a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 18:50 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913262 -> for one thing you'd be surprised what people actually eat without complaint and for the other it's not even the sausages they are moving for; usually it is more about the "comfort" aka the environment that *least* magnifies their own particular problems (in other words that lies best to them).
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913300 << fwis, well off vhs emigration is almost completely powered on hallucinations about "the kids".
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, if a piece of hardware doesn't work in the manner it's expected to, the common word used to describe the situation is "defective". there's no dispute here : nobody has to buy hardware that works in a way that they do not condone. it is not the ddr slot's fault that such hardware can be had, is it.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 18:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can't resist to 'pump' the heat gradient, i'd even prefer if you bid on auction yerself and milked 'bicyclist' w/ own steam.
asciilifeform: ( it relies on fact that ddr3+ doesn't actually give the caps enuff time to charge/discharge fully )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i have ddr3 boxen at piz, BUT they're ecctronic.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not 'officially' iirc. but the boojum is well-documented, erryone can decide for himself
mp_en_viaje: anyway, did we ALSO cap ram at ddr2 and i missed the memo ?!
mp_en_viaje: lol. it's all about the middle.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dislike ddr3 (3, 4, +) for safety-critical applications -- 'rowhammer' . but i have nfi for what mp_en_viaje uses these, then again.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 10:44 mp_en_viaje: in other news, i bought a buncha fx amds, 9590s, 9370s, 8370/8350 ; plus their respective a3+ boards, gigabyte, assus, w/e.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913257 << the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912285 items are all dd3.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-22 11:41 mircea_popescu: one of the best examples is a fellow known as varanul, ie dan voiculescu
asciilifeform: there's a grain of truth at least in that the bolix docs are held much tighter than, e.g., nsa's malware srcs. quite likely a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881634 dynamic is in play, to this day.
amberglint: I could try to probe the uploader of that video, but chances aren't great
amberglint: it was apparently designed in the west coast part of bolix, which is the graphics division afaik
asciilifeform: 'ivory' + os, on other hand, was extremely polished product (unequaled dev environ, multi-year uptime, etc) , so my interest is specifically there.
asciilifeform: there is not even enough public info to say exactly what it was.
asciilifeform: amberglint: it was mentioned in the shrobe paper iirc
asciilifeform: 10y ago i was at the 'what were the designers thinking' stage. but today -- concrete questions.
amberglint: the one that was supposed to be a RISC thing, Sunstone
amberglint: by the way, there was a bit of info about the last Symbolics CPU in the 2004 AI Memo by Shrobe
asciilifeform: will watch it, just in case, when i have some time. but i dun expect much , from these.
asciilifeform: at this point (where i have pinout, approx description of the internal movements, timings, leaked instruction set spec , a working machine to probe ) i dun expect to find much in the way of useful clue in old talk by designer
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 20:45 phf: it's funny that 36xx series is basically an improved cadr. ivory on the other hand? literally scheme86: they poached both the main guy who worked on the cpu ~and the entire toolset~. ivory was still designed on CADR (rather than smbx), because that's where scheme team designed theirs
amberglint: asciilifeform: have you seen this lecture by Tom Knight? from about the same time, but not strictly about the Ivory: https://www.csail.mit.edu/node/5861
BingoBoingo: PeterL: I'm not opposed to the idea, but it took dropping the one auction down to 500 USD before it started drawing regular bidding action. Before then I was starting auctions one after another before one would get a bid. Also if an exchange rate auction over 500 USD and pay the datacenter auction over 2835 US vary by too much that gets messy.
asciilifeform: it isn't anywhere enuff info , however, to make a cycle-accurate clone ( i.e. reliable emulation ) . for this, will need the actual internals .
asciilifeform: amberglint: was given not only pinout, but timing, addressing, etc. spec, theoretically could bring up the chip and boot something.
