felipelalli: there are a URL that keep the log of this channel? (please don't say "read the logs to know it") - and how can I search something in the log with deedbot? Is that possible?
BingoBoingo: Bed shitting is so common in hospital they even have shit pan for bed.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i only asked because a few of the discussed items in the past were from your mailpile iirc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. it's public anyway, i wouldn't really do anything but point to the thread in private.
asciilifeform: and a number of other key components of the kernel, such as memory allocator, are also in c
asciilifeform: but many of the drivers appear to be in c
asciilifeform: the thing claims to support sound blaster 16, even.
asciilifeform has not tested! or - for the most part - even read! for study only.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that the enemy did not see it fit to try to sell us a clever dud
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i take it no one again wrote in re the block cipher thing ?
mircea_popescu: and in other "you no come to disturb" news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/bffddb815a4fb5798504ebd69be1cd87/tumblr_nyim1w1FhS1tlxqgjo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: then people wonder wtf i say trilema readership ~= 2x all of conde nast
mircea_popescu: in other fucking lulz : pms on literotica, for ~day and a half. 5 clicks on bitly link, of which two mine checking it works. ARTICLE on trilema discussing the matter and in very passing offering the [unlinked] url for the bitly link. 12 clicks after half a day.
asciilifeform: prolly the morty in 'rick and morty' ?
mircea_popescu: "in the us the nsa has powers and bla bla bla. why are you crying, little boy" "I WANT TO GO TO THE USA!!11"
asciilifeform: with the ice cream.
asciilifeform: virtually all of the spending is on 'contractor'
asciilifeform: they get 'ex' to do ~anything at all~ !
mircea_popescu: only people who can summon the energy anymore.
mircea_popescu: they prolly got an ex to do it
asciilifeform: the brit crypto schmuck sewed himself into bag? etc
mircea_popescu: phf> for the good of the country and our fellow law abiding countrymen << and unrelatedly and no doubt very insignificantly, ALSO for lack of any dudes that can be arsed to kill.
asciilifeform: at least when it is not against the amazons.
mircea_popescu: you know this is vaguely homo! wtf do you care what some fat derps see themselves as.
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then you go into a tizzy when i consider how fat women on etsy "see themselves".
asciilifeform: and 'desperate for funds' is not quite it - they have vastly more funds than staff (for n00bs to subj, usg spending is - in a perverse and difficult to understand formula - tied to organizational staffing..)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and, in particular, the prevention of mircea_popescus << heh. don't flatter self, mps aren't prevented by some sort of captain planet "by our powers combined".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: theory concerns how the perpetrators see ~themselves~, rather than what ends up actually happening
mircea_popescu: openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work <<< that nsa and all are desperate for funds because the toilets are overflowing and the cheap wallpaint flaking in their shitty "coffee" is neither surprising nor actually too convincing towards the proposed theory.
phf: there's 3 stores that sell sprats, beluga caviar, kefir, etc. within max 20 minutes of walking from where i am
mircea_popescu: jurov> does the fagspital exist anywhere? <<< on buyan!
asciilifeform: also gpgme sucked donkey ballz in every conceivable other way.
phf: gpgme in homebrew goes out of its way to build with gpg2 with that same mantra that tech wreckers use everywhere, it's deprecated. don't question it, morty, it's deprecated. the community deprecated it. yep.
mircea_popescu: trinque what was the key extracto command ?
phf: a111 is just sitting there
phf: but then someone approved it, which kind of makes me recognize the point you make about maggots
phf: this job posting is ridiculously bad, and i wouldn't know about it if these "vital labs" people didn't have such poor taste to post it to lispjobs
phf: "We are looking for a ~generalist~ developer with a ~front-end focus~ and strong ~interest~ in working with the Clojure ecosystem who can lead or contribute to all aspects of a modern technology stack."
asciilifeform: but rarely is ~any~ of it necessary, because the number of folks who ~merit~ any of this treatment hovers around ~0.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a more or less convincing argument that the cleanups are ~expensive~ and so the kill is used ~sparingly~
asciilifeform: or the nailgunned folks.
