mircea_popescu: consider this blog post (http://blog.kissmetrics.com/how-to-calculate-lifetime-value/) from KISS metrics, a company whose aim is to help you make smarter business decisions. Not only do they include a version of the model that specifically ignores future costs, but also they recommend taking an average of three different results, two of which are clearly flawed. This voodoo-math has no place as part of a multi-mi
mircea_popescu: purchased. If you have organic customers, they shouldnt be included in the spend calculus. They would have arrived regardless of spend. Also, many people discount revenues rather than marginal cash contribution. It is critical to bundle all future variable costs of supporting the customer in order to fairly estimate the future contribution. As an example of the sloppiness that exists around the formula,
mircea_popescu: "The Model is Confused and Misused. Frequently the same group that is arguing for more spending is the same one that owns the LTV calculation. (This is a mistake finance should monitor LTV). As a result, it is not uncommon for one to see shortcuts taken that allow for greater freedom. As an example, marketers often divide spend by total customers to calculate SAC rather than just those customers that were
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> aha. now try 500m which is what 'snipe' means in the civilized world << This is job for the other (Mosin) Nagant
ascii_field: and iirc there were moar
thestringpuller: ic makes sense then.
ascii_field: (elementarily lack the means)
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here.
mircea_popescu: shinohai in fairness, wouldn't by any stretch be the first person we/i've driven to excuse themselves.
ascii_field: because - largely - cn never came in and repossessed the whores & coke
thestringpuller: because ethereum is revolutionary and thus bitcoin needs to be moar like it
ascii_field: the fact never sank in
mircea_popescu: except this approach handed their country to china on a silver plate.
ascii_field: moar mechanical complexity, more room (or so they hope) for mechanized fraud
ascii_field: in the specific sense of 'goldmansachsization'
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340521 << now the other thing is: chumpatronic engineering
ascii_field: aha. now try 500m which is what 'snipe' means in the civilized world
ascii_field: thestringpuller: if you live in usa you are not far from some place where you can rent a kalash and try 'snipe' at 100 metres into a plate
ascii_field: thestringpuller: wai wut
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 14:24:36; HeySteve: as for the rest, mircea_popescu, you may dismiss everything that isn't Bitcoin 0.5 as a scam but I do not take this view without evidence
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ascii_field: likely it then
mircea_popescu: how exactly is the world supposed to work without "psychopaths". so asshole goes and does something outright evil, and we all what, chant to purge his "sw" out of bitcoin ? hold hands ?
mircea_popescu: lemme fish the ips i banned
ascii_field: the uni ?
mircea_popescu: in also lulzy news, the maryland-based righteous ddosing of trilema earlier was kinda weak and ineffectual, when compared to the standard angry economics driven ddosen we've seen over the years.
ascii_field: wake me up when i can buy a ticket to the impalements.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the delusional notion that their lives aren't on the line is what makes people do most of the fucktarded shit they do. it certainly is the case with the power rangers.
mircea_popescu: do you basically grep for strings or is there more to it than that ?
mircea_popescu: guy knows the way to go about things he ain't doing, and wishes to inform the people actually doing it.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> actually p2p is, for the most part, the botnetz << Not feasible anymore really. p2P diff is too high. Most seems to be 1-5 dedicated recent mining rigs, so home users.
HeySteve: I mean really, putting out a hit? what if some desperate or crazy person takes you up on it, are you ready for the criminal charges?
HeySteve: I hope you continue to oppose scammers and act for the conservation of "classic" bitcoin. but this is not the way to go about it.
mircea_popescu: tell you what : the oposition to xt was... me. that you or any other "sane persons" jumped on later on or not is relatively irrelevant. and, for that matter, the opposition to pirate was also me. and everything in between - me. meanwhile "sane persons" were busy with derping at me about how "mpoe-pr is unprofessional calling out the scam".
