mircea_popescu: well, if he doesnt speak spanish, he's conceivably dependent on english-language literature, which is very derpy and tends to present "dangers" and other be carefuls.
whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere
whaack: Now i'm back in NYC, which is hell relative to where I was a year ago, but on the bright side I'm actually putting more effort into Spanish here and have found time to read more and have started working through SICP http://ztkfg.com/
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 22:09 whaack: I'm leaving the US and going to Costa Rica in about a month. In the off chance anyone wants to make some btc by renting out a place there send a msg to my key. Any advice is appreciated as well
whaack: as I mentioned in the logs a while back http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666967 i wound up moving to Costa Rica for quite a while with the plan to fix my ESLness and get out of the US. I was in Tamarindo for about a year and a half, and during that time I fell into the hedonistic lifestyle of a surf bum
mircea_popescu: there's a fundamental problem with going into business when you don't mean business : you end up like linus.
asciilifeform: it's rather like if some scrap dealer took pity on the cargo island folx and gave'em an old boeing carcass.
asciilifeform began to see mircea_popescu's point re 'linus set back field by two decades' . the finn's gift to the 'self-published chats' fly eyes folx is moar or less errything they have to work with in re convincing selves that 'yes we do things'
mircea_popescu: and only for as long as the "illusion" consits of self-published chatlogs and other such typographics, and nobody asks any pointed questions.
asciilifeform: they're able to maintain a kind of optical illusion of activity, but only in re softs
mircea_popescu: there's also not that many pregnancies occuring on deserted islands. similar reasons.
asciilifeform: on reflection, there aint much that is mysterious re the opentards' collective failure to bake irons. ( irons require some sorta head, and cannot be baked via 'million fly eyes' process )
mircea_popescu: it's altogether dubious, this eating business.
asciilifeform: i suppose this is unsurprising, the ants also do not , luckily for asciilifeform , know that they collectively exceed him in mass, and could eat him if could all agree
mircea_popescu: "but what is the point of a national literature ?! for one thing, then you have to read it!"
asciilifeform: somehow the point is lost on'em, that if for erry 1 $ they spent on 'raspberry' they kept a dime, they could buy half of tmsc co
asciilifeform: the 'linux'-flavoured derp traps do seem to have common thread where 'maybe divine eye finally opens' re irons. 'maybe this year china gives us on what to run' etc
asciilifeform: would be interesting to count the ants ~leaving~ ( the better traps, are mixed in such a way that some small % can get loose, and bring back friends )
asciilifeform: i had occasion to set 1 up recently, and it had maybe 400 by nightfall, and whoknows maybe they also 'wait for divine eye to finally recognize' etc.
asciilifeform: they remind asciilifeform of those glue traps for ants.
mircea_popescu: waiting patiently in buzzing silence for the divine eye to finally recognze in them the princes[es] they always suspected they were.
asciilifeform: i expect there's a ~bottomless supply of those, if (who? for what?) ever needed 1.
mircea_popescu: not like the logs are going anywhere. by now, there's like one microscopic grouplet like that per quarter, if not month. hundreds.
asciilifeform: 0 followup to last night's thrd, or anyffin of the kind, they have memory span of aquarium fish.
mircea_popescu: "your stomach's there, what's a mind needed for", approx.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 12:21 mircea_popescu: russian, chinese, qatari, in the end there's no such thing as nationality. burta ai, minte ce-ti mai trebuie.
mircea_popescu: "but mp... it's not so much i want kids as in the bioproduct... i want to RAISE kids...." "wel then wtf are you making new ones for, plenty of already made needing your cuckservices. go teach highschool."
asciilifeform: chukcha incidentally very easily conceptualizes 'maybe the gods dun like me'. typically his problem is re the 'wat do'
asciilifeform naively imagines it'd sink in by some point, but from mircea_popescu's telling of the story evidently it didn't
mircea_popescu: maybe the planes don't like you.
