mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474179 << nothing could be further from teh truth. with some regularity mp has to punish multi-year supposed experts for basic training items such as "who the fuck said you may leave". the equivalent'd be a research lab where one has to explain the criteria of divisibility with 2 and 5 to the research leaders.
asciilifeform: this was iirc one of the points of disagreement in thread, i saw photo, she was plenty interesting
asciilifeform: the traditional player here is ~old~ woman tho
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:01 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i enjoy the company of adults, not children
mircea_popescu: and make no mistake about it, she'll pen diatribes to the mujahedeen about how tamara down the street got two inches more silk headdress or w/e
asciilifeform: yeah but petrocheese is a peculiarly demoocratic bait. muhammed has other bait.
asciilifeform: well somebody gotta load 'muhammed' into the register instead of 'demoocracy'
mircea_popescu: "i am here ; therefore". and which it is why it needs absolutely no reflashing either asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474162 << this is the fundamental point of womanhood ever since you know, "common sense" added "poverty laws" to the common law.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:01 asciilifeform: young chix are programmable, they would just as happily 'great is the prophet muhammad' if born elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, it's just luck, there's no rational solution out of the problem. see http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning/ for the discussion if haven't already.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 18:52 ben_vulpes: a friend of mine recently broke up with his girl of 4+ years, and i realized during conversation about his new dating adventures and the kinds of women he was encountering that i would have patience for approximately zero reeducation at this point in my life.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474137 << i can readily see that. even adjusting mentally for "he dun know the half of it!"
mircea_popescu: but today, the parents go "oh, everything, blablabla". this is not useful.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger nobody gives these kids any clear signals. their great-grandparents went "bitch, you're gonna marry the first guy with a pulse and make me two nephews!" which was maybe excessive.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 18:50 asciilifeform: for instance, i'm about to buy moar display. it will be an lcd. but if mircea_popescu buys another display, it won't be lcd, it'll be a thing where a gurl flips pixels manually.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474135 << nah, it'll be a lcd and an army of bulgarian nurses to run by the houses of everyone who thinks the opposite and flip them over the head.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 18:05 BingoBoingo: She's a transplant to the bay area failing to afford it. Likely a female to mayo transgender with asperzorsations of leaving Ohio behind.
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Giffen << James Giffen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/19/was-james-giffen-telling-the-truth/ << Was James Giffen telling the truth? | Foreign Policy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhgate << Kazakhgate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: anyway, thought asciilifeform'd appreciate the story, if not known already.
mircea_popescu: it's all in "working together" blabla.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's the doctrine, somehow, no matter how badly they get battered they can't give the shit up.
shinohai: Naturally r/btc crowd is celebrating this resurrection: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4lvwzo/gavin_andresen_recent_rise_in_ethereum_should_be/d3qj7af
asciilifeform: 'I invite capable programmers from anywhere, including China, to help any of the teams working on open source Bitcoin software, whether that is Classic or Core or Unlimited or bitcore or btcd or ckpool or p2pool or bitcoinj.'
shinohai: https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/gavin-andresen-ethereum-rise-warning-to-bitcoin <<< obvious butthurt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu socialistoid idiocy comes from lizard brain, not from b00kz. (though it can appear therein)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 10:50 mircea_popescu: "the lamp's not dead, just the mains is". mmmkay. long live the cold lamp.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474385 << mircea_popescu whole point is that ~my particular lamp~ is still glowing. (i recently bought one of them tritium lamps, it is a good analogy for this actually)
asciilifeform: this is sorta like the boojum in rsa, where generating a ~good~ key is nontrivial
asciilifeform: it is even possible that we will never see a proof of whether it exists to be found.
Framedragger: not to rain on the parade (not that i could), but isn't it possible such a thing won't ever be found? http://stackoverflow.com/a/3654889
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 11:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474087 << looky here, people depositing their "10k usd coupon" from the employer with real estate bezzletron aren't buying anything or paying anything.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 11:26 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474078 << notrly, lost interest after unknown addressed "her ceo" as "jeremy". they're obviously misrepresenting their private relationship, and i have no interest in participating in the banal scenes of fat anglo derps.
