asciilifeform: tie - is to be broken by the operator. always.
asciilifeform: if not barfs, then broken vtron.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 15:16:19; ben_vulpes: press a patch without hashes in the headers
mircea_popescu: aite, i see. really should drop the latest it's confucksing
asciilifeform: let's use the term.
asciilifeform: then c is 'latest'.
mircea_popescu: do you mean longest then ?
BingoBoingo: V like everything else only exists in the present
mircea_popescu: there is no time sorting whatever.
mircea_popescu: there is no "latest"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is 'longest chain' but none of the current vtrons know how to find it
jurov: alf said there is!!!!11
mircea_popescu: there is no last.
jurov: and to press the "last pressable" I do what command?
mircea_popescu: but this is not really a cogent consideration. as far as levels are concerned, this "current" one would be just qas much l1 as all the other direct-G descendants.
asciilifeform: current being the last pressable, strictly
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 15:43:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400348 << this goes to the ancient turd, still has, e.g., irc in it!!111111
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400592 foundation is welcome to link to any chosen 'v' head present there.
asciilifeform: e.g., i can submit a patch which depends only on genesis, and it will be among the current leaves
mircea_popescu: i also confess to mentally having an imaginary pre-G as a master node for all the various G's such as shiva's bitcoins v's etc.
asciilifeform: only if the tree were specially drawn this way
asciilifeform: likewise, they must not attempt to transform X' and disparate X'' into a Y
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 14:57:13; mircea_popescu: PeterL> or am I totally confused? << a patch can only be safely applied to its antecedent. two patches at the same level CAN NOT be both applied by definition.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400409 << 'levels' have no useful meaning here. any two patches that don't take a file with hash H and try to transform it into two disparage H' and H'', can be pressed together.
mircea_popescu: that is not hte protocol, that is the spec of one implemen tation among many
mircea_popescu: i don't see where this is in the protocol ?
mircea_popescu: this nailing down... stick to nailing the mechanical gfs. reality has no holes.
asciilifeform: otherwise we call it something else, wtf, mechanical girlfriend
asciilifeform: the notion is that a tool ought to behave maximally predictably.
mircea_popescu: i don't want anything, whatsoever. and i still don;t care what the effects would be.
mircea_popescu: trb is alive whether you want it or not.
PeterL: this morning we had a bit of snow, I slid about 10 yards past the entrance to work, antilock brakes kicked in, had to shift to reverse and go back to turn into parking lot
BingoBoingo: If alarm was raised in time those drivers would have normally stayed home, but because they were not explicitly told road is slick all suffer
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yes. Very little snow, but enough to cull weakest drivers.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: aha. so even there you'll see cars in ditches with people telling cops "i dunno what happened, i just slippped and ended up in here"
asciilifeform: other than archaeologists.
asciilifeform: but imho linking to the ancient 0.5.3 by default is lunacy.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Problem is water under snow. Dept of Roads does not brine as generously as I do.
mod6: to asciilifeform's point tho, i'm not too sure what even exists in the lxr thing, and if is congruent with what's in the V mirror
asciilifeform: because otherwise heisenbugs.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: I'd expect midwesterners to know how to drive in snow belt weather... Here we get 2 inches, the roads freeze and everyone freaks out like its The Walking Dead or some shit.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 14:17:35; ben_vulpes: PeterL: the list of patches gets alphasorted before toposorting in all implementations i've seen to date.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400386 << and you would rather have what ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, it is the source of where it starts.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Roads here are clusterfuck because no one could anticipate 2nd round of snow coming this morning
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> can anyone with thebitcoin.foundation privileges plox redirect http://thebitcoin.foundation/src to http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/ thankee << yup, np. will resolve later today.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a good chunk of the weight of all of these is 1) battery 2) cpu heat pipes -- for all of which, you can thank idiot intel/x86.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: where
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: is it blizzarding like dairy queen up there
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 14:02:49; mircea_popescu: can anyone with thebitcoin.foundation privileges plox redirect http://thebitcoin.foundation/src to http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/ thankee
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400348 << this goes to the ancient turd, still has, e.g., irc in it!!111111
ben_vulpes: and not worry about the delicate internals
ben_vulpes: leading edge just torso-ward of the hands starts chipping after some time
mircea_popescu: and this matters in the sense that ximenez of spain really was interested in whether the witch had or hadn't orgasmed with the devil.
