assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:16:26; mircea_popescu: much as in the case of a recent game of go - what exactly would it being clear or unclear to you do ?
mircea_popescu: i even promise to not pelt with invective the poor receiver whichever way he chooses to go.
mircea_popescu: ow fuck, that's ANOTHER thing i won't have to do, resolve that god damned bet, huh.
mircea_popescu: much as in the case of a recent game of go - what exactly would it being clear or unclear to you do ?
asciilifeform: though it was never clear to me that the delay-game played with germany was a mistake.
asciilifeform: i recently finished an interesting history, 'Расстрелянные герои Советского Союза' (Heroes of SU who were condemned to the firing squad)
mircea_popescu: afaik this is on the record, even.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, it was, in the copies, a mega-l0l quite comparable to the false asceticism of medieval monks
mircea_popescu: a strength both understood and tried to be replicated by a bunchy of lesser copies throughout the "unalligned" movement and well beyond.
asciilifeform: he was not, in the sense discussed earlier, 'moved by poverty'
asciilifeform: his aptness - or ineptness - are not the moving part here
asciilifeform: he, afaik, simply did not have the tastes with which he could enjoy a reward for his work.
mircea_popescu: but most to do with how idiotic everyone else was, not not even measure up to the georgian.
mircea_popescu: and to disabuse THAT notion, i don't personally think stalin was either very apt, very smart, or any sort of example to be followed. is, indeed, a notable example for all sorts of things,
asciilifeform: what was his reward for leading the 'blind kittens' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was an observation, rather than prescription, i am noting that you are doing a megatonne of unplesant wurk for phree.
mircea_popescu: not terribly fair to raise the children thus.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not doing more shit for free in this context ; not only because it is outrageous for the recipients of charity to direct the disbursement of charity, but most of all because the end result of a world kept clean, warm and humming along on charity is a disproportionate feeling of power in the idle denizens, who then end up running into "steel walls".
mircea_popescu: these are deeper issues that what can be addressed in plain conversation, i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, the lulzy "a man that doesn't believe in allah can't possibly not go on a murdering rampage" deeply held if ridiculous, and certainly unexamined belief of egyptian peasants, except translated in time and space to you know, "one in a position of authority is necessarily both bad and responsible!"
mircea_popescu: to do this heavy lifting as long as they are given just the right facts, filtered from the noise."
mircea_popescu: "They consider themselves leaderless. They can have representatives, they can have "evangelists" but they have to believe that their conclusions are all their own, through individual reflection and objective consideration. Interestingly, and on purpose, they believe their brains can handle such an analysis, any analysis. This isn't arrogance. They are told, by universities and the media, that their mind is prepared
mircea_popescu: well, we're many layers above that, however. in this rarefied atmosphere which, however frustrating, is still many miles above the peasants with their fuckgoat, we meet the twin dragon of, on one hand,
asciilifeform: but holding a gigantic bag of other folks' coin is not really an outsourceable job.
asciilifeform: as far as i can see, the only chance of it resolving cleanly involves mircea_popescu doing a multitude of 'things for phree' which is one of the reasons he is in none too happy a mood.
PeterL: so these are separate issues
PeterL: yes, but receiver and buyer would not have to be the same person
asciilifeform: PeterL: but receiver would have to actually hold the keys, however briefly
PeterL: asciilifeform the receivership of bitbet could include refunding all bet deposits, then the site could be sold without transfering the bet funds, let them restart from scratch?
asciilifeform: illiterate peasants hitting one another with broken-down spades over a stolen fuck-goat
asciilifeform: it is the pestilence that drove my deep disinterest in bitcoin ~users~ 2009-2012.
mircea_popescu: it's the historical and to my eyes first sense of mean / meanness.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you familiar with the saying "can take girl out of the trailer park, but not the trailer park out of the girl" ? that, except for boys.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:36:05; mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people who, however poor may they be irl, are still not driven by the poverty so to speak.
mircea_popescu: well yes with their consent, it's not rapine.