mircea_popescu: otherwise -- if you're poor nobody asked you anything and if you're rich and you want kids, the plough's in your pants and the field's over there, get crackin'.
mircea_popescu: right ? so no, dood who "wants to feel like a good person" ends up doing the weirdo monogamous bs etcetera. which is what the original dood did also -- he didn't want the kid, he just wanted for he, himself, to feel like "a good person"
mircea_popescu: that's the whole fucking story there, he's trying to manipulate my divine perception, so he can rest easy. there's no composed wants like that in nature otherwise.
asciilifeform: 'but want bordeaux '57 from the teat of my sow!111'
mircea_popescu: hence the earlier comments. "oh but mp, i don't want to procreate just like that... i want a small count of kids from this one specific woman to raise together bla bla bla" is strict nonsense.
mircea_popescu: well, rather, smart money does the quotients. "what's the relation between the quotient of the bets on the swift and the fashgionable respectively, and then on their relative swiftnesses ?"
asciilifeform: 'race is not always to the swift, but that's where smart money bets'(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: not that i'm even against the effort. if memory serves we ended up with lego out of a very similar preoccupation with turning pig's ears into silk purses. so whatever, i'm sure the ruins of us academia will provide very advanced an' amusing playgrounds for the non-retarded.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:15 mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go.
asciilifeform can't for some reason turn up the orig. mega-thread re 'furniture girl'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 03:09 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall that story about the dumbest gilr in my hs that ended up a math assistant prof ?
mircea_popescu: none of this wishy-washy bs. pick and the path follows.
mircea_popescu: no, was us. and wtf, "taste". you wanna procreate or you wanna copulate ? if the former, forget "taste", do your duty eh. if the latter, wtf are you making kids for,
asciilifeform at the time was working , un-uniformed , in army lab thing, and force to sit for 'motorcycle safety class', despite having never owned motorcycle.
mircea_popescu: the reproductively-minded wealthy male has no sane answer to "why not just go to ghetto, get young cunts by the dozen and do the work well"
asciilifeform: phunphakt, moar usg army d00dz during iraq years, dead on 'harley' than in the field. 1 way to perma-escape 'dependopotamus'...
asciilifeform: sounds like the stage at which fella oughta take up motorcycle, or better still, single-engined prop plane, at least live a little and shorten the misery years
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, "what do you want me to do, hang them ?" "yes" "but that does nothing to help them" "precisely".
mircea_popescu: ustardian optimism, instead of hanging the retards they construct them terrariums, where 20somethings can play at being nine, and perhaps before the decade's out progress to being 10 yo.
asciilifeform: pretty sad. why didnt he at least birth another 1
mircea_popescu: "o yeah ? and how long's this scandalous idiocy ongoing ?" "about four years" "this suggests nothing to you ?" "we're just not fallen on the exact right exercise regimen"
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck is wrong with you ?" "what! when my father had a stroke, patience and working out every day the diminished capacities remaining saw him cured within the year"
asciilifeform: oh hey mircea_popescu was this the same fella who later was found dead on street, and the anatomists found no reason why, 'simply tired of living' ?
mircea_popescu: instead of hanging the abomination, dood constructed elaborate retardarium, where retard's diminutive capacities could be supported and entertained.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:50 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform met with some meatspace folx who rent out time on sem & ion beam station by the hr. 'bout a hundy per hr.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform to indian d00d : 'so you folx write the soft?' 'what write, 'ardupilot' '
asciilifeform: recently usb banned the use of toy choppers in the open street, so they built a thing resembling tennis court. grad students on ladders pry the little broken corpses out of the ceiling net.
asciilifeform: these reliably produce 'papers', the currency of academitardia, so bottomless appetite.
asciilifeform: then went to 'engineering' . and saw, ~100% to do with toy choppers
asciilifeform: i was not able to get an answer re why the room with sewing machines. (thought 'maybe programmable, like jaquard's loom?' but looked, nope, 'singer' )
BingoBoingo: Engineering probably just does python in their materials labs.
