asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/winblows10.jpg << from a reasonably fresh install. i shit thee not, is what stock install's menu loox like.
mircea_popescu shall be off to lead his virtual armies. which is how one survives on modern "operating system" : by spending all the time inside pre-modern, 1990s era games.
BingoBoingo: AHA, yes. I have seen the Win10 ad machine in a zoo!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i actually got this thing going. you ever played the kb franchise ?
mircea_popescu: vaguely reminds me of the old ibm-pc clone days, when ~nothing worke
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu by nao beat the shit out of asciilifeform's record -- asciilifeform barfed permanently after one time 10min on shituntu
mircea_popescu: most of the fucking processes can't even be brought up by clicking on this derp-ass gui
asciilifeform: this is prolly why most gamez aficionados end up with bona fide winblowz box in the house
mircea_popescu: but i was trying to get king's bounty legends of the north booted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that part doesn't work, of course. and you should see what the glyph engine looks like.
mircea_popescu: steam is not "this big deal gaming published with its own os", it's a pathetic front on a dead flash-wannabe (unity)
asciilifeform: fwiw i never used the icons / faux-winblowz-desktop pheature
mircea_popescu: everything in the shitpile is way less from upclose than it appears / pretends from a distance. EVERYTHING.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i knew, 'wine' worked pretty well... then again, the only thing asciilifeform ever ran in it, was 'ida pro', and with fully decade-old copy of 'wine' by nao
mircea_popescu: this damned thing is almost exactly windows, i dunno why even bother with emulators, should just run win binaries native by now.
mircea_popescu: these are ~unclosable~. in any way.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 16:30 mircea_popescu: i could keep on forever -- old one, had directly accessible screen resolution switcher. new one -- does not, so that if (for instance!) your settlers 4 wine installation fucks the screen leaving it in 800x600 mode upon closure, either you know to xrandr -q xrandr --output --mode directly, or else you reboot.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile continuing the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-19#1918697 nonsense : wine doesn't work worth a shit on the new ubuntu. it never worked splendidly, granted, but it was quite workable last i looked into this half decade ago. it degraded significantly. for instance, after a bunch of installing various, i'm left with a taskbar fulla dead icons. (well, in fairness they bring up a transparent exclamation point in a tria
BingoBoingo: If the aim is fucking with empire, off the shelf fiberglass hulls are prolly the way to go.
asciilifeform: you can't exactly fix the fiberglass by careening it on rando island and with local tree bark.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-31 13:48 asciilifeform: in 1 particular documented case, where boat was raised 7yrs later, they found that an old salt turned valve in wrong direction. fella served on a diff design for a decade, where dir was opposite. he put such strength into 'closing' valve that the handle was bent. rest of crew breathed for 2wks, aside from one who hung self in bed and another who shorted battery with both hands.
asciilifeform: and all of'em had to actually know what they were doing, or -- problem.
asciilifeform: then again mircea_popescu did recount having seen a working one on beach of cr at some pt.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 00:46 asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
asciilifeform: for the cost of just 1 such tub, d00d could live like a duke in e.g. cr, ro, etc. but -- without peacock tail.
BingoBoingo: So they can count patek to rolex ratio and price accordingly
BingoBoingo: Well that's what the next market is. Everyfucking thing goes "price on request"
asciilifeform: hang up the patek philippes as sail riggings.
asciilifeform: send it to pete_d. who is prolly thinking, what to do, after already has solid gold toilet, why not also put it in a floating fiberglass tub the size of a small truck.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: these look quite like the usa prices, i.e. 200-300k dubloons for a tub that won't even sleep 2 people
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So here's an example of new of the local market https://archive.is/soEt8 And here are a few used in ascending price order https://archive.is/DXd03 https://archive.is/yv8KF https://archive.is/HmaEo
mircea_popescu: bureaucrats have other interests, and a very different sense of cool -- hence your horripilated reaction to pete d's internally coherent visions of normality.
mircea_popescu: which is the deep problem here : in socialist economy this class of "i made 20mn being smart" thing no longer exists.
mircea_popescu: whereas the bulk of the subculture was made up of 40 and 50yos, married for 20ish years, well tanned female keeping in shape an' intelligent dude who made his money by being clever.
mircea_popescu: those were more the "corporate" thing. if you had a porn empire or something. berlusconi had one, for all the 14yo african girlies to nudie dip off off.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, the yacht asciilifeform personally took a ride on (for uninteresting saecular biz reasons) was a 1600 h.p. item.