mircea_popescu: that's the usual sense of hostile in that context.
solrodar: with their consent
solrodar: mircea_popescu: as I understand the listing agreement, both you and kakobrekla need to agree before either of you can sell your joint 50%
phf: mircea_popescu: hey some people clearly want to see blood. i think judgement should exclusively affect only people's wot ratings and is necessary for when the issue is complicated and needs an investigation. sort of like a write up that supreme court judges do. nobody even needs to agree with it
mircea_popescu: there's two peter lamberts ?!
asciilifeform: PeterL: it'd have to be sold to someone who can be relied on not to run off with the contents ?
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 16:13:22; mircea_popescu: by all means. hence, " and if there's a single icann in the lot with enough actual gumption to put together a hostile takeover package, i'll certainly consider it."
solrodar: that could be resolved by other means than liquidation
solrodar: I think the real problem here is not the solvency or otherwise of bitbet, but the fact that mircea_popescu and kakobrekla have had a breakdown in trust and no longer want to work with each other
mircea_popescu: judge is going to rule "hey, mp must continue to spend liberally to try and build a thing out of nothing - BUT THIS TIME WE DECIDE HOW MUCH AND ON WHAT!!1" thus turning tmsr into the 51 state ?
asciilifeform: i don't know which direction detonator in claymore unscrews, either.
mircea_popescu: in this life tho, you went another way.
mircea_popescu: yes, in a different life had you grown to be a jew and went into commercial law rather than kaballah, you would have done fine.
asciilifeform: let the pro sappers do it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not think you have sufficient brain. business is business, there's nothing "technical point of view" about it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i mean, from purely technical point of view, i think i have sufficient brain, but if it became known that i have the ignition keys to xxx btc in my house, i will last maybe a day before gestapo.
phf: jurov: and when judge passes a verdict and mp does not comply or whatever the outcome is we can say "tmsr as an instituation has failed and we can walk away" i mean, what's the problem there?
mircea_popescu: jurov i said, at the time, that i can't in good conscience allow people to vote largesse out of mpex. plox, read the thing you're talking about.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432312 << wai wut, i am by no stretch of the imagination qualified to clear the bbet minefield
mircea_popescu: mp did follow it, but jurov is none to bothered with things like logic, or not outright lying, when there's something the monkey on his back WANTS!!1
solrodar: yes, and then declared he would never subject himself to something like that again
shinohai beware the ides of March
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:32; phf: i think this question is receiving far less attention then the alleged miner collusion. i would've liked to see it approached through a judge (perhaps moon is a harsh mistress style "would you be our judge?"), a carefully constructed paper, an investigation, rather than bickering in logs. i think the question is also separate from receivership and is about ensuring that the rest of tmsr maintain a shared vision
jurov: phf there is no judge mircea_popescu wuld accept such "verdicts" from. remember when rota decided in similar way?
PeterL: mircea_popescu what about the part of the listing that says shares will be paid out a minimum of 0.00001 ? If selling the domain+code does not cover the 17btc shortfall and this minimum, are you and kakobrekla expected to pay this out of pocket?
mircea_popescu: this usually attracts talkers, if they be any good, at least. exactly the same way it worked for satoshi, and exactly the same way it always seems to work out, a little later you look around and there's all this democracy and "consumers have come to expect" and general bullshit imported, which you don't even rightly feel able to explain whence it came.
