asciilifeform: (you couldn't pay me to use a standard american shower head, the kind with no hose)
mircea_popescu: electric stoves are ok ; but they better be gas-stove standard, not a lulzy teapot warmer + microwave.
mircea_popescu: just saying, by now they're doing EVERYTHING wrong.
asciilifeform: we did the lulzvoltage thread
mircea_popescu: also wtf is with the lulzvoltage ; and with the poorly provisioned water and often inexitent gas pipes. etc.
mircea_popescu: but these days... wtf is with the paper walls, and the attendant fire sprinklers and fire drills and whatnot ? you couldn't pay me to live in a place with firesprinklers.
mircea_popescu: actually most of the stuff ustartds do these days is insufferable. used to be that if you wanted proper floor spacing and decent sized fridges you had to go to the us. which is how people ended up in california.
asciilifeform: it is glued to the floor
asciilifeform: another detail, since i lack photo, of what makes these dwellings stomach-churning, is the american custom of 'wall to wall carpet'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but nobody does it for rentals that will be promptly shat in again by the usual clientele << rent control ruins real estate huh.
mircea_popescu: apparently this is a permanent item, usg-born orcs forcibly integrated by usg, revert to the tribal arrangements that are adequate to their needs and capacities.
mircea_popescu: there's stories in the us proletcult folklore about the regime deciding to socially integrate gypsies, ending up with indoor fireplace fed from what used to be the parquet...
asciilifeform: but nobody does it for rentals that will be promptly shat in again by the usual clientele.
asciilifeform: that incidentally was the type of structure i was looking at
mircea_popescu: too many detached family houses on two levels waiting for the treatment.
mircea_popescu: but, as with all things, nobody's going to bother putting in the effort for a shitty apt.
mircea_popescu: even that, yes. this is a whole profession, buying property managed into the dirt by idiots and making it shine. pays pretty well, too, most hands-on types end up doing that.
asciilifeform: recall, they also all have forced air ducts
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> the mold in the toilet is there to stay, until the place is bulldozed. << nah, copper sulphate will wipe it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but since they were not american boiz you prolly didnt have to irradiate the place to sterilize after
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one place i rented here contained ~6 local derps at the time ; now inhabited by two.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, i only rarely visit such places, because - while i can outbid 4 or 5 of the wretches - i cannot outbid 10, and that is closer to the typical number
asciilifeform: the kitchen will always have its unique smell.
asciilifeform: these are classical usaschwitz houses with hollow wooden walls.
asciilifeform: usually there are phriends/fucktoys/family/etc
asciilifeform: i say 'paying' because it is quite rare for such a house to have only the paying ones
asciilifeform: i will add one detail that mircea_popescu may find interesting. amidst the piles of rubbish from floor to ceiling, the black mold in the single solitary toilet, carpet of stinking laundry, etc. there was a, i shit thee not, ~2metre tv in every room.
asciilifeform: no gurlz there.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-18 14:25 mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, you want to give people too poor to litigate, too stupid / desocialized to talk to the landlord and too scared to act the option "you can either pay 100 to the landlord as deposit or 300 to me and unlike the landlord I PROMISE to give it back (maybe), except im not anywhere near you and you can't burn my house down" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'rentalstarter' thing ?
mircea_popescu: there's also a large one discussing with some guy his idea of bootstrapping on a shoestring a landlord governing body, because he's a 20yo brogrammer and that's how governance works in his mind.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-07 23:34 mircea_popescu: and if you want actual numbers, i just got a coupla girlies an apt. the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so. the monthly rent is 750. the first month, the washing machine went, and the owner replaced it. the next month, ac went (brother was that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.
asciilifeform: in fact the ssh pile of shit is every bit as malodorous as ssl.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the keys are only used in the authentication. so what gets said afterwards is 'promise', not 'protocol'
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 15:12 mircea_popescu: we had this in the log in detail.
asciilifeform: what does having your pub in the box do ?