asciilifeform: then indeed 'add a zero' lol
mircea_popescu: thirty years ago. might account for the perceived 0.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the engine still runs by time.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Argentina also gets pissy about letting them dock. In Uruguay welcome mat gets rolled out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: toyota is 2tonne, rather than 2000, and rolls 'without slipping' on dry land, neh.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Argentina shoots at them
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: china is always separate conversation. they dun get hit by pirates either, as it is known that they piss on 'no armed merchants' treaty and have full selection of e.g rpg7 on board
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: From what I understand the chinese commercial fishing vessels tend to not get customs checked with any frequency
asciilifeform: i suspect mircea_popescu missed a 0 in there somewhere, even diesel to cross ocean is prolly >10k naodays
mircea_popescu: "and this way, we don't have to worry about 5 star hotel having no bell hop or misplacing reservations and if we feel like making the 8 weeks 18... well..."
mircea_popescu: but that was the market there, "honey, since we're doing 5k x2 in plane tickets and 3-500 a night in hotel stays for 4 to 8 weeks each year, coming to a 25k or so, we could just pay coupla mil upfront on this piece of machinery that'll resell for maybe mil-mil and a half in five years and cost to own 10k or so a year, taking us just about even"
asciilifeform: as i understand, the world of rich folx 'not in a hurry to anywhere' is gone, yes
mircea_popescu: the yacht-as-it-was-used was a better-alternative-to-airplane+airport-plebcombo. slower (in the good sense -- anyonre recall the "downshifiting" 90s thing ?), not much more expensive (if you travel business class and 5 star hotel, you end up paying for summering in the carribean ~same as the cost to own yacht, give or take), infinitely more pleasant.
asciilifeform: (if could somehow get fiber to the dock..)
asciilifeform: for that merit, imho even crackpot idea of datacenter ~on~ boat, where 'mno, not taxable, these machines are welded to the hull' may have merit
mircea_popescu: the yacht-as-a-place-to-live thing was, whatever, poor village farmhands imagining among themselves a consensus as to how riveters work goes in the big city up on those tall buildings.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: there is the chance, but... boat owning is still privileged somewhat here.
mircea_popescu: the middle class entirely does not exist anymore ; the item is no longer a token for the disused faine, either.
mircea_popescu: from my rock, the whole yacht thing (not a place to LIVE ON, orlol and all, mind) was a specific "token of entry" in a specific, upper-middleclass network.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 00:46 asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
mircea_popescu: ie, not the thing it was. in 1999 we'd have prolly went over for dinner if invited ; in 2019 we'd just chuckle about the shawrmy.
BingoBoingo: Even in the middle west of old country joke was "Happiest days of boat owning are buying the boat and selling the boat"
mircea_popescu: poker is still A thing today ; the problem with it is that wherever you sit down you're gonna run into a buncha pete d's and tired old con men.
BingoBoingo: And yes the Puertito Buceo is rather full looking, but still has room to drop anchor. Another yacht club a few km away closer to capacity.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dug into subj very briefly in usa, and found interesting the diff b/w 'new' and 'gently used', more than tenfold typically
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it stopped being the thing it was ; it's still a thing but more in the sense of the rest of real estate "market" -- beneficial "owners" trying to extricate themselves out of the jam, long lost sight of the benefit or even the usage.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Quite a few boats I suspect are on the whisper market in kinda the same way just about any piece of real estate in the city has a price if you bother to ask.
asciilifeform: ( ...or, is it 'aspirational' a la tlp folx, who sail the sea until 1st leak..? )
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it ~was~ a thing, in the sense poker was a thing, whereby you could meet > a few dozen quite pleasant such folk in the respective haunts, from florida to just about eastern colombia etc, and then on the other side, mostly south of france, italy, greek islands etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov et al were telling the troof, i went and priced, a parking space for standard habitable boat is <1k/mo in most of usa, well under what 'condo downtown' cost
mircea_popescu: buy what's essentially a floating condo for ~same what a condo in downtown metro area costs, spend your time going from yacht club to yacht club. the not-retarded charlie sheens did this, usually with a competent alpha (usually, 20year+wife) to pick the local sluts.
asciilifeform: incidentally, while on subj -- and i did even try to warn pete -- folx who abuse fg as 'collectible stamp' set themselves up for hurt, unlike patek etc thing is quite deliberately designed to be simple to replicate, lacks any form of serial numeration etc, and the only tests are for mechanical correctness, where all units built to spec pass, whether orig by asciilifeform, or by zimbabwe, or martians.