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people who, however poor may they be irl, are still not driven by the poverty so to speak.
phf: count the whole list?
mircea_popescu: i was here before you, phf , doing exactly the same thing. so count the whole list thx.
phf: i think this question is receiving far less attention then the alleged miner collusion. i would've liked to see it approached through a judge (perhaps moon is a harsh mistress style "would you be our judge?"), a carefully constructed paper, an investigation, rather than bickering in logs. i think the question is also separate from receivership and is about ensuring that the rest of tmsr maintain a shared vision of what has transpired,
phf: nubbins`: the core of the issue (the way i understand it) is whether or not mp can use personal funds to pay out bets, and whether he can later ask for those funds back from shareholders. that seems to contradict the contract, so the accusation goes, he's in breach of contract. seems simple enough.
phf: into a controversial protocol behavior, mp called it "miners are conspiring against bitbet". you can personally call mp stupid for that, but there's no "crime" there.
phf: nubbins`: i think it's a pointless to discuss (and takes away from the core of the issue) whether or not miners are conspiring against bitbet. ascii's been known to say that lizard hitler personally disconnected his node, nobody cared to pipe in then, because it's an established local way of talking and thinking (не веришь прими за сказку). miners are a cartel, they can collectively decide what the protocol behavior should be
phf: invalidates not just mp, but others who participated in construction of tmsr.
phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don't have to obviously, but the approach that you chose was basic and
mircea_popescu: this new learning amuses me, go protect the earth from earthquakes with banana peels or whatever it is you do for great glory.
mircea_popescu: and this is mp's fault, because unlike everyone else he at least you know, try to run the daycare for half a decade ?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 15:56:32; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why would anyone step into receivership. a fee of anything less than the bill is lulzy small and will tar the receiver. doing it for free is chumpishly cleaning up mircea_popescu's mess.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432210 << so basically we have a community full of people who confuse "voice of sanity" and "people on tilt" liberally, and by and large is willing to "discuss" everything from this arm's length position of "whatever, as long as we're spending other people's money here's what we think", but by and large can't do anything AT ALL ?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 14:51:36; phf: "it is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of marxism-leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics akin to those of a god."
solrodar: I did the trb call graphing work last year
mircea_popescu: who are you anyway ? either of you two ?
solrodar: I am considering it, but doubt I have the necessary reputation here
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 14:39:06; kakobrekla: it would be trivial for me to generate a list (and for him to confirm its legit) of bettors that need to be refunded, he can then take a haircut for the expenses that brought bb down (nothing i can do bout it) and case closed
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432065 << if you wish to help the receiver along through donating all/part of the work in a publicly verifiable manner, that is your privilege and i am sure will be appreciated by the beneficiaries who they may be.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 14:04:26; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i did also. and we had a sorta diploma work thesis at the school i went to, and mine was re: feasibility of solving go via neural net...
solrodar: snorera: there is no reporting, it's a fiduciary arrangement, they can't actually control what the receiver does
mircea_popescu: well yeah, creditors generally. it can't just go, "hey, shareholder's interest is they get all moneyz so there. problem solved."
solrodar: mircea_popescu: if you mean creditors, they have to respect their claims but they're ultimately working for the shareholders, right
solrodar: once receiver is appointed, previous shareholders and management have no say in how the business is run
solrodar: receiver takes over the business and then either sells it or liquidates it with the intention of maximizing the return to the previous shareholders
mircea_popescu: and in other news, dear god what log.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i will be astonished if bitbet actually goes into receivership. >> and i will be astonished if one day you get off ass, actually do something. but then again, that's our respective problem.
snorera: reciever just has to work out whjat the fuck is happening
phf: ben_vulpes: hehe, the 5 stages of grief :)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you think mircea_popescu was murdered by cia and hitler wants the 750 betted coins to buy a new airfart-one ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, kakobrekla, et al: is bbet for sale for the cost of the shortfall? or do i entirely fail to grasp the algo here
snorera: if there isnt i certauinly dont get one
asciilifeform: snorera: i dun think there is vote.