asciilifeform: in the end, everybody gets both
asciilifeform: just observing that neither i nor the other million chumps are enthusiastic coprophagics, we were simply given a menu of shit and broken glass, and picked shit
mircea_popescu: aha. there are pockets like that yeah
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes you know for everyone from europe public school = best school. private school is where people with money send their retarded offspring to keep up the pretense. <- +1 to that; I might add the only exception to this rule I found in northern Italy where "private" meant in fact province (autonomous, German-speaking-and-doing province) funded
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 13:55:09; mircea_popescu: it's all fine and dandy, makes up the very characteristic weird we've come to love under the label alf, but do not expect it's a consideration (or even meaningful) for anyone else.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> doubt i'll get to it today tho << "there's all this delicious administrative shit to fuck around with early, who has time for codings!!!"
mod6: anyway, will re-walk through this all again tonight, etc. then will sign and send to ML.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yea, my P4 that's overclocked has had the best performance in bootstrapping.
mod6: ben_vulpes: here's a peek at the squshed beta 1 & beta 2 vpatches - unless something changes between now and tonight, i'll be sending this one to the ML. All you need to do to apply is get V [v99996], copy `v.pl' to `v.pl.v99996`, then place this patch in the same dir and do: `patch -p0 < V_v99995_beta2.vpatch` and give it a go
ben_vulpes: they usually get shitcanned shinohai
shinohai: Is there an official court jester post?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it still mostly uses one core no matter what you do
trinque: thestringpuller: yes, it's quite IO hungry
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thestringpuller: trinque: I think you're right about the whole SSD thing. I'm going to resync on my giga-box for more tests, but it seems bootstrapping performance is increased more by adding SSD than adding more CPU's (unless you're adding like 20 cores to the thing but even then)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wasn't a matter of [person who was once branded a lord] [can have seat back for asking]. it was a matter of [person who was born with the mettle and greatness of being a lord] [can have a seat whether they had one or never did just by basically existing in their grandiose state].
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mircea_popescu: PeterL no such thing! they can self-apply that, easy enough to verify.
ben_vulpes tries to reconcile 'lord can have seat back for asking' with the booting of fluffypony and nubbins`
punkman: opinions: +1 to both additions. would be nice to see artifexd return. fluffy and nubbins can keep their lordships unless they wish to abdicate.
mod6: i updated alot of the automate tests, and added a number of them, to ensure that i didn't regress anywhere. so far, seems good.
phf: but the school was already selective, was ran by a strong Georgian woman. if you didn't perform would get a visit with the principle. "your child will have a very hard time next year. a ~very~ hard time. we advise you move schools immediately". i know because my parents got the talk once or twice
mod6: shipping? it'll just be a whole bundle once we do a bit of testing -- but tonights patch will be a squashed patch of the one from last week, and the additional changes here.
shinohai: thx phf and congrats to all who have made the Lord's list.
diana_coman: aha, the 8 class thing would've been a great thing though
mircea_popescu is vaguely envious of phf's adolescentine paradise. i expect they were all lanky slav coughars with uncharacteristically large tits for that type, and spent a lot of time doing stuff in the nude
mod6: if/when you can get the new patch applied, give it a try and let me know. thx.
phf: there was a slightly different ratio in the B class, which was everyone who didn't make the A class.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> press a patch without hashes in the headers << i've actually got that one covered in the patch im about to put out there tonight.
diana_coman: after which they proceeded to bash us that "you will end up washing the floors in supermarkets"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the way this worked was, "gpa over X", which meant 8 people out of the region. then everyone went into the normal-great classes. but THEN it came word from the miniostry that they won't run a class for 8 people
mircea_popescu: diana_coman cluj suprareal cca late 1990s had exactly ONE girl in the set of 8 people that were accepted on merit, and about 14 in the set of 17 others who were accepted to pad the class so it may be made.
ben_vulpes: AMERICAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE
mircea_popescu: PeterL "nobody kept in touch with the smart women they met so they have no proposals to make so the list is mostly guys"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know for everyone from europe public school = best school. private school is where people with money send their retarded offspring to keep up the pretense.
ben_vulpes: i have a completely unbacked theory that the further you go down the american income/class ladder the more girls you'll get in those classes.
mircea_popescu: well, everyone else's other than me, but anyway!