asciilifeform: and 'tutoring halls' run by 'assoc for women in kompyooting' ( to help 'diversity' , i.e. folx who can't pass the (massively watered down in past 2 decades ) curriculum
asciilifeform: oh apropos, luvvly lulz : in asciilifeform's old uni, they had 'grand opening' of massive 9story glass monster for 'comp sci dept' . guess what inside ? carpentry, sewing shops!
mircea_popescu: the net is too busy with amateurish excursions in phonetics navelgrazing, on the strong basis of how shit sounds to randos and a complete ignorance of phonetic notation.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:41 mircea_popescu: notwithstanding richard stallman's shameful fraudulent claims on the topic.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910642 << before this thread lost -- it is interesting to asciilifeform , 'apu1' is the 1 (afaik) x64 box still in production where you can actually boot with 100% selfbuilt bios. and 0 discussion of it anywhere on net, aside from tmsr.
BingoBoingo: The local tv is playing Maduro on repeat today. "Que llegó la hora de combatir"
BingoBoingo: Wales runs as long as the lenders stay insane
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is this supposed to even mean, "economy depends on public sector"
mircea_popescu: "Now that the country's traditional extractive and heavy industries have gone or are in decline, Wales' economy depends on the public sector, light and service industries and tourism. "
a111: Logged on 2019-04-17 21:13 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i take the pics mostly for self, to occasionally look at and remember that there ~is~ an outside
BingoBoingo: The six car garage has yet to be redistributed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They aren't poor so they'd like to see their country back. Still comes up for air. Has too many old folks latched onto her to answer the human shield calls.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what did yer vz chix have to say on the subj ?
BingoBoingo: Literally no one outside the republic can imagine 2/3 of Venezuelans have always been so poor that Maduro has reduced their percieved relative poverty to bringing everyone else to their level.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> never win [as idem]" because "all authority can do is multiply the questions", see, had they not "kidnapped sasha" there'd be fewer "questions to answer" and someone gives a shit etcetera. << Watching Pantsuit run against the actual popularity of Maduro has been a trip. "Yes, all the venezolanos you talk to hate Maduro, but how poor were they? How poor are they now?"
asciilifeform: none of these currently on front burner, but will be 9000x easier to revive if meanwhile lobbes et al produce an edible cl 'wwwism kit'
asciilifeform: ( and, earlier, with 'cl phuctor frontend' and possibly other minor proggies )
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 15:01 asciilifeform: i dun have the mempool observatory node working yet, so am currently unable to say whether this is widespread problem or asciilifeform simply 'got lucky' errytime
asciilifeform: lobbes: the html gen thing is where i stopped with the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906630 item
lobbes: now somewhere in all THAT, I'll need something to *generate* the html with, so to come full loop I would not be sad if a spyked cl-http-generator existed.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 07:11 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910378 <-- do you mean the http side of the logotron? I'm quite interested in reading&signing a CL-based httptron, for multiple purposes. is to be one of the high-priority items on my list, unless lobbes wants a stab at it
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910594 << well, I was going to attack it in pieces anyways, so actually if you want to do the CL-based httptron portion, I'd happily read/sign/use. Ultimately, I figure I'm going to need to first build a 'backend' that pulls the log data from the postgres db (probably using postmodern), and then the 'frontend' or app server that handles client requests (e.g. GET + POST),
asciilifeform: rright but i expect the current item will build similarly
diana_coman: asciilifeform: that was a proto-cuntoo, essentially not exactly the current cuntoo
asciilifeform: ave1's musltronic gnat does run on each, and so do the musltronic bins it births. however the system utils are still glibcistic.
asciilifeform: to be maximally pedantic : both 'dulap' and 'rk' gentoo tarballs were created by literally tarring up the contents of two respective boxes where asciilifeform hand-sewed a gentoo based on the classic 2015-era 'kill list' gentoo recipe.
