mircea_popescu: (ethereum people are really 100% about bitcoin, kinda like how us-based, nominally "protestant" supposedly independent "churches" are 100% about catholicism ; or us-based "nigger hating" / "taking down the zog machine jew by jew by jew" "white power" groups are 100% about please fuck my wife now, she's ovulating. it's the us thing, don't ask me to explain it.)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-05 22:05 Mocky: localbitcoins decides to turn away all their remaining legitimate users in. RIP LBC http://archive.is/kfpKC
mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course.
asciilifeform: ('r4000' is the earliest ~64bit~ mipsoid)
BingoBoingo: Also back to exporting electricity to Argentina though unsure what load on their grid they could be satifying given their very slow restoration of luz
BingoBoingo: An update on the power situation: Since the local power company must compensate customers for outages here, today's events incurred a rather substantial damage. Curious to see the fireworks that'll happen whether or not UTE pursues the money from Argentina's power company.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/06/16/the-environmental-problem-in-the-new-world-part-two/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- The Environmental Problem In The New World: Part Two
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/06/argentine-fuckup-leads-to-power-outages-in-argentina-uruguay-and-parts-of-other-south-american-countries/ << Qntra -- Argentine Fuckup Leads To Power Outages In Argentina, Uruguay, And Parts Of Other South American Countries
BingoBoingo: Crowd appeared to have temporarily altered the city's demographics sufficiently to be ~Portland instead of ~Detroit for the day
BingoBoingo: Apparently 6, maybe 7 figure paleface crowd went to Saint Louis to celebrate them getting the hockey trophy. There apparently were no typical "urban" incidents of note.
BingoBoingo: The bubble though is very visible in baseball where, without salary caps or other "fairness" things.. the free agent market has been very dead the past two years.
BingoBoingo: Hockey appears to be thriving either in spite, or because it doesn't draw the excess ananlyst wank Basketball and handegg do
mircea_popescu: for the first time ever, the 1-in-10 girls athlete (aka stripper) will outincome the 1-in-100k boy athlete (aka black dude)
mircea_popescu: not going back up, either.
BingoBoingo: It seems the US sports bubble is fairly well popped with the NFL and NBA having popped the most.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> that and declining cable interest. << So Antel has a free tv streaming thing all of their customers can use. One of its few channels is NBA network
mircea_popescu: or maybe the us infrastructure's crumbling to the degree nba actually has to play in uruguay
BingoBoingo: I suspect some sort of exhibition or maybe the Harlem globetrotters misrepresented as the NBA. Worst NBA team versus national champion Aguada could be pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: these orc minds in which "to critique" is the up to date, digital way to say the bad
BingoBoingo: Note that in the Argentine-Uruguay interconnection relationship... Argentina is the IMPORTER!
BingoBoingo: Does not appear to have affected the Pizarro rack. Took out power in the habitation module for some time.
BingoBoingo: In other news ARGIES FUCKED ELECTRICITY UP today
asciilifeform went and dug up 'asciilifeform in bmore' thrd, and saw that he used a rubbish image paste thing. this was a mistake, and nao corrected. perma-archive of the item nao here.
diana_coman: that much is true and partially why the old houses are "better" - because at least less mchouse in principle, at least along the lines that it's anyway picked as "the best of old houses since the worst are anyway not even standing anymore"
mircea_popescu: yes, but standardized "the times" housing as available now is... well...
diana_coman: from at least one perspective, it's hard to argue why would one ever actually *want* to leave in someone else's house - assuming that it was indeed built to fit the original owner's specific idiosynchrasies rather than to fit the times, the neighbours, the architect or whatever else
mircea_popescu: sure, one might preserve them, as museums. but i wouldn't wanna live in the house a rich jew from 1819 built for himself and his family anymore than i'd wanna live in the mote & baily some never-washed briton built for the ugly lass he broke his prick in
mircea_popescu: one of the first articles on trilema is about ~this. my opinion hasn't mellowed out with age, but on the contrary -- from an utilitarian perspective, the leftover constructions are fit for demolition and naught else.
asciilifeform reminded by this of the time he went to bmore and was shown around various ruins, 'wouldja like to buy the whole block? why not?' then added up the cost of terraforming...