asciilifeform: so possibly dun even need , necessarily, the board layout
asciilifeform: amberglint: it did not result in very useful picture ( the 'production' model of ivory has thick metallic lid which my tube does not penetrate. ) xray was bought to photograph the 'macivory' pcb tracks. but since this, i was given a pinout (not published yet, cuz again short on time)
amberglint: amberglint: yeah, I remember your recent attempt to x-ray the chip to get a better idea how to decap it
asciilifeform: amberglint: for microscopy, difficulty is in decap ( can't afford to lose samples to botched decap ) and then delayer ( i expect will need at least 1 shot with stripped metal , after surface shot , to get useful output )
asciilifeform: it'll need, i expect, fpga + usb3 chip (cuz 200MB/sec to properly sample all the pins)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 14:16 asciilifeform: little flex pcb thing, inserts under the 'ivory' and brings the signals out to analyzer.
asciilifeform: amberglint: once i wrap up ffa, will proceed to bake a probe for the working machine, to get oscillogram of couple minutes of bootup/run
a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 21:45 BingoBoingo: This update raises a serious issue in the lack of success I have had setting a price point at auction this month http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/10/pizarro-isp-update-february-10th-2019/#selection-31.0-49.104
BingoBoingo: There's also this thread in log http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894828 Anyways, I do want to see auction built up. Will try to see if I can get bicycle guy into WoT. As far as brokering I don't know how much formality can/should be injected before the ceremony of formaility becomes a handicap.
asciilifeform: i have 5 samples of 'ivory' (incl. the 1 installed in working machine) , still not enuff to throw around without thinking
amberglint: asciilifeform: I was glad to read in the logs that you found the pinout and those other docs
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 18:27 asciilifeform: seems odd that someone would effectively give 3k / coin to us 'for phree' for the privilege of not participating in auction.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913285 << heathen exchange rate moved significantly since auction happened, when the auction finished it was pretty close to heathen rate
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 21:50 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform met with some meatspace folx who rent out time on sem & ion beam station by the hr. 'bout a hundy per hr.
asciilifeform: amberglint: most recent movement on this front, is that i found microscopy shop where reasonable price, but self-service -- gotta decap & delayer the thing personally
asciilifeform: amberglint: the 1 you posted was actually clearer.
amberglint: asciilifeform: I've stumbled upon a video recording of the lecture on the Ivory given by a bolix engineer in 1987, apparently uploaded by a bolix 'graphics division' alumnus just two weeks ago, thought I should share it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e39LnDVBl4c
asciilifeform: observation is not from pov of 'ooh, must save these poor gullible derps'. i readily agree, neither can be saved nor is particularly interesting use of time to try.
asciilifeform: i meet these regularly.
diana_coman: eh, they will live among emigrated friends of same type, basically re-making the local village, what
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 18:53 diana_coman: there are as many types of sausage including cardboard ones in Ro, no problem
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913306 << diana_coman : the thing typical 'sausage emigre' dun realize, is that in reich there is not only cardboard sausage, but ~cardboard people~
BingoBoingo: Well we've had this line http://pizarroisp.net/2019/05/06/pizarro-april-2019-report/#selection-13.1470-13.1550 in the monthly reports for a few months now since 500 USD WFF was settled as the bidable parcel
diana_coman: there are as many types of sausage including cardboard ones in Ro, no problem
diana_coman: well yes, that would have been perfectly ro to in the '90s ; not now though
asciilifeform: 'sausage emigre' is stock term from rusphere , there folx chronically cited '50 types of sausage' as 'first impressions from new york' etc
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: if I read that correctly, asciilifeform simply says that you should arbitrate yourself the 2 markets you have access to, since you consider it worth it.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 16:00 asciilifeform: 'move to usa! 500 kinds of sausage in the store!' 'cardboard with antibiotic?' 'shuddup terrorist'
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913262 -> for one thing you'd be surprised what people actually eat without complaint and for the other it's not even the sausages they are moving for; usually it is more about the "comfort" aka the environment that *least* magnifies their own particular problems (in other words that lies best to them).
asciilifeform: 'bicyclist' gives none of these
a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 22:07 BingoBoingo: Anyways, if there is something I can do whether that is standardizing the length of auction, day of the month it starts, duration, etc feedback is welcome.
asciilifeform: there aint no 'accidental' warm barrels in taiga.
asciilifeform: but realize that 'ooh, this barrel i found in the taiga is warm!' is how chukcha ends up sawing open rtg.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can't resist to 'pump' the heat gradient, i'd even prefer if you bid on auction yerself and milked 'bicyclist' w/ own steam.
asciilifeform: say one day 'bicycle' doesn't turn up. then wat. yer out x coin, and there's no fallback bidder.