Framedragger: child the fuck down
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 10:56 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473729 << this was so common in romania (for some reason romanians were even MORE crazy book-militant than the ru), that a) there was a state-sponsored, official "books" edition/complete library (called "biblioteca pentru toti"). cheap paperbacks, fixed format made to fit preexisting standard shelving, decent antologies of reasonable titles. this was like you know, the prol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474390 << these are 'books' in the same sense that american 'house' is a house, etc.
asciilifeform read quite a few things but KEEPS AROUND only the thing worth keeping around...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 10:30 mircea_popescu: you can't find a book that's not informed by either a christian or socialist notion of theosophy. neither of these are intellectually acceptable, or even digestible. the dumb will have to be washed off books before they may be instruments of human thought again. asciilifeform does not feel this because he insists on only reading an (insignificant) fraction, math is math eh.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474379 << i never said to preserve the christian crapola or any other other astrologies.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 10:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473683 << this is a deeply idiotic measurement. what you can't find me is a nigger that's happy with his life. that's the fucking criteria.
Framedragger: yeah i know the latter, i thought there were additional reasons for preferring c-s here. ok.
asciilifeform: understand that the 'hardness' of all known (and perhaps even any possible) hashes is just as unproven as that of, e.g., aes.
asciilifeform: all we have is a) otp, trivially proven to be impenetrable, high school level exercise b) everything else, being snake oils of varying degrees of toxicity, with c-s being the least noxious known to me presently.
asciilifeform: an adult asymmetric (or symmetric, for that matter) cryptosystem would rely on a mathematical problem of PROVEN complexity class (e.g., np-complete)
asciilifeform: (and i will add that no public implementation wrote it correctly, either.)
Framedragger: that's fair. ok. i assume you don't think much of OAEP (i see it mentioned in the logz but only just)
asciilifeform: it STILL, just like all other publicly known asymmetric cryptosystems, relies on a mathematical trap door of UNPROVEN hardness.
a111: Logged on 2016-02-26 01:34 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415667 << it appears to have been the first (and to date, only other in public) system that is immune to chosen-ciphertext crapolade
asciilifeform: Framedragger: but i ought to emphasize for n00bs, cramer-shoup is merely the healthiest horse at this glue factory.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: there is a hash-free variant.
Framedragger: (their "hybrid implementation" assumes a good symmetric-key cipher..)
Framedragger: (heh they even suggest sha-1 for the hash function, though this is from an olden paper, so.)
Framedragger: though a "hash-free variant" appears to be possible, so maybe there's that; need to check.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474264 << that's nice, but doesn't the beloved cramer-shoup also use hashes? their scheme, to quote, "requires a universal one-way hash function"
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:45 asciilifeform: i never really liked the idea of a hash.
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mircea_popescu: when communism ended they gave the herd "coupons" to "privatize" the various busnesses by "subscription". the process of "subscribing" these coupons made nobody an investor.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 18:00 asciilifeform: trinque: the folks payin' $10k/mo for a 1room flat ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474087 << looky here, people depositing their "10k usd coupon" from the employer with real estate bezzletron aren't buying anything or paying anything.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474078 << notrly, lost interest after unknown addressed "her ceo" as "jeremy". they're obviously misrepresenting their private relationship, and i have no interest in participating in the banal scenes of fat anglo derps.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 05:05 ben_vulpes: so pediwikia claims that du chatelet is actually the postulator of the total energy constraint?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474053 << lmao check it out, napoleon iii pretension lives through the colonies! which are illiterate still!