BingoBoingo: I suspect its in the local building code next to asado Fridays at every construction site.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 05:29 phf: my mom had one of those "papa escaped the purges by burning all paperwork but life got tough when they took our governess" piano teachers, who would lament about being forced to teach peasants and brown folk, not on racial grounds as much as "you have to have a bidet in your house for 3 generations, before you can touch a piano"
asciilifeform: '...with the pretty and delightfully well-mannered girls who spoke to their mother in English and their father in what sounded like Flemish – was the crystallised product of – who knows ? – perhaps as many as ten generations of fine breeding...'
asciilifeform: oblig typical pete_d_ism, ftr. 'That simply crossing paths with an aristocratic family in my own backyard...' 'this was the heirloom quality family from TLP’s Patek Philippe ads...' etc
BingoBoingo: Has own airport and yacht port so that crowd can skip Montevideo and the pichis
BingoBoingo: Punta del Este. At least it was for a while. FA may have chased them off.
asciilifeform: perhaps asciilifeform oversaturates the colours, here, but i blame pete_d and his type for the fact that yes you can buy a diamond-encrusted ipnoje for 200k but you cannot buy a fits-in-head comp even for 200mil.
asciilifeform: lolwhere? pretty sure 'sotheby's' is in london.
BingoBoingo: Well, there's ~two week period where center of aesthetowank world is ~90 km east of here
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not the least bit surprised, given overall pattern -- fella won't buy anyffin that can't be easily paraded, exhibited, to other aesthetowankers over tea
asciilifeform: it aint nearly as repulsive as the bob becks who get their 'feels of elite' from sipping clitler's cuntjuice, but still imho equally snore
asciilifeform: quite typical, imho, example of the pathologies described by tlp. 'if i buy this 8th rolex, will finally feel like Troo Elite' etc
asciilifeform: a peacock man. perhaps the peahens find to be interesting, but i admit -- do not
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol, i confess that i mostly stopped reading the d00d
asciilifeform: (production -- dinged, but demand -- through the roof, usg is quite the 'marketing genius' on occasion )
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in contemporary German engineering, vehicle that defaults to pissing off driver on every startup http://www.contravex.com/2019/06/10/a-few-mildly-annoying-things-about-the-w463a-mercedes-g550/#footnote_5_23394
asciilifeform: huawei iron has become somewhat of a 'deficit' in the 'civilized' world
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even ~here~ one has to go to certain places, where the lumpens are found, to see'em.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there ever was quite such a spurious "culture". or w/e we'd call it.
mircea_popescu: which really makes the world a better place.
asciilifeform: where would mircea_popescu even see these.
asciilifeform: y'know, the folx who take up 3 seats on airplane and demand ticket for cost of single seat, etc
asciilifeform: there is also famously an opposite pole of this magnet, the 'professionally fat' folx in usa who also claim to eat <1k/day , while weighing the weight of four men
mircea_popescu: ah btw, you know about the japanese xtian petrification saints ?
mircea_popescu: the anorexia chicks do not.
asciilifeform: rright, but there is no magic in this world, 3k/w is < auschwitz cuisine
mircea_popescu: well, no, they typically weigh 40-50lbs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect ~these~ are like the old 'yoga masters' of india, who claimed to eat nuffin at all
mircea_popescu: hence my earlier point re africans : long after we've stopped sending the packages, they'll still be there in the pavement cracks.
asciilifeform: iirc the infamous bob beck & co, largely work for phree even.
asciilifeform: 'modern linux komyooniti' is quite loyal organ of 'tame opposition', the occasional 20m of biodegradable monopoly money gifted to the occasional esr (who incidentally is begging for change to buy wheelchair, reportedly his legs went) goes long way
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo heh. "mp is scary and therefore safe ; we shall copy on the quiet -- be tedious and therefore also safe".
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 16:02 mircea_popescu: exactly as per http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/ ; "why is this science ? cuz hilary says so. and who the fuck is hilary ? she's the one scientists claim god has anoin^H^H^H^H like very much and agree with"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'beetle man' doesn't work to impress, why would he, clitler personally anointed, see, him with the holy oils
asciilifeform: nao otoh last week i saw a slug that was fully 4x the size of his slugbrethren. nao, ~that~ impressive. but this, what is there to be impressed by.
asciilifeform: or for that matter the old sovok 'union of writers' (tm) etc
asciilifeform: i expect it's structured exactly like other usg.'foundations'
mircea_popescu: and why is he speaking from this position of authority, " I also posted to communicate the timeline ", who the fuck is he, me ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi, prolly the current ian murdoch or whoever
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt: many of the cheap displays bought by typical homo redditus shituntu user, won't even sync at 800x600
asciilifeform: 'We will be working to polish the 32-bit support story over the course of the 19.10 development cycle.'
