BingoBoingo: "Talos is the world's first ATX workstation-class mainboard for the new, open-source friendly IBM POWER8 processor and architecture."
ascii_butugychag: (~we~, i think, know how - but does the peanut gallery?)
ascii_butugychag: i'm a bit surprised that nobody whined re: the most obvious boojum of mircea_popescu's contest - how will it be judged.
ascii_butugychag: 'to the cow, farmer is a large cow' or how did it go
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Note all the derps supposing the block cipher is somehow supposed to be used as a proof of work
BingoBoingo: The mythical astroturf squad is real
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Not how many of them appear so rapidly
ascii_butugychag: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8713235&cid=51449777 << the obligatory mircea_popescuphobiacs come out from their holes
BingoBoingo: "from the now-how-much-would-you-pay? dept"
ascii_butugychag: 'A post to a technical forum discovered that the non-prime parameter was introduced more than a year ago. A note in the commit indicates that Socat was not working in FIPS mode because it requires a 1024 Diffie-Hellman prime, and added that a developer named Zhiang Wang provided a patch with the new prime. The poster revealed that Wang works at Oracle and contributes to Socat.'
ascii_butugychag: '“I cannot for sure rule out the possibility of a backdoor,” said Gerhard Rieger, a Socat maintainer. “But personally I do not believe that the contributor has a backdoor because he uses an email address at a well known and reputated company, and if someone wants to install such a backdoor he would not use a parameter that can easily be proven as non prime.”'
assbot: Socat Weak Diffie-Hellman Prime Number | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3wN4o )
ascii_butugychag: punkman: the one with bernstein's proposed enhancements - possibly.
punkman: ascii_butugychag: i even like the (beefed up) mceliece << which one?
mircea_popescu: otherwise he seems sensible. who know.
mircea_popescu: "Thus, by simply keeping a local list of cipher texts that you prevent from being decrypted straightforward (i.e. those you generated), you can---at least in theory---add some security." << this part.
ascii_butugychag: which is notably not the case in, e.g., rsa.
mircea_popescu: Thus, by simply keeping a local list of cipher texts that you prevent from being decrypted straightforward (i.e. those you generated), you can---at least in theory---add some security." <<< wtf is this!
mircea_popescu: "One amazing feature of this system is that it comes with a proof of security against adaptive chosen ciphertext attacks. I.e if your hardware device (say your workstation) can be used by an adversary for a limited time (e.g. while you are at lunch) to decrypt chosen ciphertexts without actually 'stealing' the secret key, it does not help him too much to decrypt any ciphertexts except the ones he decrypted explicitly.
mircea_popescu: and also fwiw : a) the discrete log problem is of course related to the euler inequality, and generally shoup is properly speaking a narrow case of my proposed ep?
ascii_butugychag: i even like the (beefed up) mceliece
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag re the comment etc : i am definitely awarding for a degenerate shoup, if that's what we agree on using.
mircea_popescu: Encryption is 'probabilistic' - i.e. if the same text is encrypted twice, the ciphertext usually will be different. They also will be longer (in the size of bits) by a factor of four, in order to guarantee decryption to the original message."
mircea_popescu: "The algorithm can be applied on 'arbitrary' key sizes, i.e. every user can decide which bit-length k his key should have (less then 1000 is usually considered insecure).
ben_vulpes: that flash really makes the photo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_butugychag: the 'holy grail' appeal of unbreakable usgtronics everywhere is irresistible to hitler.
punkman: ascii_butugychag: browsing through the 2015 iacr archive, seems like almost every third paper is about homo crypto
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 03:56:24; asciilifeform: i venture to say that the actual goal of general-purpose (or whatever approximation is possible) homomorphic crypto is quite different.
BingoBoingo: Because for some reason articles already have comments when they hit RSS????
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a comment on derpiticle. A comment that was carried onto the RSS version of the derpiticle.
mircea_popescu: reject low fee txn outright, solve the problem.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is wrong with these idiots.
mircea_popescu: so if you make MORE space for people to take a shit in, there's going to somehow be fewer sd chips burned ?
