asciilifeform: in '40s the separation machine was ruinously inefficient.
mircea_popescu: wasn't in the 40s either, more of a "holy shit engineering feat" than a "omaigerd its incomprehensible arcana"
asciilifeform: i'd idly like to know if anyone is using the laser separator.
asciilifeform: and that's just the 1 who advertised his name.
mircea_popescu: now, not to say that current chinese capacities in rocketry and so on aren't mostly chinese. they are ; with a little dab of helping from anyone available to help for a reasonable fee, the swiss, romanians, jews, whoever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: sure, and according to every divorced woman the house was fair trade for the nagging.
mircea_popescu: india i have nfi, possibly brits gave them.
asciilifeform: and to india, they also gave ?!
mircea_popescu: at whatever point they had that fallout with moscow.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they had norking wukes ~in the sense the brits do : the americans gave them some.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473652 << it won't be so, for the same exact reason the "true standard" of "original vellum roll with chain of custody" didn't make it as a "golden standard" past 500ad.
asciilifeform: they had working nukes when i was a boy.
mircea_popescu: used to be, you know, back in the 80s, china was roughly speaking a very large vietnam.
asciilifeform: as a boy i always imagined that chinese parade includes blokes carrying little stools from which they will - together, and seismically calamitously - jump !
mircea_popescu: so they don't end up embarassed. like, 1 of 3 regiments goes, sorta thing
mircea_popescu: nope. they actually (from what i hear) make pools and pick which to run
asciilifeform: they think this is it!
asciilifeform: the americans, so sad, have nfi what a real parade is!
mircea_popescu: were the nukes pointy at least ?
shinohai: Well there's tits in it
asciilifeform: well obviously not in the 'every bloke with cannon a pythagoras' sense.
asciilifeform: if you can't pgp you are a beast of the field.
asciilifeform: it makes a difference precisely where the rifle does.
asciilifeform: know in the rifle sense.
mircea_popescu: i am not convinced there's twenty people alive who know what a number is altogether, prime or not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a defensible position, but so is the fact that folks who don't know what a prime number is are beasts of the field.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not going to import as much as a nail's dirt worth of old crap, even for all the vases in the world, be they made of glass bead or kidney stone.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 23:44 mircea_popescu: it was whether they'll live or die on the corpse of rome's empire. strictly that. and in my hands locklin will starve.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473835 << i'ma have to reread the original mircea_popescu-vs-locklin thing aren't i.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 23:43 mircea_popescu: the test for the nascent burgunds / germans / whatever the fyck you'd call them wasn't whether "they could build roman baths", either.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473834 << eh hey i get it, sure, mircea_popescu is odoacer, and doesn't give half a rat's arse if anybody ever builds another aqueduct or blows a glass vase, esp not if it's a stinking dickless city-dwellin' pedo, etc.
mircea_popescu: "In Texas and a number of other states, its legal to shoot a dog if someone is reasonably afraid of it." << everywhgere sane, pretty much. wtf.
mircea_popescu: above any obama or any other nigger ; above any "4th column" idiot kids imagining themselves sikrit agents.
mircea_popescu: fuck whatever the fuck derp "can't" (ie, doesn't, DELIBERATELY, want to) get in the WoT. Fuck him with ten thousand dongs borrowed from the leprosarium, he is the enemy.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:40 asciilifeform: do you know the stories told by math profs, of how up to 1980s or so they would accept unsolicited manuscripts purporting to prove a theorem, but then had to stop ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473644 << this was a miserable idea to begin with. cry me a river of small violins over how the illo tempore "good socialism" of "every man had a wife" is some sort of something i should care about.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:40 asciilifeform: they result in a thickening of the mental carapace of thinking people
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473642 << this is not merely false, it is backwards to reality. a lot of cocks do not result in a "loose" pussy ; they result in a well musculated, pleasurable fuckhole. similarly so, the only thing that results in thick "mental carpaces" are "healthy" ie deratized situations.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:32 diana_coman: dunno, maybe it all even started with the printing press then along those lines
mircea_popescu: perhaps the most amusing example for our purposes here being the late forgery known as "donatio constantini")
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473619 << i think you have a very naive view on the matter driven perhaps by the narrow point of the samizdat experience. this was never the case, to this date most apocrypha problems are not in fact solved.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the renaissance happened EXACTLY because of the blog-like organisation of the textual community of the time, and it was for the record largely an oral process ; its notation rather very similar with the btcbase.org service.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:29 asciilifeform: diana_coman: the medium is intrinsically unfriendly on account of every-derp-can-modify.