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, have visited, would not live there.
diana_coman: renovated old buildings so I'd assume they actually have that sort of thing but admittedly I haven't actually visited any of those myself (and fwiw afaik wineyards or woods rather than orchards)
mircea_popescu: nothing built before 1950 is built in any fucking sense, what, ima dynamite pathways for plumbing through their haphazard river rock and mortar aglomerations ?
mircea_popescu: (notwithstanding that i do not believe the item described physically exists in this whole oregon, because the locals are monkeys)
mircea_popescu: i guess other trees might work, but certainly not fucking "prodution" apple or other 3 meter tall lolshits
mircea_popescu: depends on the tree, but anyways
asciilifeform: moreover, old but not ~too~, iirc the tree is good for 2-3 decades
mircea_popescu: moreover, how are they gonna make it be in an old orchard ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, but how are they gonna excavate a floor underneath ?
asciilifeform without even being mircea_popescu , in the past negotiated 'i'll rent this if you put in x, y, z' leases
mircea_popescu: (srsly people, what the FUCK is the point of having tubs smaller than the human being ? you don't make beds like that, do you ?)
mircea_popescu: it's the saddest thing...
mircea_popescu: you can not rent the hosue i'd build for any money. mostly because nobody generally includes half inch thick steel rings in the little girls' basement cellrooms
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu rented errywhere, i.e. nowhere actually +ev to own the walls
mircea_popescu: unless i rent a mall... and honestly, the shit here is not worth owning.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-23 19:57 mircea_popescu: hello all, from the european castle mp!
mircea_popescu: o look at that, they can't even do internets.
asciilifeform: i suspect bottom also left, those toilets in germany won't polish themselves
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, as 2020 is just around the corner -- three quarters of the top quarter left.
mircea_popescu: by the time 2001 rolled around, that nigger at dept of state and all the rest of the lulz -- about half of the top 5% had left
mircea_popescu: i suspect demographic collapse is at the root of it. by the end of 90s, about half of the top first percentile had left the country.
mircea_popescu: it's not any one detail, though. it's the system. they've meanwhile re-crystalised their idiocy, and it remarkably preserved just about all of it.
mircea_popescu: i could go on, but it's not worht anyone's time. call them centrul preorasenesc "romania", si mai da-i si-n pula.
mircea_popescu: be it the "dj" who, atop the roof of a parking lot, is trying to "mc" some of the saddest retarded-white-trash-kids-from-the-ghetto-made-themselves-a-band-just-like-their-mommies-heard-those-rich-suburban-kids-used-to-do-in-THEIR-moms-garages-backintheninteties
mircea_popescu: be it the dentist who doesn't have an imaging cabinet at her "smileup tooth health center", and KNOWS she should, and goes to incredible lengths to subtly deal with this orally, get me to do this and that for her TWENTY DOLLAR consultation fee
mircea_popescu: all the way to the drastic sadness of "supermarket" stocking or "posh" hangout places, including there the relationship of the people themselves to the obvious (and obviously disavowed) awareness of their inadequacy.
mircea_popescu: dying-dead-decaying-decayed as a metaphorical approach sounds trite through overuse, but it's also chillingly accurate. from the very specific feel of the particular manner in whichaustro-hungarian architectural heritage's decaying (becayse yes, this is very highly specific, it's not just a word or just ten words, it's "german musical universe" sort of precise, particular and specific)
mircea_popescu: in other shit nobody cares about, it's quite impossible to describe just how much romania's decayed since joining the eu -- particularly in the past 5/10 eyars.
