mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of a shit about the disparate bits of reality he tried to fashion a disavowal out of.
Framedragger: re. hanno: oh yeah? i had thought he had had a point, re. those broken subkeys not being used anyway. but i guess the point is that phuctor found some *actually used* keys, etc.
Framedragger: particularize and shine light upon the particular cracks of the delusional reality model
mircea_popescu: so, always go after the places where "nobody'd ever look because nothing could ever be found because nobody'd ever look". total snakecharm.
mircea_popescu: which is why this simple strategy is so effectual - magic tricks work by directing the chump's attention SPECIFICALLY because emulating reality is so damned expensive you can only economically do it in small installments. you'd better make damn sure that's where they're looking and ONLY where they're looking. nobody can fucking afford to give a coat of paint over EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger "the lie", you know. which is why hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) et al went all in for the "nothing happened". derps are by and large conditioned to "think" that nothing happened because nothing happens because nothing can happen because nothing happened because...
shinohai: In other acquisitions news: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3082771/symantec-to-acquire-blue-coat-for-465-billion.html#tk.rss_all
mircea_popescu: this approach is to be continued systematically. much like a principal wanting to root out the crips from school is best advised to start with checking homework.
mircea_popescu: what few know/recall today is that when we started it, the agreement was "it's not going to find anything".
mircea_popescu: it's the correct approach ; what yielded phuctor also.
Framedragger: someone also tried spidering ssh keys from .onion hosts, and then matching them with ssh keys of ipv4 space; i want to re-try that, too
Framedragger: ahh " get pgp keys out of the gwen[sic] / sr dump"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 13:27 mircea_popescu: oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481481 << the 'error: invalid or non-wallet tx !' response to gettx is infuriating idiocy
mircea_popescu: i suppose in its own terms it makes sense, a sort of solipsistic revolt of the anal child. nevertheless... let jesus save them or whatever, we're busy.
mircea_popescu: well - it's what it is. there's a dedicated loafer community out there, adamant on "i shall not be useful". best filter them out asap.
mircea_popescu: exactly nothing, guy melted in the woodwork.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481480 << thinking about it. speaking of: whatever happened to the sr keys thing ?
mircea_popescu: oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ?
Framedragger: cycle may be complete then
mircea_popescu: stuff you don't feel like writing out in 1k words, interactive etc has a place. moreover, that place drives like a third or more of the longer pieces. it's a match made in heaven.
mircea_popescu: and fuck do i love this dual format omfg. how did people irc pre blogs ? how do people blog w/o irc ? i guess they use twitter... but shit, it doesn't compare.
mircea_popescu: i suppose their respective gatherings are the sum total of such difference : less clothing, more sunshine and more perfume where the girlies gather. more armpit stains and bad shirts and neon lighting where the boys gather.
Framedragger: daddy's connections help with the arbitrary selection
mircea_popescu: for all the pretense, the difference between these demos is vanishingly small if at all present.
mircea_popescu: well, they're sorta like the girls watching tv hoping to one day grow up into oprah through the mediation of being rap video sluts. except they're boys, and they read reddit, and hope to one day "make a company that sells for billions".
Framedragger: but yeah, i meant entrepreneur not in the etymological/definitional sense, but in the "currently attached bundle of crappy connotations" sense
Framedragger: actually i'm sure there are some legit poets on LJ, heh.
Framedragger: oh yeah already forgot about the password steal. lol. just fuck the entrepreneur world with a rake
mircea_popescu: a government recently installed, of course, through a push for "human rights" and "democracy", widely "embraced". ie, first destroy the state, then destroy the society, then it's time to walmart up.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being, of course, that nobody is pushing to "crack down on corruption" when it actually happens, ie, here. no, "cracking down on corruption" is Reich-speech for what happens in a recently conquered land, to destroy its local elite. that's what's meant when you say random noplace government harping about how they'll crack down on imaginary "corruption".
shinohai: LOL Microsoft buying LinkedIn ... will TOTALLY improve their security.
mircea_popescu: but if you want to know how the usg corrupt class siphons the public hreasury - look no further. that's the system, "acquisitions", government-mandated, like facebook buying some derpy app for $random_sum, and so on. "we gave you free money, now you give it back" goes the story.