HeySteve: I might not be the best person to judge the technical issues. but to judge murder for hire? yes, why not
mircea_popescu: "oh, we discovered the real-real-real one, it's this derp, and as vox said, this now makes him the most important rite ?"
mircea_popescu: im guessing if the "swj" update to bitcoin goes the same way the xt update goes, usg is going to discover that really, gavin has no objection to wearing a going to wear a satoshi costume permanently ?
mircea_popescu: and of course, so that tim lee/vox can say "If Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, he will instantly become the most prominent person in the Bitcoin world."
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 11:13:57; mircea_popescu: anyway, so the point of the "is random derp X ?" (no) article was so that reuters could run a piece saying "Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said."
mircea_popescu: "So there are two possibilities here. One is that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. The other is that Wright has been conducting an elaborate, year-long con to convince the world that he is Satoshi Nakamoto." mno... timmy boy. the third which is really the only one that matters, is that http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339534
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV1UJKWWoAEFJpl.jpg <<< ah, the leah goodman derp still involved in all this ?
ascii_field had no idea anyone still bothered
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 08:17:07; BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You gotta realize P2P isn't the big miners
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340224 << actually p2p is all the tiny confuseled derps.
ascii_field sees the '7.91....' and immediately thinks 'pretty good!111' but then remember he isn't looking at 'ent'
mircea_popescu: funny tho, so their target is "bitcoin community" < 6months old ?
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 15:17:55; mircea_popescu: why would you need to purge anything, i thought usgavin had consensused with a bunch of experts as to how there's plenty of room for everything.
mircea_popescu: "Taleb has been kicking up the dust lately on Facebook and Twitter, encouraging his readers to not even listen to people who disagree with his beliefs about GMOs." << apparently encouraging readers to not erven listen to people who know better than to buy in the "rape" narrative, or the "global warming" narrative is a-ok. the problems only start when power exists unalligned to the usg, then the means are VERY BAD!!11
ascii_field: herr taleb, iirc, is self-funded, says whatever the fuck he pleases
mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware they say retard on ws.
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assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 08:07:31; pete_dushenski: "Taleb’s tantrum is reprehensible, but at the end of the day it’s his own business whether he is willing to listen to actual experts. He does more harm by setting a bad example. He’s not just refusing to engage opposing opinions himself, he’s encouraging his readers and followers to do it too"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340205 << from http://violentmetaphors.com/2015/08/14/good-science-communication-means-never-calling-them-retard-even-if-youre-nassim-taleb/ and do we actually know taleb's NOT reading b-a ?
ascii_field: the reason that nobody ever ~did it right~ - and not gdb, either - is the ridiculous qty of not only bandwidth, but FAST storage, required.
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 16:58:06; mircea_popescu: http://robert.ocallahan.org/2014/03/introducing-rr.html << for some obscure reason, rr joins the pile of all the other attempts at record/replay. along with mozilla itself.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340202 << and nobody will ever notice or care, either. you've perhaps noticed the conferences get smaller and smaller and the attendance ever more obscure.
mircea_popescu: and the [same] suckers are buying.
mircea_popescu: the best part is that this works out to a 50% discount for the first year. basically, they;re out there selling adjustable APR mortgages to suckers.
mircea_popescu: VCs barely invest in their own funds. The market standard is for VCs to personally invest 1% of the fund size, and for investors to contribute the remaining 99%. <<
mircea_popescu: i fully expect the 2016 sv vc verbiage to be all about special pleading of the "employee contracts" sort seen this year. "we lose a lot of money but want you to somehow believe everything that exists is due us!"
mircea_popescu: "But the bigger problem and the real problem for investors is how little of a problem this persistent underperformance is for VCs themselves. LPs have created and perpetuate an industry of such structural economic misalignment that VCs can underperform and not only survive, but thrive."
mircea_popescu: Yet 2013 annual industry performance data from Cambridge Associates shows that venture capital continues to underperform the S&P 500, NASDAQ and Russell 2000."
mircea_popescu: "2013 had all the signs of being a comeback year for venture capital. Booming public equities and a recovered IPO market generated record portfolio company exits and distributions from VC funds. The industry realized its highest returns since the Internet boom.
mircea_popescu: http://robert.ocallahan.org/2014/03/introducing-rr.html << for some obscure reason, rr joins the pile of all the other attempts at record/replay. along with mozilla itself.
