ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> interestingly, the longer i go without writing by hand, the more this part of brain rots << expected behavior
ben_vulpes: and hyu with that auto-downloading pdf
ben_vulpes: referredbyloper: and who are you?
ben_vulpes: quick poll: who writes in cursive?
ben_vulpes: selinux? when what hum how?
ben_vulpes: anyways, that's a nifty muntzing in the first one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: some several tb of disk would be nice
ben_vulpes dreams of a box beefy enough to run sync tests for every patch submitted
ben_vulpes: thing
ben_vulpes: "*** Update 7/18/06 *** You have to give the California Department of Motor Vehicles (the DMV) credit for creativity on this one. A DMV insider has disclosed to me that the DMV has made a formal request to a federal agency to rule if my Beetle constitutes a threat to national security based on what could happen if it got into the wrong hands."" << hah news to me since the last time i looked at the
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation. << obligatory: http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
ben_vulpes: have not, no.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: noooo
ben_vulpes: 'twasn't serious.
ben_vulpes: why not just rewrite the memory allocation engine at this point, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> about to try this. << still failing to parse
ben_vulpes: *.x << contains thermonuke?
ben_vulpes: intentionally filling a 0.5.3.x with orphans?
ben_vulpes: interdasting
ben_vulpes: probly best to reserve congratulations for when it survives that first night on the porch
ben_vulpes: ty mod6
ben_vulpes: then the machine ran out of paper and there were many windows error modals
ben_vulpes: many measurements
ben_vulpes: looked like
ben_vulpes: naw, just the sonogram
ben_vulpes: (it's a boy)
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> i do agree, pets must be exercised properly << exercise for pets. yokes for my oxen, saddles for my horses, mice for my cats, and coyotes for my dogs.
ben_vulpes surfaces
ben_vulpes: not husbandry in the marital sense, ascii_field
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: livestock vs pets
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> when i say 'pet' i mean very specific technical term, 'creature kept around for company that isn't required to produce milk, pull cart, turn millstone' << opposite of good husbandry, ftr
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> gavin & the merry band of shitgnomes used their magic key to transmit 'Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!' << 'alerts' can be delivered per-node?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [01:32] rather, it is a u.s. aircraft carrier - which simply happens to be made of earth << girl and i both lold
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ^^
ben_vulpes: breach
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: i have to say that i'm having trouble holding the whole keysmashing party in my head
ben_vulpes: hyu
ben_vulpes: > obvious proggy
ben_vulpes: "it's not inflationary except in how it is"
ben_vulpes: this shit
ben_vulpes: reconcile
ben_vulpes: do people
ben_vulpes: how
ben_vulpes: "One thing it has done, however, is put a renewed rocket under asset prices. From fine art and metropolitan property prices, to bond markets and equities, seemingly everything has gone through the roof."
ben_vulpes: "It is also true that contrary to much prediction at the time, it has not proved particularly inflationary."
ben_vulpes: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/11616509/Jeremy-Warner-How-Iraq-has-left-us-with-the-biggest-financial-bubble-in-history.html
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> which is why i stay and suffer << bail with the bairn?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> well aintcha a little bush hero :D << lzlzoll
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> fwiw i dont think anyone needs to be taught to cook << nah man it's applied thermo, it must needs be taught or learned through experience
ben_vulpes: "The net result was that all Bitcoin nodes (lightweight and heavyweight) on the local Wi-Fi network were unable to connect to any Bitcoin nodes except for the local node, which they discovered via DNS." << and this is an argument for dns in core *how*?
ben_vulpes: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34143498/ << because a .conf file's too hard.
ben_vulpes: no no, someone thinks that's a grand idea
ben_vulpes: dude bitcoin-development 2015 is turning into bitcointalk.org 2012
ben_vulpes: moreover, bitcoining on other peoples networks is bad, mk?
ben_vulpes: spv's bad, mk?
ben_vulpes: "so I poisoned the DNS and rejected all outbound connection attempts on port 8333, to force all the wallets to connect to a single local full node, which had connectivity to a single remote node over the Internet. Thus, all the lightweight wallets at the festival had Bitcoin network connectivity, but we only needed to backhaul the Bitcoin network's transaction traffic once."
ben_vulpes: herp derp
ben_vulpes: decimation: "The U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecationThe U.S. has spent, adjusted for deprecation"
ben_vulpes: not depreciation?