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ben_vulpes: davout: tis the Great Divestment.
snorera: i meant its likely the reciever woould try to maintain, but i can see yuo as it
asciilifeform: snorera: calls, at the very minimum, for an expert sapper, who is not a reich subject
asciilifeform: snorera: i'm pretty sure i don't meet at least 4 or 5 of the qualifications.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why would anyone step into receivership. a fee of anything less than the bill is lulzy small and will tar the receiver. doing it for free is chumpishly cleaning up mircea_popescu's mess.
asciilifeform: the protocol says pretty much nothing save what constitutes a valid tx and block.
davout: protocol says miners can include it or not, at their own option
asciilifeform: davout: correct, the 'promise' says it.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 15:27:14; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was moving coin that was legitly movable, as per the (rotten) protocol, sans fee.
asciilifeform: i expect it is still there.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes already thinks that mircea_popescu spent the betted coin on drink? or what.
ben_vulpes: how could i be so thick and naive! asciilifeform points out that the coffers might not even contain anything.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lemme guess, you expect to see that he will turn down dooglus because he isn't active in modern wot, jurov because he agreed with nubs, you because usaschwitz inmate, and this leaves nobody so the bets get eaten ?
ben_vulpes: hey vex back for the drama?
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 21:22:28; ben_vulpes: ascii_field: game theoretically permawedges obviously.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431714 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432045 << upon consideration the (absurd! ridiculous! i don't understand how the world works!) schelling point is for kakobrekla and mircea_popescu to split the haul
snorera: he's got 4 chinese girls in the shed
asciilifeform: snorera: ty for inhabiting the shitland that exists to make usaschwitz look good!
asciilifeform: so this'd be rather like faulting a fella shot as a bystander in a bank robbery, for not wearing a flak jacket that day ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was moving coin that was legitly movable, as per the (rotten) protocol, sans fee.
asciilifeform: the incident hanbot described concerned freshly-moved coinz.
nubbins`: You weren't caught in some occult and unknowable coincidence that was out of your hands [when you chose to send a 0-fee tx and you got bitten as a result]. You either didn't make sure you understood the basics of using bitcoin, or else you decided not to care.
nubbins`: asciilifeform but the set of possible reasons is finite and bounded
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have nfi why he transmitted without fee. just as i have nfi why the operators at chernobyl reactor 4 wanted to 'test'
nubbins`: asciilifeform what would have been your conclusion if wednesday was the colour magenta? what, are we discussing hypotheticals now?
thestringpuller: I'm still confused I guess as to why no fee was used for the payouts..........
thestringpuller: this is what was stated why the payouts were using 0-fee tx?
nubbins`: a desire to see the world bend instead of him, etc
nubbins`: thestringpuller idiocy / cheapness
thestringpuller: was there ever a reason for using no tx fee?
thestringpuller: he is the best thing bitcoin has to offer
asciilifeform: no, srsly, mp's elbow button aside, who is the example nubbins` would have us learn from ?
nubbins`: no, although mp's demonstrated a karpeles-esque mastery of the protocol lately
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and who then was 'actual business' ? mtgox ?
nubbins`: in the sense that a lemonade stand is not a food service business, regardless of the nickels rolling around the lemons
nubbins`: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE looks like the market's reacting pretty strongly to mp's rashness
snorera: or someone dropped a fucking polar bear orf the deep end
snorera: so they're pubes?
nubbins`: i'm clean-shaven these days
snorera: dont leave any beard bits in the water pls
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 14:51:36; phf: "it is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of marxism-leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics akin to those of a god."
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432087 << danielpbarron the bible says something similar to this, no?
kakobrekla: nubbins` i dont have any data on mempool backlog during the period
phf: "it is impermissible and foreign to the spirit of marxism-leninism to elevate one person, to transform him into a superman possessing supernatural characteristics akin to those of a god."
nubbins`: was there a massive mempool backlog?
kakobrekla: speaking of: i had a 0 fee transaction confirmed today. it was made by mistake on or before 26 feb. and was not visible on any block explorer for the period of 18 days.
nubbins`: at which point mp's ego took the wheel
nubbins`: asciilifeform at the risk of once again putting words in kakobrekla's mouth, i think it's just a case of kako being unwilling to sign off on "expenses" introduced by mp that kako felt were not legit
kakobrekla: i dont think dividends ever paid the bills.