BingoBoingo: Because mempool size is necessarily a problem for rPI and bigger blocks would be a solution in their bizzaro land. Need more Orphanage nike
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "You obviously dont understand that Bitcoin has already reached thoroughput capacity, and further procrastination will result in the amount of orphaned blocks increasing; costing miners, and frying micro-SDchips with outrageous mempool sizes rewriting constantly. Just one look at the mempool is reason enough to worry. Rasberri Pis werent designed to be abused in this way
and nearly every node and ASIC u
BingoBoingo: In other news /Classic:0.11.2/ has 259, which for a hardfork coup is disappoint
mod6: wouldn't wanna make me stab myself in the face any less.
mod6: this morning I had to nearly step over two hobo's fucking in the trainstation.
ascii_butugychag: ^ from my multi-year attempt to find out something definitive re: the strength of mceliece
ascii_butugychag: and most of it, in better shape than ~ever~ - precisely then.
mircea_popescu: in other postnuclear news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/720c6315b3b435acc588e1823e86711c/tumblr_nug3n5bXs81tx1yzzo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Peter_L either here or in PM's
ascii_butugychag: to say 'in the past' is as sane now as it would be after a nuclear war.
mircea_popescu: this leaves 1 and 4, the choice among which is indifferent.
mircea_popescu: in general, the options are exactly 4 : 1) to say that the better times are in the past ; 2) to say that the better times are right now ; 3) to say that the better times are in the future ; 4) to say that there are no better times.
gribble: Midnight in Paris: Learning to Live With the Past – The Frailest Thing: <http://thefrailestthing.com/2011/08/01/midnight-in-paris-woody-allen/>; Midnight in Paris - Wikiquote: <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Midnight_in_Paris>; Woody Allen's movie “Midnight in Paris” explores “golden age fallacy”: <http://thedailyhatch.org/2011/07/17/is-woody-allens-movie-midnight-in- (1 more message)
PeterL: btw, is it better to nitpick articles here or in their comment sections?
PeterL: BingoBoingo from Mizzu article "unrest lead to the departure of several high level administrative departures from the University" << got an extra departure in there
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 03:26:49; assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 23:40:10; kakobrekla: and where do they want to live, in the past where all the cool beans are?
ascii_butugychag: '...y, I have never been able to understand why any mathematician would discourage the
ascii_butugychag: having proofs in the first place.'
ascii_butugychag: with more frequency then we might like. But this surely does not eradicate the importance of
ascii_butugychag: Problems” of the Clay Mathematics Institute) is settled. Do mistakes happen? Occasionally, and
ascii_butugychag: this has also been shown to be inherent until the P vs. NP question (one of the seven “Millennium
ascii_butugychag: invalidate the proof. (A proof of security is always given with respect to a particular definition of
ascii_butugychag: proofs in modern cryptography are as meaningful as proofs in any other area of mathematics. Can
ascii_butugychag: (which I will be happy to do upon request of the editors), let me assure those readers that
ascii_butugychag: i know this is hard to see from the dirigible.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the folks in question are the 'unique brand of stupid' because this is ~MANDATORY~ if you want to make a living doing what they do.
mircea_popescu: nd of analysis is the only acceptable methodology e.g. for cryptography, and that its results should be blindly adhered to as truth about the world especially when they contradict plain common sense, as K&M claim they do (not saying whether the latter is true or not, just that it doesn't address this)."