Framedragger: (and you may still need to play egregious taxes if in US, even before you get to exercise them etc)
mircea_popescu: unlike whatever random thug that got killed dealing and started "riots", and who for no reason became "representative" of imaginary "social issues" - the story here, if deliberately blacked out, is nevertheless very representative. that schmuck stands, pars pro toto, for EVERYONE EVER in fiat lands.
Framedragger: yeah, "co-founders" are left with shares of shit class and shit amount thereof, it's a nice scam
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, as various "open source" geniuses (ref http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1265178 ) found out on own skin, of the "26bn, $randomfigure" of paper dollars, precious few turkey-dollars actually trickle down to the "owners". black or otherwise.
mircea_popescu: the scam being 1. govt prints and hands money off to "pension funds" -> 2. pension funds "invest" in microsoft ; 3. chosen sons form "online business", feed it as per http://trilema.com/2014/askfm-laid-bare-or-whats-half-a-million-uniques-to-you/ (there's an entire scamola pyramid to create "numbers" for these "properties", scratched the surface of documenting it on trilema but really it's collossal). and then finally, 4. 2 s
mircea_popescu: reprise of the "turner buys myspace for 1bn" thing.
mircea_popescu: (obviously, the hallucinated "black as non-white" she imagines has little to do with anything found in nature, but hey, sucks to be a black dude with a human sized penis.)
mircea_popescu: girl's desire to be black owned is not only perfectly understandable in that context, but rationally mandatory. what the fuck is she to do ?if she's got any life whatsoever left in her coils, what the everloving fuck is she to do, nurse eric ?
mircea_popescu: anyway : white fellow married a woman older than himself, impregnated her at the merry age of 30, and produced a useless shithead, which opted out just by the time "society" was done pumping half a mil in his sorry loser ass.
mircea_popescu: do you know it BingoBoingo ? the one describing a pimp with two fat women ; a guy with a hot chick fucking her in the bathroom ; and other things.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is as good a plan as it gets in the context.
phf: well, they've been buying up land around where they are with loans, and paying it off from donations and festivals which they write off as "religious ceremonies".
mircea_popescu: to fund their ops ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'shit hit the fan'
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
phf: asciilifeform: you were right, four quarters is a large shtf project, using hippie and music festivals to find their operations. i can see why orlol would like it
ben_vulpes: 20-something, "put wifi in the cardano!"
Framedragger should write some kind of simple thingie which takes (1) keyword and (2) timestamp pairs as intervals, and produces a kind of wiki page for all given keywords. (2) can be amended later as needed. so that there'd be a page for gossipd without much effort at all
mircea_popescu: prolly should also be pointed out that atm the design is yet the consistency of pudding.
asciilifeform: but ephemeral keys are necessary because there is NO reason why usg should know which lord is speaking to which.
Framedragger: right, which allows for transitivity of one sort or another, i suppose. fair enough
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481381 << would the scheme of gossipd in your mind as it currently stands allow for signatures by a non-permanent gpg key (by something akin to ephemeral key)? identity (of communicating party) integrity would be within the decrypted contents; but not ascertainable by message header (here's gpg id 0xbabe)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i understand it perfectly. but the baroque marlinspiked version is satanic and deliberately overcomplicated.
Framedragger: pfs is unclear but then who had it easy with worthwhile things anyway
Framedragger: i'll sketch mp's scheme on a whiteboard tomorrow or thereabouts, so i can say that i get the picture. makes sense overall, in terms of no chans as such, etc etc.
asciilifeform: any other behaviour - invitation to shitflood.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 00:13 mircea_popescu: not entirely clear what the benefit of ~signing~ said ephemeral keys is however
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 00:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, to understand each other : if M are messages signed by K[eys], then if on the basis of M2 you can prove that indeed K1 was used for M1 then your system is not pfs, and K aren't ephemeral.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481352 << ephemeral key is when only the participants can reconstruct the chain.
Framedragger: (aha, "actual order" of messages is not one of the requirements; interesting; i suppose folks who maintain that breaking order integrity == breaking s3curity!! are kind of derpy anyway, in the sense that if you have something critical to communicate, you'll find other means to derive integrity, etc.)
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 13:52 mircea_popescu: actually, let me go into detail, why the hell not. ("because derps stalk the logs for examples of how x doesn't understand y" "and ?" "myeah.")
mircea_popescu: Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-16#1467075 one of the more recent installments.