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mircea_popescu: why would you need to purge anything, i thought usgavin had consensused with a bunch of experts as to how there's plenty of room for everything.
mircea_popescu: this year they're all "oh noes, scarce resources, must replace blockchain with a napkin"
mircea_popescu: it's hysterical tho, last year they were all "oh noes, moore's law, infinity resources, must make blocks infinitesize"
asciilifeform: 'Nodes means "fully validating" nodes. The other version, the faux-nodes, the "not really nodes", the "I can't believe it's not a node" SPV nonsense are the ones that require the specification just like when an honest man meets a thief the honest man is Jim and the thief is Jeff the Thief - not the other fucking way around.' << gold
asciilifeform: and i can think of a buncha other folks here who could readily play the part of the fella with the hot soldering iron
mircea_popescu: and yeah re the src point : /me would enjoy a show conssiting of alf crossexamining pretenders.
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 07:06:13; punkman: I certainly can't think of any question or piece of data that'd prove the satoshi.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340160 << not especially hard to prove that a particular imbecile ~isn't~, however. e.g., sit him down and ask a few basic q's re: the src.
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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 perhaps an announcement that the bitcoin foundation maintains and will continue to maintain a real bitcoin client, notwithstanding continued attacks from well known usg agents on the core values of sound money ? << sounds good, will write something up by EOD.
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 13:25:53; mircea_popescu: anyway, the truth of the matter is that the usg-dole livers don't belong in bitcoin. not in any other sense than they CAN NOT be in bitcoin. simply impossible.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340273 << tell it to intel and the belching smokestacks of the 14nm fabs
asciilifeform: and virtually the whole rogue's gallery of gavinistas etc. who were shown their latrine place here, have reappeared there.
mircea_popescu: i nten million bars all over the world a hundred million derps spend hours discussing what shit they'd stick to the sides of kardashian, also
asciilifeform: it is entertaining, and i occasionally read their logz for lulz
asciilifeform: ('wizards' is where they spend all day thinking of what shit-to-bolt-on-the-side-of-the-kalash)
asciilifeform: made his richez young, and theoretically wants for nothing, but still was somehow tempted to join the usgification-of-bitcoin crowd. long ago.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340227 << lulzy indeed: 'I feel that in the interest of disclosure I should inform you that I am one of the moderators of the bitcoin-dev mailing list and I approved that email. I regret it already.' (kanzure)
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 18:09:50; ascii_field: from the l0ltr0ns: http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral-fn.pdf >>>>> http://dpaste.com/02AW7SH.txt
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 07:40:28; pete_dushenski: "Nowadays I ask computer-science faculty candidates to explain their view on the ethical responsibilities of computer scientists. Some respond like a deer in headlights, unsure what such a question could even mean." << via http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral-fn.pdf
asciilifeform: none of the idiot heresies are even in any sense new. 'multisig', for instance, is simply 1990s clinton key escrow, 'old wine in new bottle'
asciilifeform: in the keybase vs actual-pgp sense
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 14:04:02; mircea_popescu: scammers & usg agents decide the actual wot is kinda unfriendly to their ilk, "reboot" it. because yeah, totally, that's how it works.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340306 << this is the umpteenth attempt, but - iirc - the only one thus far to reference the ~actual~ wot, in the 'embrace&extinguish' sense
asciilifeform: the 'embrace & extinguish' busienss is tried&true usg vs linux
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the strategy is to throw turds at bitcoin 'until one sticks.' there is a squad devoted to throwing large ones (e.g., xt, 'segregated' nonsense, etc) and another for smaller ones (weird and useless tx types, etc)
mircea_popescu: is there no honest man that ever worked for a university ?