mircea_popescu: it was whether they'll live or die on the corpse of rome's empire. strictly that. and in my hands locklin will starve.
mircea_popescu: the test for the nascent burgunds / germans / whatever the fyck you'd call them wasn't whether "they could build roman baths", either.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:23 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473575 << let's try a gedankenexperiment. take a bunch of folks who grew up on books, and another set who grew up on blogs (let's say, the spiffiest blogs!) -- and see which set can solve a set of differential equations, build a cement mixer, a house that stands up, write gcd, whatever torture test you prefer.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473589 << no, that's not the test, that's masturbation. the real life test is, take some kids who grew up on blogs ; and some derps who grew up on books, and see who manage to thoroughly fuck up their interactions with mp. that's the fucking test, the test of life, not the test of school-alike.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 14:56 asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu in the original 'books are dead' you have '...tot asa cum n-ati stiut niciodata greaca veche...' but we know you ~do~ greaca veche !
mircea_popescu: cue mp saying there's no bitcoin price signal i guess.
mircea_popescu: so the various usg exchanges doing fuckall volume are STILL clinging on to their delusional notions of what the price is, days later.
mircea_popescu: if anyone feels like trolling the shit out of lolcows in languages they don't even understand, tweet https://archive.is/X5oos#selection-1453.1-1453.24 to @lorenalupu and watch the fireworks :D
mircea_popescu: and in other web lulz, http://www.turkmenpress.com/ << used to be the website of the state turkmen press agency
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: now there are 2.
ben_vulpes: leastaways one ran there once.
asciilifeform: i do have the keys to a place with a rack, but it has own problems (no cooling in the summer on weekends and roof has been known to leak...)
asciilifeform: *for the
asciilifeform: paying largely from the human-free space ~around~ it.
asciilifeform: i haven't the provisions for cooling or noise isolation.
mircea_popescu: (and yes i do think you people are ~idiots for keeping chattels there, exactly for the reasons and exactly to the degree i think jews moving around berlin in the 30s with golden whatevers on their person, such as teeth, idiots.)
asciilifeform: at this point the only thing that can be asked is for the thing to be more often up than down...
asciilifeform: i don't expect to find a massively improved commercial server anywhere, for the reasons mircea_popescu described.
phf: it seems the way it's going it's equally "safe" to host box in basement now, and only upload static pages of results to web
mircea_popescu: even more alternatively, if you're just about ready to move out of nato and place a rack in your own basement i'm definitely just about ready to ship you the server in question. have been for a while nao.
asciilifeform: but apparently the monkeys need it, for some reason, to be off.
mircea_popescu: so then... call it "modern computing" and let it be.
asciilifeform: it is the principle of the matter, i have nfi who did what to the disk while it was off.
mircea_popescu: but not before, because honestly in between a) shrug and make the engineers rewrite the software to be windows proof and b) turn off the service for another year because the world is not ready yet, even an entry level manager would know enough to pick a every time.
mircea_popescu: anyway - since i recall you itching to do it throughout the YEAR LONG outage, which in my best business judgement is not fucking acceptable, suppose you find a server, and once (and only once) you're satisfied it entirely meets your specs we move over ?
asciilifeform: but with phuctor we have the sad of both worlds, expensive AND porous.
mircea_popescu: but the very idea!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can retract the spikes, no one was proling at you.
mircea_popescu: and whoever the fuck cuts your neck did not do so because his blacksmith had better steel.