PeterL: meh, i don't talk with any of them, that was like 15 years ago
mircea_popescu: PeterL so invite them over.
mircea_popescu: and in more "i married the wrong girl" news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/61c9d7e8de1f94638e74daf6a5069e54/tumblr_nyhv2e9ok51qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: press a patch without hashes in the headers
mircea_popescu: a right, there is that alos.
ben_vulpes: and the tits!
mircea_popescu: either that or more women that went to school for purposes other than talking about boys.
PeterL: only one female on the lordship list? you guys are so sexist! Clearly we need some affirmative action around here?
mircea_popescu: in any case we're early here, two months til april, and then all of april.
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diana_coman: I am honoured to be proposed to the list; I might add that I am quite likely to be of the silent type indeed at least for the time being
mircea_popescu: and if one isn't a lord... well... why would they want it ? fucking milstone around one's neck of the first degree.
mircea_popescu: my doctrine is that it's the simplest thing in the world for a lord to get his seat.
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ben_vulpes: more to the point with artifexd he bit off gossipd, claimed progress, and then vanished.
mircea_popescu: understand, this "different files" is flimsy as fuck. for all you know the "same files" are not really the same at all - their content changed.
mircea_popescu: you necessarily and always specify the order when you write the patch, because it includes the hash of the thing you want it applied on top of.
PeterL: so even if different files are affected, you have to specify the order?
PeterL: well, trying to decide order of patches to apply, if they affect different files then it does not matter which order you use?
mircea_popescu: well i have nfi what you mean by "same level", but to my eyes and from graph theory considerations it would mean "patches applied atop the same one patch"
mircea_popescu: PeterL> or am I totally confused? << a patch can only be safely applied to its antecedent. two patches at the same level CAN NOT be both applied by definition.
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ben_vulpes: draw the graph, it's a useful exercise.
PeterL: meh, I guess thinking about it, I guess if two patches are of equal level, then it does not matter which order they get applied?
mircea_popescu: if it is then it's probably hiding a bug or three
ben_vulpes: if instead a v implementation presses each patch in the flow...
ben_vulpes: from the desired head to press, it doesn't.
ben_vulpes: if a v implementation recurses up from the pressed head, it doesn't.
PeterL: but why should the alphasort matter?
ben_vulpes: PeterL: the list of patches gets alphasorted before toposorting in all implementations i've seen to date.
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ben_vulpes: in other news we call this occasionally-accumulating infant smegma "neck cheese" because mothers milk comes back up as ricotta
mircea_popescu: in other news of no particular interest, long sloppy blowjob the night before means you'll be picking red hairs out of your crotch for the rest of the morning.
mircea_popescu: as you can see my dear vulpes, it's not that we're BORN any better. it's that we've been doing something about it since then.
ben_vulpes: paging mod6 to the preactor control room
mircea_popescu: can anyone with thebitcoin.foundation privileges plox redirect http://thebitcoin.foundation/src to http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/ thankee
ben_vulpes: http://thebitcoin.foundation/src << also lulzy?
mircea_popescu: it's just the plastic wanna-be crap, has nothing to do with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: for the lulz :
mircea_popescu: eh, wipe all licenses. tmsr does not honor agreements between parties not attached to the wot.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400280 << this is sold by one vendor in the arbitrary, pointless package you've chosen, and by EVERY SINGLE VENDOR as a desktop. and so on.
ben_vulpes: who is john w. wilkinson and is there any reason to keep his json spirit license around?
mircea_popescu: it's all fine and dandy, makes up the very characteristic weird we've come to love under the label alf, but do not expect it's a consideration (or even meaningful) for anyone else.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 13:05:21; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400258 << what stockholm. It's the only working portable comp vendor.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400259 <<< i'm with ben and the whole rest of the world on this. you display a very entrenched form of stockholm syndrome. not just here - but in all points of confort. can't move out of dc because it's the only swamp in the world with lid suspension and hotplugging something or the other, gotta use apple because insanoarcana, etc.
mircea_popescu: which i suspect is the proximate reason no blame attached to buzzdave
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeh. course, fpga thing even then counted more like amateur hour than anything.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the winds have pointedly turned against apple. the time when they did that "we'll brick your device if you used other parts in it" thing i'd arbitrarily pick as the jumping the shark moment. but in any case : apple is for the next decade a company to sell, not to hold and CERTAINLY not to buy.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I believe so. Isn't he the one who did the FPGA thing with BuzzDave and professed to be doing the ASIC thing?