BingoBoingo: And the WoT grows meatier in its fibers
mircea_popescu: and so the web grows!!!
asciilifeform: theoretically, in naked iron variant, can simply translate the mips page tbl into pc's. but this is for much later.
asciilifeform: much broader range of things you can do, if yer asmism is standalone rather than inlined into gnat etc.
asciilifeform: can reclaim e.g. ebp, r8-15 etc, which normally clobbered by the proc call abi.
asciilifeform: the only thing to add, possibly for n00bz, is the observation that you can actually use all the machine regs, as pictured above, if you dun have any c or other compiled lang in the proggy
asciilifeform: i.e. ffa-style mux for the sim-branch clockwork.
asciilifeform: 1 example of sim-inst, 'branch on less than zero', to give illustration of the moving parts.
asciilifeform: incidentally when asming on amd (possibly intel also, but i threw out my intel datashits..) can hand-crank the cache when desired.
asciilifeform: it won't even astonish asciilifeform if in the end finds out that purely-interpreter algo actually clocks faster on recent (10y) pc irons than 'dynamic'. cuz fits in l0 cache and dun rewrite executable pages (i.e. dun blow the cache erry time it farts)
asciilifeform: other aspect of this, picture trying to rewrite a 'dynamic' emu like bellard's, to run on e.g. arm.
asciilifeform: ( recall that there's been 2-3 published vulns for it per month, for , what, 5y nao )
asciilifeform: in my clockwork there is no heap allocation, and errything that can live in machine reg, does. (the only allocation is one mmap, for the emu-ram, a user-specified x GB chunk, after that 100% regs/stack)
asciilifeform: there is ~not~ a shortage of irons. but there ~is~ a shortage of soft that actually behaves to spec and fitsinhead.
asciilifeform: notably, i reject bellard's approach to emuism , where he 'dynamically recompiles' . imho it aint worth the 9000x moar complex clockwork.
asciilifeform: strangely enuff, dun seem that any of the game emulator people, ever baked a properly hand-asmed emu for it
asciilifeform: to sorta tie into the 'games' thrd, found out by way of digging for mipsisms, that : 'playstation 1' toy box was apparently a mips (3000) .
asciilifeform: ( for n00bs -- why mips? cuz pretty small instr set, and fixed-length codes; and theoretically existing gcc backend. really no other reason. )
asciilifeform: almost all of the sim-instrs fit in amd64's 32byte cache line load.
asciilifeform: emulates errything but the page table mechanism, which is somewhat gnarly even on mips (tho miniscule compared to pc's)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-04 13:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-04#1917019 << i'ma describe, for the l0gz, the hypothetical. suppose mips emu in asm ( the heathen item in fact compiles to a 30kB elf , not esp. complex, but would want clean rewrite really ). this'd be proggy that takes disk image and it tx/rx raw frames to/from nic, so can have own ip etc. then 1 large amd box can host coupla 100 instances of mips linux from known image. <1s teardown/bringup.
asciilifeform back to ffaism, after short 'vacation' . will order piz irons in coming 2wk, as the req'd fiatola piles up
mircea_popescu: women have this great advantage, that they cvan fuck dressed.
BingoBoingo: The two auctions delivered an exchange rate of 7250 usd/BTC, the 500 USD auction actually returned the lower of the two rates (7143 versus 7269 for the dc wire)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff i did not even get to take 'graphics' at uni (it ended up choice b/w it and 'operating systems', went with the latter) but i did at one pt eat the classic hughes, foley & van dam b00k
diana_coman: (my current going through huge lists of oh, add x textures and then for each of them y shaders and z lights etc doesn't make me think any higher of the paint-the-wood approach either)
diana_coman: fwiw I must say that it's precisely this "let's paint the fence" approach that put me off computer graphics in the first place because my uni taught nothing else and I foolishly believed them that there was nothing better either.
mircea_popescu: job security, it's a primum bonum in the ustardian understanding of "free market"
asciilifeform: imho it was The Wrong Thing tho (yes the 2d artist types got to keep their jobs and avoided relearning anyffin, but result is that nao there are 'wooden' monsters, lovingly 'painted', rather than 'tru' 3d...)
diana_coman: myeah, except I'm no graphics expert (and the pile of burnt is already big)
mircea_popescu: im not all that sold on blits being right thing either.