mircea_popescu: "You would mark the signature data as special. You are indicated by green color on this slide. Everything but the green part goes into the hash of a transaction. The signature doesn't. It's just a piece of data that's still there, but we don't consider it part of the transaction.
mircea_popescu: u're designing an altcoin, there's really no reason why you would want to do this in Bitcoin. This is actually something we did in sidechain alpha."
mircea_popescu: "Wouldn't it be nice to just drop the signatures? The reason why we can't do this is because the signature is part of the transaction hash. If we would just drop the sig from the transaction, the block wouldn't validate, you wouldn't be able to prove an output spend came from that transaction, so that's not something we could do. But let's simplify the problem. What if we could redesign Bitcoin from scratch? What if yo
mircea_popescu: "The reason for this name is because signatures are not part of the transaction. They don't describe what the transaction is doing." herpitty derp, fancy that!
mircea_popescu: ter Wuille Co-founder at Blockstream Bitcoin Core Developer ; Kiara Robles Creator of blockchainMe ; Juan Benet Creator of IPFS Founder of Protocol Labs ; Alex Leverington Core Developer Ethereum ; Tyler Close Access control thinker and implementer ; Ryan Shea Co-founder Onename ; Muneeb Ali Co-founder Onename ; Drummond Reed Co-Founder & CTO Respect Network ; Matthew Schutte Co-Founder at Collaborative Advanta
mircea_popescu: Christopher Allen Former CTO Certicom Co-Author TLS 1.0 ; Jon Callas Former CTO of PGP Now CTO Silent Circle ; Greg Maxwell Bitcoin Core Maintainer CTO Blockstream ; Peter Todd Bitcoin Core Contributor ; Greg Slepak OKTurtles and DNSChain ; Markus Sabadello OASIS XDI Internet Identity ; Vitalik Buterin Founder of Ethereum and Bitcoin Magazine ; F. Randall Farmer Author of "Building Web Reputation Systems" ; Pie
mircea_popescu: scammers & usg agents decide the actual wot is kinda unfriendly to their ilk, "reboot" it. because yeah, totally, that's how it works.
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mircea_popescu: rrently there is a mechanism in there using checkpoints, which we want to deprecate soon, but the result will still be that we're not validating all signatures from years ago in deep history."
mircea_popescu: In particular, we are going to be talking about signatures. It's important to realize here that signatures are really only needed for fully-validating nodes. As a light-weight client, you are not validating signatures, even though they are part of the transactions you still have to download them. If you are using a full-node that is syncing historical data, you don't actually validate all of the signatures in there. Cu
mircea_popescu: "Okay. So I am Pieter Wuille. I'll be talking about segregated witness for Bitcoin. Before I can explain this, I want to give some context. We all know how bitcoin transactions work. Every bitcoin transaction gets inputs, which refer to previous outputs being spent. Every input has the txid and the signature to prove that it is allowed, plus an amount and script in every output. What this presentation will mostly be ab
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/0aLpT << lulz at the trezor/"bitcoin speculation" derp. seriously, "there exists consensus" ? tardstalk references ? le sigh already.
assbot: After XT Failure Gavin Andresen Supports Jim Crow For Signatures On The Blockchain | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1jQ8HdO )
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic http://qntra.net/2015/12/after-xt-failure-gavin-andresen-supports-jim-crow-for-signatures-on-the-blockchain/#comment-81695 << see ? why even bother. \
mircea_popescu: next time you feel the itch to "drive adoption", specially to poor/stupid people, think that giving a car to a guy living in a horsepulled cart doesn't help him.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the truth of the matter is that the usg-dole livers don't belong in bitcoin. not in any other sense than they CAN NOT be in bitcoin. simply impossible.
mircea_popescu: they want a fork. they failed to ghet the xt fork going, they're back to pretending like they're in after spending a year pretending like reddit/xtcoin was anything but outsourced philipinos. and now the pretense is that you know, whatever, nobody knows anything of the last year, nobody learned anythning, we'll just do... this. which is that.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> the worst part is that new core nodes won't be sending witness data to old nodes <<< guess why.