mircea_popescu: i could keep on forever -- old one, had directly accessible screen resolution switcher. new one -- does not, so that if (for instance!) your settlers 4 wine installation fucks the screen leaving it in 800x600 mode upon closure, either you know to xrandr -q xrandr --output --mode directly, or else you reboot.
asciilifeform: pretty epic limba de lemn in there, too
mircea_popescu: old one has list of crapola installed. new one has list of ~recommended~ crapola, and SEARCH BAR. literally, you're invited to search among the... well, it's not the userland, search returns things you... don't have, indistinctly
asciilifeform could've sworn there was a mircea_popescu piece re 'nechezol'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in another angle : i have here next to each other two modern ubuntus : one modern in 2018 (v 18.04), the other modern about five years prior (v 10.04). the sheer pile of utility and usability loss! old one has "bring up desktop" button. new one does not. old one has taskbar on the bottom, wherein one can drag item to a different task, and the task will pop up (so you can drop a file in a terminal). new one -- doe
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The chain is swapping in a beef identifying bean patty
mircea_popescu: "these are my friends" "they're scumbags" "yes but" "also X" "yes but" "you are forbidden to y" "yes but" and so on ad infinitum.
mircea_popescu: very "sticky" misbehaviour, too, they'll squirm every which way, lie every turn of the ratchet, stick with each single possible aspect to the bitter end.
asciilifeform: (in place of the earlier homogenized scrap-gristle slurry)
asciilifeform: incidentally the old mircea_popescuine prophecy re ersatz-phoods proceeding on schedule, reportedly a mcfood chain has finally swapped in synthetic chicken
mircea_popescu: by now they eat literal dogfood, that's literally called "soylent"
asciilifeform pessimistically observes that laziness is the dominant force, and historically 'sit on arse, eat fruit' is not even limited to tropical monkey men, and much of what today thought 'modern tech' dates to the last 2 population-pressure megawars
BingoBoingo: Well, first they'll wank a bit about pseudo-aesthetic pseudo-ethics and make the pichi life a fad
mircea_popescu: kinda like cockroaches, very resilient. would probably feed on urban garbage / each other's aborted foetuses in any case. god knows they already eat soylent & assorted dogfood machine-delivered.
mircea_popescu: that chick, the hepatitis walflower. present day african, the "maybe i'll be a writer" white female. not even white trash, but "middle class"
asciilifeform: them, however, also
mircea_popescu: go hunting the africans, basically, as principal tropical activty.
asciilifeform: north sea a++ for reactor. (reportedly, the largest ru subs in fact only worked there and nowhere else)
mircea_popescu: i expect once we're done butchering the supernumeraries, we'll mostly hang our about the artic circle
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, the people who figure winter is a factor that allowed Europe to not do the tropical sloth.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the folx with family reactors, i suppose, and a fondness for ski sport
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 15:02 asciilifeform: the 'good climate makes folx lazy and slowly climbing 'back up to trees' ' item is an old saw, but i'm not aware of any major hole in the theory
asciilifeform: i suspect tho, that if there actually ~were~ 500k, would get exactly what went on the last time there were 500k, all hang out on equator and eat from trees, indistinguishable from monkey
asciilifeform: [insert the robots thread here]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's exactly 0 connection between the 99% and any productive activty. in fact, you need about 500k or so people to run the entire world as it now stands
mircea_popescu: exactly as per http://trilema.com/2013/what-is-art/ ; "why is this science ? cuz hilary says so. and who the fuck is hilary ? she's the one scientists claim god has anoin^H^H^H^H like very much and agree with"
asciilifeform: ( with the interesting twist that church, at least, presided over quite a bit of productive lands / serfs, whereas 'scientocrat' presides over... what? cube farm fulla monkeys on 'powerpoint' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik was simple plug-in replacement for the old relation b/w the royalty and the church
mircea_popescu: ie, "let's lie prettily to each other -- you, call us scientists notwithstanding we're social cases, like any other ghetto queen ( with just as absent child rearing skills) ; we call you rational notwithstanding you're fucked in the head"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, this is very transparently the aim here : "supporting social policy" on "science", as the necessary v2.0 of "supporting sorta-science financially through some bureaucratic process".
