asciilifeform: 'Our server admin, in the midst of an investigation into a $130,000 theft, deletes his two keys, and only these two keys, without telling anyone, and then admits on our call that he did it because “they weren’t important.”'
asciilifeform: thing special, but we were content to have a professional taking care of devops at least well enough to enable our engineers to build upon the architecture.' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: 'We hired such a person, and patted ourselves on the back for our proactive decision. On paper, he looked great; the reference we called confirmed his prior role and responsibility. He’d even been into Bitcoin since 2011/2012 and had built miners in his room. Awesome. We’ll call this new employee Bob… indeed his real name starts with a B. Over the next months, Bob built and managed ShapeShift’s infrastructure. He did okay, no
asciilifeform: phf: aside from the useful 2012isms discussed previously (see logz - spark, predicated types, etc) the standard lib grew
asciilifeform: and finally understood why the '95 b00kz were so cheap.
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapePortrayedAsRedemption << lulziest thing in the usg-verse, that fantastic collection of mental representations.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 09:03 punkman: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/367 "we demonstrate various weaknesses of the random number generator (RNG) in the OpenSSL cryptographic library"
mircea_popescu: you should see the argentinian "work" calendar.
mod6: i'd rather beable to move those additional ~4-5 days around at will.
mod6: basically, you can't choose it, but they throw that in as in, "hey, look, we're such good guys we're gonna give you the day off even though you probably would have taken it off anyway; nevermind that the rest of the "free" world has this day off too."
asciilifeform: i celebrate 0 holidays and would prefer that they ~all~ be movable
asciilifeform: what the hell is that good for
mod6: asciilifeform: this place gives you 18 days on Jan 1st. they gave me like 5 days between when I started in late oct and the end of '15.
asciilifeform: mod6: you have the kind that can be stored for >1y dontcha.
mod6: i get quite a number of them, plent extra in case i need to interview.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: it's about the damned gyroboats.
mircea_popescu: "by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing". it's not aboot you!
asciilifeform: aha, then it turned into how asciilifeform is as dumb and unreflective as vorhees, or sumthing
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole discussion started with some derpy webservice being surprised by its own success or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing illegitimate about preferences, inasmuch as they're someone's preference.
mircea_popescu: hey, check you out using the sexual comparison skill to great disruption and awesome effect.
asciilifeform: and then how.
asciilifeform: or is this pref legit where others are not
mircea_popescu: suffice it to say that one thing leads to the next, and before you know it you're a robber on the lam with some dead nightwatchmen in your past, merely for "just wanting to". evil is fruit of the poisonous root, and for as long as one buys into the priors, one will end up in VCtron land willy-nilly.
mircea_popescu: well, their notions about the world are arguably also not a "universal good" in this sense, and similarly based on utter loathing [based in turn on fear, like all loathing {based in turn on unexamined ignorance, like all fear <supported by optionality, like all nonsense>}]
asciilifeform: my 'gyro-boat' has a found foundation in my utter loathing of the company of the typical meatsack
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, it's just this lifestyle / mentality thing. not SO different from your very own gyro-boat thing, really. by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which pseudopod specifically did they argue 'matters' ? usd ?
asciilifeform: and, presumably, not realizing that themselves also do not matter
asciilifeform: the kind stuck in
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the noobs : mpex 1st conference was principally this thing where voorhees and casares tried to convince me usg is the only game in town, with me laughing, and me stating mtgox isn't going to be around for long, with them laughing.
mircea_popescu: it's ~nothing, in the style of xapo and whatever else.
mircea_popescu: anyway, shapeshit's irrelevant with our without all the "oh noes look at how famous bitbet is let us try and engineer an imperial equivalent"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'LLI performed an assessment of the ShapeShift infrastructure against the CryptoCurrency Security Standard (CCSS). The assessment identified...' << holy FUCK what?!! <<< hey, the empire's hard at work.
asciilifeform: 'haxx0r3d because did not use the standard amulet and did not sacrifice to Great Inca!11'
asciilifeform: and, likewise, 'Although Deterministic Keys is another CCSS Level 2 requirement and not Level 1, LLI recommends ShapeShift’s architecture be re-architected to make use of deterministic seeds.'