mircea_popescu: mod6 perhaps an announcement that the bitcoin foundation maintains and will continue to maintain a real bitcoin client, notwithstanding continued attacks from well known usg agents on the core values of sound money ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, so you exposed us ? whatever, redditards still depend on usg for their daily survival, and are dumb anyway. so we'll just carry on, but this time without shame"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's remarkable how plainly dedicated to wrecking bitcoin the usg agents are, huh.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna do it ? you need a few k sq ft of warehouse, somewhere where it's cheap (michigan ?), a coupla packaging machines, a plastic printer and a few workers, no prior skills required that's it. 50k for advertising 50k for the gear gets you wll going. buy the nuts in bulk for cents, sell the packs for dollars, you're looking at 99% margins.
mircea_popescu: or w/e, Dee'z Nuts. have Dee the DD blondy your mascot, you can re-use all the godaddy advertising gimmicks.
mircea_popescu: then allow user to specify an image file and an address
Birdman: not sure if its because of the thread q difference now or what but the yield in my mining has been up between 5-10%, while my hit rate has gone from 70-80% to ~40%
BingoBoingo: theory. Fucking mark was on his arm for at least two weeks."
BingoBoingo: This is in contrast to: "We had one huge manlet of a kid in junior high. 14 years old probably 300+ pounds at about 5'4. We all hated the kid not just because he was fat and stunk like shit, he was a massive nerd and a complete prick. Some shitlord brought up the fact that he smells so bad because he probably can't fit in the shower, so we took a pink highlighter, not a permanent marker, and highlighted his arm to test the bathing
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, eth below 0.002 and dropping. i think we've got a nail-biter on our hands !
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You gotta realize P2P isn't the big miners
pete_dushenski: that btc miners would go to reddit for their latest news is pretty mindboggling
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pete_dushenski: if you can't put your personal feelings to the side, you have no place in civilised discourse and debate. period.
pete_dushenski: "By trying to disqualify everyone who disagrees with him from civilized debate, Taleb and those who follow his tactics merely disqualify themselves." << bwahaha who's disqualified again ? oh, that's right, it's 'the people', 'us', 'we', (women), etc.
assbot: Good science communication means never calling them “retard” – even if you’re Nassim Taleb – Violent metaphors ... ( http://bit.ly/1IWyPKC )
pete_dushenski: http://violentmetaphors.com/2015/08/14/good-science-communication-means-never-calling-them-retard-even-if-youre-nassim-taleb/
pete_dushenski: < boohoo everyone should be a middle class conformist and comport themselves with only the flattest and shallowest mannerisms and phraseologies.
pete_dushenski: "This isn’t just bad manners, it’s destructive. Taleb is intentionally tearing down the kind of back-and-forth conversations that are critical to helping laypeople (like himself) form educated opinions about the safety of GMOs and other scientific subjects. And he’s doing with ugly, personal insults that demonize the other side of the debate, just because it’s fun. It’s a terrible, foolish strategy." <
pete_dushenski: "Taleb’s tantrum is reprehensible, but at the end of the day it’s his own business whether he is willing to listen to actual experts. He does more harm by setting a bad example. He’s not just refusing to engage opposing opinions himself, he’s encouraging his readers and followers to do it too"
fluffypony: every time there's a new feature we just create a new separate chain
pete_dushenski: the kid can seriously cite sources, i'll give him that.
pete_dushenski: "The Moral Character of Cryptographic Work by Phillip Rogaway"
pete_dushenski: "Nowadays I ask computer-science faculty candidates to explain their view on the ethical responsibilities of computer scientists. Some respond like a deer in headlights, unsure what such a question could even mean." << via http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral-fn.pdf
punkman: the worst part is that new core nodes won't be sending witness data to old nodes
BingoBoingo: punkman: The entire point of this derpology is making more space for transactions by kicking signatures out of blocks
BingoBoingo: punkman: Not with the new derp
punkman: "disposable structure known as a "witness" that does not get committed to the blockchain" << sigs still stored in blockchain last time I looked
BingoBoingo: Thank you pete_dushenski for editting the editor
pete_dushenski: see, and here i was wondering what the fuck the shitgnomes were up to now. qntra to the rescue !