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a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 03:09 BingoBoingo: In other old trilema http://trilema.com/2013/the-title-is-in-the-pudding/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473738 <<< my dear man. over one thousand gallons ?! think for a moment, the floating deathstar was burning a gallon every other second ? how did you stand the heat ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think they had actually figured out by the end of the 80s that "everything" is a bad sort of books to have.
mircea_popescu: and b) all sorts of "required" items for the you know, "upper crust" which every aparatchick aspired to parvene to. they were rather meticulous, effectual sorts of people, and well informed, and consequently if you visited (which was common) and someone asked, "so what books does he have ?" you'd answer "everything." and they'd know what you meant.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473729 << this was so common in romania (for some reason romanians were even MORE crazy book-militant than the ru), that a) there was a state-sponsored, official "books" edition/complete library (called "biblioteca pentru toti"). cheap paperbacks, fixed format made to fit preexisting standard shelving, decent antologies of reasonable titles. this was like you know, the prole version of "it's
mircea_popescu: if you knew your plane would end up on cargo cult island anywya, would you bother with anything serious ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 18:05 asciilifeform: and i imagine it must suck to be the owner of a real airplane landed on cargo cult island, it will promptly be ripped apart for parts to decorate straw planes the moment you look away
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 17:55 asciilifeform: and yes, the ~cultural institutions~ that produced my library, are dead as dodo.
mircea_popescu: western civilisation died (again) because of its shitty books (again). not in spite of them, not unrelatedly, nothing else - BECAUSE the books were bad. it's poisoned and killed us and that comes with a fucking smithing the likes of which has never been seen
mircea_popescu: the fate of humanity is to be this endless rat in an endless baited maze. we can't, even as we sit and mourn the dead muroid next, stuff own gullet with the same fucking pellets, now can we.
mircea_popescu: you can't find a book that's not informed by either a christian or socialist notion of theosophy. neither of these are intellectually acceptable, or even digestible. the dumb will have to be washed off books before they may be instruments of human thought again. asciilifeform does not feel this because he insists on only reading an (insignificant) fraction, math is math eh.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 17:49 phf: pre-80s hard bounds as a source of knowledge is a here and now sort of source, same way as pre-2005 amds, etc. not only is it a limited source, it is also unstable. a year from now, we're going to see all the fullstack developers switching to "classics library", and buying up last-known-prints on ebay for +++ bezzle dollars on ebay
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473709 << more importantly, books are fucking dumb in a structural, unyielding manner very similar to how classical antiquity was dumb in 1400 : no proper conception of theology then ; no proper conception of humanity now.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 17:45 phf: there will be no great library of tmsr, but on the other hand no accumulation and exchange of amulets and fetishes of knowledge, because the last can be subverted in all kinds of ways we've seen already.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473708 << note that renaissance happened roughly speaking in the sense that a bunch of bloggers, pico & co, who had developed both their taste and knowledge in a blogging sense strictly stumbled upon a cache of "things you call books today much in the way you'll call them blogs shorty - they were rolls though" which held their own ;
mircea_popescu: for all the "cost to us", seems teh cost to you is so far minimal eh! just point an' laugh!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:56 asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36412487 << buterin's waterfall to extinguish rising exchange rate just in time !
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473696 << and it will.... yet again.... not work.... and the egg will "not be on face"... and etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:56 diana_coman: life costs quite a lot in itself and the more elaborate you make it basically, the higher the cost, of course
mircea_popescu: that obama is going around in cheap suits and gets more crowded at dinner than your average 1916 workman is the fucking criteria.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473683 << this is a deeply idiotic measurement. what you can't find me is a nigger that's happy with his life. that's the fucking criteria.
mircea_popescu: maybe credits should be its own entry on the top bar ? minor point tho
pete_dushenski: http://www.citylab.com/commute/2016/05/paris-is-banning-cars-built-before-1997/484895/ << or why davout ~really~ left the stinky tourist traps behind.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo props for being so on your game lately. every time i've seen something remotely bitcoin-related elsewhere on the net lately, i see that qntra already had it covered. liking the terseness atm too.
pete_dushenski: fucken eh this greek yogurt is the bomb. screw all the 0% fat hippies. 11% or fuck off.
pete_dushenski: doubt he'll answer directly, but let there be no mistake that he's been intentionally directed to that little dig.
pete_dushenski: take that father time.
pete_dushenski: just when i thought i'd be working my way up in years and find myself unable to handle the rigours of hard partying, i wake up sunday morning to find that i feel bloody fantastic and sore only from having worked out the day before.
shinohai: Fast work there mod6 ... isn't even midnight yet >.<
shinohai: Judging from the flurry of messages I'm getting I think I triggered someone.