ben_vulpes: it's trivially swapped out once in the machine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if they give you keypair they can sign imaginary connection sessions from you. if not, not.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't see how aws could be made worse than it is by ~them giving you keypair~
mircea_popescu: no i mean, other than ssh keys
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what do they normally use ?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, amazon has buried the ingestion point for ssh pubkeys in a truly obscure corner of their systems
mircea_popescu: to bobbeck, to attach a subservient aparatchick to the sort of entreprise lords might have either heard of or outright respect, so as to puppet it along the nazi cause.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally bobbeck sounds like exactly the right word for it.
mircea_popescu: something about the old chap being too "out of touch" for "day to day" decisionmaking
asciilifeform: yah quite likely the dealings were with his bob beck.
mircea_popescu: so how did the quote go...
mircea_popescu: he's old and rather senile by now.
asciilifeform: buf was prolly told, one way or another, 'you will invest. if you do, we will print 2x and you can have that, so long as you don't buy turkeys. if you do not, there will be problems' etc.
mircea_popescu: i subscribe to "the end is nigh" theory, the usg dept of berkshire convened the rich kids for a visit over with obama and they all agreed to donate moar money to the nazi party.
mircea_popescu: jurov holy shit, yahoo, the mother of all worthless "internet companies". at least activesoft has or maybe had some competent garbagemongers.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, this means that low-volume shops cannot serve good coffee from an airpot <<< girl had one of those filter drip things all her life. the unit she had broke, over weekend, and i taught girl to make turkish boiled coffee. then today "did you want to replace your drip thing ?" "umm... nah".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> straight bezzle play. << the world over, this.
asciilifeform: phf: yeah, the former is what i do now
phf: generally i suspect you'll have better luck with renting from owners, rather than mgmt companies, since later can allow for dead souls
phf: asciilifeform: hmm, 1,6 quote is from my massage therapist, who's got two places for rent in that block
asciilifeform: soooo usg finally made the old man 'offer he couldn't refuse'.
jurov: http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/16/investing/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-apple/index.html lol and they are interested in yahoo, too?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: there's nothing wrong with a well-used airpot in theory, but it does require dumping the remains every ~10 minutes for a fresh pot. yes, this means that low-volume shops cannot serve good coffee from an airpot, but since when has that stopped anyone.
jurov: "Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Takes $1 Billion Position in Apple" lol the end is nigh!
asciilifeform: from the pov of the bezzle artists, empties are just as useful as filled units, they help to prop up price.
asciilifeform: just about everywhere i go, i see old buildings being bulldozed to make room for condos, built of matchsticks and cardboard, where ~80% of the units stay vacant for years after the thing opens
phf: i was trying to buy one of the larger buildings to renovate for company's office, they wouldn't sell. i'm sure they can make bank on condos
phf: 1,6k is for a standalone, i'm sure rowhouses are cheaper. they have a few standalones for sale, dc- "cheap" 600k or so
phf: man, i go there for massage, and it makes me heart ache, all those beautiful ruins, "modernized"
phf: they have standalones
phf: asciilifeform: there are some nice whole house rentals next to walter reed research institute in silver spring. they converted "national park seminary" to condos, can find whole house for 1,6k or so
mircea_popescu: it signifies you shouldn't be at the north pole.
mircea_popescu: the fact that you can't find a decent cofee house at north pole does not signify you should give up the cappuccino habit.
asciilifeform: well the interesting bit in this and previous threads is that 'i want to rent a house' is almost 'i want to rent reactor' in usa.
mircea_popescu: "women may not hold money" doesn't mean something about women. it means something about money, ie, capital is to be deployed in business not in the household.
asciilifeform: the derps are getting raped on interest
mircea_popescu: we had this in the log in detail.
mircea_popescu: hm ? renting house is exactly the same, lower cost to carry.
mircea_popescu: even fucking GE sold its own fucking machinery to GF to lease it from them
mircea_popescu: who the fuck BUYS oceanfront property for instance. other than a hedge fund / the miami mahjongg club
mircea_popescu: studends are, at least in most of the world, the people who value their cunt closest to its true value.
mircea_popescu: which is the point of interest.
mircea_popescu: i dunno of any country where the students don't THINK ustardians live like in "friends".
mircea_popescu: i want the datapoint for my own lulz.