BingoBoingo: But for the past several months, the Oriental Republic has been paying more for coin than inside the Serene Republic
BingoBoingo: I'll try getting the guy to GPG
asciilifeform: seems odd that someone would effectively give 3k / coin to us 'for phree' for the privilege of not participating in auction.
BingoBoingo: If the cash can be acquired locally for just under 8000 USD/Bitcoin to pay the datacenter, it seems like a prudent opportunity to build up the local network of corruption
BingoBoingo: We have our May exchange rate from the Auction of: May 2019: 1 BTC = 5319 USD
BingoBoingo: And TMSR exchange rate has been running noticably below heathen exchange rate.
BingoBoingo: We've been doing the 500 USD auctions the past few months to set the exchange rate. 500 USD auctions because bidding on higher amounts of WFF has been low
asciilifeform: otherwise how can say 'tmsr exchange rate' .
asciilifeform: imho we oughta keep the auction going properly.
asciilifeform: is 'bicycle exchange' participant in the auction ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the person I've been dealing with to get cash locally
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: Bicycle based exchange says he can do the datacenter's amount with a week's notice so I am inclined to go that route this month.
asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, o(n log n) int mul. ( spoiler: with gigantic constant, a la aks )
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 04:25 mp_en_viaje: I find your precise, explicit style quite refreshing ; please drop by the Most Serene Republic's <a href=https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/trilema>online forum</a> sometime." comment on your site, but it says "Wrong."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913172 << this is odd -- worx 100% afaik (observe, orig. commenter was able to post.) didja answer the 'x xor y' riddler ?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/05/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-jan-febr-and-march-1716-part-v/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of Jan. Febr. and March, 1716 - Part V.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 08:25 spyked: re. ticket machines: whole ticket infrastructure in buc (and as far as I could tell timis too) is contracted to UTI, who installed embedded shit that for years wouldn't go past the power-on BIOS screen (they used AMD CPUs with some Linux distro on top). ticket machines are a few decades away, although there are maybe three of those in buc.
asciilifeform: 'move to usa! 500 kinds of sausage in the store!' 'cardboard with antibiotic?' 'shuddup terrorist'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 17:02 asciilifeform: they remind asciilifeform of those glue traps for ants.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 00:19 asciilifeform: gotta wonder if the derps suspected that it would turn into http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt2.jpg
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 08:03 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913107 <-- /me is curious re which hinterlands. has some photos from places that might qualify, but they didn't make the cut.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 05:00 mp_en_viaje: http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/images/aluminium_electrolytic_bad_4.JPG << whoa holy shit, feather!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913231 << fwiw, here's a few that i had found then : >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/graffiti/index.html
a111: Logged on 2019-05-14 08:25 spyked: re. ticket machines: whole ticket infrastructure in buc (and as far as I could tell timis too) is contracted to UTI, who installed embedded shit that for years wouldn't go past the power-on BIOS screen (they used AMD CPUs with some Linux distro on top). ticket machines are a few decades away, although there are maybe three of those in buc.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913236 -> lolz! ploiesti (~60km north of bucharest) simply has machine at bus stop, put coins in and get your tickets, get on the bus and stamp them sort of thing; totally works too, as far as I saw none of them broken or anything and they've been around for some years already.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so i just had the currier drop on me a certain something...
spyked: re. ticket machines: whole ticket infrastructure in buc (and as far as I could tell timis too) is contracted to UTI, who installed embedded shit that for years wouldn't go past the power-on BIOS screen (they used AMD CPUs with some Linux distro on top). ticket machines are a few decades away, although there are maybe three of those in buc.
spyked can definitely see the pointlessness of bus -- and sometimes tram -- transportation, where the bus in question spends most of its time waiting for the traffic to clear.
spyked: mp_en_viaje, besides timisoara very walkable. morning walk was cca 30 minutes from near the slaughterhouse/sala olimpia to e.g. cathedral.
mp_en_viaje: never tried in ro, i don' tsee the point of subway-less "public transportation". i can bus about in my car as well as they can.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, in civilised world there's automated machinery, stuff in bills get day or 3 day pass.