Framedragger: both, i suppose, or either would be interesting. gossipd probably provides decent constraints and framework for thought, so might as well stick to that
mircea_popescu: sure, but merely "chaning" the key is not good enough. if it signs it... they're there.
Framedragger: butbut, yes of course, hence the whole idea of otr actually changing session key constantly, for plausible deniability and all that (and won't argue that it's not broken)
mircea_popescu: there's one definition of pfs, and that is, later keys being compromised does not show anything about earlier keys.
Framedragger: hm, see i put more weight on the "can't encrypt if permanent key is compromised" part in pfs
mircea_popescu: anyway, to understand each other : if M are messages signed by K[eys], then if on the basis of M2 you can prove that indeed K1 was used for M1 then your system is not pfs, and K aren't ephemeral.
Framedragger: right, the example, however, only probed a general scheme, and no protocol particulars. but fair enough
Framedragger: however if you want to be sure that it was bob who constructed this session that you're now participating in - your old friend bob will have to show that he owns the private key
Framedragger: ephermeral keys are usually used for encryption; i don't think the functions of permanent vs. ephermeral keys are mutually exclusive at all
mircea_popescu: the authority of an ephemeral key must be a) contextual and b) not reconstructable.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: won't argue as it's obvious that it'd be fruitless. i can certainly see the viewpoint. "what he pushes == snakeoil" is a strong accusation tho. however, i'm not prepared to provide defence till i'm old, weary, and wise (or at least till i'm old)
Framedragger: concepts not contradictory, you use one as session key, the other to link sessions in terms of authorship / who participates in said sessions. unless you meant something more technical/particular mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: the concepts are contradictory.
mircea_popescu: not entirely clear what the benefit of ~signing~ said ephemeral keys is however
asciilifeform: i will countenance any pretense to the contrary.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: as reflected in the log search, marlinspike is usg asset and infamous pusher of crypto snakeoil.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw the prekey idea is sound, with or without ad hominem
Framedragger: this way one can (in principle) achieve pfs for communications between otherwise offline nodes
Framedragger: in other news, am casually looking into perfect forward secrecy in *asynchronous* communications. this *may* turn out to be relevant for gossipd enthusiasts and connoisseurs in the long run, too. the most simple way appears to be for nodes to generate a bunch of "pre-keys" (halves of ephemeral key exchange), and store/cache them somewhere (obvs signed by their permanent identity key), a la https://whispersystems.org/blog/asynchronous-sec
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: apologies - too much presumption on my part, then!
Framedragger: thestringpuller: yes, fair enough
thestringpuller: Maybe more teen mothers.
thestringpuller: Framedragger: I was being hyperbolic. My point was more that the mass adoption crowd is too stupid to regulate themselves, and as such would like to punish all of Bitcoin.
Framedragger: i would maintain that the socialist set and the doesnt-deserve-bitcoin set are not necessarily mutually exclusive; at least this cannot be known a priori. mp et al. would argue that it can; so be it
shinohai: Better kill yourself then.
Framedragger: thestringpuller: "do people deserve bitcoin?" is this still a non-rhetorical question? :)
Framedragger: vc: cool, and i remember you saying this the first time otherwise wouldn't have done it, just wanted to let you know that these particular scans won't (*completely*) trash the reputation of the currently assigned ipv4 :)
vc: Framedragger: I'm cool with port scans, neither me nor my parent host cares
thestringpuller: "Without any regulation you can't stop a bad actor before they start. They only need to scam people once to make a lot of money.
Framedragger: (gun resume and finish ipv4 open ssh port scans tonight with vc's node (vc: it's randomized ip range scan and only 30 kpackets/s, before you ask), and then deploy ~10 vps nodes for ssh key extraction, feeding port-22-open-list from the former into the latter.)
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/ee36bedf0fca8c0d4ef63d66ba3acf26/tumblr_o0x4tbbm0z1ud7ml4o1_400.gif
Framedragger: vc: yep, all good otherwise !
vc: and some other one
Framedragger: with botched mac addr so shouldnt even reach internet, i think theyre getting dropped at some local router
vc: Framedragger: I have definitely seen waaaaaaay over 10k packets / s on these interfaces so that's not the problem
Framedragger: note, stricly-localhost test gives me much more than that. but test with bogus mac address (so it doesn't hit the actual internet) gives only 10k pps, which is real low. some hardware firewall doing excessive ratelimiting?