asciilifeform: if you want another s.mg-style box, can be baked very quickly. but it does not reduce the amount of sweat needed to install cuntoo at later point.
diana_coman: yes but I struggle to understand why was it that hanbot struggled so much with getting a cuntoo first since apparently there is actually this image that is frozen and usable
asciilifeform: there is not however a mechanism for 'convert from stone age gentoo to cuntoo w/out nuking disk', afaik .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: re dulap-tarball, does that mean that it's in fact *that* the gentoo image hanbot was looking for as stepping stone towards cuntoo? i.e. deploy that first and then from there move on to cuntoo?
asciilifeform: iirc errything connected with the ameri-tropics is common in cr.
mircea_popescu: (me knows this specifically, has seen the frog in question with own eyes, grown etc)
asciilifeform: this entirely troo. in south sovok we had both hemp and poppies growing wild, neither was smoked by ~anyone
mircea_popescu: and even today, the poppy zones are VERY specific.
mircea_popescu: the objection is sound on the face, but nevertheless for some unknown to me reason it seems not to prevail.
asciilifeform: i expect it means 'so little cocaine as to not be worth extracting' then. ( must be similar to the case with the poison frog ? y'know, the little colourful one. they grow a++ in terrarium, but entirely safe to eat )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910631 << i defo aint expert on subj, but what means 'not very good' coca ? afaik there is exactly 1 active organic in it -- 'not good' is simply when less ? oughta still be worth sumthing neh
mircea_popescu: right ? cancerous fags at work.
asciilifeform: ( these gentoos were based on what asciilifeform uses personally in torture room. )
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910534 << kinda stuck with remote-install until we actually have a standard thing. superficially one could lay into pizarro, "you dorks, get a standard os going already", but a) only likely effect is to provide yet another crevice to hide from only job of pizarro, which still sits undone ; b) it's unclear they have the manpower anyway and c) in relation to b it's neither desirable to limit
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910633 << there's actually not 1 but 2 'standard os' available in piz ( 'rk' and 'dulap' tarballs ) but both are stone age gentoos, they are obsoleted by cuntoo (when the latter is pronounced baked, but really even nao, it is impossible to e.g. 'emerge' packages on the vintage gentoo, the upstream package repos went full tard year ago )
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910431 << myeah, turns out the only possible manner of running wireless off laptop is by cabling into router and setting router to connect to wifi. ridoinculous concoction, but what can you do.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910612 << if it's an older lappy, can do what i did with 'x60' ( stuff in 'atheros' mpci card ) , these -- worked
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:04 mircea_popescu: besides, i don't even believe the comparison's adequate. as experience proves time and again, every single other channel is 100% a by-headcount affair, there's no substance and no quality anywhere else, but strictly a brutish dedication to quantity.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910609 << i've yet to encounter that mythical beast -- heathen chan that's distinguishable from sewer
mircea_popescu: the one true nation of poor people is Stupid.
mircea_popescu: russian, chinese, qatari, in the end there's no such thing as nationality. burta ai, minte ce-ti mai trebuie.
diana_coman: I suppose the slop-feeding is in itself test enough - if one actually likes it and doesn't ever see any problem with it then it's precisely fit, what.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 15:51 mircea_popescu: but instead, "совки vs. либерасты" hurr. they reconstructed "the dilemma", truly more meaningful than their lesser brethren's "coke vs pepsi", but to them ~just as meaningless~. the fucking point is that they ~want~ the "superiority" of http://trilema.com/2014/fred-quimby-and-ancient-evils/#footnote_5_53722
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 15:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on meditation, that piece makes it plainly evident redditardation is ~generational~, not ideological. there sit the russki kids, who'd be in a fine position to understand the problem. god knows they have much better access to much better priors that readily illuminate it.