spyked: it gets extra lulzy in the slums, where once in a while they bring cops/gendarmes for security, otherwise impossible to fine 'em
spyked: course, use the same strategy) on fire to the point that ticket collector goes away with tail between legs.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 21:15 asciilifeform: the notion of 'members only' tram, is so preposterous, that i suspect outright sabotage, a la 1960s usa (where various skulduggery resulted in the complete disappearance of the tram -- and in certain places , of ~all public transport -- to prop up 'auto industry' )
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913111 <-- in ro it's mostly stupidity, the thing's publicly subsidized anyway. the way local orcs in bucharest circumvent the member-only thing is by not paying for it, even tho it's about a quarter $ per trip. then when the dumbass "controlori" arrive, they play dumb and complain that "nothing ever changes in this country", which sets other frustrated travelers (who, of
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 20:57 asciilifeform: ^ lol almost exactly asciilifeform's photoroll, if you subtract the 'hinterlands' (where imho the most interesting oddities)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913107 <-- /me is curious re which hinterlands. has some photos from places that might qualify, but they didn't make the cut.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-12#1912777 <-- nope, confused customs lady just asked me what's in there and handed the package over. afaik there's a threshold for goods that aren't e.g. cigarettes that exempts them from taxes
BingoBoingo: I assume the chickens are for some sorta fly god.
BingoBoingo: Seriously. If you are sacrificing to a diety, use fire to teleport the offering to the diety's chosed realm. Otherwise Imma have to assume the thing being worshipped is the flies.
BingoBoingo: Finally figured out who's been leaving dead chickens on the street corners. Apparently there's a local Afro-cult that likes giving flies places to breed.
BingoBoingo: I suspect as much as well. Here people walk old dogs, other old dogs roam free.
mp_en_viaje: http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/images/aluminium_electrolytic_bad_4.JPG << whoa holy shit, feather!
BingoBoingo: Saw very few of them in old country. Fairly common thing here.
mp_en_viaje: yeah, this one has a respectable beard too. kinda funny, the dog beard.
BingoBoingo: Saw a herd of three old black dogs in a park today. But all three had the whitest old dog beards I have ever seen.
mp_en_viaje: dog was indescribably fucking happy ; and for once in life, the roles were reversed. the ingfangdog dun eat as good, who the fuck has the sense to get his pet boiled lamb bones. shop treats ftw, "civilised"!!!!
mp_en_viaje: except yest, hanbot made an excellent lamb soup ; and nicoleci took him the... boiled lamb bones.
mp_en_viaje: so he's, basically, the poo relative, dog-socially speaking. but he waits patiently there, chats up with his friend in dogbark occasionally, it's not that bad a life.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of which, there's a very cute old dog a few houses down. he has a friend who lives on the property, inside the fence ; but he lives outside, in this one perma-dry spot under a tree.
mp_en_viaje: maybe they complain dog doesn't eat oats and hay ?
mp_en_viaje: but they do eat dog
mp_en_viaje: they;re complaining people don't eat dog ?
BingoBoingo: With the slogan is an image that's supposed to be dog face on one side cow face on the other
mp_en_viaje: what did they imagine ? it's incomprehensible.
mp_en_viaje: i confess i don't get the hipster pantsuits derping about "double standards". holy shit, of course yes ? wtf, the whole fucking point of society is double standards. the policeman beats him up, not me ; the cute teen spreads her legs for me, not him, the whole fucking point of life altogether is the double standard.
BingoBoingo: But then there's these retarded animal non-eaters stenciling "Doble Moral" on the temples of beef
mp_en_viaje: truth is, it's mostly fake grafitti ; after the original works some [usually small rural] towns started giving money to kids to "grafitti".
mp_en_viaje: fucking fugly bronzes the romanians made. possibly the least talented statuary, ro bronzes are like anglo-american cuisine.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: This being a republic of men, not law... The integrity of your privates is important to us. Take your time and keep your keys safe.
mp_en_viaje: I find your precise, explicit style quite refreshing ; please drop by the Most Serene Republic's <a href=https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/trilema>online forum</a> sometime." comment on your site, but it says "Wrong."