deedbot-: [Qntra] After XT Failure Gavin Andresen Supports Jim Crow For Signatures On The Blockchain - http://qntra.net/2015/12/after-xt-failure-gavin-andresen-supports-jim-crow-for-signatures-on-the-blockchain/
mircea_popescu: but in more of the same news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/9e003947beacd65a21eed3227d66c17c/tumblr_n5sr97TCCA1qkgs0xo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: which is exactly what the man wanted, apparently.
punkman: I certainly can't think of any question or piece of data that'd prove the satoshi.
punkman: pete_dushenski: sure, we can weed out the weak satoshis just by reading X lines of text they've written
BingoBoingo: This really doesn't look like the first time Hoaxtoshi has keep up a con for multiple years
pete_dushenski: this would at least weed out the very poor actors who hadn't spent 2-3 years memorising minutiae
pete_dushenski: punkman: there are presumably questions that one could ask of any potential "satoshi" during an interrogation
pete_dushenski: i was about to saw that an alien invasion was more likely than satoshi leaving his privkeys open to any sort of theft, then i remember his affinity for dsa and winbloze...
punkman: suppose Craig had whatever keys you want him to have. who's to say he didn't steal them sometime in the past 5 years
punkman: I don't think at this point you can ever have the "real" satoshi
assbot: Satoshi's PGP Keys Are Probably Backdated and Point to a Hoax | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiEGw )
pete_dushenski: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax << speaking of which, adlai
BingoBoingo: Thoughts on this phrasing before it enters the media cycle?
BingoBoingo: Now in other news... It's the right thing to refer to segregated witness as "Jim Crow" for signatures?
mircea_popescu: we wish the dukes and counts the best of luck in aleppo, and we move on to more important matters.
mircea_popescu: that's traditionally where these grand adventures against abstractions predicated on a shortage of currency traditionally started
mircea_popescu: anyway, they should have met in rome.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski because without saudis their whole southern flank collapses, and that's how they had a famine in leningrad last time.
mircea_popescu: they'll get a little, but they'll get less than they would gladly take and WAY less than what they'd need to keep the charade going.
mircea_popescu: the current meaning of the paris accord is, "the decaying west trying to parlay its unavoidable, certain industrial demise into some sort of international subsidies for itself"
mircea_popescu: china's going to stick with them, disinterestedly, quietly.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the saudi's have russia's backing, which is what the whole oil glut and cutting bahamas down at the knees was all about. they did their part and the russkis can't afford to sell them out. nor does anyone exist who could make a decent offer, bahamas' is dead broke and the eu is a joke.
pete_dushenski: "your future is the planet's future"
pete_dushenski: ^in which scalia pulls the mask off bahamas' incompetent ruse.
pete_dushenski: "“I’m just not impressed by the fact that the University of Texas may have fewer [black students if the admissions policy changes]. Maybe it ought to have fewer. And maybe, when you take more, the number of blacks, really competent blacks, admitted to lesser schools, turns out to be less,” he added. “I don’t think it stands to reason that it’s a good thing for the University of Texas to admit as many
pete_dushenski: "“There are those who contend that it does not benefit African Americans to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well, as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a slower-track school, where they do well,” he said."
pete_dushenski: "Abigail Fisher graduated two years ago from Louisiana State University instead, but the court was warned that the number of minority students on US college campuses could “plummet” if her appeal against UT is successful – something Scalia suggested could be no bad thing."
pete_dushenski: "The comments by Antonin Scalia came as conservatives on the court gave a sympathetic hearing to a white student who claims she was deprived of a place at the University of Texas due to her race."
pete_dushenski: "A US supreme court justice has suggested that black students may benefit from the end of affirmative action admissions policies in US universities because many are “pushed ahead too fast” and should go to “lesser schools” instead."