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that anybody cancelled the 'license to kill'
phf: latest boind explained it for the rest of us, mi5 with their license to kill is out, gchq with their license to survey is in :p
asciilifeform: the 'aha moment' line is quite arbitrary.
phf: i'm just failing to grok how that article warrants an "A-ha!" moment, when there's basically an endless stream of ineffectual aha-s for 90 some years (as far back as i read about this stuff)
asciilifeform: but until very recently, the fiction was maintained that 'hackerz are a law enforcement matter'
phf: well, in that article their pretense is defense against the hackers, a "recognized international cyberthreat"
asciilifeform: (which really meant, wrecking su, so alternatives to the reich could not come to exist)
asciilifeform: prior to ~that~, they had half a century of pretense of 'defense against su'
phf: it was always out in the open, they just gain new powers. each cycle brings a new pretense with a new set of powers
asciilifeform: they had an elaborate pretense of 'terrorism!111' going
asciilifeform: and my point was that, at least formerly, the genuine ideology was ~not~ in the open.
phf: i don't know ~who~ you're explaining this to, but you're missing my point. nsa/gchq ideology is out in the open, so there's no need to read it into any random event. if a policeman beats up a nigger one day and saves a kitten from a tree another, there's really no reason to read "reinforcement of hegemony" into the second action, since there's the first one
asciilifeform: presently, the main preoccupation of the vermin is dissent and betrayal within own ranks.
asciilifeform: and in general, the prevention of honest commerce as a possible thing to exist.
asciilifeform: and, in particular, the prevention of mircea_popescus
asciilifeform: it means, approximately, the maintenance of status quo
asciilifeform: and heard them prattle on
asciilifeform: that's the funny thing, it isn't hidden at all.
phf: why look for hidden messages, when there are open messages available
asciilifeform: phf: the 'idiot mode' thing is a clanging cymbal to distract reader from the brick-in-your-face-obvious fact that nsa et al openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work and are shedding the pretense of 'defense against foreign devils'
phf: the story immediately goes into idiot mode, where they say GCHQ called up publisher over leaks, but "nobody knows what they would've done if that was a real leak". triangulated the internet of course
jurov: does the fagspital exist anywhere? here they want only blood, drawn hastily on some unholy morning hour
asciilifeform: 'In a radio interview last week, Nigel Newton of Bloomsbury Publishing spoke about how the publisher had employed strong security measures to prevent possible leaks, including guard dogs and a constant security presence at the printing press. Seemingly, the company also had the support of GCHQ, the UK's primary signals intelligence and surveillance agency.'
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/04/gchq-wizards-helped-prevent-harry-potter-book-from-leaking-online
asciilifeform: in other noose,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one time, long ago, i pwned a sp4mz0r's box and it turned out that one of his pw's was 'balabusta'. i had the word in the back of my head ever since
phf: "I note from the IPS address template that certain parties – quite possibly of the Jewish persuasion – attempt from time to time to break into the site and destroy it."
mircea_popescu: makes no sense, of course, but then again genre fiction is genre fiction.
mircea_popescu: ie, all the "infected" humans get together into this huge swarwming mass to be avoided.
rithm: ethereum is still a thing?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "the herd" is apparently a trope in the genre of "post-apocalypse/zombie invasion" copywriting.
asciilifeform: no, but there is a tremendous herd of captive cattle.
mircea_popescu: there's no market at work here.
mircea_popescu: gravity works the way it works ; entropy idem. it doesn't say you can't put things in orbit. it just says it won't be worth it.
asciilifeform: has anything outlived mircea_popescu's fatwa by longer than the eth thing ?
mircea_popescu: and in today's further installment of weird, http://www.seductivejewess3.com/type-id31-genya-sarah-golub/ (scroll down)
asciilifeform: and what is the 'omniscient' spybot of google for, if not to avoid the schutzstaffel thusly wasting its time ?
asciilifeform: does nobody read the logz.
asciilifeform got YET ANOTHER 'we would l0000ve to have you!1111' from usg
asciilifeform: the interesting aspect is that this was a glorious and joyous thing, because...
