lives at risk-- not because they didn't want to appear racist, I saw the same hypnotized compliance when the perp was a white guy-- but because they are amateur lawyers: "he didn't do anything bad to me first." So we follow the script: guy asks for directions= "ten blocks up make a left." Guy pu
mircea_popescu: <Since we're already knee deep in race: back when I lived in various bars in NYC, I frequently saw what I assume to be intelligent people allow what I assume to be dangerous black males come up to them at 2 am and ask them if they knew "the way to get to 44th St." Just for my Danish and German readers who generously donate, here's a geography lesson: Manhattan is a grid, in numerical order. Asking a New Yorker which
mircea_popescu: this later sort is also the sort that tlp discusses,
mircea_popescu: guy, they got what it takes.
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 04:59:59; pete_dushenski: (the ali g - trump interview is disappointing. trump knows bullshit when he sees it, walks out.)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337076 << the whole substance of ali g interviews is made of two things. the lesser one is, libertards simply not understanding their dreamworld is not related to the actual world. the much better one however is libertard niggers fully aware of the difference, which is after all what they plan to feed on, but figuring they're so very fucking smart they'll be ok with this
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adlai likes the concept, but idiocy rears its head when such grants invariably come from confiscation, sometimes even suggesting inflation as "a source of tax-free revenue for the government, which could help fund BIG"
adlai: "Work, which [Russell] defines as moving bits of matter around at or near the surface of the earth, is not the aim of life. If it were, people would enjoy it. Yet, by and large, those who actually carry it out shun work whenever possible. It is those who tell others what to do who laud its virtues."
adlai: eg "the road to happiness and prosperity lies in an organised diminution of work"
phf: punkman: those still happen in the ghetto mostly, so not so much abandoned, just really really cheap rent and little police presence. i don't know how it is in midwest, but i assume it's mostly lighting couches there for fun
pete_dushenski is irked when kids say 'ibitha' but not 'barthelona'. be moar consistent goddamit !
adlai: poor pigs feel love to show up. what to do, they feel excluded, but ruin the lightshow fengshui
adlai: anywhere you can bribe the police to ignore
adlai: punkman: in remote unreachable corners of the forest/desert? of course
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu "the judge became an exceedeed housewife" << with all this extra 'e' kicking around you could be a raver !
phf: edc is nice, it's where large burner groups bring their last year's installations, so they can fund shit for next year. if you don't feel like getting alcaline dust in all the things, it's a good option, but seriously, if you want a proper rave, go to outside of america
mitch_callahan: on a side note, ben_vulpes I landed on this teeny bopper rap group, and they reminded me of you (young gangsta white kid)
assbot: The complexity of life, a triad on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZbV9r )
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/ << this being the controlling point
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: anyways, the point stands that all the over-the-air updates and all the sensors and on-board computers in the world can't compete with the cheapness and robustness of meatrobots.
mitch_callahan: qntra, the beautiful
pete_dushenski: the fuck... i wrote those guys up for a qntra, mitch_callahan
ben_vulpes: the bayesian driver has many orders of magnitude more.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: who has the quadrillions of driven miles?
ben_vulpes: mitch_callahan: doctorow did a story where $badpeople took control of a robot car to kill the protagonists
mitch_callahan: well then, time will tell. :)
ben_vulpes: perhaps if the world of 3 cars per american were to continue, there'd be an economic point to getting normies off the road. entire us interstate system is a ridiculous boondoggle that's going away, along with the mass-market car, and drivers who can't handle an ambush.
mitch_callahan: the big thing that scares me with the tesla is those over air updates.. who knows what's coming through.
mitch_callahan: lol. likewise for tesla's driving themselves.
pete_dushenski: ok, show me the daily piles of bodies at the morgue from all the sleepyheads who didn't pull over for a coffee
mitch_callahan: they make few mistakes ?
pete_dushenski: tired and drunk drivers are a thing, obviously, but isn't it incredible how few mistakes they make, even so ?
pete_dushenski: dude, the technology needed to make a self-driving car is not only incredibly complex, but super fragile
pete_dushenski: how well's your fancy little futuremobile going to drive when one sensor gets knocked out, along with the warning signal that it's knocked out, ever so conveniently, and it turns right into oncoming traffic ?
ben_vulpes: they'll hurt someone i tell you
pete_dushenski: lol whatever insurance company thinks they're getting a deal by having some brogrammers handle situations "no one could've predicted" is going bust worse than aig circa 2007
ben_vulpes: mcdonaldsizing of driving. americans drive so poorly they need robots to help.
mitch_callahan: one sec lemme find the link
ben_vulpes: nope, whatever costs the insurance companies less.
mitch_callahan: the current tech is pretty good.
pete_dushenski: lol it's a pipe-dream, the self-driving car, like colonising mars
mitch_callahan: from what I've seen from the tesla cars, it looks amazing
mitch_callahan: i dont know enough about the technology to comment tbh
ben_vulpes: they will eventually have lower failure rates than humans
ben_vulpes: funny how easily the medallion hustle was knocked over
mitch_callahan: ben_vulpes - do you mean some Tesla's or some other fangled contraptions?
pete_dushenski: http://observer.com/2015/04/exclusive-leading-councilman-to-propose-taxi-bailout/ << maybe this was the joo who took out massive loan, saw values fall, AND THEN ASKED CITY COUNCIL FOR A BAILOUT ?
mitch_callahan: i just envision the future where uber is the mainstream, and it's gonna suck so much balls, we're waiting for the next thing.