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 12:14:06; BingoBoingo: Blame for the failure went to the venture's major partner Tom
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400249 << our friend tom van dyke, the sweet blood and tears guy ?
mircea_popescu: write endurance is notably not a major point of interest for bitcoin node ssds. the way it works is that most of the files are stable forever, and you have a hot end you keep adding to. this is a match made in heaven for ssds, they can use the spare capacity to compensate for your rewrites and once done it's done.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The price amazon is selling the evo for is about the price amazon is selling the pro for. The difference between the two is apparently pro gets bigger warranty, hotter running controller (potential point of failure) and derp about longer write endurance
BingoBoingo: A bit over, but as cheap as I've seen them
mircea_popescu: people are fucking late. shoulda derped about how dead it is back then.
mircea_popescu: anyway, looking at the graphs bitcoin ~was~ actually dead march to about sept 2015/
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 23:00:43; BingoBoingo: SSD market pretty much consists on Samsung, Intel, and other firms that just use surplus parts from samsung
mircea_popescu: and it goes downhill from there
mircea_popescu: but then because of that very increase, ironically, even if they eat 2x as much the 2nd year, they can only maange a measly 3x
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400221 << no, it's just mayogendered. this is the primary cause of butthurt in the obeetus : first year they eat, they increase 10x.
asciilifeform: the aluminum anchor.
asciilifeform: i just need a motherfucking knapsack unix box that never has to be powered down, hotplugs displays, and '4k' lcd.
asciilifeform: i don't like, need or want the graphics, the idiot skeumorphisms, the 'ease of use', the payware, or the compatibility
ben_vulpes: not irc on the train?
asciilifeform: actually the usa trap is quite similar
ben_vulpes: i for instance just bought three of the things, but only because of the Apple Developer Ratchet
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 13:01:24; ben_vulpes: takes a rather lot to override apple-scale stockholm
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400258 << what stockholm. It's the only working portable comp vendor.
ben_vulpes: takes a rather lot to override apple-scale stockholm
asciilifeform: if i need a unix box with lid suspend, stuck with crapple. ditto re: sane handling of hotplugged external displays. and 1,01 other items.
asciilifeform: vs the supposed alternatives - works
asciilifeform: (and note, if, satan help you, you need a laptop comp that ~actually works~, or a pocket terminal that doesn't resemble an infested xp box, there is very much no alternative)
BingoBoingo: Back in late 2012 there were 4 kinda serious presenting operations promising Asics. Asicminer, Avalon, and BFL. Dave was with the other one.
BingoBoingo: Megabigpower is the OP
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 11:28:25; BingoBoingo: In other butthurt chronicles https://archive.is/N0HXA
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ALready got it deployed and refresh banlist occasionally. Just like the lulz of their image only existing for single AWS site in Oregon.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 11:20:54; BingoBoingo: ANd the AWS cost minimization wank returns https://archive.is/55zxR
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400212 << recall, you can find my aws banhammer on the ml.
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 04:30:17; mircea_popescu: so far it'd be a knob connected to not very much. once we have an actually meaningful protocol, then.
shinohai: I stay away from the Bitcoin ladies meself. Gotta save and buy new equips.
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punkman: "-I'm the 38th author... -Wow, that sucks. -I hadn't finished. I'm the 38th author called "Wang" -Oh." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26799652
punkman: "At least, if you pay Apple’s premium for Apple design, you do get more design than you get from Microsoft, Google and other laptop manufacturers. It’s not design created in your interest or for your convenience, but there certainly is plenty of it."
BingoBoingo thinks rather than 'malleus II' this would be 'malleus differentpersonium'
mircea_popescu: so far it'd be a knob connected to not very much. once we have an actually meaningful protocol, then.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the definition of "nonstandard tx" is iffy.
asciilifeform: if this thing were an actual multithreaded proggy, we could drop the priority of vermin instead of dropping'em entirely, but we have what we have.
asciilifeform: this would walk the razor's edge of danger, in re splitting trb into own parallel universe, however
asciilifeform: btw recall, rms never forgave the destruction of its
mircea_popescu: "Much later, in 1993, the specific online design processes we used were later studied and written up by researchers at the MIT Sloan School [Yates93]." << word.