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not unwarrantedly attack a whole nominal group : there are sane people too. an example "Well, he also references Bacon's Novum Organum as justification for "rigorous analysis" in cryptography, by which he apparently means theorem/proof analysis. To my knowledge, that work essentially describes how to conduct empirical scientific experiments to gain knowledge, and does not support the claim that the former ki
mircea_popescu: this is like throwing away the summaries in confusion and reading the original tardstalk text plain just to see. i have the exact same feeling - these people are uniquely stupid. what the fuck did teh education do for them again ?!
mircea_popescu: ancient history to it, too. "is this blessing good or not ?" "it's great. except if in the future things happen, in which case it WILL RETROACTIVELY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN A BLESSING!"
mircea_popescu: it's i suspect the principal pipe through which the sheep that aren't exactly stupid transfer material from future back into the past.
mircea_popescu: he can't be an "actually" thing because "actually" thing is given by participation in the official scheme to certify the reality of the delusions of the people that would want!
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2014 17:22:35; asciilifeform: that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.'
mircea_popescu: you are only a REAL soviet if you spend your time wit hthe pravda and at the parades/meetings etc.
mircea_popescu: admire the union mentality. "this woman is really hot, all the men want her" "yes but does she show up regularly at the female equality club ^H^H^H^H^H church ?"
mircea_popescu: they're a special breed.
mircea_popescu: there is little better to do with one's time than mockfully torture The People Who Would Want.
ascii_butugychag: and l0l, seem like he still works there
mircea_popescu: dude, the redditards should make a bitcoin academia. with stolfi, katz and bogawan what's his face.
mircea_popescu: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/BLOGPAPERS/koblitz.pdf <<< ahaha is this our friend the drastically inept if wildly agitated katz ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag who's "in theory" blogshit, http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~luca/cs276/ ?
mircea_popescu: "The CRYPTO community's typesetting abilities are not spared, nor is Oded Goldreich's spelling." ahaha.
ascii_butugychag: or the idiot pgp revocation cert sense
ascii_butugychag: dead key notice in the human sense ?
mircea_popescu: use the old one to certify the new one in all instances you care about, sign a dead key notice with the old one, drop it in the sea.
mircea_popescu: besides, it'll teach you how to correctly obsolete keys so you don't need them to expire anymore.
mircea_popescu: make a proper new key an' obsolete the old one for safeties.
ascii_butugychag: and the man he apprenticed under, and so on
mircea_popescu: to answer the original q : i am vaguely familiar a bunch of different such schemes were entertained by people with varying degrees of competence.
ascii_butugychag: just that it was sitting there.
mircea_popescu: the thing is as good as pressed shit.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a woman anywhere they waited to take turns on, they never waited on each other to return books to library, nothing, vacuum ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag take the first thing that came to my eyes. so dedekind and fourier are ENTIRELY separate nodes ? you swear to this ?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it's their try at... vtronics
mircea_popescu: in this sense there was no literacy pre books, either. this is not a property of the world.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: there is not a single unified 'playing field', no. what there is, is a torch carried by maybe 3-5 people at a time. ever.
mircea_popescu: well, a copywriter who found himself locked in a "math teaching" job, like that girl in my class i recounted the story of.
mircea_popescu: "The foregoing assertion is based on the realization that cryptography is focused on adversarial behavior"
mircea_popescu: in general, there isn't one. in the rare cases when human genius couples with dilligence and creates a SINGLE playing field, the pissants are unaware - generally deliberately.
mircea_popescu: your very cosmic idea of the world is inadequate in my eyes. nobody said that there is ONE playing field, and if there were one, that the pissants'd see it.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: they are scar tissue.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag but the pissants have NOTHING TO DO with honest community either way.
mircea_popescu: the exact phrase, "in general X and in y especially so X" has been in use since at least the late middle ages.
ascii_butugychag: does mircea_popescu recall the eotvos thread ?
mircea_popescu: "x is the largest number, and in particular y is larger than x!"
mircea_popescu: " In general, we believe that rigorous analysis is, by far, the best way to study reality. Moreover, in the case of cryptography, this general principle is more important than in any other discipline." <<< check out mathematiphilosophician, discovered an inequality!