asciilifeform: the korans were of a very spiffy edition that does not exist on our planet, every 'key phrase' was annotated in 6 languages, but only one of them was arabic, the 5 others i did not recognize as earthling scripts at all.
asciilifeform: in not entirely unrelatez nyooz, i had a dream that they passed out korans at the office, and bearded blokes walked around to inquire, regularly, how much each schmuck has read and understood.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that the more intelligent the subject, the larger share of his problems are of his own creation ?
mircea_popescu: most disputes as to physical reality resolve through some form of argumentum ad acceleratorum ; it stands then to reason most disputes as to social interaction will resolve through some form of argumentum ad slut hotel.
mircea_popescu: the fact of the matter is that irrespective of how foreign, the gyneceum is in point of fact the matrix of a whole lotta things.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449999 << there's something that does : the people involved aren't sexually intimate. yes, slavegirls enjoy working in "open kitchen", often hands in same pot. nevertheless, if you had tried to mix them with their mothers / insufferable siblings etc, watch the fireworks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450020 << i can't help but wonder if mircea_popescu actually thinks the inside of his harem is relevant to other people. i find it interesting, yes, but it is rather like the inside of a particle accelerator - not particularly related to any situation i am likely to ever encounter imho.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:48 ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
asciilifeform: i grasp how mircea_popescu might enjoy hunting idiots for sport from safe height of dirigible, and he has plenty of leisure for this, like medieval lord - but the time budget ~i~ have for idiots, is 0.
asciilifeform: but the fermentation ought to take place in specially-designated barrels, not in my kitchen sink plox.
asciilifeform: they are welcome in my petrol tank
asciilifeform: hey i did not say i dun want them in my fuel filter
mircea_popescu: you know the story of the beanstalk that decided it will not interact with any evolutionary inferior aggregations of matter, but only the superior ?
asciilifeform: i literally don't need them for anything
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am into not-interacting-with-imbeciles, of either sex, in any capacity whatsoever, if it can be at all helped.
asciilifeform: there is this strange presumption, apparently shared even by jurov, that somebody looking for work is necessarily unemployed or underemployed and 'will do anything'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 05:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449953 << word. nfi when bois figured "the way to carrie" is to "be a recruiter" instead of w/e the fuck those schmucks in friends/cheers/whatevers are. "designers" or "writers" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450009 << literally 5min ago i got yet ANOTHER call from one of these imbeciles
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:50 phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 17:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sex anal cu tractoare, motocositoare si combine agricole >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mVOd8zY3D8 << 'in Flyshitte, in the Red Corpse Kolhoz... there lived Tractoresse!'
mircea_popescu: fixing old perl ERP << o brother.
asciilifeform: the pentagon is a few km away.
asciilifeform: in the heart of mordor.
jurov: asciilifeform: i was some time on freelancer.com picking nuggets that indians won't do (like adding mysql plugin in C, or fixing old perl ERP) and I wasn't earning much for few months, and then one of the people approached me with much bigger and $better$ project.
asciilifeform: 11:02 <+jurov> but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance? << because there is ~0 demand for what i do among folks who employ freelancers ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:04 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
jurov: but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance?
gernika: the telecommute *can* give one more time, as asciilifeform says - 60 hours a month. Health too - commutes are not good for you.
asciilifeform: nah they could come in handy for something.
jurov: so you don;t want to get rid of them anymore?
asciilifeform: jurov: this exists, it is called the train
asciilifeform: for instance, i do 3+ hrs of UNPAID idiocy every day, just sitting in the motherfucking car.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:04 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
mircea_popescu: and in other news... http://49.media.tumblr.com/54cadd320beb6a3efa1b85b4e3bd721a/tumblr_nisw8hzBzU1stthtfo1_400.gif
deedbot-: [Trilema] Files from the War on the Web. Today, Literotica. - http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/
mircea_popescu: incidentally phf is there a log bundle for download somewhere ?
phf: yeah, uryupinsk made me all nostalgic, "mother russia" and all that. химки just looks depressing.