mircea_popescu: During all of this, I picked up a lot of trivia about the MACLISP language, which was not very well-documented. David Moon had written a manual a few years earlier, but it was out of date and featured primarily the Honeywell Multics implementation of MACLISP, not the PDP10 implementation. Also, as it happened, Don Knuth had just come out with TEX typesetting language and I was looking for possible uses for it, so I att
mircea_popescu: I spent nearly all of my hours at the Lab, often to the detriment of my class work, which is why I took 5 years to graduate. During my time there, I worked mostly for credit, only very occasionally for tiny amounts of moneyabout $5 per hour for a small number of hours a week programming MACSYMA, as I recall. Most of my time was as a volunteer, and in that time I did some additional work on MACSYMA but also some pers
mircea_popescu: , I immediately went to the several other undergraduates working on the same project and said, they dont know were not supposed to have offices. But soon we all did have offices, or at least desks in offices with dedicated VT52 terminals atop them. My office was shared with Guy Steele, co-inventor of the SCHEME programming language, and JonL White, author and maintainer of the MACLISP compiler.
mircea_popescu: "ne day while working with the MACSYMA group, I was around when someone was assigning officesor desks, really, since offices were generally shared. Where is mine? I asked, somewhat jokingly. As far as I knew, only graduate students were entitled to offices. The person doing the arranging didnt realize I was joking and responded in seriousness that he didnt know and would try to find one for me. Of course
mircea_popescu: the rest... what can i say. takes time.
mircea_popescu: now, the CHANCE part we got well covered.
mircea_popescu: in the form of sane people and an impressive channel to join into.
mircea_popescu: tell you what - the problem is not unlike "getting mp to look at bitcoin"
asciilifeform: it is a mega-conundrum, in my mind, i know for a fact that there live at least half a dozen people who could, potentially, supply intelligent commentary. but none of them i expect to appear here.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu feels like hammering in the point, he could even offer a prize for breaking aes
asciilifeform: reading the block cipher thread, on shitdot, and, mega-unsurprise - not one interesting thing said.
asciilifeform: the sheer and obvious futility of the standardization process, as it existed then and there, selected against the smart, the intellectually honest, and in general anybody 'with theorems to prove'
mircea_popescu: ory and growth. It might on occasion appear to portray certain individualsprimarily myself, but perhaps othersin an unflattering light. Part of the point of this paper is that we have each grown through our respective experiences. There is no intent to disparage anyone."
mircea_popescu: "Someone once claimed to me that the problems with standards work is that the process is so exhausting that no one who ever finishes the task wants to try another, so everyone involved is always brand new and no knowledge ever propagates from cycle to cycle. This isnt literally true, but there is still some truth to it." << and THE REASON FOR THIS is that, quote from same source, "This is a story about personal hist
asciilifeform: the process whereby we got the cl standard is every bit as ugly as the standard itself
mircea_popescu: http://www.nhplace.com/kent/Papers/cl-untold-story.html << man this kent dude is the most tiresome stickler... i've never seen such a retarded if endless introduction.
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ascii_butugychag: virtually always, they are older than i am
ascii_butugychag: every other year i do end up dragging my arse to uni library solely to excavate forth a paper
mircea_popescu: seems the concept is more likely a derivation of "good law", ie, conventionally not-discarded yet, than actual science in any sense
mircea_popescu: show me some of this good science an english speaker produced on the basis of anglopsychosis.
ascii_butugychag: ' your ideological battles should not be waged on the backs of readers and authors who dedicate their lives to producing and disseminating good science. But if you want to commit career suicide, no one will stop you.'
ascii_butugychag: (picture a trb box eating blocks via diode, and shitting tx out another diode, when the knife switch is on, strictly)
ascii_butugychag: but there are several 'off label' uses, aha.
ascii_butugychag: the point was actually to hunt for leakz
mircea_popescu: wasn't that the point, mostly ?
ascii_butugychag: that you can theoretically maintain an airgapped trb node...
ascii_butugychag: btw this means, in case nobody noticed in the summer,
mircea_popescu: oh sorry he meant eatblock-the-term-of-art
ascii_butugychag: but i can't argue that the serial processing is asinine
mircea_popescu: i was discussing the problem in its general form!
ascii_butugychag: if they were full.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_butugychag> the stock sync mechanism is batshit insane << this yes. but even if all that were fixed, verification will still take time.
phf: but the thinking at the time was that trb peers shouldn't be cascade sending you bogus chains, when you don't ask for them, and that optimization should start with improvements to block request/response mechanism
thestringpuller: orphanage thermonuke test 2
PeterL: yeah, it seems like there should be a way to tell it to cache some blocks to check later?
ascii_butugychag: the stock sync mechanism is batshit insane
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: actually it would be quite trivial to parallelize, i just haven't the hands presently