pete_dushenski: "Saudi Arabia stood accused on Tuesday of trying to wreck the Paris climate summit in order to protect its future as one of the world’s largest oil producers." << wow. 'wreck' is so apt they had to use it twice. 1st su, 2nd us. now the only thing missing is a shiny red star in bahamas' (faux) fur hat and you'd swear you had deja vu.
mod6: hoping to test it with the required packages in a test dir on the foundation site this weekend.
mod6: got a fair chunk of a script to alter the buildroot .mk files working.
mircea_popescu: "helping the economy" ?
nolanbugg: yea, i take a long time to do anything but i feel like i have a feel for some of the personalities here, but i have plenty of catching up to do with the logs
mircea_popescu: in fact the reason precedence even exists is because it's a schelling point for lazy.
asciilifeform: what parenthesizing.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50." <<< imo this is the symptom of a badly written assembler or w/e the thing is.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it << this is how it should work, actually. all the OTHER courses should be discontinued, pretty much.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER << mediatards, whats they know.
mircea_popescu: revolutionize the things, end up trading your vaginal virginity for a pair of jeans
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob. <<< kinda how socialism works.
asciilifeform: in the msdos-and-fuck-you way.
nubbins`: "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50."
asciilifeform: m sure they could have even worked SNOBOL (the language, or, heck, even the toilet cleaner) in there as well.'
asciilifeform: 'The primary design goal MUMPS was to create code that, once written, can never be maintained by anyone ever again. The syntax is somewhat reminiscent of FORTRAN and SNOBOL (no, not the toilet cleaner), only much, much worse. Ironically, being inflicted with mumps (the disease) is much more pleasant that actually working with MUMPS (the language). A more apt name for the language certainly would have been EXPLOSIVE-DIARRHEA; I
asciilifeform: as seen here, http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS
asciilifeform: the closest thing i know of to a 'puzzle' esolang that is actually used in industry is...
nubbins`: the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it
BingoBoingo: Prolly Red Hat built their GCC with Intel compiler
asciilifeform: 'Intel does much more than just silicon. Hidden inside their design centers are the keepers of x86, and this includes the people who write the compilers for x86 processors.' << while there is in fact an intel compiler, the article is here revealed as catastrophically braindamaged
asciilifeform: 'From 2003 until 2006, Intel paid $1 Billion to Dell in exchange not to ship any computers using CPUs made by AMD. Intel held OEMs ransom, encouraging them to only ship Intel CPUs by way of volume discounts and threatening OEMs with low-priority during CPU shortages. Intel engaged in false advertising, and misrepresenting benchmark results. '
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i wonder why everyone wants to spam the blockchain so badly
BingoBoingo: Another one of these http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-won-then-lost/
asciilifeform: imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob.
assbot: The Segregated Witness Concept: A 'Turning Point' for Bitcoin? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVFVnN )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, the power rangerz declare that signature checking is to be done away with. ( https://news.bitcoin.com/segregated-witness-concept-turning-point-bitcoin )
nubbins`: this is almost as impressive as my genesis-block copy of the times
nubbins`: there's a guy selling one of Carl Mark Force IV's business cards
assbot: Sorry, Chuck Todd, But Reporters Aren't The Referees Of Politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1ORPWDK )
mircea_popescu: http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/01/sorry-chuck-todd-but-reporters-are-not-the-referees-of-politics/ << somewhat lulzy.
assbot: Eating disorders: Death of obese daughter spurs heartbroken parents to help another teenager ... ( http://bit.ly/1OROZeK )
BingoBoingo: Also in Australia http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/death-of-obese-daughter-spurs-heartbroken-parents-to-help-another-teenager/news-story/eb71cfcc0fbb1dd3e78ebb1798fd0ba2
mircea_popescu: you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.
ascii_field: what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?
ascii_field: i still don't get why they care
mircea_popescu: ssesdown to the house and apartment numbersof the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: Why Cant We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?"