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 21:22 asciilifeform: 'tis hilarious, this seq. of amputations. the capitalists, terrified of urban unionized workers, abolished... industry, and work. ( replaced with 'office plankton' system. ) result is present-day usgistan.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913114 << "capitalists". the inept sons of capitalists, who were more dedicated to ineptitude than capitalism.
BingoBoingo: Apologies for the delay in invoicing this month. This batch required more log reading than normal
a111: Logged on 2019-05-11 22:39 asciilifeform: i wouldn't bother 'recapping' a 100bux konsoomer board, typically
a111: Logged on 2012-11-19 07:25 mircea_popescu: "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone"
asciilifeform: curious folx, the anglos. it's almost as if they consciously went for a slow-motion poincare scheme.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:23 mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever.
asciilifeform: an' they didn't do it to http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747456 , either, cuz 'ohnoez, agro-peasants also could be 'red'! '
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:21 mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a countrys industrial base, telling him that I have never in my life heard such idiocy
asciilifeform: 'tis hilarious, this seq. of amputations. the capitalists, terrified of urban unionized workers, abolished... industry, and work. ( replaced with 'office plankton' system. ) result is present-day usgistan.
asciilifeform: planned and successfully-executed re-introduction of serfdom. public transport had to die first, 'or plebs could go without car'. then, cities had to be turned into bmore darkest africa, to nail the possibility of living close enuff to 'office' to walk. and so on.
asciilifeform: ( today's familiar 'office jerb -- mortgaged house -- car on credit' triangle, as documented by orlov, was being constructed then )
asciilifeform: the notion of 'members only' tram, is so preposterous, that i suspect outright sabotage, a la 1960s usa (where various skulduggery resulted in the complete disappearance of the tram -- and in certain places , of ~all public transport -- to prop up 'auto industry' )
asciilifeform: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-531.0-531.297 << holyfuq. asciilifeform was leaving, thought 'hm, oughta have tried the trams, are they same as on home planet -- oughta be, given as all of our trams were imported from ro' but apparently nodice
asciilifeform: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-523.0-523.215 << even i know answr to this riddle -- it's because timis is in austria-hungary , and not really ro at all
asciilifeform: ^ lol almost exactly asciilifeform's photoroll, if you subtract the 'hinterlands' (where imho the most interesting oddities)
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, https://pubpress.net/houseads/2017/11/22/hiring/house/en/300x250_mrec_blue_php01.png
asciilifeform: 'tis funny, to asciilifeform , lotsa whining re sub-measurable leaks from nuke plants, ~0 whine re 'feed meat antibiotic by the tonne'
BingoBoingo: Brazil is roughly on par with the US when it comes to such agricrimes.
BingoBoingo: Supposedly the imported cattle are going to be sold domestic market only, but the fact it so very obviously sounds like a cattle laundering scheme makes the idea retarded.
asciilifeform: when and where no lord to round up the culprits an' pour molten lead down their throats, this kinda thing is as inevitable as sawdust bread, i suspect
BingoBoingo: A number of the policy wank locals find it "problematic" Uruguay's beef is more expensive than Brazil et al's beef completely neglecting Uruguay's beef sells as the premium product since Argentina fucked theirs up.
asciilifeform: there's a sov-legend re how hrusch send to cuba a boat of cows, as gift. unsurprisingly -- all died within weeks, not being of a breed that can stomach the tropics. then coupla yrs later on official visit, gromyko asks to see the herd. is told 'they cannot take the sun, we pasture'em at night'. skeptical, but let matter drop.