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trinque: I'd use the same to deed teh logz
asciilifeform: supposing phf ever has the time to make such a thing.
asciilifeform: my 1 remaining wishlist item would be something like a nightly (weekly?) tarball of the whole log shebang.
asciilifeform likes phf's l0gz as they now appear.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 19:25 pete_dushenski: phf: loving the new search. think you could add a button or link back to the logs so i don't have to diddle the url every time ?
asciilifeform: also why the fuck should i reveal to world where and in what order shit is in my db.
asciilifeform: i could, say, shit out the index used by the db internally - but then i'd be married to that db
trinque: the phuctoring events don't have an ID on your end?
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, you could also just put an incrementing integer in there.
asciilifeform: not a single symmetric cipher other than otp has ever been proven to be worth a sparrow's fart.
Framedragger: aha, then i guess you don't really enjoy the fact that gpg uses aes for session key actually? :)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: you weren't here for the 'symmetric crypto other than otp is snake oil' thread. get thee to the logz.
asciilifeform: when the process is sped up artificially we call it a break,
asciilifeform: i never really liked the idea of a hash.
asciilifeform: e.g., the gpgkey hash
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of hashes in there to collide
asciilifeform: let the barf flow.
phf: reload particularly needs to be fixed, and it's perhaps 5 lines of code, but requires dropping one large context, and lifting another to do it intentionally. as is whatever fixes done to log str result of background radiation noise like effects of my brain, "i suddenly remember relevant bits, and here's the solution, go write it down"
asciilifeform: for instance, i used to be able to read the log by hitting 'reload'
asciilifeform: or, for instance, the fact that datetime has NO DEFAULT string representation
phf: but you also have to account of all kinds of other spec violations. like having non-blank ids that are also non-unique
trinque: because the spec says it's unique
trinque: because he is not relying on the ID field being unique to determine whether he's seen an entry
trinque: the ID is supposed to be unique
asciilifeform: as if that were the only item.
trinque: that one can reprogram them doesn't invalidate the fact that having to do so is a sign that your culture's not producing functioning adults
ben_vulpes: i like machines that work out of the box.
ben_vulpes: he enjoys the reprogramming.
ben_vulpes: "on dirigible, there is fantastic seat!"
ben_vulpes: keep sifting through the haystack, apparently.
asciilifeform: trinque: what's the alternative? only date chix born and raised in #t ?
ben_vulpes: who've seen, experienced, breathed
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i enjoy the company of adults, not children
asciilifeform: young chix are programmable, they would just as happily 'great is the prophet muhammad' if born elsewhere.
ben_vulpes: that i care not one whit to spread my meager energy across the vast faceless mass of other people, but would rather concentrate it on these few that i actually like
ben_vulpes: that the socialist call for us all to put our shoulders to the grindstone to make the world a better place only taxes those who work to benefit those who don't
ben_vulpes: that the world cannot be made better
ben_vulpes: healing the world
trinque: ben_vulpes: left the cats with ex but yes
BingoBoingo: Anyways if mice are too big, blast the cat with some Tren. Cat is just a smaller racehorse that's already clued in on protein.
ben_vulpes: a friend of mine recently broke up with his girl of 4+ years, and i realized during conversation about his new dating adventures and the kinds of women he was encountering that i would have patience for approximately zero reeducation at this point in my life.
ben_vulpes: i think the 'entitlement' to which trinque refers is a specific set of attitudes common to 'millenials'.
asciilifeform: for instance, i'm about to buy moar display. it will be an lcd. but if mircea_popescu buys another display, it won't be lcd, it'll be a thing where a gurl flips pixels manually.