mircea_popescu: landlord can't show the house, his job to fix that. if he can show the house, you're taking pix.
mircea_popescu: hey, that's their problem. you're there on business, gotta have the pics to make a call.
asciilifeform: well i walked into this one with the contents still alive...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the kind for rent
asciilifeform: and entirely unusable, even were it to be cleaned with a flamethrower - as usual, the owner divided up the normal rooms into tiny garrets for students
asciilifeform: the sheer filth
asciilifeform: lel i went to see another one of those houses
mircea_popescu: and the (otherwise spurious) concept of "a chan" reduces to "a list of specified broadcast recipients".
mircea_popescu: now something like a111 would run on an "observer" node, which is to say with the rule that it doesn't publish/pass lines not reported by the putative author. because those constitute...gossip.
mircea_popescu: and there's sure as fuck no way for u4 to prove to u* that u2 insulted u1's mom, or didn't.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile u4 has absolutely nfi wtf went down there, u2 may be an asshole or fucking around or w/e.
mircea_popescu: at which point u1 can verify that HE didn't get the A5 or the A9. And he couldn't care less that it's a "network problem" or intentional withholding, much like MPEx doesn't gas what proxies do or don't do on the way.
mircea_popescu: whereas in the relationship u3-u2 G is "Hello u2" and A1(G) is "Hi!" and B1(A1(G)) is "How goes ?" and C1(B1(A1(G)))) is
mircea_popescu: and in the relationship u1-u2 G is "Hai u2 howru" and then A1(G) is "fine ty.", and A5(G) is "urmom's a ho!" and A9(G) is "lol j/k",
mircea_popescu: similarily, the ACTUAL order of message, and the presence or absence of "j/k" messages in there can a) never be established beyond reasonable doubt and b) can only be usefully guessed by people. which is to say, well connected, intelligent nodes.
mircea_popescu: as a side-effect, the ability to extract political time out of this arrangement reduces to being well connected to well connected nodes that are connected to well connected nodes etc.
mircea_popescu: and if in THAT conversation it uses C(B1(A1)) to transmit {A(G1) ; A(G3) ; B(A3(G3)) ; B(A8(G1)) ; B(A5(G3))} then that's that.
mircea_popescu: in any case, however the list may be sorted by the peer, ITS peers get the list as it has it at that point.
mircea_popescu: this, i believe, should be a setting exposed to the user. wherever the fuck he wants it to be sorted.
mircea_popescu: if at this point a B(A8(G1)) should show up, it should be sorted somewhere in the list. but where ?
mircea_popescu: once B(A3(G3)) shows up, it goes obviously before B(A5(G3)), so the list is now {A(G1) ; A(G3) ; B(A3(G3)) ; B(A5(G3))}
mircea_popescu: message A (G3) shows up, if no A(G1) or A(G2) is present, it goes in first. if A(G1) shows up later, it goes before A(G3). which means the list gets reordered.
mircea_popescu: so : the genesis message, ie, the first communication between a pair (gossipd is a pairwise comms mechanism) includes 10 keys.
mircea_popescu: actually, let me go into detail, why the hell not. ("because derps stalk the logs for examples of how x doesn't understand y" "and ?" "myeah.")
phf: asciilifeform: ircv3 supports backdating (as well as "batch" message spool). i've hacked together backdating for erc, since znc supports it for spooling missed messages, but clients like irssi support it out of the box
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like tree-based rather than linear scheme
mircea_popescu: if later i get a message with key 1, i put it before the 3rd key one.
mircea_popescu: then if i get a message with 3rd key and none with 1 or 2, i put it first
mircea_popescu: message contains 10 keys. rule is that you use the lowest.
mircea_popescu: note that there's no hard limit here. suppose, and again, this is just a blackboard mock-up, not a technical implementation :
mircea_popescu: well so then.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather know someone can deny my packet.
mircea_popescu: anyway. messages should be ordered by protocol, through the fact you can't decrypt the latter without the former.
asciilifeform: that is theoretically fixable via plugin (znc)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hot damn, your idea of the irc protocol as implemented'd better not require an irc client the size of an os!