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: that'd be mircea_popescu or kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: besides, it gives the chan this nice feeling of inhabitedness even during the dark lonely hours
ben_vulpes: but one coculd*
ben_vulpes: <ascii_modem> pure noise imho << aye, but let people /ignore assbot themselves
ben_vulpes: wat
ben_vulpes: > bitbeetus
ben_vulpes: lulzy
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [15:09] note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT. << aha i didn't follow this one. link?
ben_vulpes: anyways, what were you thinking?
ben_vulpes: i have a spike of a pgptron comment engine but it's nothing serviceable for use
ben_vulpes: and it's not pillar-sittin, it's pure time.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: with my current availability even php's not an option, js is the only stopgap that'd word
ben_vulpes: heh durr
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: wow how'd you make that estimate?
ben_vulpes: anyways, this is sort of a 'club' for code. it'd never stop a smart or determined attacker, but it renders the cost of the heist somewhat higher than i warrant many would pay.
ben_vulpes: sure, if it's worth your time to resell the thing after writing a transform for it...
ben_vulpes: you mean everywhere?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't follow, sorry
ben_vulpes: so no not impossible, or low value, or necessary even to destroy the code
ben_vulpes: and then they have the problem of "what was it before"
ben_vulpes: or several, but unique across clients
ben_vulpes: but it would be trivial to change one random symbol name per client license
ben_vulpes: i may be insane but i think a large fraction of the value in delivered code is that others can read and mod it.
ben_vulpes: it verges on obfuscation, and at that point one may as well deliver a binary for all the "fits in head"ness it'll have.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: that's where i land
ben_vulpes: is drm actually implementable?
ben_vulpes: 'tis an honor and honesty thing.
ben_vulpes: iirc that conversation carried the context of hard guarantees.
ben_vulpes: oh you solved drm?
ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: what's that
ben_vulpes: vacation
ben_vulpes: glhf™®
ben_vulpes: paha
ben_vulpes: i'm like "a long weekend! i can get some /work/ done!"
ben_vulpes: fluffypony's tripping around eu, you're derping around vbc and now eu, asciilifeform's off to the woods for the weekend, mircea_popescu's on permananent unvacation
ben_vulpes: plus keypocalypse
ben_vulpes: kinda have a lot on my plate atm
ben_vulpes: a movie and a beer is a nice way to put my brain into idle for 3 hours but after that i don't really want to waste any more cycles on the pulp
ben_vulpes: dude i don't know that i care enough
ben_vulpes: it's not an entirely unredeemable piece of ableist propaganda
ben_vulpes: have been derping at a bit about mad max but i don't know if i'll ever poop it out
ben_vulpes: been doing that since i was like 14 or something
ben_vulpes: eh i post photos
ben_vulpes: we are all lazy shitstains?
ben_vulpes: mats: i think the qualified are all taking the weekend off
ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell williamdunne wither scoopbot this time?
ben_vulpes: whoa williamdunne not around?
ben_vulpes: dafuq did you write that thing in, williamdunne?
ben_vulpes: fucknaut lol
ben_vulpes: night jurov
ben_vulpes: derping against complicated processes is my lot in life
ben_vulpes: so sorry.
ben_vulpes: i'll redo them all.
ben_vulpes: must be extreme derpitude
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no fucking way am i adding 50 lines of code to deal with chrome's speshul. << WELCOME, BROTHER
ben_vulpes: jurov: i signed the patches as i downloaded them with my mail client.
ben_vulpes: bezzleplay, mircea_popescu.
ben_vulpes: focus on milking the fools and don't worry about the cheaters.