asciilifeform: ( consider, e.g., the 'ada-sockets' horror of 'abstraction' replaced in the udp lib )
asciilifeform: naturally only diana_coman can answer this q. but fwiw asciilifeform has yet to encounter a single case where burning the heathen abstraction to the ground and baking new one didn't make problem substantially simpler in the end.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-14 18:06 mircea_popescu: because movement and fitting arbitrary shapes together (eg, "equipped the helmet") you need osature and all sorta abstractions.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-14#1918191 -> the q being ofc if the existing "abtractions" really help much or just make it even harder; a sort of C/CPP thing rather than Ada thing.
asciilifeform: i have suspicion that it'd scale fine if the folx baking gpu irons had baked for it (e.g. picture properly-bouncing gouraud tits) . whereas i dun recall a single 'textured' game where critters did not from certain angles look 'wooden'.
mircea_popescu: yeah. that thing was beautiful then, but did nto scale.
mircea_popescu: the reason blits won is that you want nipples on the tits, niot just some vague color shade
asciilifeform: 'The 3D ojects are not texture mapped (= wrapping textures on a 3D object), but they get their color from gouraud shading' etc
asciilifeform: recall, where the hero's robe flowed properly when he fought, etc
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 13:32 asciilifeform: incidentally, apropos of gamez thread, there was very interesting french msdos item, 'little big adventure', that blew asciilifeform's mind, had 2010s-style graphic on 40mhz 486. ( how ? clever gourad system, and pile of asm i suspect )
mircea_popescu: the point was "why api". the anwer is, because underlying reality very complex, it helps to have an indirection layer.
mircea_popescu: because movement and fitting arbitrary shapes together (eg, "equipped the helmet") you need osature and all sorta abstractions.
BingoBoingo: That they sold it to flat assed secretaries to do mailing lists doesn't change what it is.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-14 07:15 mircea_popescu: <mp3butcher> big work indeed (blender api keep changing all the time) << i don't intend to support that, really. for one it's not really TMSR tradition ; for the other there's that entire femfiasco.
BingoBoingo: So it appears. Thing appears set to go to end in a run off between the FA candidate and the Blanco candidate with the Colorado candidate serving only to make sure the thing goes to a runoff.
mircea_popescu: kinda how these shits work in femstatw
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news they had a debate between two of the many candidates from the many parties. One was the Colorado who identifies as an economist http://bingology.net/2019/05/26/overview-of-local-electoral-politics-heading-into-the-impending-party-internals/#selection-127.0-131.39 the other some FA guy that didn't make my write up
asciilifeform: 'rose by any other name' heh
mircea_popescu: or reductered. either way.
mircea_popescu: well... ok then ;p
hanbot: apparently she's neither, but one "elizabeth patterson"
mircea_popescu: is she the marble rye hag!
hanbot: mircea_popescu the one that looks like lillian gish? sure.
mircea_popescu: <mp3butcher> big work indeed (blender api keep changing all the time) << i don't intend to support that, really. for one it's not really TMSR tradition ; for the other there's that entire femfiasco.
mircea_popescu: remember the land lady in pal joey ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot, ok baby, have i got the q for you!
mircea_popescu wonders if anyone in charlotte names their daughter charlotte
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-12#1918035 << definitely. I'll have an hour or so during the afternoon if you want to meet somewhere in Charlotte
asciilifeform: 'hostile text files' << the primacy crown, afaik, still goes to microshit , where these were a thing even in 1990s
asciilifeform also subscribes to the '19th c'-style pov, where 'asia == ricekingdoms'
BingoBoingo: The way Mandarin insulates against the future is one asian problem. The other is Indianness and its languages have their own anting mechanisms.
mircea_popescu: it's the one historical heritage of indianess.
mircea_popescu: whole bureaucracy's pretty much that. which is funny, considering those "englightnened" fucks managed to ruin pretty much anything they got involved in.
mircea_popescu: the sad fact of the matter's trump willy-nilly presides over teh make india great again.
BingoBoingo: Seriously why is eating config options from the input file a thing?