asciilifeform: (not saying the no-secrets-save-for-sshkey phuctor box is comparable, but simply for argument)
mircea_popescu: mpex is written by people who, unlike you, live in the world as it is. consequently, it doth not care. what you see is not ENVIRONMENT.
mircea_popescu: there exists no such thing as a length of rope made by the fiat world that is genuinely what it claims to be.
asciilifeform: it would be great if there existed isp worth using.
mircea_popescu: ah. lol. so i guess i write to host warning that if this happens again they lose the contract,
asciilifeform: phf: that's what, a litre/second ?! what was on the boat, jet engine ?
asciilifeform: my neighbour owns a boat that, i think, has not felt the sea water in decades.
asciilifeform: at any rate, not all cargo cults are the same! in an american home, you are much more likely to find barbells nobody lifts, elaborate exercise machinery that is rusted solid, etc.
asciilifeform: but if you open, it is on loathesome toilet-like paper
asciilifeform: lulzily, in usa they print special editions of 'classics' for this use
asciilifeform: and i imagine it must suck to be the owner of a real airplane landed on cargo cult island, it will promptly be ripped apart for parts to decorate straw planes the moment you look away
asciilifeform: phf: you reminded me of sov legend of some bloke who bought up a buncha 'deficit' bookz, e.g., complete dumas, and put an iron railroad bolt through the stack and then put on shelf, so guests wouldn't try to borrow'em
asciilifeform: quite analogous to 'linear Alps', for those who've used these.
asciilifeform: but the miserably switches, not so much.
asciilifeform: the lack of arrow keys, at least, could be seen from photo
asciilifeform: lulzily, i was quite disappointed with the switches.
phf: the people who bought up all the symbolics keyboards to connect to their gaming pcs, because "dude retro switch action"
asciilifeform: not so much even against the copyrasts, thought they are pestilential like mosquitoes in some parts of the world,
asciilifeform: and yes, the ~cultural institutions~ that produced my library, are dead as dodo.
asciilifeform: phf: in no sense different from the situation on the ground in, say, 1200s cambridge.
phf: pre-80s hard bounds as a source of knowledge is a here and now sort of source, same way as pre-2005 amds, etc. not only is it a limited source, it is also unstable. a year from now, we're going to see all the fullstack developers switching to "classics library", and buying up last-known-prints on ebay for +++ bezzle dollars on ebay
phf: there will be no great library of tmsr, but on the other hand no accumulation and exchange of amulets and fetishes of knowledge, because the last can be subverted in all kinds of ways we've seen already.
phf: the way i understood that old books thread is that there's no focus on building libraries, i.e. old books as an accumulation of artifacts, but where you get your own knowledge is up to you. so if ascii is keeping a collection of scanz and gives me a copy, it's both purely between us and also about ~my~ education as a cause of ascii's action
asciilifeform: (i will not dignify american school, where i went, with word 'education'. it is more of a kind of prison. where, yes, you can perhaps find the time to read books. but it is not why you are in the prison)
asciilifeform: i.e. what my brother went to.
asciilifeform: relatedly, and hilariously, in sov era, the phrase 'classical education' meant, to educated folks, the imperial ru gymnasium, per old euro spec, with latin and greek. and ~all of the great ru writers, INCLUDING sov era, had this education, were old enough. whereas TODAY 'classical education' in ru refers to sov era school !
diana_coman: I meant the *content* of the old books does not become useless all of a sudden; reading it and/or extracting it and transferring it (or not) to the new medium becomes a different occupation, much akin to reading ancient Greek basically;
asciilifeform: diana_coman: mircea_popescu and i had this wild thread where he actually pissed on the old books directly
diana_coman: asciilifeform> but this is not enough, you actually need the old books. <- this was not contested really; the fact that books are dead doesn't mean that old books are all useless all of a sudden
asciilifeform: 'Ernst & Young, the firm organising the auction, said the bitcoins had been "confiscated as proceeds of crime" but did not elaborate on the case.'
asciilifeform: 'A collection of bitcoins worth about £8m, which had been confiscated by police in Australia, will be auctioned off in June. The 24,518 bitcoins will be sold mostly in blocks of 2,000 - each with a value of about £680,000.'