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag they are no such thing. notice that when i want something, i squarely ignore their field as per http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ and so on.
ascii_butugychag: and they aren't wrong about this.
mircea_popescu: me of the fundamental philosophical flaws that underly the said article and some of its misconceptions regarding theoretical research in Cryptography in the last quarter of a century."
mircea_popescu: "This essay relates to a recent article of Koblitz & Menezes (Cryptology ePrint Report 2004/152) that ``criticizes several typical `provable security' results'' and argues that the ``theorem-proof paradigm of theoretical mathematics is often of limited relevance'' to cryptography. Although it should be obvious that these claims are utterly wrong, we undertake articulating this triviality. In particular, we point out so
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the lulz are circa '07
mircea_popescu: < we have the b-a log, it works barely.
mircea_popescu: "Actually, mathematics does have a "fast publication cycle" alternative -- which is to put papers on the arXiv. This works very well in practice, and in fact a morning ritual of most research mathematicians is to browse the arXiv mailing form the night before in his/her area. After a few months in the arXiv, hopefully generating some useful comments and criticisms, the paper would finally be submitted to a journal. " <
mircea_popescu: motherfucker - euler figured out how to sum integers to infinity while he was a teen. where the fuck is YOUR early work that you can incremental upon
mircea_popescu: ahahah o god the butthurt.
mircea_popescu: 2. As someone pointed out in a comment from My Biased Coin blog, is "incremental results" such a bad thing for the advancement of science that one has to "criticize" in the manner that Koblitz did? As far as I can tell, the great Euler published quite a few "incremental results.""
mircea_popescu: "1. My conjecture: all scientific areas do have the "incremental results" problem. Does any one have any data supporting the hypothesis that CS (or TCS) has a higher percentage of "incremental results" published in respectable journals/conferences? If not, Koblitz' criticism is only as valid as "there are few women in CS," which though correct is hardly CS' own problem.
mircea_popescu: "Anonymous7:04 PM, August 31, 2007 The minute TCS becomes the mature mathematical discipline that you are dreaming of, I am out of the game." << and guess where anon works.
mircea_popescu: As promised, I have written a letter of complaint to the editors of the Notices. I don't know if it will get published (it is also a bit long), but it is available here (pdf) or here (ps) "
mircea_popescu: For this reason, I thought publication of his article in the Notices of the AMS was inexcusable. Even worse, this latest incarnation of his essay goes beyond being a mere "academic" argument and degenerates to name-calling and belittlement of an entire field and all the people who work in it. (And it seems pretty clear that his feelings extend beyond crypto to CS at large.)
mircea_popescu: "What really bugs me, however, is how much publicity Koblitz has managed to get out of this. I see him invited to give talks at many venues, but never see anyone invited to present a counter-argument. (For that matter, I don't see invited speakers at cryptography conferences poking fun at the cryptographic work that mathematicians do.) This does not matter so much when Koblitz speaks at a TCS-venue (any intelligent cry
ascii_butugychag: the one usg is playing is about asymmetric crypto, mainly
mats: what 'ends the game'
mircea_popescu: nsa WITH A WORKING BLOCK CIPHER ends the game.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally the nist turd linked earlier was pure gold
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes either set it up as default or specify it in command line. see manpage.
mircea_popescu: in random other lulz, http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116438
PeterL: if I have more than one key in gpg, is there a way to tell it which one to use for signing stuff?
ascii_butugychag: then again, his last post was dated '07
ascii_butugychag: i'm kinda surprised they never had him shot
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the lawsuit crackpot linked earlier was, imho, pure gold. he was genuinely convinced that rule-of-law was a thing! and kept picking, picking at the cracks in it, utterly mystified that every single judge 'lost' his papers, etc
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: reminds of the boondocks: "I was looking for bitches, but they had they carpet shit all over them and I couldn’t see what they look like. All that was really exposed was they eyes. And that wasn’t enough for me ‘cause you know, shit I’m lookin at they eyes and they eyes could be pretty and I take off their carpet… and then I got a tragedy."