Framedragger: vc: just fyi, there appears to be a ~10k packets / second limit somewhere upstream, are you aware of anything of the kind? i'm just running some self-tests (using a program which has its own TCP stack, i.e. no use of kernel networking / sockets). same tests produce at least 10 times as much elsewhere. cpu not the bottleneck. just wondering what it could be
jurov: or just say you want to donate them to foundation and we'll work it out
jurov: you can have them sent to mpex account, too
vc: and if the 140 slots fill up I will purchase the other 144GB memory which is the last possible upgrade for the server
vc: I'm going to have to put like a tutorial on the checkout page
vc: Framedragger: things have been great, users have been fine save for the billions of them that messed up their SSH key
shinohai: Bad news is all the good blow vendors are on tor
mod6: anyway, thanks, we'll talk 'round month end then to get it figured out.
mod6: or, if you'd rather i signed a statement saying such, i can do that when they get distributed.
jurov: sorry, i can't. they are meant to be used strictly for hookers and blow.
mod6: i haven't, yet. but i wrote an article. so i presume they will give me a few.
mod6: Cool jurov, when they are distrbuted (month end?), just hit me up.
Framedragger: vc: thanks for the cockbox! how are things?
shinohai: Scammers love their scams.
mircea_popescu: not substantially different from ethereum itselfd.
thestringpuller: so this is real: https://ethereumpyramid.com/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: ;;later tell BingoBoingo yes i'll gladly help anyone to dispose of their shares ;)
mircea_popescu: in other news, "whosoever withdraws from stupidity thereby becomes its avant-garde."
mircea_popescu: prolly get a million an' a half or some shit for them, too.
mircea_popescu: so here's what i'd do if i were actually running any of the studios :
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://site.baryonyxknife.com/blog/2015/06/22/the-real-douk-douks << quite interesting - re the fella pictured on the ubiquitous french knife.
mircea_popescu: (the cameras were installed in the first place by old woman wanting to know wtf her hens are so fucking noisy at night)
mircea_popescu: in other news, dude caught on surveillance tape fucking hens : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z0VErbh1ek
BingoBoingo: Yeah, either way is cheaper than Demoocracy for sure https://stlouis.craigslist.org/evg/5630776322.html
mircea_popescu: well then i guess more cost.
mircea_popescu: not like i'm doing anything ; there's the antispam thing that's documented in an article ; also the xml-rpc hardening idem documented. that's about it. haven't touched any of it in years.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But at what cognitive cost? Certainly a greater one than simply removing the entirety of the xml-rpc and turds therein.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo trilema works ok with trackbacks, but i guess it's one of the few.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell phf Apparently the motor commune still wants for mechanic https://stlouis.craigslist.org/lbg/5630646192.html
BingoBoingo: Trackbacks between sites were nice while they lasted, but as noted on Trilema this piece of the shitfrasctructure was fired in anger.
BingoBoingo: Prolly, in same way jaded city dweller "listens" to the ambient noise.
mircea_popescu: im sure it still gets the requests
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the defeated hillary will sue trump for "allienation of affection" lmao
shinohai: I thought I was looking at a video of Alabama there for a minute until I saw Chinese writing.
mircea_popescu: basically, writing fiction for their demo.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "looking into" thing is pure ridiculous. the usual fare of gawker, "throw shit at the wall because anyone reading is too stupid to distinguish their mouth and asshole anyway"
asciilifeform: 'The HaoBTC Kangding mine is one the three Bitcoin datacenters that HaoBTC currently operates - as of the time of writing, it generates 33PH hash rate. The miners deployed are Avalon 6 and Bitmain S7s. Here is an unedited walk-through filmed on June 11, 2016.'
shinohai: American public must have shit journalism to read. Not like they care for much else besides sensationalism.
asciilifeform: ^ ~somebody~ is keeping the shitliner afloat
asciilifeform: 'The Wall Street Journal reports Gawker has received a $22million bankruptcy loan to keep the business afloat prior to their sale at auction.'
mircea_popescu: except that works when i do it, and who the fuck is gawker.
mircea_popescu: more like a "we own this land and fuck you" sorta argument, "it's illegal for you to help the people we don't like".