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: same thing microsoft does. 'you have a copy of my software, pay up'
ben_vulpes: it's a fiat contract, not a serenissima contract.
ben_vulpes: "you may use this yourself, diddle its internals as you see fit, but you may not distribute it to others"
ben_vulpes: BigCorp wants training software, is willing to pay for the professional services to make it happen and another chunk of cash for the software already written.
ben_vulpes: but for a bezzleplay, it ain't bad.
ben_vulpes: y'can't, i know.
ben_vulpes: else", unenforceable just like the rest of the gpg contracts
ben_vulpes: send this code around to anyone
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear to me how wise the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief that the current model of that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival. << i figured (perhaps stupidly) that IP would take the form of gpg signatures on "i will not
ben_vulpes: probably fucked it up some way
ben_vulpes: xmitted a *mess* of resigned patches
ben_vulpes: right before the release
ben_vulpes: mmm i have
ben_vulpes: can i come
ben_vulpes: oooh
ben_vulpes: professional services and licenses for the custom ware the software so produced run on?
ben_vulpes: is gabriel_laddel's business model really that bad?
ben_vulpes: weirdos
ben_vulpes: i was anticipating some really lame dsp-by-hand
ben_vulpes: but now mebbe raspi!
ben_vulpes: was going to wire it up to a microphone
ben_vulpes: no hw with gpio, but now that you mention rpi mebbe i should try that
ben_vulpes: thanks jurov
ben_vulpes: WCGW™
ben_vulpes: `curl log.bitcoin-assets.com | sudo sh`
ben_vulpes: "use libtool" << so as to speak "just type libtool at the prompt"
ben_vulpes: <jurov> and run ldconfig << that was it
ben_vulpes: i'm in no rush
ben_vulpes: thanks for the python bro
ben_vulpes: nah this is gentoo
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/1SJBXB5.txt << previous experience lead me to expect `make install` to, well, install all of the relevant things. trinque, asciilifeform: any obvious mistakes or bad thoughts on my part you'd care to rectify?
ben_vulpes: <davout> i'm afraid if i try on an ec2 box i'll accidentally break the internet << "we can therefore we must"
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: because i'm an esl derp
ben_vulpes: http://www.bubblear.com/reminder-get-cash-before-the-weekend/ << lol for all the printing they still can't keep atms full?
ben_vulpes: hey bitstein
ben_vulpes: s/family/nailgun
ben_vulpes: ah shit
ben_vulpes: probably wants to spend more time with his family
ben_vulpes: re: F-35 << "shuttle" debacle all over again
ben_vulpes: christ the braindamage.
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: claims to have read the logs, even!
ben_vulpes: a leading poker bot takes 12 TB of compressed data
ben_vulpes: lol you thought bitcoin needed space
ben_vulpes: everyone in that class fails out
ben_vulpes: "generas unique design makes it possible to make logic changes and feature enhancements to it on the fly without disrupting day-to-day operations of your users" << asciilifeform but how?
ben_vulpes: if you don't have a day to do it correctly, you don't need to be in bitcoin badly enough
ben_vulpes: dude it takes a day to set up a rock solid btc infrastructure
ben_vulpes yawns
ben_vulpes: !up isaackl
ben_vulpes: as with dance, sex, wine, etc. skin in the game as a prerequisite for competence.
ben_vulpes: repeatedly.
ben_vulpes: the only way to get good at it is to do it.
ben_vulpes: and /routinely/.
ben_vulpes: isaackl: your 'wallet' experiment also suffers from the inescapable existence of ease of use and security of cryptographic goods at opposite poles.
ben_vulpes: what's scaring people off (which is unimportant, but let's pretend for a moment) is the horrendous shitpile that the bitcoin source actually is.