asciilifeform: << ahahahaha! finally the usgtronic payload
asciilifeform: 'Ledger Labs drafted an Employee Security Policy and an Infrastructure Security Policy that identify security procedures and protocols for the use of ShapeShift assets. Employees are required to read and sign the policies and submit identification to ShapeShift’s Human Resources department. This control helps ShapeShift achieve compliance with CCSS Level 2.'
trinque: yeah, now they can sell certifications and have conferences, what?
asciilifeform: 'LLI performed an assessment of the ShapeShift infrastructure against the CryptoCurrency Security Standard (CCSS). The assessment identified...' << holy FUCK what?!!
asciilifeform: Simpson which had its log deleted. The last few lines of the log were overwritten with NULL (0x00) bytes, preventing digital-forensic recovery.'
asciilifeform: 'Analysis of Lenny’s Ubuntu operating system’s configuration revealed that – similar to Simpson – there was no logging or auditing configured beyond the default configuration that ships with Ubuntu. Analysis of the /var/log/auth.log file showed tampering via overwriting unlike
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 16:24 deedbot-: [Qntra] The Parting Of ChangeTip Continues - http://qntra.net/2016/04/the-parting-of-changetip-continues/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-18#1453376 << i still have trouble grasping the notion of 'tipping' outside the servility context (e.g., restaurants etc)
deedbot-: [Trilema] Consumerism is not the answer, though it will put you to sleep ; or, American History X - http://trilema.com/2016/consumerism-is-not-the-answer-though-it-will-put-you-to-sleep-or-american-history-x/
mircea_popescu: don't mind the coincidences.
trinque: the thing would stay connected for a week or more while I was developing it
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 17:13 mircea_popescu: check that out, poor deedbot. blackholed on the hour like clockwork
mircea_popescu: check that out, poor deedbot. blackholed on the hour like clockwork
asciilifeform: everything's mystical to the fella who dun have to live it himself.
mircea_popescu: eh, and man without "an appetite for labour" will have to do pretty good on theft ?
mircea_popescu: so then! what "ideological sauce". it's a fact.
mircea_popescu: "community" has gotten together and made it obsolete. *rolleyes*
mircea_popescu: no but that's exactly the pretense here.
mircea_popescu: what, it was made obsolete by the community ?
mircea_popescu: politics are easy ; technology is hard. that some people would dedicate themselves to the hard without any whatsoever effort put into the easy is both scandalous and suicidal.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> every chimp can punch out another chimp. no chimp made a boat.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 16:36 mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-18#1453427 << it is mircea_popescu'd ideological sauce that these are equivalent or even comparable, i get it.
asciilifeform: old men are not reflashable, (though i hear, they ~are~ recyclable..)
mircea_popescu: i know no such thing, and you're lucky you don't have tits, there'd be a whipping in it for you by now.
asciilifeform: there is not a cure for missed childhood development
mircea_popescu: but it is actual lived experience, not just theory. i have a female human right here whose task it has been to talk to women each day for the past months, and it has driven her to tears and the very brink a few times already.
mircea_popescu: you're fixing the wrong end.
mircea_popescu: mno. there's the end where you try to build a gyroscope-stabilized microscope on a small sea platform ; and there's the end where you start going to bars and picking up women you're not the slightest bit interested in and marrying them.
asciilifeform: there is exactly one end.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a problem. for some reason you're approaching it at the very wrong end of the funnel.
mircea_popescu: it surely as fuck solves iron right into the depths!
asciilifeform: understand, i would rather seal hard disks against sea foam, than deal with humans.
mircea_popescu: phf it doesn't count there, anymore.
asciilifeform: one type of item i deal with, like breathing. other - entirely useless in.
asciilifeform: understand the difference ?
mircea_popescu: this heuristic is about as idiotic as the heuristic that you consider men approachable for sex but women not.
mircea_popescu: every chimp can punch out another chimp. no chimp made a boat.
mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless you do not consider the former a feasible approach to the problem of tax ; but you without as much as batting an eyelash pull the former out fo ass in response to a challenge you hadn't even considewred!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not the point. the point was that YOU COULD, actually, wring a tax accountant's neck. you could not, as a factual matter, plug a leak.