mircea_popescu: lol. i thought python had guis out the ying-yang
asciilifeform: because i am not writing motherfucking guis.
mircea_popescu: one of these days i should get a client that's not retarded enough to split urls.
mircea_popescu: can't believe how much hanbot 's shirt bothered teh free & teh brave interneteer community.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't ever speak to the PRINCIPLE of the cellar, however. it's always a discussion of the circumstances of the house.
mircea_popescu: yet some general considerations are possible. like, if the house's in a swamp, safe bet it has none. stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466633 << there's nothing wrong with this "argumentum ad meta" per se. it's like two people, call them vincent and jules, riding down the street, and discussing whether houses they pass have or haven't a cellar. in principle, any house may or may not have one, and in principle one may be larger than an airport lot or large enough for http://65.media.tumblr.com/85c5637a36c690fa13df1d1f6042a96
davout: this guy has it: "Just start a new one. Call yourselves "the official foundation", register a domain and go."
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BingoBoingo: or there's commercial off the shelf aerosol foams that do the same thing, but that's basically the formula. Or do left coasters just let the ground wasps be?
mircea_popescu: best party they ever had huh
BingoBoingo: Anyways once you find their holes pour a bit of gasoline down there and then plug the hole with dirt.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Errored out on loading, but basically they closed the DAOscam bet early with a refund.
mircea_popescu: these "forensic experts" identifying "the wallet addresses used by the hackers" are such experts indeed.
mircea_popescu: and in other funs, http://67.media.tumblr.com/0b7e4f815bc4a7e80d0ba6595bbd208a/tumblr_mwncsxcdli1smo4l7o1_400.gif
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: (somewhere deep in the logz...)
asciilifeform: was BingoBoingo into this subj yet when we did the crematorium thread ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: not that the idea is without merit, or technologically uninteresting. but the move is politically inexpedient.
asciilifeform: twatter will close the acct for 'abuse' and work - wasted.
mircea_popescu: imo going the wrong way.
mod6: was thinking it'd be neat to cross-ref the email to some live twitter acct and tag 'em
mod6: i wanna write a snarffer for this http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss that tweets these things out
mod6: im ciked that phuctor is crushing keys while i sleep, ride the train, eat a sandwich
mod6: anyone outside can get their vpatch "sponsored" after review & needsRebase returns false
mod6: <+shinohai> just as a backup at least cuz i love t so much << ok no worries then, just wanna ensure we're not duplicating work and what not.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:43 asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466784 << not that they've not earned it, but as far as i'm concerned tmsr is here to take a bite out of that market.
mod6: yeah, bunch of stuff there. something to work towards.
asciilifeform: but sorta duplicates the things that you gotta do on your end anyway
mod6: someone drops in their vpatch somewhere, it verifies that it doesn't have to be rebased, then spins up an instance somewhere and builds the full orchastra, and then runs tests against it.
mod6: <+shinohai> ;;later tell mod6 my tbot can now add/remove tickets, little ugly but working :D << ah, ok. are you wanting to take yours all the way?
mircea_popescu: nah, it's the expensive sort. upenn et co. the cheap sort do 10k instate-20-odd k out of state. exactly like a community/agricollege.
asciilifeform: and this is the 'cheap' sort.
mircea_popescu: few summers back, took girls to field to observe beehives and other such orchard lovely things. motherfucking bee came out of nowhere, stung me in the ear.
asciilifeform: even a motherfucking beehive.
asciilifeform: but yes, they still have a good chunk of campus devoted to animals, and fields for 'test crop', etc.
mircea_popescu: if i had parents not only idiotic enough to insist i get a degree but actually brain-manged enough to do this in the us, i'd have gone to arizona u. definitely.
asciilifeform: these are generally a snore imho.
asciilifeform: it, like all of the others, was originally an agronomic thing, eons ago. and there are still signs of it everywhere
mircea_popescu: how's the party scene
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466778 << aaahahahaha what, alf went to agricultural college ?! dudewhat, like the kursk state agricultural academy ?!