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> hell, more often by own side. <<< own side can't usually be bothered. goatherder females much juicier.
mircea_popescu: something like "if you add this sort of gravel at 5.45% instead of normal gravel, you have an optimal chance of some of the cells connecting and powering hte side rail. because no, it's not gravel per se."
mats: ascii_butugychag: as I recall, only a handful died taking the hospital
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of "let's embed current, fragile solar panels into roads", but in the opposite sense : we're currently creating this surface out of basically refined scum, which we keep clean all year round. could there be some shit embedded so at least it powers the traffic signals ?
mats: god forbid americans see what real war is like, a white woman being gangraped by goatherders
thestringpuller: they put that chick in an episode of scandal as herself
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 14:03:13; mircea_popescu: who exactly wants this ? other than fucking nsa, of course, as per usual. ("but mr goldstein, you SIGNED that child porn. whadda ya mean it's an automatic process you don't control.")
ascii_butugychag: see, modern us army is, among other things, a machine for making female brass
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 15:39:50; mats: a swinging dick would rather leave cover and drag a wounded woman to safety and treat her wounds than return fire
mats: if your dumb ass gets shot, you're going to get ignored until its convenient for the unit to treat you
mats: exactly the opposite of what you're supposed to do.
mats: a swinging dick would rather leave cover and drag a wounded woman to safety and treat her wounds than return fire
trinque: why make ISIS come here for our women when we can just hand them over
trinque: mats: just the cancerous notion of equality working its way through
mats: when they are fucking ~mounted~
mircea_popescu: (and for the record, for they of anthropological curiosities - there's an entire cvasi-science in the notes of technicians running the early infrastructure of hte industrial revolution. it's a shocking if fascinating mix of all sorts of things.)
mircea_popescu: the whole field is essentially a commune of technicians trying to run a factory. because the last time they saw a scientist or an engineer they were about 5 and one visited the zoo.
mircea_popescu: could it be that the only way lowbrow pigborn with delusions of centrality and leadership could continue pretending like he has "a good handle" on things with his schemes derived on looseleaf papers, ever so similar in contents and consistency to the ever-genius schemes of the broke if consummate las vegas gambler, horse race expert etc ?
mircea_popescu: there's this very strong undercurrent of farmer mind fighting against the complexity of the world through denial and fetish worship, if you look at it. WHY must entirely banal approach be secret ? perhaps for the same exact reason children playing spontaneously errupt in "it's not fair like that", to fix the necessarily broken rules of the GAME they are playing so it's playable a little longer ?
mircea_popescu: then someone discovered every other year and they had to run around strongarming ibm and whatnot to not explain why the fuck the sboxen must be diddled just-so.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1397029 << understand, a fucking field where something as commonplace as differential cryptanalysis is "classified"... every SINGLE FUCKING PERSON of human composition to ever EVEN CONSIDER the matter came up with differential cryptanalisis within the fucking day. because what the everloving fuck. as a 10yo playing with 10yo girls i came up with it. just how fucking hard c
mircea_popescu: ahh, such the reading list in log this morn. nice.
mircea_popescu: and to turdcherry the shitcake, all these nobodies on a stick run around spewing wholly delusional notions of expertise and amateurship. just don't ask them to put it to any sort of actual test.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 13:16:34; asciilifeform: the triumph of 'ordinary science' as described by kuhn.
mircea_popescu: who exactly wants this ? other than fucking nsa, of course, as per usual. ("but mr goldstein, you SIGNED that child porn. whadda ya mean it's an automatic process you don't control.")
mircea_popescu: "Every file you write in there is signed. There's no manual signing process, no taring or gzipping, no detached sigs. Instead, everything in this folder appears as plaintext files on everyone's computers. You can even open /keybase/public/yourname in your Finder or Explorer and drag things in."
mircea_popescu: i wish the idiot circuit would write their release document as to be meaningful to people rather than appealing to goats. da fuck am i going to read out of that windows950-esque screenshot other than "hey, windows 95!"
mircea_popescu: "Public, signed directories for everyone in the world You can now write data in a very special place: /keybase/public/yourname"
mircea_popescu: "Alpha releases of the Keybase app are starting to come with a cryptographically secure file mount. It is brand new. And very different." da fuck is this shit.