phf: asciilifeform: you really need to be a mythical la-fondian character from robert howard stories to pull it off as "escape from rent", but then you won't be escaping to begin with, since you were never it
asciilifeform: and yes, somehow life on ships is 'adolescentine male fantasy' to mircea_popescu but shooting tax collectors (who, where i live, come in tanks and with heavy machine guns, by the dozen) isn't...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i just happened to go in one, on the way from place 'a' to place 'b'
BingoBoingo: Oh, is that what was going on at the Marina?
mircea_popescu: the problem of old people is that they don't think they may have permission to exist.
asciilifeform: phf: understand, i find it appealing strictly from the escape-from-rent angle.
mircea_popescu: "i need X for X" "wouldn't it be cool if X then i could Y" etc.
mircea_popescu: easy to be recognized because they come in a few standard flavours :
mircea_popescu: the reason this is so, is because as you age you become enmoored to various idiocies.
BingoBoingo: yw shinohai ty for the submissions
phf: it seems like a fun thing to do when you're young though, as long as you don't sit in the dock all the time ermagerd
asciilifeform: and when they start to leak, they use the lift (comes with the slip rent) and drag the tub to the communal repair lot, and work.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my understanding is that many of the folks doing the boat thing (and we have them even here in dc) don't go far from the parking dock.
mircea_popescu: no, "live on boat" is more of the same adolescentine male fantasy displayed by overfed neotenic preteens captive in aging, sagging bodies that won't grow up for the life of them.
asciilifeform: realize, the 2k/mo i wouldn't be paying in rent buys quite a few fixed leaks.
mircea_popescu: phf maybe they're zombie manatees ?
mircea_popescu: ~anyone can wring the neck of a mousy accountant.
mircea_popescu: too fat ? eat more junk food. too lazy ? get comfier couches. wanna escape rent ? move on fucking venus! no rent there, it's all costs!
mircea_popescu: and if you can't talk to women - BE MORE SELECTIVE AS TO THE WOMEN YOU TALK TO!!11
mircea_popescu: hey you know what ? pay more taxes, thatg'll malke them go away!
mircea_popescu: the notion that escape from rent is to go into a hostile element that's not self-sustainable is about as retarded as you'd expect from americans.
deedbot-: [Qntra] The Parting Of ChangeTip Continues - http://qntra.net/2016/04/the-parting-of-changetip-continues/
mircea_popescu: ie, if you can't afford the toilet paper in monaco, that doesn't mean it's because ofg the cost of tp you can't move there.
mircea_popescu: nowhere it is relevant for STRUCTURAL reasons. that it appears significant to you in x context it's only because you're not accounting for the other, more important costs, which also scaled up.
asciilifeform: rather than pleasure yachting
mircea_popescu: trinque thanks god you made it come back after getting fucked, seems an hourly occurence these days.
mircea_popescu: the point being, that the mooring costs of a small vessel are about as relevant to such decisions as the cost of toilet paper to choosing your eventual residence.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would park there immediately if i had a ship.
mircea_popescu: trinque re the darknet link
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform costs a lot less than that to park it in colonia on the rio de la plata.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prolly 90% of the reason i even read the man, is that his idea was solid - there is exactly ~one~ escape from the real estate leeches, and it is into the ocean.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ever consider doind the orlov thing and moving to one ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unrelatedly, i found out that orlov told the truth, and it really does cost only a few hundy usd/mo. to part a 30 ft. boat (on east coast usa at least)
BingoBoingo: Yeah, lead doesn't belong in the decanted fluid. It belongs in the glass of the decanter.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453238 << I guess I am technically downstream from Flint River, but first the water gets diluted in the largest freshwater lake in the world (4th largest by volume)
mircea_popescu: and something to interest the CA fans in the audience : http://trilema.com/2016/euloran-biology/#footnote_3_65938
mircea_popescu: ah no, it's handled as a round robin. you ask for it, dns server gives you the least loaded ip
asciilifeform: how does the chat.fn thing actually work?
mircea_popescu: in this case the dns round robin went to shit i suspec.
mircea_popescu: or in the immortal words of gnny sgt hartmann, i had no idea they stacked shit this high!
a111: Logged on 2016-04-15 16:03 mircea_popescu: phf a) can has 100 rather than 20 finds for search ? b) http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=moon&page=16 is last page notwithstanding that 16 * 20 !> 500
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452694 << i reworked search a bit, it now has handy nav, shows 100 and lets you nav through the whole history
asciilifeform: do you have a hardcoded x.fleanode or do you use the chat.fleanode.. randomizer ?