kakobrekla: i can publish if someone wants to read. in very short, its: no skin in the game - no game
asciilifeform: because right now the only thing i read was mircea_popescu's 'and kakobrekla refused...' thing
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i forget, did you ever write at length re: your side of the unpleasantries ?
nubbins`: no, i'd tell bettors to sign a statement with the address they used to fund their bets, in order to receive a refund
kakobrekla: it would be trivial for me to generate a list (and for him to confirm its legit) of bettors that need to be refunded, he can then take a haircut for the expenses that brought bb down (nothing i can do bout it) and case closed
asciilifeform: how is that different from ' mircea_popescu ought to have eaten the loss '
nubbins`: asciilifeform i'm not the one who introduced "rest of your life" absurdity here
asciilifeform: nubbins`: yes well the question was not about bets. it was about how long you would have mircea_popescu wait for a receiver.
nubbins`: what's the maximum allowed length of a bet on bitbet?
nubbins`: "the rest of your life"
asciilifeform: give to the first hobo who asks ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what would you do in his place? spend the rest of your life waiting for a receiver ?
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 21:02:11; ben_vulpes: "I will simply consider the matter moot." << and keep bettor funds if no receiver steps forward?
thestringpuller: last time americans tried that all we got were these lousy anti-trust laws
thestringpuller: not everyone can have a fully vertically integrated business from the get go
nubbins`: hot dog vendor: "what if the price of buns goes up?"
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 20:57:48; mircea_popescu: hence my comment about fragility. there are two main threads here that would-be bitcoin entrepreneurs must heed quite closely. one is that - your expense structure is not either a) in your own control or b) specificable. for as long as your business model involves bitcoin as it currently exists, you're doing the economic equivalent of linking remote dlls.
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431630 << if the summarized version of this is "it sometimes costs money to do things", then i guess all businesses have an uncontrollable, unspecified expense structure
thestringpuller: that seems to be a practical problem of neural nets. had an ex who's best friend's dad at the time worked on AI. He told me this story about how they were training a neural net to identify enemy tanks from allied tanks. well all the allied tanks had good pictures. the enemy tanks were recon photos taken at night. So the nn ended up learning to tell difference between photos taken at night vs day
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 17:20:06; ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see, in particular, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-01-2016#1386298
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:19:22; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there were once two schools of thought re: how to do 'ai'
thestringpuller: that's why that article was so interesting to me as a 13 year old since the AI in games was exhibiting emergent behavior not seen previously. (or at least throughout my childhood)
thestringpuller: that was what I focused on the most in 8th grade - LTM in neural netowkrs
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nn forgets as readily as it learns
asciilifeform: and, unlike google, theirs has none of the secretive derpitude, it plays on kgs, they post progress reports, etc.
thestringpuller: It would seem Go or any game is playable via neural net if you train the net well enough?
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, who recalls that arsebook also has a go thing?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i did also. and we had a sorta diploma work thesis at the school i went to, and mine was re: feasibility of solving go via neural net...
thestringpuller: I have a soft spot for neural networks cause I spent many of my 8th grade lunches in the library building them.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: http://www.wired.com/2002/03/aigames/ << although a snorefest to you, this is the article that got me into AI
assbot: One of the world’s most notorious hackers just revealed his identity to me ... ( http://bit.ly/1pj5Jld )
asciilifeform: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/14/one-of-the-worlds-most-notorious-hackers-just-revealed-his-identity-to-me << lulzy imbecilic 'l3337 h4xx000rz' piece. even features the obligatory romania.
mircea_popescu: this may be the first case of a person who is an age.
asciilifeform: lessee if they let'em.
asciilifeform: other champs already lining up to play
mircea_popescu: i guess either we see a bunch of more games where this theory is tested, or else the great achievement goes into storage to keep the d-wave company.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 10:20:24; mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read the lee sedol games? << i've looked through.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1431921 << it came out that the bot only is able to think about a dozen moves forward, and if none too much branching.