asciilifeform: how big are your mice. how strong - the cat.
asciilifeform: think of the gurl as a large bipedal cat.
asciilifeform: ah so then.
ben_vulpes: they have him
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 18:08 trinque: gonna take a lot of mircea_popescutronium to cure the entitlement, face or no face
asciilifeform: 'I’ve since stopped using my heater. Have you ever slept fully clothed under several blankets just so you don’t get a cold and have to miss work? Have you ever drank a liter of water before going to bed so you could fall asleep without waking up a few hours later with stomach pains because the last time you ate was at work? I woke up today with stomach pains. I made myself a bowl of rice.' << wtf
trinque: It’s the assembly language programming game you never asked for! << lol
trinque: gonna take a lot of mircea_popescutronium to cure the entitlement, face or no face
BingoBoingo: She's a transplant to the bay area failing to afford it. Likely a female to mayo transgender with asperzorsations of leaving Ohio behind.
asciilifeform: just like not whole usa costs like tokyo, as the west does, or is full of politicos, as the east is
BingoBoingo: You know. The camera tricks split finned cetceans use on dating sites to appear human like.
phf: well, conference scene's been taken over particularly hard by the usual suspects. it was mildly useful back in 2005, because you could get a face to face, or a beer session, with useful people. for example at pycon i got to spend time with the entire twisted team, which was at a rear end of me trying to grok their stack, so i had a lot of very productive learning sessions
asciilifeform: trinque: the folks payin' $10k/mo for a 1room flat ?
trinque: who's going to pay in the broke-ass valley anyway
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: more interesting question, what of the 'gold mine between her legs' ?
BingoBoingo: "Maybe instead, you can help set up something to allow Eat24/Yelp employees to get food from local food banks and soup kitchens? Im pretty proficient at rice, but some hot soup would sure make up for not being able to afford to use my heater." Why wasn't the bitch availing herself of this?
asciilifeform: (as reported in the l0gz in real time...)
asciilifeform: i went to a total of 1 tech-themed con, shmoocon, and it was a pathetic waste of time
phf: i went to pycon twice back when guido (and part of Twisted team) were still in dc doing Zope. it was different back then(tm), but i distinctly remember there being "talks by women", not surprisingly of varied quality
asciilifeform: she is in there even now.
asciilifeform: phf: lulzily i just met one of these (as part of my official expedition duties)
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Getting older’s easier with friends like these. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/05/31/getting-olders-easier-with-friends-like-these/
ben_vulpes: so pediwikia claims that du chatelet is actually the postulator of the total energy constraint?
asciilifeform: 'If the herd becomes too loud or too otherwise noticeable in any one place, the people will just move to another place.'
trinque: I can either check each field for differences like a retard or just be given an ID that identifies the event, not the thing to which it happened
trinque: checked code, ID field indeed. were I to use timestamp, then some asshole would give me two of the same timestamp
trinque: can just put #timestamp on the ID or something if you like
trinque: were that unique as per (iirc) the spec of atom it'd not be skipping posts
trinque: asciilifeform: you are reusing the ID field in your atom feed
mircea_popescu: neways, this log is long an' the flesh is weak. bbl!
mircea_popescu: i suspect sweat actually is also a major factor ; definitely urine. complicated matter and i'm lazy. let the curious mind run their own studies.
mircea_popescu: yeah well there's that.
mircea_popescu: condomsharing (ie, when you enter them alternatively without bothering to change the condom) definitely does.
asciilifeform: (have you ~seen~ the rat pits.)
asciilifeform: in the kind of close quarters dorm folk live in, they may as well be eating each other's undies.
mircea_popescu: wearing each other's underwear works though.
asciilifeform: i thought all they had to do was be in smellin' range.
mircea_popescu: think in terms of "hepatitis alone" rather than "influenza alone"
asciilifeform: there is ~no such thing in usa studentland as 'chick living alone'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought they synced with roommates / officemates
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) most surpriseful of all surprises b) girls of the age living "alone" ie, not tonsils deep in other girl's cunts don't usually have regular periods.