asciilifeform: pitch that Crypto AG was a neutral company and its equipment was the best. They were Swiss, after all. [3] Crypto AG eventually paid one million dollars for Buehler's release in January 1993, then promptly fired him once they had reassured themselves that he hadn't revealed anything important under interrogation, and because Buehler had begun to ask some embarrassing questions.'
asciilifeform: 'Iran demonstrated its suspicion about the source of the leaks, when it arrested Hans Buehler, a top salesman for Crypto AG, in Teheran on March 18, 1992. During his nine and a half months of solitary confinement in Evin prison in Teheran, Buehler was questioned again and again whether he had leaked Teheran's codes or Libya's keys to Western powers. Luckily Buehler didn't know anything. He in fact believed in his own sales
asciilifeform: ^ re: the 'Benincasa's algorithm' thing.
asciilifeform: 'Without this technology our legal project would fail. The feds usually win. Let's see what happens.'
asciilifeform: regards http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/dcvoid/dcvoid.htm#feehan3 http://www.alineshat.com/PDF/Nojeh-LawSuit-Doc.pdf My interests these day are in peak energy. Please check to see if my differentiation are correct or not! http://www.prosefights.org/pnmelectric/pnmelectric.htm#normaldistribution'
asciilifeform: yne%20Tutors%20RSA%20and%20NSA.htm While I was project leader of the missile secure cryptographic unit in the 1980, NSA cryptographer Brian Snow gave some of us Sandians a lecture on NSA crypto units. Snow showed actual devices and schematics. Snow also commented on field failures. NSA algoritms I saw were based on shift register and combinatoric algorithms.
assbot: 404 (Page Not Found) Error - Ever feel like you're in the wrong place? ... ( http://bit.ly/23NgCvP )
asciilifeform: Anonymous said... 'NSA began to remove public key crypto implementations from weapons in about 1991. Sandia cryptographer Gus Simmons suggested to NSA and Sandia that NSA replace the shift register-based Benincasa algorithm in the ctbt data authenticator with public key. I was ordered by my supervior, Dr John Holovka [chemist] to explain what Simmons was talking about. http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/mcconnell/pacer/Pa
asciilifeform: http://mybiasedcoin.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-mathematicians-view-computer.html?showComment=1189170960000#c5322431910783198900
asciilifeform: on the bright side, in the ancient comment threads, we find the inevitable articulate crackpot! :
asciilifeform: the triumph of 'ordinary science' as described by kuhn.
asciilifeform: there is no 'provably hard' ~anything~ available, the WHOLE MOTHERFUCKING FIELD is, as far as the eye can see, pseudomathematical turdmeistery
asciilifeform: and found... the thing that koblitz describes
asciilifeform: the second time, just recently
asciilifeform: this hammer hit me in the face the first time around (as a young man, when i had notions of actually making a living in that field, and recoiled in disgust, having encountered something quite similar to what is described in tarver's and moldbug's essays)
asciilifeform: and, on the other side, the ludicrous, when seen from outside, deluge of pseudomathematical claptrap that now passes for 'computer science research'
punkman: asciilifeform: a heathen perversion for each thing in tmsr. << which thing, g?
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 00:07:08; asciilifeform: (from the mega-classic http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html )
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2014 17:22:35; asciilifeform: that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.'