phf: yeah that's a good choice. that one is particularly painful one, because it has no qualities beyond "people sleep there and then commute for 4 hours everyday to work in moscow"
mircea_popescu: sounds like the great name of a russian bakersfield. could even be a character, Jim from Jimki
phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
mircea_popescu: http://www.oneblog.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/normal_caracal.jpg << other items of local flavour
mircea_popescu: ering ; the train station had a monstrous clock whose face had the time in both roman numerals (I to XII, except for IV which is for some reason marked as IIII) as well as arabic (13 to 24). etc.
mircea_popescu: (also locally famous for the locally-celebrated "7 wonders of Caracal", to wit : that it has a prison, on Freedom street ; one bread factory, on Famine street ; the only school is called "School #2" ; the fire department burned down ; the door of police preceinct was stolen ; they built around a high crane in such a way the crane couldn't be extracted anymore so was left on the grounds, a sort of monument to caracalean engine
phf: yeah, i'm wondering if there even exists a ru equivalent concept
mircea_popescu: bakersfield is this specific thing, satellite city of the great city where the zombies live.
mircea_popescu: phf what's the moscow equivalent of bakersfield ?
phf: it's hard for me to defend that picture, sort of like watching your parent's debauchery pictures, except hypothetical "parents" because my parents were actually cool. perhaps parent's friend's cousin from small town.
mircea_popescu: o wow, woulda look at that. science utterly prevailed then, has it.
mircea_popescu: not too young, not too tall, not too in shape, not too tits, not too experienced, wtf fucking strippers are these already. being old should at least mean you no longer behave like the coy imbecile.
phf: i mean they just discovered bowie
phf: aye, symbolics style https://www.facebook.com/509092289172342/photos/pb.509092289172342.-2207520000.1460355053./771729566241945/?type=3&theater
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:48 ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450000 << install a coupla poles, hire strippers to work in the middle and serve one free drink/hour ; you're made.
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:47 phf: there's nothing that makes an open office like that an inherently bad idea. i'm sure before it turned into a nasty cost saving fad, a group of people could assemble for a period of time and in such a space so as to successfully deliver. it just that the model now stands for shit jobs, because that's the only jobs easily accessible in failing economies. a shit job is not going to be made better by a wfh
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449999 << there's something that does : the people involved aren't sexually intimate. yes, slavegirls enjoy working in "open kitchen", often hands in same pot. nevertheless, if you had tried to mix them with their mothers / insufferable siblings etc, watch the fireworks.
mircea_popescu: that right there is cargo cultism at its peach pit core.
mircea_popescu: nothing can ever be wrong with the principle of things. just... gotta do it the RIGHT WAY.
mircea_popescu: it's the other schmucks not pulling on their own foreskin in the exactly right way that barred them from peach pit lovin', you see. nothing wrong with the principle of things.
mircea_popescu: if only you pulled on your foreskin LIKE THIS particular way, the peach pit girlfriend would TOTALLY materialize.
mircea_popescu: very typical of the ambitious twerp to imagine moontrip by own breech pulling is JUST THIS ONE TWEAK AWAY
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:00 punkman: a lot of it is from the fucking recruiters spamming everywhere with imagined job descriptions
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449953 << word. nfi when bois figured "the way to carrie" is to "be a recruiter" instead of w/e the fuck those schmucks in friends/cheers/whatevers are. "designers" or "writers" or whatnot.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: will no doubt show up later and "young fool that sounds like the most miserable thing", and yes. we are young fools.
phf: there's a difference between "when we rich we get individual offices" and "we all scream together in a giant room, because we're happening right now"
ben_vulpes: can't afford individual cubes for everyone, 'tis the best design we came up with.
ben_vulpes: benefits: a) privacy. only the desk next to a given desk can really see what's on the screen. b) gotta be intentional about conversations, look around the monitors at each other.
adlai: sounds like a microchip,of the square millipede persuasion
ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
phf: there's nothing that makes an open office like that an inherently bad idea. i'm sure before it turned into a nasty cost saving fad, a group of people could assemble for a period of time and in such a space so as to successfully deliver. it just that the model now stands for shit jobs, because that's the only jobs easily accessible in failing economies. a shit job is not going to be made better by a wfh
adlai tries calculating how much tighter to wind the five remaining strings to compensate for the snapped e
ben_vulpes: but hey, enough like home that the memory should fade one day
adlai: gernika: that's just how autodesk was, but it was a pretty cool office. i'd probably kill a family member (no-nuke-o) to work there again.