BingoBoingo: took hours for a reconnect to hit after the last time I was bumped off
BingoBoingo prefers the days of epic netsplits to this bullshit
trinque: all the condtions which result in losing my connection ought to be followed by re-establishing that connection
mircea_popescu: trinque there's something very deeply wrong about a system in which "what happened" has no bearing on "what to do next".
mike_c: so, something that isn't there is 'last seen'
mike_c: in my log it says: "trinque: what's the database name?"
mike_c: phf: what's the database name?
trinque: but whether SSL took a shit or ping timed out or... really has no bearing on what I'm going to do next
trinque: seems to be working; I have the exceptions logged, so if there are any that are worth fixing in a smarter way I'll have that information.
phf: i think i'm going to punt on bot fleet, and just focus on robust reconnect. worst thing is trying to powercycle a bot connection, while the room is spinning
phf: in fact nc -v chat.freenode.net 6667 from the bouncer host is giving me connection timeout, but this random connection works :o
a111: Logged on 2016-04-17 08:17 mircea_popescu: sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24
mircea_popescu: tho, was it 1% or .1% ? iirc the latter neh ? someone hiked the tax 1000% last year ?!
a111: Logged on 2016-04-17 14:27 davout: jurov: can you give me a foundation address? foundation will be owed .1337 btc after the bitbet receivership is done
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and/or wrap cardanos in them. << more or less was the original plan yeh. but don't be shy, give to friends.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron lmao don't tell me, the self-elected defender of public interest split with some spare change.
mircea_popescu: how are they going to make it even shittier ?
mircea_popescu: it'd seem to my naive, unworldly eye that there's nothing below that ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, should anyone care to see what a "full license" looks in the windows/www world, here you go : https://www.cryengine.com/get-cryengine/full-license
asciilifeform: i read some of the available material ( mircea_popescu must've posted it ?) but all i saw were btc-fiatola dealz
a111: Logged on 2016-04-16 00:50 shinohai: I'll probably rerate when he stops drinking the Pb Waterz of Detroit.
mircea_popescu: PeterL> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1452858 << The Pb waters are in Flint, 60 miles north of Detroit, and I live in neither, I live another 60 miles north of that << distance is not the relevant criteria. height is. are you upstream or downstream lol
asciilifeform: and certainly every orcish pesthole where they ever burned a gestapo archive with stoolie idents, knows.
asciilifeform: 'oops we rm -rf / 'd the capital allocationz. all mine now'
asciilifeform: i have actually nfi, but at the time i could not help but wonder how much of the jpmization of american bankz was engineered via precisely that kind of 'physical jubilee'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read this http://trilema.com/2009/sfarsitul-lumii and it reminded me of the other, more recent trilema article re: the drowned nyc vault with the trillion in paperz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: davout: pgpgram post addr, i will get to a post in the week
a111: Logged on 2016-04-17 14:26 davout: asciilifeform: you should send me a couple if you're going to the post office anyway for danielpbarron
davout: jurov: can you give me a foundation address? foundation will be owed .1337 btc after the bitbet receivership is done
davout: asciilifeform: you should send me a couple if you're going to the post office anyway for danielpbarron
a111: Logged on 2016-04-17 14:06 danielpbarron: asciilifeform, gimme a quote on a small box of them, like a dozen or so
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453196 << i will weigh them next chance i get and report back
asciilifeform: i still have even a few from the original crate!
asciilifeform: and/or wrap cardanos in them.
asciilifeform: presently i intend to pass them out at next trilema-conf, whenever that is.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i cannot answer for nubs. but afaik i have all of the remaining shirts here, and very little use for them currently.
PeterL: danielpbarron: were any of your trades at prices different from the current exchange price?
PeterL: is trading over -otc really comparable to trading over an exchange? seems like the exchange is much more usefull for generating a spot price?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453171 << you can have however many i have here or any subset for the cost of shipping - and i think i now have all of the remaining ones.
asciilifeform did try to use otc on numerous occasions, never once made the desired deal. but - must note - was trying to purchase rarities.
asciilifeform: but there is (nor ever likely to be) a fiatola-btc exchange in wot
asciilifeform: funny how folks remain interested, somehow, in this number, though it comes from the heathens.