mircea_popescu would much prefer a davout -run liquidation. at least it'd establish the item's true value. which, i suspect, is somewhere south of 80 btc.
mircea_popescu: you can't sue someone FOR THAT roflmao. what's these shits imagine, that they're in power or something ?
shinohai: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636655/Gawker-Media-looks-sue-billionaire-Peter-Thiel-funding-Hulk-Hogan-s-legal-action-s-plunged-debt-report-claims.html <<< the plot thickens?
shinohai: To be fair, they did play a role in wiping out ~60% of Europe's population at one point.
mircea_popescu: the similarity is striking in any case.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's how the original drawings were inspired actually.
hanbot: nah, that's in the horrors we shan't investigate that we may sleep soundly sorta category
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know what happened to the guy who forgot to pay his exorcist bill ?
mircea_popescu: that way if anyone asks me what the cat's name is i'ma say "it's cat ophelia."
mircea_popescu: in other news i've decided that if i ever get a cat i'ma name it ophelia
mod6: all you can do at this point is just drop a link into the notes section, but it needs to scale more than that. thinking about it...
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, agreed. have been thinking about how to incorporate all of the findings thus far.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: oughta somehow incorporate mine and jurov's mega-experiments in the record
tb0t: Project: trb, ID: 3, Type: I, Subject: Further investigate a solution for mem leak/fragmentation, Antecedents: , Notes: An OOM error occurs from mempool tx's that are never deallocated. A well defined and researched plan need to emerge from this investigation.
mod6: %e trb 3 I "Further investigate a solution for mem leak/fragmentation" "An OOM error occurs from mempool tx's that are never deallocated. A well defined and researched plan need to emerge from this investigation."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 'It has been well established that OOM error occurs from bastards not being freed from memory.' << not accurate. bastard tx don't enter the mempool in trb. it is mempool tx that never deallocate...
mircea_popescu: i'd much rather take a new york or san francisco that had a nuke blown overhead ; than the exact same new york or san francisco that had socialist propaganda blown overhead. the former's much easier to clean up than the latter.
mircea_popescu: this process whereby they spread their poison, getting idiots to believe the sort of stupid shit they sprout is the true ecological damage.
mircea_popescu: exactly in the same vein, ecology should cease to mean "the activity of capitalists ruining the earth", and instead properly mean the activity of socialists ruining humanity.
mircea_popescu: specifically "ecology" has historically been a tool of socialists deployed to hinder capitalism, on the flimsy basis of "look how economic activity renders the substrate unfit for later, undefined economic activity".
mircea_popescu: ^ which article incidentally suggests to me a whole large scale recuperation project, much in the way "nigger" used to mean black person but now simply means government leech.
shinohai: Or about the amount you'd make mining with one for 3 days
shinohai: Well guise 21dotco is already the future - 20 satoshi to read temperature: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4njys7/21_an_open_source_library_for_the_machinepayable/d44kqsy
asciilifeform: hunchback - straightens in the grave.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 14:36 mircea_popescu: who the fuck is going to pay the 20 to 50 bn needed to decomission this radioactive waste plant that cost 600mn to build ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is going to pay the 20 to 50 bn needed to decomission this radioactive waste plant that cost 600mn to build ?
mircea_popescu: they know how to bitch about "nuclear reactors" so that the costs to decomission one far, far exceed the cost to build one. well, what about "feminism", human rights and democracy ? MUCH much more toxic than radionuclides.
mircea_popescu: what i want to know is, who's going to take out ~600mn worth of shit these idiots stuck in the head of ignorant imbecile sub-canadians for the past decade ?
mircea_popescu: " Assests are officially estimated to be in the 5o million to 100 million United States dollar range while liabilities are estimated to be in the 100 to 500 million United States dollar range" <<< ahahahaha. right, so they got ~3mn worth of crap and 600mn worth of cc debt.
mod6: ok. i'll think on this, there's something we can do, im sure.
mod6: hey, sorry to interrupt this. but one of my buddies is buying a house downthe road, and i gotta to view it here in like 2 minutes. but i'll be back all day after that.
mircea_popescu: now obviously, we could change it to take dpaste input ? the only snag is, i dunno we want LONG tickets anyway.
mod6: ok, yeah, on the cli version you kind of have tons of space because IRC line isn't a thing.