adlai: BingoBoingo: awesome. timeliness is not the problem, but rather... https://youtu.be/LqQlCOmXuHM?t=55s
adlai: asciilifeform: as i just said (to my dad!), "every time i open my mouth, i add-a-lie to the world"
asciilifeform: phrase on everybody's lips was 'Quand je serai lancé'. As it turned out, nobody was 'lancé', the slump descended like another Ice Age, the cosmopolitan mob of artists vanished, and the huge Montparnasse cafés which only ten years ago were filled till the small hours by hordes of shrieking poseurs have turned into darkened tombs in which there are not even any ghosts.'
asciilifeform: twenties there were as many as 30,000 painters in Paris, most of them impostors. The populace had grown so hardened to artists that gruff-voiced lesbians in corduroy breeches and young men in Grecian or medieval costume could walk the streets without attracting a glance, and along the Seine banks Notre Dame it was almost impossible to pick one's way between the sketching-stools. It was the age of dark horses and neglected genii; the
asciilifeform: see also orwell's proverbial 'During the boom years, when dollars were plentiful and the exchange-value of the franc was low, Paris was invaded by such a swarm of artists, writers, students, dilettanti, sight-seers, debauchees, and plain idlers as the world has probably never seen. In some quarters of the town the so-called artists must actually have outnumbered the working population — indeed, it has been reckoned that in the late
asciilifeform: but i dun need a flat in a motherfucking tower with no dishwasher for 5k/mo, for anything.
phf: what? san francisco is awesome, it's just it was ruined by the tech scene
gernika: no cubes even - just tables in medium sized rooms, sometimes staring cooworkers in the face the entire day.
gernika: that said, I no longer have to put up with the absurdity of doing that same work in an open office.
BingoBoingo: <adlai> BingoBoingo: how about that btc diff adjustment beat, is it still open? << yes, if you can submit them in a timely manner
asciilifeform: at this point i would do pretty much anything so long as it pays the bills and is 100% tele
punkman: a lot of it is from the fucking recruiters spamming everywhere with imagined job descriptions
a111: Logged on 2016-04-09 16:14 asciilifeform ON A MOTHERFUKING SATURDAY yet ANOTHER phone interview with folks who ~lied~ in advertisement re telecommute
mod6: in oct the place i was at which was wfh pretty much 90% of the time went under. found a life-raft at the current place.
adlai queues that for the qntra sparknotes column
phf: BingoBoingo: there's a su science finction novel, "a billion years before the end of the world", where an astrophysicist on a verge of discovery is plagued with random events that disrupt his work. so after some trials and tribulations he and his friends realize that universe exists in a sort of entropic equilibrium that creates an active counter balance to rational intervention
BingoBoingo: phf: I'm pretty sure if someone attempts that an avatar of physics becomes incarnate, personally finds the person doing that and delivers a swift kick in the crotch.
adlai: at least satoshi is keeping the price appropriate
adlai is listening to: Metallica - The Memory Remains (4:43)
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 02:27 mod6: asciilifeform: are you lookin for a wfh job then or what's the deal there?
adlai: shinohai: the lolz are that people generate keys using computers out of their physical control... or even, using computers at all
phf: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/02/meet-the-bughunters-the-hackers-in-india-protecting-your-facebook-profile is here to produce an angry twitch in alf
adlai: bitch, i am the one who posts
jurov: about limbs, haven't you seen their poster?
deedbot: adlai rated phf 2 << blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
jurov: there's lisp bitcoind?
adlai: $rate phf 2 blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449848 << number blindness is the first symptom of insanity, followed closely by name-blindness; subsequently, total loss of all five humors
asciilifeform: (the bitter taste may not even be a bug, but a feature.. - repels teenagers, trendoids, 10,001 species of pond scum)
asciilifeform: i'm mostly convinced at this point that any serious attempt at sanity will be a similar enough thing to ada that it will trigger all of the same allergies in same folks.