mircea_popescu: perpetually and predictably the exact same "well, so far incan empire's feeding me slop, so ima sit on ass and be skeptical about things". hence all the references to that wunderbar story of prikoke
diana_coman: it's such a well-worn ditch they dug themselves into that there isn't even an alternative failure mode anymore, huh
mircea_popescu: it's remarkably how exactly the same these go once one's experienced enough to distinguish the irrelevancy they compose their "personality" and "differences" and "speshulness" out of.
mircea_popescu: yes, someone tried to talk to the guy behind it -- pretty sure the someone was me ; pretty sure it went substantially like "techrights" thing recently.
diana_coman: did anyone try to talk to the guy behind it?
a111: Logged on 2019-03-06 09:41 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-05#1900506 <-- I defo wanna make this, can start working on it after I finish the current scheduled items . I'm missing some deadlines myself (got sidetracked by the more urgent need for mirroring gutenberg) and currently working to get back on track
diana_coman: it seems to me that there are sadly quite a few things that end up like that and it's infuriating
mircea_popescu: someone was even going to implement it, which is the last i heard of it.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, do you recall what was the format for exclusion on btcbase search ?
diana_coman: re p.bvulpes - we actually don't have any alternative there, do we?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:04 mircea_popescu: besides, i don't even believe the comparison's adequate. as experience proves time and again, every single other channel is 100% a by-headcount affair, there's no substance and no quality anywhere else, but strictly a brutish dedication to quantity.
mircea_popescu: frankness always the winning policy ; and besides, always better to make these as ~forward looking~ statements, for the same reason it helps people trying to lose weight.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 00:28 mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, The Bitcoin Foundation's monthly State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-May/000329.html
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910580 << prolly time to drop the phraseology and settle for a more adequately modest http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html sorta thing, "this is what i intend to do". doesn't it get akward to "oh, state of bitcoin address, mod6 did this mod6 did that mod6 did the other" ?
mircea_popescu: that the inane cocksucker does spent as much as one waking hour at any point doing anything besides sucking our collective dick for this is in itself such an immoral affront to any sense and all sensibility as few pantsuits could ever hope to match.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding richard stallman's shameful fraudulent claims on the topic.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 11:33 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910006 << there is, for the record, nothing disqualifying or "bad" about 15 year old kernels. for one thing, pretty muich all the cpus that can be used for any serious purpose are that old or older ; for the other thing i actually use kernels that are that old or older.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 20:26 asciilifeform: it saddens asciilifeform to end up loading up on x86 , but unless there is sudden breakthrough , this is what must be done
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910550 << having a pile of amds is not the worst fate. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910082 and all that.
mircea_popescu: it historically worked -- eg trinque birthed cuntoo etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910534 << kinda stuck with remote-install until we actually have a standard thing. superficially one could lay into pizarro, "you dorks, get a standard os going already", but a) only likely effect is to provide yet another crevice to hide from only job of pizarro, which still sits undone ; b) it's unclear they have the manpower anyway and c) in relation to b it's neither desirable to limit
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 17:04 asciilifeform: they not only breed but the n+1st gen goes 'yeah i'ma live here, and wake up at 400hrs for matins, and then drive tractor, or horse if out of petrol' and it goes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910484 << the alternative being what, "subway to office to be rich" ? nicole has some stories about how that goes.
mircea_popescu: never win [as idem]" because "all authority can do is multiply the questions", see, had they not "kidnapped sasha" there'd be fewer "questions to answer" and someone gives a shit etcetera.
mircea_popescu: the idea being, transparently enough, that in pantsuitist alt-reality "putin [as pantsuit defines the term] can
mircea_popescu: "i have three questions : why did you invade the ukraine, what happened to my classmate sasha and why did the bell ring halfway through the period"
mircea_popescu: this obnoxious точило cunt with the requisite humongo glasses, misshapen teeth etc raises her hand
mircea_popescu: after break they reconvene. "any kids wanna ask questions ?"