BingoBoingo: In local news fuckers are preparing to start importing live cattle from Brasil to feed the domestic market, and these same fuckers are lamenting how "expensive" Uruguay's beef is. https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/uruguay-a-un-paso-de-importar-ganado-en-pie-desde-brasil-2019513145826
diana_coman: well, Romanians basically had the germans imported precisely to build some towns finally so in those terms ruins other than the roman ones are relatively recent anyway.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc )
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913013 -> not exactly *that* style afaik though some "new ruins" exist; as do old and then older ruins too; basically have your choice of ruins, year and style.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 18:07 whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere
lobbes: growing up near beaches, I got bored of them fast; can take em or leave em. and with my pale complexion the idea of visiting uruguay in the cooler months actually sounds nice
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Well, if you want beaches November to Early December is the time. Late January on into the summer heat makes the cyanobacteria bloom. Late December to Mid January is the tourist high season.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super << I believe the sight that most excited ben_vulpes down here was "Supermercado Winn-Dixie"
lobbes: I may indeed take some time in the next months to make a trip down there at least. If anything to clear my head and sort some things out (plus, I've never met another Republican in the meat, so there is also that plus)
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913031 << If you've got some hands what Pizarro can really use is help on the outreach and conversion front. I'd also suggest making a run to Uruguay before picking Uruguay as your escape hole.
BingoBoingo: I've not dealth with the stuff much here. Habitation module has electric stove built in.
asciilifeform: and apparently their hands grow from arse , regularly set flat on fire
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha BingoBoingo already answr'd. they're using bottled gas
BingoBoingo: "Supergas" they call it
BingoBoingo inclined to see if bicycle guy can handle this month's Datacenter payment in light of the growing divide between Republican exchange rate and heathen exchange rate
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner ) << Well in their language they call the mains "luz" so it does the lights.
mp_en_viaje: the idea is of course to foster communities, rather than try and find communities t o exploit.
asciilifeform: lobbes: i used to frequent such shops. they're all gone nao. from elementary 'giant sat in the chair' dynamic.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> how's pizarro doing these days btw << Waiting for alf hands. In the interim about to send invoices.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner )
asciilifeform: the idjit orcs want 'ipnoje', and that's afaik it
asciilifeform: the difficulty of getting iron over the fence isn't even the worst thing, but rather 'who's to buy'
asciilifeform: lobbes: i will not go as far as to say 'hardware shop? poppycock' but it is roughly similar to idea of setting one up on the moon
lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:23 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (i kinda suspect BingoBoingo would do a lot better with a partner on the grounds, tbh) << I suspect similar
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905113 << speaking of hands, pizarro, and hopping the fence: so what'd be the plan here? Get a republican hardware shop up and running in uruguay? Or perhaps have a second pair of hands on ground to help with pizarro affairs?
mp_en_viaje: how's pizarro doing these days btw
asciilifeform: nao this is troo. hence why took up the piz matter
mp_en_viaje: if it did, all the reaction lesbians and transgenders'd be happy
lobbes: went for broke in the reich, no?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 17:28 a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
asciilifeform: i suspect in bucharest the locals are moar preoccupied with finding 'sugar' jobs at microshit tentacle and saving up for miami
asciilifeform: diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 00:02 asciilifeform: other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg
asciilifeform: lol recall albert speer's 'ruins theory' aha
asciilifeform: when i saw these, i was certain they had to be ruins (of the ru '90s 'walls carefully disassembled by scavengers' sort) -- but apparently not
asciilifeform: gypsy can do amazing things. iirc mp_en_viaje described, how the half-built palaces asciilifeform saw in timis, were built by'em
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
asciilifeform: also funnily, when going there , asciilifeform went in wrong door, ended up in some sorta gurlz' dormitory. labyrinth of unlit hallways; knocked on several doors and faced with surprised orc chix in bathrobes etc
asciilifeform: i saw several of these, we sat for a while tryin' to come up with synthetic language to speak lol
mp_en_viaje: if you're serious rather than just floating by, every fucking task or thing escalates 4ever
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to me it was very amusing because, on one hand, "hey nicoleci , where in chicago do i hire lawyer like this" and on the other hand, HOLY SHIT, it's not just computer programmer who goes to turn down volume and is there for two days rewriting the os.
mp_en_viaje: thus by the time he was knocking at my door ~2pm, he had been working for 8 hours
asciilifeform: if it's the same fella asciilifeform met, i can picture this scene
mp_en_viaje: so he went to market, bought materials, rebuilt his storage there.
mp_en_viaje: the place he had them stored in, he got just about the time i was leaving. so my box was in the bottom of the pit. "i must've been thinner then", he says, cuz well... couldn't get into there. eventuslly managed to squeeze in, sideways, but then, once got box... couldn't get back out.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz : my ro lawyer came to me ~this sunday~, to return archived papers.