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36412487 << buterin's waterfall to extinguish rising exchange rate just in time !
diana_coman: life costs quite a lot in itself and the more elaborate you make it basically, the higher the cost, of course
asciilifeform: actually these rats find nothing more appealing than a yet-un-ratted place of clean people.
diana_coman: certainly, my point was not that cleanliness is a way of exterminating rats but rather that cleanliness is a very good indicator of whether you find rats there or not, hence whether worth bothering with some output from there or not
asciilifeform: on the contrary, it is ~people~ who are finding it economically hard to do much on the net.
diana_coman: I think rats will also find it increasingly hard economically to do much on the net
asciilifeform: without them - zimbabwe.
asciilifeform: but this is not enough, you actually need the old books.
asciilifeform: which is why imho any future of the net as an intellectual citadel depends on tech for keeping rats out.
asciilifeform: their mere ~possibility~ inhibits.
asciilifeform: and if it were the year 1850 and a letter that comes in can be presumed to be from a learned gentlemen simply by virtue of being a letter,
asciilifeform: they impose a different kind of cost on trilema.
diana_coman: the gist of it being that rats basically do not *want* to comment on trilema for too long because they find it...very uncomfortable; so yes, they have full liberty to come and shit there and be slapped with a hammer in return, sure
asciilifeform: it is a means of authentication almost as good as pgp.
diana_coman: heh, there was this discussion which might perhaps be interesting to you re freedom on trilema vs censorship of comments on public forums etc
asciilifeform: and wake me up when anyone discovers a means of killing them.
asciilifeform: the rats dampen ~new~ developments.
diana_coman: so either you imply that one should use something else because of rats or otherwise no, online is perfectly good, just kill the rats
diana_coman: but you started from "online is not good" and then got onto " because rats"
asciilifeform: the true filter for quality technical literature remains ~vintage dead tree~.
asciilifeform: printing is cheap enough that the rats have excellent access to it.
asciilifeform: do you know the stories told by math profs, of how up to 1980s or so they would accept unsolicited manuscripts purporting to prove a theorem, but then had to stop ?
asciilifeform: there is also another cost imposed by sewer rats, that is not solvable by technical means
diana_coman: well, sewer rats is basically what I was calling the "mountain of idiots" and that is a generic problem, unrelated to books or writing as such
asciilifeform: diana_coman: generally the rats find it much more cost-effective to 'bring it down' by signal jamming
diana_coman: in any case, I suppose you can argue it the other way: the current cheapness of keeping a blog is not necessarily here to stay
asciilifeform: aha, smaller-scale version of the same idea
diana_coman: hm, that links to me to some authors' observation that writing digitally destroys the quality of the writing because you can modify more easily what you write, hence they'd rather use a typewriter /write in ink as it "forces" them to think it through before writing it down
asciilifeform: likewise the expense of printing/binding (and in the age of living culture it was quite expensive) was a pretty good bozo filter.
asciilifeform: a similar effect applies to the book
asciilifeform: long ago i wrote an article re the undisputably higher quality of hardware products vs software, on account of the impossibility of patching hardware
diana_coman: well, that's already going into the reason why books are dead, so in any case you accept then that yes, books certainly ARE dead and that was the original point of the article as I read it really
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am most sympathetic to precisely the 'anyone-can-print killed the book' argument.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: every derp can distribute mutilated copy. the only pill against this is wot, and it remains to be seen whether the pill even works.
diana_coman: then it's not your blog basically...
diana_coman: basically it's a statement of facts: books are dead people, so if you want all the good and pretty to survive, best move it already
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the medium is intrinsically unfriendly on account of every-derp-can-modify.
diana_coman: well, then it should better be/be brought ?