mircea_popescu: son of julio ; a sort of latino michael. they still trot him out, propped against some wood and a chick or two to sell perfume or w/e
mircea_popescu: if the ru mob had any brains, she'd have been exactly that, inna.ru
mircea_popescu: anyway, review the woman's record, she smells like a fixed up wonder from a mile away. "you can't fix the champ", sez rod steiger. she never lost... to anyone outside of the tops.
asciilifeform: it is almost at the level of postulate, that folks who have dirigible are those who don't need.
asciilifeform is too thick to see the connection
mircea_popescu: i never pursued the matter and by now i guess she'd be old. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway : as i watched the woman be in 50% of the shots and never ever win anything, it occured to me that maybe she's doing the same thing, only much better ?
mircea_popescu: ~same thing was reprised with the "leaked" "sex tapes" by proletariat whores, aka "pop singers"
asciilifeform: the kind where the rope is perhaps an arm long, and the hangman has to twist yer head just-so to snap it, using rope as a fulcrum
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, well i dunno if you know or not, but anyway - at the same time women contemplating a career in porn were more than willing to shoot a few features for the more respectable sites ~for free, because they gained popularity and a stamp of quality.
mircea_popescu: the problem there is, well... "what's the best way to jack off ?" "eh, get kournikova to do it."
asciilifeform: but only there.
asciilifeform: where folks would string themselves up, properly, with a noose, and (most of the time) live
asciilifeform: relatedly, i was reading a thing re 19th c performers, and one of the tricks lost to modernity is the sport hanging
asciilifeform: the turks did it with a bowstring though, not bare hands
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes. but i don't expect you'd do this in the bedroom, it's bad for the brain.
mircea_popescu: and i did not say strangle idly - it was the method for that situation. no idea if you've ever choked anyone but it is a) deeply sexual and b) probably the easiest way to go, outside of freezing, which they had no access to.
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mircea_popescu: i believe the key to understanding ottoman poetry (which, btw, was very accomplished) is in this tension.
asciilifeform: only because mother had an ablative coating of spare sultans
asciilifeform: eating siblings is optional, depending on how small is the box you live in.
mircea_popescu: today is the day you, a healthy, talented, good riding and accomplished poet of a man, go to your mother who is this woman that saved your life as a 3yo and shared all the ups and downs of the past two decades,
asciilifeform: one way or another.
asciilifeform: hey, everybody eats their parents
mircea_popescu: it;s a bitch not more novel and general literary exploration of that conflict has been produced by the oh-so-unignorant west. it's a fucking fascinating situation.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the woman's clintonicity was 2/3 of the reason guy even had a shot at sultanhood.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform su had a very similar problem. they all do - turks kinda had to kill all their brothers, including their mother's other sons.
mircea_popescu: (to ease the work of the research-scientists and chemists of world renown, egology is a husserlian concept.)
mircea_popescu: in general it is directly obvious to a woman that "yeah you have a nice cock, but i'm full ty". somehow the point is an egological insult to the healthy male.
mircea_popescu: and you know, in the endless "protocol vs promise" thing (such as - if you free man from labour, you will get incredible developments in culture and civilisation (promise) ; or else you'll get a horde of decayed re-monkeys (protocol) | respectively "if you include women in the political process, you'll get the fundamental if unobvious points to males, like this one, well included and represented into the public matters (promi
asciilifeform: the added lolspice is also from usg's inability to admit that, e.g., princeton admission, is ration of nomenklatura membership
mircea_popescu: hence the jew quotas.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well no shit. but the usg variant specifically lacks a mechanism for 'you are competent but sorry we're out of jam'
mircea_popescu: as phf says, "it's nice to make an effort to see the competent are accidentally included". there's no promise there, nor can be. the only promise is that the shitheads won't long survive.
mircea_popescu: the notion that meritocracy means "EVERY meritous individual" gets a place is buluceala out and out, and has nothing to do with meritocracy. such a socialist rewriting of the concept is an insult to humanity in the first place ; but to sit and wonder why the cardboard cut "in the shape of a car" and with car written on it doesn't take you places... c;mon.
mircea_popescu: mply "it's undemocratic and therefore bad" or "it's unrepresentative and therefore evil". Reality doesn't work that way."