asciilifeform: meanwhile , in ru heathendom , (translation mine) : 'there is a sign that distinguishes a troo programmer from an impostor. a true programmer , before going to bed, will put on his nightstand two glasses. one with water -- in case in the night he becomes thirsty. and one empty -- in case not.'
asciilifeform: i have other 'surplus' gear also, for folx who have a use; e.g. a 'icestick' (ice40 '4k' (half-size)) proto-board, buncha similars, at some pt i'll make list
asciilifeform: aha, that's the idea
mp_en_viaje: it's pretty smart, in that it keeps the marginal value within republican walls.
asciilifeform: would rather put in hands of l1 than sell for twobux on ebay and enrich omidyar et al
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 11:48 phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
asciilifeform: (just like the 'mp cam' )
mp_en_viaje: also depends a lot what you do. if you car everywhere, even a tripod in the back may work. if you hands-in-pockets and walk, might even be too bulky.
asciilifeform: also sony, 'a6000', inexpensive. ( anyone thinking of trying it should be aware that the included lens is mediocre however. but it does take vintage lenses of various vendors via adapter. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912942 << i had one at 1 pt, sold it for the described reason and bought what is nao known as 'mp cam' in 2011. but earlier this yr retired it in favour of a recently introduced thing that is sorta in between the two, has removable lens but around half the mass of typical dslr.
asciilifeform: in other noose, amd 'family 22' cpu (i.e. where they introduced fritz core in 2013) has obvious breakage in 'usg.random' instruction (also introduced then, in footsteps of intel) : https://archive.is/BMJwJ
mp_en_viaje: anyway, what's the proble mwith selling it, put it on ebay for a buck, ship to whoever ends up winning bidding war, done.
mp_en_viaje: was considering it at some point. but the idea is for it to serve me, not the other way around.
phf: i have a dslr that i got off somebody as debt repayment, which ended up putting me into a silly lock: it's heavy and not something you just grab with you, on the other hand i don't want to buy a smaller camera "since i already have dslr and i should sell it first", but then i also don't want to deal with selling it
phf: i didn't bother taking camera with me, because i didn't expect there to be any activity besides the parade, but the city was in full celebration mode
phf: it was probably the most engaged of all the celebrations i've seen here. we went to a hookah place, a kind of popular bar/restaurant: the staff were dressed in "military" outfits, there was a bunch of tables full of men eating and drinking vodka, making toasts to the fallen heroes and dead relatives
phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912257 << i can corroborate the sentiment, i didn't get to see the parade directly, but saw all the activity around it
mp_en_viaje: engagedment to teach the local baron's singing <-> engagement to teach the local baron's donkey singing. check out the impacted d[onkey].
mp_en_viaje: this "sceptical" is very much the same story as afanti's [aka nasreddin] engagedment to teach the local baron's singing in a year, on the theory that "i am hungry now -- who knows what will be in a year". he's skeptical as to the future. you're not, you have a theory as to the future, the difficulties are in the implementation.
asciilifeform: i kept waiting for the inevitable prikoke cite. where is it 1!!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 17:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, no theorems isn't it. there's that famous case of my driver whom my mother (who was bumming a ride) asked in shock why'd he'd go around playing valet for a 17yo. he said something like "not everyone's a big deal". man had 0 theorems to prove, but also didn't go around deluding himself on the matter.
mp_en_viaje: ~are aware~ it's a scam. now it suddenly costs him more to figure out wtf you're doing than it costs you to play. sometimes this occurs to him, in which case you sudden;y got a conection in the local underground.)
mp_en_viaje: (think about the example -- the fellow running it has been doing it for a while, very readily spots that you
mp_en_viaje: there's a very marked difference between the people who know it's a scam -- and therefore ~NEVER~ indulge and the people who know it's a scam and yet very occasionally indulge. the difference's the former are "well educated" engineers, whereas the latter "illegal"
mp_en_viaje: from an engineering perspective, the strategy's "too tight", fails at what could be described as "useful waste". the sort of activity like going on an aimless walk, or talking to an unknown woman, or playing a few rounds of three card monte with some guy on the street.