diana_coman: hm, don't know; fwiw I was (I think it's still there even) arguing against the original article in Romanian along your current lines really
diana_coman: hence content is still there, kids can still learn just as previous kids learnt
diana_coman: hm, I think the point was that *content* of books worth saving is saved through inclusion/discussion on blogs
asciilifeform: the biodiesel candidates, more numerous.
asciilifeform: the folks worth so much as two shits will be 10 years older and deader
diana_coman: it's not that books were dead 15 years ago but that they are dead now
asciilifeform: then welcome to zimbabwe.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my understanding is that this will however not be the case in 10 years or less basically
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 14:06 mircea_popescu: much in the way the "alive part" of books is now called blogs.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473575 << let's try a gedankenexperiment. take a bunch of folks who grew up on books, and another set who grew up on blogs (let's say, the spiffiest blogs!) -- and see which set can solve a set of differential equations, build a cement mixer, a house that stands up, write gcd, whatever torture test you prefer.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, that is broadly "just as *you* never knew ancient greek, don't come and tell *me* that you still read books" - with the very clear point that the author can and might read books just as they can and might read ancient Greek, but that's not to say anything about the general public who won't read one just as they can't/won't read the other
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu in the original 'books are dead' you have '...tot asa cum n-ati stiut niciodata greaca veche...' but we know you ~do~ greaca veche !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 10:58 mircea_popescu: somewhat disappointingly, if i grep the phuctored page for "ambroz" i discover the latest discovery is printed mid page. the rss page rescues the very recent - latest few items - but does nothing for the rest.
asciilifeform: thing is, books were 'alive' for small bursts through the ages. consider medieval scholars - theirs were quite as dead as mine.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not one to normate the pleasures of others. if you're happy with her, who cares she died a while ago.
mircea_popescu: shinohai maybe if the flags had more see through.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 13:51 deedbot: [Trilema] That books are dead, and had an easy death does not mean the orphan bookworms are spared their slow motion Holocaust. - http://trilema.com/2016/that-books-are-dead-and-had-an-easy-death-does-not-mean-the-orphan-bookworms-are-spared-their-slow-motion-holocaust/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473558 << i just now finished reading this and did not find the books-are-dead thing inside! i am disappoint!111
shinohai: Hey asciilifeform looks like you left Chicago before the party really got started: http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2016/05/30/22637783.html
deedbot: [Trilema] That books are dead, and had an easy death does not mean the orphan bookworms are spared their slow motion Holocaust. - http://trilema.com/2016/that-books-are-dead-and-had-an-easy-death-does-not-mean-the-orphan-bookworms-are-spared-their-slow-motion-holocaust/
mircea_popescu: "and the bag ?"
mircea_popescu: in other lolz, blondy in train, puts her samsonite up, sits down, next movement of the train the thing falls on her head.
mircea_popescu: in any case, i recall seeing in here reported the last 3 items there. and 4tyh. and 5th. can't be ~half now can it.
mircea_popescu: somewhat disappointingly, if i grep the phuctored page for "ambroz" i discover the latest discovery is printed mid page. the rss page rescues the very recent - latest few items - but does nothing for the rest.
mircea_popescu: anyway, no, the specific scam in question is that ~lists~ are copyrightable no matter their components, and these cocksuckers are trying to make LISTS of ancient / public domain / copyright freee items and then perversely claim copyright in them because "it's in our list", which is a bullshit claim but then again the us entirely runs on vapors and bullshit claims.
asciilifeform: and where the fuck is a111 ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://alexanderstreet.com/page/about-us << check out the new generation of pederasts trying to milk the "intellectual property" faucet
mircea_popescu: 2009-11-03 1kb key, seems to have been in earnest use at some point back then
deedbot: [Qntra] Cooling Pacific Has Potential To Further Injure Corn Belt's Fortunes This Season - http://qntra.net/2016/05/cooling-pacific-has-potential-to-further-injure-corn-belts-fortunes-this-season/
BingoBoingo: This entry into the record is noted
mircea_popescu: i duly enter teh matter into the permanent record.