mircea_popescu: college in teh modern democracy being this roughly speaking featureless insane asylum. getting terms extended becomes then positive attention, and so they start seeking it for lack of anything else more meaningful to seek
asciilifeform: where, what, there is no such thing as semester ?
mircea_popescu: honestly i think it's an outgrowth of the "college experience"
asciilifeform: srsly do they not menstruate.
mircea_popescu: it's a very "western world" phenomena, roughly half the beatings in half the girls in the first half year have something to do with "i was surprised by X periodic event", usually a bill or w/e
mircea_popescu: "i've never observed these things show up regularly on a monthly schedule befoar"
asciilifeform: this apparently is an actual thing, some folks were taken down from the trees by mistake, and cannot handle any timed process more complicated than skinning banana
mircea_popescu: dude had an unexpected expense in the form of a lapsing subscription, being the idea.
asciilifeform: then ???
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so dude goes in, wants to buy coppers, which me and n other people tell him to simmer down and figure out the game first ; then spends the next weeks hussling bitcent at a time.
asciilifeform: (and nothing at all about, well, the folks who actually kicked the jerries out of their pesthole)
asciilifeform: at whose embassy there is a shrine to patton, who took ~one town~
asciilifeform: except possibly if they had czechs
asciilifeform: hard to imagine moar pathetic set.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, the most pathetic thing at the parade was a GIGANTIC american flag carried by buncha korean derps, emigres,
asciilifeform: they, what, search google for 'i'm out of gamez, i need a game' ?
asciilifeform: where do these even come from.
mircea_popescu: the one time when "has Latin", that, specifically, not "can write" or other junk would have served as you wish it to serve, was cca 500 ad. and at that time it served like "knowing idish" served you in the new york harbor cca early 1900s. plenty of people were there because specifically "Pedalavo come se fuggissi, e in realta fuggivo, da lei, da quelle emozioni, da i sogni, da i ricordi, da tutto. E pensavo che dovevo dimenti
asciilifeform: i have not been tuned in.. mircea_popescu, how is the experiment in driving all-comers to pgp coming along ?
asciilifeform: would rather be ritchie at bell labs, or voltaire ^, or hard-nose british surrounded by angry niggerz to machine gun all day long
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473670 << this is a fallacy of the first order. it could be presumed to come from some sort of cleric, who could be presumed to be some sort of transposition of that horror which today i call a nigger. i see no benefit accruing to me on this score for going back to 1850 or 1650.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 00:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473644 << this was a miserable idea to begin with. cry me a river of small violins over how the illo tempore "good socialism" of "every man had a wife" is some sort of something i should care about.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1473851 << was less 'demoocracy' and more about how world used to be less verminiferous on the whole and folks had a bit moar surplus to throw around.
mircea_popescu: just don't step on any of the invisible tripwires that are found in places which don't even necessarily make geometric sense. TO YOU, NOOB!!1
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 00:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473642 << this is not merely false, it is backwards to reality. a lot of cocks do not result in a "loose" pussy ; they result in a well musculated, pleasurable fuckhole. similarly so, the only thing that results in thick "mental carpaces" are "healthy" ie deratized situations.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473666 << eh you kidding, i'm the nicest guy there is.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: at any rate, germany had the gas centrifuge, it is where su found it.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but he's fondly remembered as the "let's keep going" guy.
asciilifeform: ditto what was in the massive 6-engined junkers that flew to buenos aires in '45.
asciilifeform: what exactly patton (who died in strange circumstances right after war) found when he plundered the seeekrit shit, is still Officially Seekrit.
mircea_popescu: it's doubtful wtf the germans had.
asciilifeform: there is, in archive, a letter from general groves to truman stating, plainly, that there will not be REMOTELY enough U for bomb.
asciilifeform: which is why the crackpot hypothesis that they plundered german uranium is so popular
mircea_popescu: good thing they didn't make a tin woman, in the shape of a raindeer with a funnel up its butt.
asciilifeform: esp. the american abomination