PeterL: might be becasue of capitalization? I think he said there were issues with that
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: shinohai: I'll probably rerate when he stops drinking the Pb Waterz of Detroit.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1452858 << The Pb waters are in Flint, 60 miles north of Detroit, and I live in neither, I live another 60 miles north of that
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing we'll see the end of it soon enough at this rate.
mircea_popescu: sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24
hanbot looks forward to seeing what BingoBoingo gets cooking once he's fully inoculated himself against the terrors of the flesh.
BingoBoingo: I dunno. His campaign is going through the phase Trump's was September-January now. "Left" didn't start vilifying him soon enough.
mircea_popescu: aaand for history afficionados : mp in 2009, "the end of the world". http://trilema.com/2009/sfarsitul-lumii/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: ;;later tell dooglus thanks for the OpenBazaar lulz
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://www.page2images.com/ actually turns https://archive.is/DcVrY into a (25kb long) image ; as opposed to all the other website capture www turdatrons out there, that uniformly die, more or less silently.
shinohai: props on the title
davout: mircea_popescu: there's two hex chars per byte, so it's two times less
davout: trinque: also i think the new blog posts didn't make it to the chan due to the bot not being voiced
davout: so what's the canonical way to deed?
trinque: next week I'll kill deedbot-, gotta make the rest of the process eat from postgresql instead of sqlite
davout: yeah, i see the previous ones as well on deedbot.org
trinque: davout: yeah, it's in the queue
trinque: pretty sure that took, but it was not voiced at the time
trinque: other one still.
asciilifeform: and where exactly was the derp's 'technical ability' ?
asciilifeform: i thought the debian hanging thing was old nyooz..?
mircea_popescu: henceforth i'll be referring to the poisonous delusion that there is or could be some kind of separation between technical ability and political standing as science. as in #bitcoin-asscience.
mircea_popescu: fucking army of jwz over there, "just wanted to". debian comes last after sun and fucking sales force ?
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, pity the white anglotard is inept and ineffectual. "hello i'm ian murdock and i work at docker. i'm going to maybe do something against the police. on twitter. it'll all be unsubstantial and i'll whine about suicide."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: it gave up the ghost long ago.
asciilifeform: (they typically like to imagine that the thing is salvaged from a sunken sub, while in actuality the damn things are sold by the pallet-load surplus since '91 or so)
mircea_popescu: you took a vacation there is it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu will prolly l0l over the ship invader chick
asciilifeform: (not coincidentally, manhattan-level real estate bubble there)
asciilifeform: interesting town - scarcely ANY fast food crud, locals greet you on the street, look HUMAN, etc.
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
a111: Logged on 2016-04-16 06:23 gabriel_laddel: They don't have to be related to molecular dynamics simulations, though that is why I'm asking...
a111: Logged on 2016-04-16 06:20 gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-12-2014#943016 << asciilifeform: could you please name some specific algorithms that fixing the von n. bottleneck (fast shared memory) would speed up to a great degree? Specifc well known models would also suffice for my purposes...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1453034 << walk the l0gz and read re muller gate / async cpu. and no we don't have well-developed algos ~specifically~ for these, because they don't exist yet.
gribble: Error: That's all, there is no more.
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
gabriel_laddel: They don't have to be related to molecular dynamics simulations, though that is why I'm asking...
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-12-2014#943016 << asciilifeform: could you please name some specific algorithms that fixing the von n. bottleneck (fast shared memory) would speed up to a great degree? Specifc well known models would also suffice for my purposes...
BingoBoingo: Seriously, but the people on /r/loseit insist that of their 400 pounds of adipose tissue only 20-50 are actually fat
mircea_popescu: yep, i am certain it is exactly the right thing bwahahaha
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 23:59 BingoBoingo: Huh, losing the BitBet auction seems to have hit pete pretty hard.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451300 << not quite sure about that reading. it woulda been a neat opportunity, but to be fair to znort she (pretty sure 'she) will do the property more justice than i probably could've
mircea_popescu: anyway. very much captures the essence of mahala [ie, orc quarters in ro town]
asciilifeform: incidentally anyone who likes the mega-s0ng will find all he can eat in ru 'радио шансон', devoted to subj.