mircea_popescu: it occurs to the harem assembled in congress that there should be such a thing as "whore's dew", and it should be an after shave.
asciilifeform: (did they use it for sound effects when stock was falling or ...?)
asciilifeform: i wonder if mircea_popescu knows what the piano was for.
mircea_popescu: you totally need to start running a blog and stop ugc-ing your productions away to the usg.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/VcBuo << highlights from my journey to the Lands That Suck Slightly Less
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> jurov: fuck flow. 100kg of copper hedgehog is the ticket. << with dildo attachments!
asciilifeform: jurov: that last bit is in the logz.
jurov: um.. and what about combining them with keyboard?
asciilifeform: look at the design of 19th c. and prior pipe organs
jurov: idk, maybe the flapping noise would be more palatable :D
asciilifeform: they aren't esp. quiet.
jurov: what about.. i don't know what is called - these accordion things ancient blacksmiths were usign to blow air?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-29 22:59 BingoBoingo: Or convince alf to leave the swamp
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-29#1473465 << dunno if you missed it BingoBoingo, but theoretically i could leave the swamp now.
asciilifeform: jurov: fuck flow. 100kg of copper hedgehog is the ticket.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the dictator is a shitty pile of forced memes, unfunny as all hell. its only distinction being that the progress is show to benefit some derpy woman whose only qualification is that she's not shavign her armpits (but she's willing to drop that), whereas the only loser is the actual competent engineer ; and that peter norton is cast as yet-another-celebrity whose only utility, value and stock in trade is being u
BingoBoingo: Or convince alf to leave the swamp
BingoBoingo: In other news, what was mircea_popescu doing last night https://stlouis.craigslist.org/mis/5610041338.html
BingoBoingo: They used to occasionally have surplus .30-06 AP, incendiary, tracer, etc. Prolly Obama's fault.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: banned in usa other than to gestapo and army
BingoBoingo: Would usually be here if they had it https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/category/ammunition/rifle/30-06-springfield.do?c=117336.117388.201430&sku_instock_b=true&sortby=priceAscend&page=all
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-29#1473431 << my 'commodore-64' was 100% hiss-free. as was mircea_popescu's spectrum clone, or my brother's bk-0010
asciilifeform: i'll eat my hat if you show me HE rounds in there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: literally that is the url. May or may not have, but gets interesting USG surplus from time to time. Gott get it when they have it before it sells out.
asciilifeform: ~everybody here shops there.
shinohai: White noise is useful for the masking of sensitive conversations!
asciilifeform: i dun think i will ever be rid of the eternal hiss.
asciilifeform: (which has terrible acoustics and is answerable for perhaps half the noise in the room)
asciilifeform: i even put a kakobreklan fan in the giant ups.
asciilifeform: and yes, them. moving air is audible. nyooz at 11.
asciilifeform: (yes, the magic cost-weight-in-plutinium kakobreklan fans)
ben_vulpes: where's the noise coming from now?
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaah finally got rid of the last spinning rust thing
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i can't quite make sense of that lafond piece. do you get what the man's trying to say ? << Don't know that it somes to anything beyond him almost getting to somewhere
a111: Logged on 2016-05-29 20:43 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, you ever read von mellenthin's study in russian soldierly psychology (and other things) ?
mircea_popescu: somehow the realisation that "proposing a subset could exist IS ALREADY PREDICATING you can fix things you can't actually fix, so you're begging the question something massive".
mircea_popescu: gotta love this inept shit, "stupid idea is broken in many ways, most of them unfixable for good reasons - we'll consider here an irrelevant subset, that could be fixed."
mircea_popescu: oh oh, right, right, the vc wunderwaffen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, you ever read von mellenthin's study in russian soldierly psychology (and other things) ?
mircea_popescu: of m4 also. not to the degree.
mircea_popescu: (though honestly it - esp the m4 - looked to me more like a hastily copied t-34 than anything)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ze germanz hated the russian tanks and despised the anglo tanks (sherman included). there IS a difference.