ben_vulpes: http://www.antiqbuyer.com/images/2012-ARCHIVE-2/IMG_3663.jpg << how about a shitty lathe?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes heh yeah she put it in there actually. pretty cool.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 21:52 ben_vulpes: https://angel.co/prismatic << 2 nerds raise ~20m to write lispalikes on the jvm. build consumer facing content curation apps. write a megatonne of highly useful, open source software. fail to pivot to enterprise once the consumer play is obviously not panning out, fold up shop.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449850 << i am reading the link and cannot at all tell wtf the co did..!
deedbot-: [serialized delusions] Scripting the web - http://explo.yt/post/2016/04/10/Scripting-the-web
deedbot: shinohai rated phf 1 << Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
shinohai: $rate phf 1 Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-20 00:05 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell chetty http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg/800px-Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg now this has got to be in the game.
ben_vulpes: another footnote to asciilifeform's trope about how little software is written off-the-clock
ben_vulpes: https://angel.co/prismatic << 2 nerds raise ~20m to write lispalikes on the jvm. build consumer facing content curation apps. write a megatonne of highly useful, open source software. fail to pivot to enterprise once the consumer play is obviously not panning out, fold up shop.
ben_vulpes: (phf: mega thanks for the inline loggurgitation)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: Someone offered me a few bits to install it on a server for them and I declined.
ben_vulpes: i started reading through it a year and a half ago when i committed to excising appleware from the house
asciilifeform: 'I created a proof of concept of this attack. This isn't enough to launch a real attack, because an attacker only has 16 bytes of DOS assembler code, which is very little. For a real attack ... ' << l0l! fella apparently doesn't know that microshit PE format has a (i shit thee not) ~dedicated field~ for 'load exe from url and execute'
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if anything's gonna be damaging, it'll be that and naught else./
shinohai: https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/880-Pwncloud-bad-crypto-in-the-Owncloud-encryption-module.html <<< run own cloud, get rekt
asciilifeform: afaik it appears to be the latter ?
asciilifeform: does a leaked pr0n subtract, or add to, the value of future pics of same chick?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wai wut, weren't you the one with 'woman isn't even a woman unless her arse is posted on www'
asciilifeform: 133337 d000dz on dirigibles are never far from their cockpit, dun need no stinking pocket comp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> ~as if~ the most damaging thing to be lifted by attacker were picture of your face or arse ! << this is the case for about half the humans i physically interact with. think about that.
asciilifeform: (why? when i have the whole thing scrolling into eternity)
asciilifeform: generally i don't even ~use~ the www logz when on an actual computer
phf: asciilifeform: in a vaguely related note the way i've been reading is to click on the entry that i read last (whether it's last line or wherever in the logs) and then do refresh, which extends the log to new state, but keeps my context, something worth trying
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 14:55 asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf can haz bookmarkable url that points to tip of the logz plox ?
mircea_popescu: and ftr, just in case the kratos = power mind is strong and the verse reads "o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield [to the enemy]", it is not. it is mide fygis aischris archete mide fovou, ""o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield [to panic and a coward's flight]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:51 mircea_popescu: also, who was doing what so i can see the log line read in chat ? this is starting to drive me nuts. trinque ? phf ?
mircea_popescu: o neoi, alla machesthe par allaloisi menontes, o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield
mircea_popescu: phf why would they ?
asciilifeform: the first thing that goes when socially inept is allaloisi menontes << elaborate ?
mircea_popescu: it's these specific lobotomies that allow "certain kinds" of societies to function.
mircea_popescu: this is an exact mirror of how a different but overlapping set of societies deliberately and elaborately belames pretty girls to think "they can't do math".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it has ~nothing with thinking folks. i have seen this personally. the avenue is as such : thinking children are deliberately and ellaborately castrated by certain societies to become socially inept. the first thing that goes when socially inept is allaloisi menontes, as in http://trilema.com/2009/etimologia-democratiei/#selection-77.26-77.44