mod6: and that may be because it didn't see the closing "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point being, there's a short space in the notes for ticket ; can't add too much in there, so it prolly can't be "update tickets with vpatches"
mod6: (like in the notes section and that would give some traceability to who is doing what and who can get blame)
mircea_popescu: there is one problem where any ticket's notes must be shorter than cannonical irc line - trims.
mod6: ok. so what I was thinking, at least for the quick/dirty method was that lord of a project would update tickets with peoples' submitted vpatches linked either from the ML or if/when accepted. doesn't only relate to TRB obv.
mod6: but we're not there yet anyway.
mircea_popescu: the point is, if something should be found not to work properly, gotta know who to chase to fix it and more importantly, who to scrutinize in the future. which system allows us to not even bother with quality control - check your shit, and god help you if downstream keeps having to complain.
mod6: these separate fields can help with sorting and reporting and all that... especially.
mod6: ok sounds good. thought maybe you were thinking about adding a date field. and btw, any of these things can really be added without too much trouble at all if we really find a dire need for them in the future.
mircea_popescu: i'm only importing the sane parts of management.
mod6: in scrum people estimate tickets not based on time, but how "large" they think a story is or might be. and they use fib numbers for this -- typically: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 20
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 should be done BY X. so i know who to chase. << I think if someone wants to put their name on a ticket, ... ok, and they can put a completion date in there.
mircea_popescu: oh i can edit them can't i. yeah ok that should work.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also important, suppose i want to split up a ticket later. what should i do, delete and re-enter ? << so saythat UCI ticket 7 needs to become two seperate tickets and the original didn't capture what it was supposed to capture; i would just make a new ticket, and then edit the existing one to reform what would be or seem correct.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1481012 << when the nice kind fell in price enough and i got a crate ?
mod6: the latter for traceability
mod6: but i was thinking that it would either be removed from the tree, OR, would simply just have something edited in the subject. like "DONE: Blah Blah ticket for something"
mircea_popescu: well, other than that assignment can be informal.
mod6: and the idea of "done" can be a different field.
mod6: mircea_popescu: so during development, i decided not to allow assignment for tickets; i wanted to encourage all to look at tickets and possibly propose solutions or changes to even patches submitted (denoted in the notes section??)
mircea_popescu: shinohai let me guess, phantomcircuit works for them ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 so here's a q : suppose a ticket gets allocated to a name. how does tbot know this ? suppose the name completes the ticket. how's tbot know ?
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'btcde', 'krk', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The golden toilet that had to be. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/10/the-golden-toilet-that-had-to-be/
mod6: ok so for future ref just set no wrap and it should be fine then?
BingoBoingo: mod6: In the future <p> tags are superfluous and what is this thing where you insert superfluous line breaks?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell jurov Sorry for the ambiguity. I mean you could help mod6 with the disposition of his shares.
asciilifeform: (because, i suppose, they were also retarded children??)
asciilifeform: apparently, there is nothing more attractive than ~empty~ swimming pool, if you ask american jurists.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 02:30 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i was at that life stage (yes, it's coming!) then i will have one garage for five cars and another of ~equal size~ for back-up power
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why do you dislike the plates so much?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 02:17 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480214 << now ~that's~ the business. will defo be looking into these at next place (2017 sometime)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480807 << If your generator doesn't have wheels will likely need Electrician to wire/pull permits. Such things can actually be had from big box stores like the Orange Depot
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 02:16 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480202 << ac isn't 'mission critical'. if it goes down for 15 minutes or even 5 hours, you might be a little sweaty and grumpy, but your hard drives aren't so flexible, especially if they get caught mid-write with their pants down (but ianae)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480803 << AC is mission critical for the health of your hard drives
ben_vulpes: figure out? were controls marvelously different from controls of other motorized things?
mircea_popescu: nobody expected 6yo could figure out how to run the thing.
mircea_popescu: this magical item that can charge your credit card to the max, has no duty to protect you (you have a duty to protect him). no fucking wonder every prole aspires to police himself.
asciilifeform: but in - afaik - all of usa, folks who 'cause' the death of policeman by, say, running away and then he crashed his cruiser, are tried for murder.
asciilifeform: ^ the infamous skylight case
asciilifeform: hey, they even had, e.g., http://overlawyered.com/2006/09/the-burglar-and-the-skylight-another-debunking-that-isnt