BingoBoingo: Probably too early to call it shutdown. Pivoting to Chinaware is going to take time after doing the wintel thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds not entirely unlike that other 'great again'(tm)
mircea_popescu: i expect what the fuck happened was -- this dude's mortgage being underwater, the bank clerks started making noises about selling his actual place. so he went "fuck you, ima do a tour, make like 100k or w/e i owe you schmucks, pay off the whole loan!!!"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, bon jovi (obscure 90s act) is engaged in a "this house is not for sale" tour
Mocky: mircea_popescu: I don't have 1btc worth now, I have enough left over income to start buying on regular basis. Will still take a few months to amass the total.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/06/the-adventure-of-goosey-boy/ << Bimbo.Club -- The adventure of Goosey boy.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/093-hunchentoot-i.html << The Tar Pit -- A review of Hunchentoot's code history
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: from asciilifeform's archaeologies, got hypothesis that market for standalone srams is 99% for repair/reproduction of '80s-'90s designs -- current-day ic which require sram tend to 1) need a few kB, maybe a MB or 2 , and 2) include it on-die
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local lulz https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Desde-su-implementacion-regulacion-de-Cannabis-arrebato-unos-US-25-millones-al-narco-uc721097 << Nothing of the sort. The folks who used to sling one dope now sling another dope.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-06 07:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917398 << nothing to laugh, it's exactly correct. the long standing slight margin on mining over trading is exactly this, "market participant voluntarily set cost of privacy".
asciilifeform: cuz they ~pay, lol
asciilifeform: ( why should 8GB of 'drepper-os' or winblowz get 8GB of sram ? it'd be rather a penicillin for a corpse )
asciilifeform: could even say that erry piece of soft gets the irons that it deserves.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can still buy all the 1980s-style srams (incl. rad-hard) you like, 128kB 10ns chip is about 4bux. these suffice for the icbms and wherever else folx actually care about bits staying put. what no one makes is sram that'd fit the bloat of 'modern' pc os etc.
asciilifeform: there's nothing physically impossible or even especially difficult about making gigantic sram -- you simply need 6 transistors for erry 1 that'd be in the dram yer replacing. simply, no one does.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it makes sense, if it can't correct in O(1) cuz it has to interrupt a burst (all dram since mid-90s runs in long bursts much of the time, typically fill 1 or moar cache lines) then leaks via time.
diana_coman: from the paper so apparently yes, on ecc too
diana_coman: nature of the ECC correction algorithm typically exposes such
diana_coman: Unfortunately, as Cojocar et al. [13] show, the synchronous
BingoBoingo: Similarly there's a lack of SRAM and boards supporting it.
asciilifeform still doesn't grasp why is it that no one sells mobos where can use redundant (majoritated, rather than failover, the latter is dime a dozen) banks of ram.
mircea_popescu: in other news, pillars of eternity is a fucking great "good old Infinity engine days". up there with planescape : torment i'd say (not as deliberately-artsy-quirky-???).
spyked: I'd made a small toy proggy to draw a mandelbrot set, zoom in etc. when the time came to show it, no one in the room even knew what a fractal was, although ~all~ the teachers there were math-informatics graduates
a111: Logged on 2019-06-11 21:38 diana_coman: well, the 18yo me at programming exam-to-get-qualification-diploma got told directly (out of prof's sheer exasperation I suppose): "next time, don't think that much!"
a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 18:27 lobbes: I may indeed take some time in the next months to make a trip down there at least. If anything to clear my head and sort some things out (plus, I've never met another Republican in the meat, so there is also that plus)
asciilifeform: for that matter afaik all the major shitcoinen have 'asicized' by nao iirc
asciilifeform for many yrs nao could not muster the giving-a-fuck to mine shitcoin
asciilifeform: ftr my '1080' is sad an' idle, gathers dust.
asciilifeform: not much need for the 4kg of nvidia
asciilifeform: there's reportedly extensions an' such.
mircea_popescu: yup. http://trilema.com/2011/ce-am-pierdut-si-voi-n-ati-avut/ << he might appreciate, your brother.
mircea_popescu: i got ~all the pre-2005 or so games. i got gothic, i got everything, 100s of titles. diablo 2.