mircea_popescu: everyone gasps, "omfg, THIS is what's burning you ?" and then just as putin starts "well...." the bell rings and class is dismissed.
mircea_popescu: "my name's sasha and i want to ask : why did you invade the ukraine ?"
mircea_popescu: the mommentuous occasion occurs, kid raises hand
mircea_popescu: school administration tells kids they really shouldn't ask any questions that aren't burning and of great interest to them personally.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 16:27 asciilifeform: iguess usg accomplished ~sumthing~, lol, nao they can stink about 'spooled onto tank treads' for 30 yrs like they do over cn
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910453 << then again nothing factually has to happen for the pantsuit to pantsuit.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 14:46 asciilifeform: ( and iirc even there, had to hand-patch the module sores so it'd reset properly )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910431 << myeah, turns out the only possible manner of running wireless off laptop is by cabling into router and setting router to connect to wifi. ridoinculous concoction, but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: and so it goes -- i spend hours here gladly each day ; i can barely summon the interest by the quarter hour, sporadically, a time or two ~in all eternity~ for some other joint. the same standards eminently do not apply, can't possibly apply.
mircea_popescu: trilema may exist in any count ; nothing else may dare pretend to existence short of millions. precisely in the manner a good car may cost whatever it costs ; but a cheap car'd better be fucking cheap.
mircea_popescu: besides, i don't even believe the comparison's adequate. as experience proves time and again, every single other channel is 100% a by-headcount affair, there's no substance and no quality anywhere else, but strictly a brutish dedication to quantity.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 08:17 mp_en_viaje: ah so ~any time in may works ? ok, ima definitely get to it by then.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 13:18 mp_en_viaje is in the exact lounge of http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#selection-75.0-79.116
spyked: until then, list remains open for new items (although it's not like there isn't enough there as it is)
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 08:03 mp_en_viaje: and speaking of things on the todo list : http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-24#1904208 ? http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901636 / http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904685 ?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910403 <-- ftr, /me plans to post the next items on his todo list sometime next week, after a coupla photoposts
a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 05:46 lobbes: So with the release of the auctionbot vpatch the next item up in my list was the auto-bidding. However, I'm thinking I may bump the "logotron for #pizarro" item up (eventually releasing as a vpatch). Going to take a stab at making it 100% common lisp.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910378 <-- do you mean the http side of the logotron? I'm quite interested in reading&signing a CL-based httptron, for multiple purposes. is to be one of the high-priority items on my list, unless lobbes wants a stab at it
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:53 mircea_popescu: spykedbot well, the google translate approach is dubious at best, but at least ~it handles all inputs~. this is an important property.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-30 12:17 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910275 <-- http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816494 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837150 (possibly other threads)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:10 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910057 << while not necessarily mutually exclusive, I understood the two branches as "those who want to import postgres as a dependence (logbot/logbot-command-router) and those who don't (ircbot/trilemabot)".
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910134 <-- makes lotsa sense, actually, so I'll leave it until someone for some reason needs to put a trilemabot in their logbot
spyked: anyways, greetings from the shores of Bega!
mod6: For what it's worth, still probably way out of my element on the whole thing, but can't hurt to read up on it.
mod6: http://104.131.72.249/log/2019-05-01#1910410 << >> http://104.131.72.249/log/2019-04-17#1908744 << I still need to get familiarized with this. I haven't had a chance yet in April. Will try to dig in over the next week.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, The Bitcoin Foundation's monthly State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-May/000329.html
asciilifeform: the 1 place where it wins ( aside from 'can use x64 gnat' ) is that it has (not 1 but 3) slots for msata.
asciilifeform: interestingly, the disappearance of the 2gb rk has made the apu1 just about price-equivalent with rk . ( tho it ~does~ occupy 5x the physical space, and eat 4x the current )
asciilifeform: ( above is not ~directly~ piz-pertinent, but ~does~ make it 9000x easier to develop rom payloads for the thing )
asciilifeform: among other virtues, it's the only currently produced box that worx with sage device .