ben_vulpes: if they want btc, they get btc.
ben_vulpes: they have staff.
ben_vulpes: no.
ben_vulpes: yeah, that.
ben_vulpes: besides, securing physical things comes down to guns.
ben_vulpes: assuming that you can even amass a quantity of the real stuff, and aren't playing with paper.
ben_vulpes: big, obvious, easily walked off with by your local government.
ben_vulpes: isaackl: gold has this vault problem.
ben_vulpes: i was going to go to sleep
ben_vulpes: ah shit
ben_vulpes: there is no better money.
ben_vulpes: in all universes.
ben_vulpes: difference between what one expects the monetary base to do and what it's actually doing?
ben_vulpes: what is "real" inflation?
ben_vulpes: this is ASSETTTTTS
ben_vulpes: my problem is finding the things that fit in my head
ben_vulpes: "this coordinate system is highly unportable, and it always ended up being an intermediate stage to some other coordinate system. Thus this coordinate system has been exorcised and should be avoided in the future. JPM 1-29-91" << i am actually growing to love software archaeology
ben_vulpes ponders
ben_vulpes: poor thing, no wonder she's spending her life in my little pony chans
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i'm going to find her photo and then doxx her
ben_vulpes: when did vexual get unbanned?
ben_vulpes: ha!
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes attempts to rerax
ben_vulpes: it's late, sense of humor got burned out at tango tonite
ben_vulpes: i blame your keymageddon
ben_vulpes: ;;seen justJanne
ben_vulpes: where'd the 55 yo steelworker get off to
ben_vulpes: nobody can do anything to increase the value of btc as an investment. it's here, it's queer, nobody's changing it.
ben_vulpes: nothing more, nothing less
ben_vulpes: a sensible btc business makes bitcoins for its owners
ben_vulpes: no no man no
ben_vulpes: wait whut
ben_vulpes: isaackl: what kinds of businesses do you have your eyes on?
ben_vulpes: and to think that was written in 2012
ben_vulpes: sounds like quite the life
ben_vulpes: evening, Adlai
ben_vulpes: and what are you working on now?
ben_vulpes: easy come, easy go.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.isaackl.1:d0dd779d88427861d58d13a6e07d75fbf1db8ea67e2735938e6bce91f97a517f
ben_vulpes: !rate isaackl 1 new startupfounder
ben_vulpes: !gettrust isaackl
ben_vulpes: !getrating isaackl
ben_vulpes: get in the wot, you.
ben_vulpes: !up isaackl
ben_vulpes: the days of thousand+ coin scams are nowhere near past us, they're just denominated in dollars now.
ben_vulpes: 21 doesn't pass the even-barely-making-sense test.
ben_vulpes: overt "greater fool theory" investments everywhere.
ben_vulpes: dude the entire vc space is incredibly cynical
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the buckshot approach to "investment" common in startuplandia?
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the notion of "useful idiots"?
ben_vulpes: the waterfall was the windmill-tilt at driving the price to zero
ben_vulpes: isaackl: see the copious historical threads on how fiat-backed forays into bitcoin are more-or-less raiding parties for the US Treasury
ben_vulpes: welcome
ben_vulpes: o you have have ya
ben_vulpes: what brings you by?
ben_vulpes: heyo
ben_vulpes: !up isaackl
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ^^
ben_vulpes: maybe fuck it, record an audio file and nom those bits?
ben_vulpes: adc on the cheap via mic input
ben_vulpes: not if i can't help it
ben_vulpes: "The key facet of the OS X audio I/O model involves predictive timing mechanisms. Instead of requiring the driver to message an application directly when an I/O cycle has completed, the timing mechanisms enable the Audio HAL to predict when the cycle will complete." << wowee
ben_vulpes: ty
ben_vulpes: zactly what i was lookin for
ben_vulpes: ayup
ben_vulpes: sil vous plait