thestringpuller: only if my coworkers actually worked as they do here when working from home
polarbeard: I don't commute, code can be transfered over the wire :)
mircea_popescu: " This firm grasp of sex and gender allowed Kasich to authoritatively heap praise on the legions of women who left their kitchens to help his campaign (archived)."
nubbins`: so the outstanding liabilities to shareholders could be as high as 50%, tho i doubt it.
nubbins`: altho i guess technically they also could have sold 1mn shares each from 3.2 (f)
nubbins`: (ipo proceeds were paid directly to mp/kako rather than to bbet)
nubbins`: the remaining 30 would come outta mp's/kako's pockets
mircea_popescu: of both kinds, i guess. with any luck, balance shifts slowly to the left as time goes on.
mircea_popescu: xm2hi> yeah, and about the ecosystem that Mircea has created. impressive records. << - >> ascii_field> << there will be maxint of these now won't there.
mircea_popescu: but yes, by and large there's a lot of discretionary room for receiver.
mircea_popescu: a "bitbet is in receivership, send no more bets" thing, give it a week or w/e. i doubt the receiver would have to wait out any ongoing bets, can prolly just refund if the reasonable resolution is too far away in the future.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: does the bbet receiver have the authority to determine the cut-off date for acceptable wager resolutions and to refund any bets submitted but deemed "too far away" for the receiver to reasonably hold the funds in escrow ? or is this line in the sand to be drawn by you and kakobrekla ? << in general this'd be the receiver's authority. a reasonable path is you know, get the domain, put up
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> was that the one where operator turned out to be << yes, with the reserve these ex post facto "turned out to be" things deserve.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read the lee sedol games? << i've looked through.
BingoBoingo: For the EE nerds
BingoBoingo: adlai: 'Murican politics is like pop kabala, it's nihilism and fraud all the way down
adlai must admit that before reading this latest article, he wasn't sure which party kasich celebrates; and that is still the case
BingoBoingo: Please feel free to add further lulz in comments
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431681 << a) a rose by any other trust backers would smell as sweet i'm sure b) i missed the part of this saga where this is not the
nubbins`: !up The20YearIRCloud
nubbins`: danielpbarron does that say that mp and kakobrekla are on the hook for the 0.00001 BTC per share? it says "the representatives", "they solemnly promise and warrant"
punkman: seems like S.MPOE holders didn't like the bbet announcement
xm2hi: and learning about the risk management.
xm2hi: yeah, and about the ecosystem that Mircea has created. impressive records.
nubbins`: i'd say many people are reading the listing agreements
xm2hi: spent the whole weekend reading MPEX
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431596 << i can't imagine any good-faith receiver honouring these terms, no.
xm2hi: getting to know the you guys.
nubbins`: well then!
thestringpuller: New England has the best pizza ever.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: you familiar with the Windsor area in CT?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: does the bbet receiver have the authority to determine the cut-off date for acceptable wager resolutions and to refund any bets submitted but deemed "too far away" for the receiver to reasonably hold the funds in escrow ? or is this line in the sand to be drawn by you and kakobrekla ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: why do you hate neural nets? what did they ever do to you?
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 22:46:10; ascii_field: anyone else here read the lee sedol games?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 21:40:59; mircea_popescu: there's been if memory serves exactly one case of delisted company on these grounds, bvps.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431738 << was that the one where operator turned out to be a junkie?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431776 << there will be maxint of these now won't there.
mpSCAM: whats there to converse
mpSCAM: and tried to blame the miner collusion LOL
mpSCAM: you got owned popescu games the exchange
pete_dushenski: https://www.math.upenn.edu/~wilf/website/PSUTalk.pdf << on the subject of algebra ii as it relates to social sciences
pete_dushenski: "Incentive problems arise due to the presence of asymmetric information or imperfect commitment, which lead agents to act according to their own biases or preferences rather than in the interest of the organization" << timely
ascii_field: anyone else here read the lee sedol games?
assbot: BayAreaCoins , Steven Steiner is showing all the marks of a SCAMMER! ... ( http://bit.ly/1RfJpFS )