asciilifeform shared mircea_popescu's 'vidya lament' with brother, who answered 'did he ever 'rage of mages' '
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. whatever, i forget what the point was.
mircea_popescu: an' the relationship between THAT and the usgistani sadnesses is entirely like between historical penguin and extant penguin -- simple misnomerism.
mircea_popescu: but the relationship between the european university and the "found some cool shit, hit it with hammer, ran off with pieces to our troglodyte hovel" british college is iffy at best.
mircea_popescu: all of them, no exceptions, princeton of great fame, stanford, mit, what have you -- they survive as sovereign funds, exactly like china's (only much smaller, worse managed and with way shittier portofolios) with an entirely spuriously magic cap on.
asciilifeform: i never saw it other than as fragmented fossils.
asciilifeform: very briefly in late 'vhs' era there was such sea of usg money that a select few folx managed to embezzle a little and do something substantial. but all evaporated, or, worse, relabeled with 'correctly aryan' names
mircea_popescu: the us wanna-be oxfords are like you know, kids at the special needs preserve dressing up in penguin costumes.
asciilifeform: ftr i associate mit et al with (not only the infamous lightbulb) but the freak show described upstack, rather than with 'great researchers'
asciilifeform: there's little enuff left that it takes serious archaeology to even show that it was there, aha
mircea_popescu: i suppose lisp stands as a leftover of the time you speak of, so it must've existed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, pretty much whole selling point by nao of the diploma, 'buy this here lottery ticket for cubanism'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, very easy to get new business STAR!!!! from socialist machine. they pick one, "congrats son, now you're Cuban Mark VII"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laff, but they opened a 'biznis cs' dept, for folx who ~can't count.
mircea_popescu: afaik all the "oh, not trade school, true universal education, APPLIED MATH!!!" hullaballoo ever produced was ~xml/wikipedia/that sorta thing. a lot of very overbearing, insufferable, nonsensically overspecified minutia.
mircea_popescu: in the sense every trade school has pretentions.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-11 21:50 asciilifeform: all the ones i recall from early 2000s, gone nao
asciilifeform: asciilifeform out of school was dumb, from chumpatronic pov, as a sack of rocks, got conned into designing for these people a certain iron part, ~in off hours~ from cleaning ducts. it was, as i understand, put into production, with a mit grad's name attached.
asciilifeform: owner of the co, had one, and thought it was what distinguished man from animal
asciilifeform: was funny place, they had an inner core of people who 'research', supported by the salt mine contracts worked by the plebes. but to be in the 'research' clique, was apparently (unofficially) necessary to have 'mit' diploma.
asciilifeform: ( eventually demoted to pulling cable an' cleaning ducts, then sacked. )
asciilifeform: point is, most of the folx in the room were already there on acct of thinking uni was a somehow classier 'trade school' for programmer
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we had a (and 1 of the moar intelligent...) profs , who tried to 'drum up morale' by telling 'success stories', e.g. 'didja hear of bob, he's a gruppenfuhrer at microshit nao!' 'joe from last year is head of chromism at google' etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rright, simply must point out, asciilifeform's experience with 'troo 1333337' schools is quite limited, pretty much 100% from archaeology, rather than own skin
diana_coman: what can I say; fwiw on one hand entrance exam at my uni was already getting seriously watered down and onth in 500 students/ year (minimum), I have former colleagues that are happily microshitting now as they were then
diana_coman: my observation re numbers is that it's not as much whether reich or not but simply whether "public education" as in "for everyone" or not; because if profs are recruited based on need, there will just never be enough really; and the wider the base aka the greater the need, the more chickenhouse, inevitably
asciilifeform: the type of person who thrives in reich academia, is ye olde 'beetle man'.
asciilifeform: all the ones i recall from early 2000s, gone nao
diana_coman: well, how would anyone find as many exceptions as needed to fill all the unis basically (not to mention all schools!)