asciilifeform: i have for several yrs nao , 2 of these going in the torture room ( the old 2GB ver. ) , w/various probes soldered in, for various purposes
asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is series of 12v-powered amd64 boxen with published schematics, afaik the only such that's still in production )
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
asciilifeform: btw interestingly, the folx who make apu* , price the apu1 higher than far moar recent box , w/faster specs, evidently we aint the only folx who like classical (i.e. pre-fritzchip ) g-series .
asciilifeform: i would really like the thing to reach stability (of whatever sort can be achieved in near term) before i burn it to rom tho
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently i'm thinking, 2 x dulap-style, 2 x 1u w/ ea. 4 x apu1 'amd g' where cuntoo in write-protected rom . ( i have a rom booter for the latter, built on ancient 'coreboot' )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will do the calculation with the statement compilation. Will confirm the refuel's receipt this week. Today is international commie day so the whole country is sorta closed.
asciilifeform: ( x is what remains after the most recent dc refuel by asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: and incidentally, BingoBoingo , asciilifeform owes 1btc + x to piz . plox to determine x , and i'ma pay it in iron , at the moment when we come to final decision re next iron set.
asciilifeform: what do i then tell people, 'yes canhaz ada, but dun use thread' lol.
asciilifeform: granted , rk worx fine for 'traditional' soft, e.g. mp's wp ; but let's say 'tmsr dns' or other adatronic proggy becomes part of typical use, then wat.
BingoBoingo: Right, this is where we were at last time this popped up, leaning towards totally AMD64 run and have only moved more towards that with silence on the arm64 front
asciilifeform: it saddens asciilifeform to end up loading up on x86 , but unless there is sudden breakthrough , this is what must be done
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: diana_coman provoked me to think : until arm64 gnat is fixed ( and we dun know when this will be! cuz ave1 is MIA ! ) it does not make sense to expand the rk pilot plant . do we want instead to fill the next crate entirely with amd ? let's make a decision on this in the near term, so that we can put down a definite date re next buildout
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 19:36 trinque: reading the logs since I departed, seems like it'd be helpful to do another post (after a bunch of sig verifications) where I do a literate version of the script
diana_coman will go to dig the log + hanbot's blog and re-load re what went wrong exactly
asciilifeform: diana_coman: one we install additional units, this machine will be listed in the catalogue next to rk. ( presently the only available unit is the one discussed earlier, and only by special arrangement as with hanbot )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i stand corrected then
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have not. The machine I am working on that with needs some parts, hence the call for importables.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I meant to proclaim what Pizarro did and does, not to claim that it'll be available forever or anything; but honestly, I went all-ways on the website and could-not-find-anything on this
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo has performed a successful beta-cuntoo installation , for own needs. you may choose to delegate the task to him.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would proclaim moar loudly that it is 'standard' , but i have no way to guarantee the continued availability of this (or other) particular iron, given as i do not manufacture it , and there is no plan to ever obtain it 'new from factory' , 'clean' amd is no longer produced.
asciilifeform: there is a qty of 1tb samsungs in stock .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed , this is the de-facto piz standard for x86 . on acct of cost , availability, and asciilifeform-approved vintage of subcomponents
diana_coman: re run: does this mean that currently this is the de-facto "pizarro-iron amd" preferred spec ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: ok; can you point me please to spec of the machine as I don't fully have it in-head?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to answer the 2nd q, the next delivery run is slated to include two additional machines of the same type.
asciilifeform: it is actually the snsa spare , BingoBoingo and asciilifeform were leasing it out to hanbot at colo rate , with mp's permission.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there is exactly 1 idle amd box currently.