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 08:52:12; punkman: on this week's theme of provable crypto, here is Koblitz making derps all butthurt http://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2007/08/koblitz-controversy-reaction.html
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1396994 << koblitz was not only correct, but see also other honest folk, e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014#728963
asciilifeform: (there are at least two deliberately bastardized wots, for instance)
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 12:06:30; punkman: https://keybase.io/introducing-the-keybase-filesystem
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1397004 << in keeping with the principle that there must eventually appear a heathen perversion for each thing in tmsr.
punkman: on this week's theme of provable crypto, here is Koblitz making derps all butthurt http://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2007/08/koblitz-controversy-reaction.html
trinque: perhaps after shiva has destroyed the old world and created a new one
ben_vulpes: having expectations of the poor turd
ben_vulpes: i see you over there
trinque: still working on the upload step, which may require altering or adding an RPC. gettransaction just tells number of confirmations, not what blockheight that was, and it's not as though I can call two RPC transactionally
mircea_popescu: no place exists other than in the imagination ; and some imaginations really dun matter. for all anyone cares we live on fucking buyan
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1396934 << in what sense is "veneta" a place, and for that matter what is "place" mean today ? i don't live in fucking "argentina", the byproduct of the inept hallucination of a bunch of retarded soy farmers.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1396932 << in was in the snowden pile.
felipelalli: (I have to go now, I'll read the feedback later, if any) good bye! :)
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, thank you to being the main source of this article! Thanks to have produced good contents about the subject.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 02:50:54; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 's-boxes' etc are the voodoo paraphernalia of the block-ciphration field, which was from its very beginning and to this day 100% hokum
felipelalli: sorry about the Portuguese
felipelalli: New article about the importance of Bitcoin OTC WoT: https://yeppudaproductions.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/a-importancia-do-bitcoin-otc-wot/ - have fun! :)
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 23:40:10; kakobrekla: and where do they want to live, in the past where all the cool beans are?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396844 << actually yes ! note how mircea_popescu successfully lives there! (he carries a portable timewarp generator, it is in his waistcoat)
asciilifeform: only the cobwebbed recesses of my cranium.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Got a good link on Mozilla selling their vulns?
asciilifeform: they were apparently $3K ~each~ when new. which is surreal.
BingoBoingo: But seriously lolz on Bugzilla: "It seems that eventually by fixing this non-bug a REAL BUG has now been created: forcing the ASK_BEFORE_ACCEPT like ACCEPT_NORMALLY (see comment 19 above by M Hamdy) results in allowing, e.g., google.com to install a cookie even if google.com is set to be blocked in the list of exceptions."
asciilifeform: does there need to be a 'why.'
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 02:18:02; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> any means to prove that a ~particular~ instance of that problem is not susceptible to a more efficient pill. << incidentally, this is the best argument for SIMPLE (mathematically) ciphers and cryptography generally.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1396901 << the other thing is, simplicity is sorta like sanitation. picture trying to explain 'why i do not like to swim in liquid shit'
asciilifeform: (and to sell it through swiss catamite intermediaries to anyone who'd buy, after the last rotor finally gave up the ghost)
asciilifeform: quite possibly the very mission of nsa, for the decades prior to zimmerman, was to keep block cipheration alive...
asciilifeform: (in fact, the roots of all of the state-of-the-art work ~pre-date~ cook's theorem and the notion of quantifiable algorithmic complexity !)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 's-boxes' etc are the voodoo paraphernalia of the block-ciphration field, which was from its very beginning and to this day 100% hokum
mircea_popescu: when i see the "s-boxes" and schedules and bs i get this distinct "technician aspiring to be engineer" feeling.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> any means to prove that a ~particular~ instance of that problem is not susceptible to a more efficient pill. << incidentally, this is the best argument for SIMPLE (mathematically) ciphers and cryptography generally.
mircea_popescu: well... either way.
mircea_popescu: shoo to the fields.
mircea_popescu: " In another variation on the theme, statisticians created the concept of a standard deviation realizing that samples in a data set may vary considerably."
asciilifeform: if there is anybody to whom this does not make sense - speak up!
asciilifeform: the real gotcha turns out to be... we don't really have hard difficulty proofs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: played around with a few graph-theoretical approaches (in particular, max-clique problem)
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BingoBoingo: Maybe Perelman decides he needs some Bitcoin to try the Erdos thing?
BingoBoingo: I dunno seems like an interesting time to put it out there. Who knows what will wash up?
mircea_popescu: da fuck can i do, freedom and decentralization means people run away with the things!
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