asciilifeform: we had ~same type of profs here, with very few (~100% emigre) exceptions, i imagine much fewer exceptions than at diana_coman's uni. y'know the type, that reacts to 'made to think' same way as mcd clerk to being asked to make exact change
diana_coman: I don't even recall exactly but basically took their spec too seriously
diana_coman: well, the 18yo me at programming exam-to-get-qualification-diploma got told directly (out of prof's sheer exasperation I suppose): "next time, don't think that much!"
asciilifeform: 'in learning the names of ptolemy's spheres'!1111
diana_coman: hm, kind of all learning is about "how to fit in"; the difference is "in what"
asciilifeform: inca fears p2p radio like the proverbial vampire -- crucifix. i'm actually surprised somewhat, that 'ricochet' was even permitted to be built as it were
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 18:52 asciilifeform: funnily related story, back when asciilifeform was a uni student, cellpnojeism was beginning to spread among plebelands, and asciilifeform noticed that folx were paying telco fiddycents/minute to talk over 1-2km ! so asciilifeform went, like naive idjit, to engineering profs, with 'p2p telephony' proposal thing, reaction was the exact sort of through-the-teeth laughter of today's bernstein re phuctor .
asciilifeform: i dun know specifically why 'musted die', but in general usg favours the old telecom monopolies; plus prolly didn't help that 'ricochet' did not build gps into the modems and made it possible to pass packets directly over the mesh, i.e. 'potentially terrorist' net
asciilifeform: it competed with the gsm people, who engineered a corporate 'oops, no money' for it to die on
asciilifeform: and they happily pass packets.
asciilifeform: there's still a couple 100k of'em, drawing half an amp from light poles all over usa
a111: Logged on 2014-02-19 04:25 asciilifeform: they still respond to signals! i once bought a ricochet modem just to determine this.
mircea_popescu: basically they went ahead and did our passive mesh network thing
asciilifeform: on top of this (and, uncharacteristically, is hyped 'feature', rather than seekrit 'nobus') the boxen no longer 'off' if there are any joules left in battery; nao serve 24/7 to relay gps coords from neighbouring crappletrons (both running and 'off') on the off-chance that someone didn't plug in a nic etc
asciilifeform: to add to this already tall pile o'lulz, per crapple, epoxy aint enuff , power switch (deliberately flimsy) nao includes a cr50-style rsa ic, and not replaceable w/out Official Blessing from vendor (and for good measure, epoxied into the lump)
asciilifeform: lol problem aint the epoxy.
asciilifeform: crapple, in the usual pantsuit 'add insult to injury', has audacity to brag re 'macbook is entirely recyclable'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, reportedly in recent crapple, whole box is fulla epoxy, not only battery compartment
mircea_popescu: "are you the americans ?" "BY JOE I IS!"
mircea_popescu: there should be a short story about this, 1988 soviets don't spontaneously combust, but instead invade. find a mexican dude in all of new york
asciilifeform: anyone still recall the 1990s-era 'reich pgp' where castrated key bitness ?
mircea_popescu: i betcha the retards wil lactually do it.
BingoBoingo: I forgot to put that in the body, added.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'dve included the lulzy detail, 'victim -- jailed', in the title, but i suppose already lengthy
BingoBoingo: The story doesn't make this clear, but this is not the only recent case of the emergent fad where fuel is dumped into the armored cashier box and lit.
phf: (which might also be the reason why i forgot the password, it's lots of travel and heavy drinking sessions one after another..)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-10 19:50 asciilifeform: achtung, whoever it was who was voice-calling asciilifeform's torture room from ru : i do not pick these up, plox to use civilized means of contact.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform once thought this happened to him, but then found that keyboard had developed 'bounce'
phf: i've typed it every day for the past couple of years, multiple times a day, woke up last tuesday with no idea what it might be
asciilifeform: achtung, whoever it was who was voice-calling asciilifeform's torture room from ru : i do not pick these up, plox to use civilized means of contact.
BingoBoingo: lobbesbot jurov: Please issue the invoices at your convenience
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and THEN you gotta fix various half-installed libgdev and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: b) install gcc. and then make. because it SHIPS WITHOUT THESE. and then of course discover the current versions don't match what the kernel was compiled with.