asciilifeform: afaik 100% of hanbot's problem was in the experimental (cuntoo) soft
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am not aware of hanbot lodging a complaint re ~the iron~ ( plz point to log if missed )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo judging by hanbot's experience though with that machine, it's not exactly the best for this sort of thing? or what was the trouble? also: will there be more provision after the planned pizarro-run (when will that be)? why does this feel like pulling teeth anyway
asciilifeform ate considerable qty of sturgeon caviar , as a boy , cuz in su was quite available. they pissed on the cartel, with enthusiasm , and if were alive today, would piss still, and not only on this one
asciilifeform: ... rather like the case of sturgeon caviar. turns out, sturgeon grows a++ in captivity. but nobody's in any hurry to drive its price to the physically-available min.
BingoBoingo: Other continents get opium, or in Africa's case Jenkem.
asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp how it is that no one managed to breed a coca that grows on other continents
BingoBoingo: The Paraguayo brick weed sets a price floor, gets distributed to much of the continent. No reason for the places that can grow coca to grow lower margin cash crop.
BingoBoingo: Cheaper in Paraguay. Paraguay is the continent's top producer. Uruguay legalizing doesn't kill Paraguay's farms.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why do they go to para- to buy it ? i thought it was entirely available in uru-
BingoBoingo: Mostly i suspect they go to bring a brick of weed back in their rent-a-car, but... rumors and innuendo
BingoBoingo: Well, the Uruguayos use it as a sort of Mexico. Cheaper more lawless place to vacation.
BingoBoingo: Well, tourism is the non-ag income here. Lots of visa free arrangements that aren't necessarily reciprocal for the Uruguayo passport holders
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they have 'visa-free' treaty with ru , so surprisingly touristy.
BingoBoingo: Well, you did encounter old woman at the feria speaking russian
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other curio in uy , there was a 'civilian' ru colony. but they did not have the cult. so result was -- assimilated, forgot lang, today ~indistinguishable from other local orcs
asciilifeform: even moar interestingly, visitors all seem to agree re 'they have moonshine, but no alconauts, no one takes to drink' etc
BingoBoingo: Well, compare to the alternative. If it is farm cult versus being poor, farm cult wins.
asciilifeform: they not only breed but the n+1st gen goes 'yeah i'ma live here, and wake up at 400hrs for matins, and then drive tractor, or horse if out of petrol' and it goes.
asciilifeform: afaik they even get by, somehow, without a 'pope'
asciilifeform: imho 1 of the more interesting examples of 'well-run cult'
asciilifeform: they grow enuff even to export.
asciilifeform: rright but they aint
BingoBoingo: Well, scratching the dirt with hand tools isn't uncommon down here.
asciilifeform: i.e. not simply 'living time capsule.' i have nfi how they keep up the e.g. 'pnoje yes, tv nope' etc biz.
asciilifeform: lately they've been moving back, putin gave'em some phree lands somewhere
BingoBoingo: There's a couple going on.
asciilifeform: there's famously a pre-1917 ru 'old believers' colony in uy, i think they bought this
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the local ag folks have detailed soil quality maps etc.
BingoBoingo: 50-150k a hectare is "urban" or "resort" sorta land. The stuff being sold to get outta farming.
BingoBoingo: AHA, the chile "dolar viilante" deal
asciilifeform: ( 'mars' is not even the worst case. iirc there was an ancient thread where mircea_popescu described some scan where 'land for pennies', and on examination turned out to be in the andes, where even to anchor a solar panel is nontrivial )
asciilifeform: i'ma guess then , that '2.5 - 5k usd / hectare' is naked mars, and the 50-150 , is where habitable
BingoBoingo: And so on. These are as mircea_popescu pointed out a very organized people http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/
BingoBoingo: Depends, sometimes there's plumbing. Frequently a reactor connection. The price trend generally offers a clue as to what the situation is in a giver department.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Guaidó called for a crowd to protest at Carlota Airbase where they were used as human shields during the assault... At least tank derps knew they were fucking with a tank