mircea_popescu: "The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not incompetent. Whether in anyone's estimation others not named are just as or even more competent is immaterial : arbitrariety is not the problem, incompetence is. The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not particularly fixed, at least in the sense of it being extensible (in fact the list was 25 names long earlier). Therefore, objections on this line will have to be a lot more refined than si
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:37 asciilifeform: the basic unsolvable boojum here is that 'meritocracy' is ultimately a form of buluceala.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466772 << no bojum, basic or otherwise. the problem is long solved and the solution well known. i even published it, but you overlooked.
mircea_popescu: and then it blows up.
mircea_popescu: this view may even be correct ; but then their inability to maintain abundant, loyal whores is very striking. it's such an obvious point of failure, after all. but hey, not that i don't understand them - the whore will kneel lovingly, but not before every idiot. and being a self-indulgent idiot is so much... easier... and nicer... and pushing yourself so... hmm... is it even compatible with the dignity of warrior ? ain't that
mircea_popescu: in their view, strangely mirrored by various other failed warrior castes, such as the manchuku or the usg, translation is a whore's job.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466771 << it's more complicated. turks believed that it is below the dignity of a warrior (you have to remember - for a stretch about a degree of magnitude longer than "modernity", being the guy who beat up the cows, bipedal or otherwise, and took their shit was the only respectable line of work for a healthy male ; starting with the romans) to learn languages.
phf: but seeing the general freak out that happens, i think that i'd rather it was self healing, and a message or two was lost :p
mircea_popescu: phf i agree to the concept.
phf: i personally prefer logs to be accidentally realtime, but with stronger correctness guarantees, so it's down for a bit, but there's no message loss. otherwise we have a new jersey solution of "check that a111 is in chan before you say things that you don't want lost"
mircea_popescu: w actually did!) would have more or less brought back the burning stake.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 14:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: similar situation with 'jew quota' in su. 'officially' it never existed. in practice, any serious institute where the management did ~not~ quietly implement one, would rapidly turn ~80% jew and the brass would have to confront party official asking 'why are you running a synagogue here'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466767 << and if brass had unmitigated audacity to answer "because the jews educate their women to be sluts, which results in the boys being motivated to think, which means one of them can eat ten of your evanghelical shitheaded sons for breakfast. fix your fucking religion, you're lagging behind the fucking irish, even the negro reinterpretation thereof is more socially productive" (as a fe
mircea_popescu: very good. see that this is a very iffy point of failure, in the sense that the chances to end up an enemy of the people inadvertently are possibly best. seeing the logs incorrect gets ~everyone's defcon level up a notch or two
phf: on the bright side it looks like i finally have time to work on some code improvements
mircea_popescu: but anyway, looking forward to more "{Security researchers|IT specialists|Computer experts} with {University of Derp in Derpistan|USG.RedHat.Whatever|The HTTPS Internet} published {Literotica|Fetlife|OkCupid|Ask.fm|Phuctor|whatever} {database|userlist|secret excel codebase} publicly! We don't have a copy because we don't believe in things, we prefer names."
mircea_popescu: but perhaps if you're esl, "made public" means "made privately available to some people who aren't us" or something. god knows everything else means something else, so what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: do you know what the most read file for the month is, on trilema ? http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lit.txt linked from http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-15#1466759 << no they had published their research in 2005, it's just a) nobody saw it and b) it's STILL not fucking published omfg.
asciilifeform: they ~will~ have one. it is, to use mircea_popescutronic terminology, simply a question of how thick the spiked club they will be raped with until submitting.
asciilifeform: so knowing all of this, it is quite obvious, the americans do not want a 90%-chinese nomenklatura 20yrs from now.
asciilifeform: these issue faux 'master degree' in fields like 'homeland security.'
asciilifeform: the third type, included here for completeness, is 'spam school', a straight chumpatron perpetrated largely on uppity proles. formerly cornered by places like 'strayer' but now the big boiz are expanding into the market.
asciilifeform: these are not really schools in the ordinary sense. yes, you can take classes, but it is nearly impossible to flunk, and really admission to, e.g., yale, is equiv. of nomenklatura membership.