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 11:11 mircea_popescu: back in 2010ish, some derps from us academia came with "proof" of the (at the time still called) global warming nonsense, in the shape of a much-loved-bymedia "golf cross pattern".
mircea_popescu: except for the fact pierce never proposed supporting "global warming" and its ilk of nonsense on "massaged data" in the sense of "the golf club pattern-maker, put any data you wish in, see the same thing come out". nor would he have.
mircea_popescu: curate than individual measurements. Durday-to-day learners from error know this fact but. to my knowledge. the only philosopher to attach deep significance to this seli—cortecting ability is C. 5. Peirce."
mircea_popescu: "Herein lies a presupposition commonly harbored by philosophers: namely. that empirical claims are only as reliable as the data from which they are inferred. The fact is that we can often arrive at rather accurate claims from far less accurate ones. Scattered measurements, for example, are not of much use, but with a little data massaging (e.g.. averaging) we can obtain a value of a quantity of interest that is far more ac
mircea_popescu: anyway, mayo chick's totally worth a skipread, in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-02#1916737 sense. " We can put together so potent an arsenal for unearthing a given error that when we fail to find it we have excellent grounds for concluding that the error is absent." and so on and on and forever .
mircea_popescu: but at least they got the willy wonka / warhol hairdo going. i mean... i guess it's something. right ? very weird hair ? grows from head ? in limine, intellectual production ? no ?
mircea_popescu: , and obviously a perfect candidate for the same fate.
mircea_popescu: other than repurposed cat growers / arts & crafts poets, the foremost female on the list (at #9) is http://www.profnancycartwright.com/ ; as contemptible a piece of pantsuit shit / femstate "architect" as could be ever found. replete with all the makings of a typical macauley
mircea_popescu: and cornell's a notorious lolcow farm. and i don't teach HTWAWAOTSWCLR 101, thus "We learn from our mistakes. Few would take issue with this disctum. If it is more than merely a cliche, then it wouldseem of interest to epistemologists to inquire how knowledge is obtained from mistakes or from error." results in 62. Nicholas Rescher loses to Rudolf Carnap by 140–8, loses to Deborah Mayo by 38–27 Alan Musgrave loses to
BingoBoingo: Ah, the sidebar gives it away. It is a Brian Leiter production.
BingoBoingo: Quite the lol-list
mircea_popescu: dumbass cuntlet wouldn't qualify for my introductory course on "how to write academic work as opposed to spinning wikipedia content like retards" at the night tradeschool for economically disadvantaged youths.
mircea_popescu: if popper's a philosopher, thus therefore so are both r. feyman and that russian fellow who said "fuck you, who the fuck are you to give me awards, nitwits". much more of a philosopher (in the sartre-ian tradition) than whatever Deborah Mayo, this Audre Lorde professor emeritus of Women Can Add Too (if you don't rush them or say the mean about the buttock fats)
mircea_popescu: then there's the problem of "anglophone". by such criteria as could be insanely reconstructed from the piled remains, naggum would qualify ; and then he has to be on the list.
mircea_popescu: well, karl popper / thomas khun. tho they're philosophers in a very dubous sense, kuhn's a sociologist and popper's a historian of science.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 10:07 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other random lulz, https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_81c68ea1c38fe926
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-19#1918597 << list seems to consist of a handful of... germans, + buncha 'whothefuck are these'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! asciilifeform could not even immediately think of 'english philosopher of 20th c' other than b. russel !
mircea_popescu: sorta like a bayes for the femtards & assorted pantsuits that don't like systems of equations.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, dude (carnap i mean) is probably the thing all the g. supran subhumans perceive as their "truly truthiful undergirth", genuinely academic and intellectual because not-from-america and-we-dont-talk-about-that etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, obscure russel downstream, "anglophone" in the sense of being german, totally on the list.
mircea_popescu: russel, not on the list (presumably because "not since 1945", notwithstanding legitimacy vs industrialism was 60s, iirc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other random lulz, https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_81c68ea1c38fe926
asciilifeform: there's nearly 200gram of fly, i think, nao
asciilifeform: water, great. but what use for e.g. that jar of flies asciilifeform has hanging on balcony. (y'know, the kind with funnel and jam, 1way valve).
mircea_popescu: eh, good for. there's no intrinsic utility to natural phenomena. what's water molecule good for ? it bangs around back and forth, what good.
mircea_popescu: the batallion ?
asciilifeform: i recall this. also another oddity, it wouldn't insert anyffin
mircea_popescu: i suspect this might've been one of the candidates that didn't make it for... recall i was auditioning for whores to do some reading or the other at some point ? ended up with this high energy brunette
asciilifeform: pretty odd photo, imho, loox almost as if the tits were in place of cuntlips somehow
mircea_popescu: a right, wouldn't write on them or something, i dun recall. might've been one of the earliest
asciilifeform: aaha, there we go.
mircea_popescu: was this the indian whore / starlet ?
BingoBoingo: Aite, some sort of cyclone is supposed to hit here tonight. Alerta Naranja to the west, but only Alerta Amarilla here in the city. Advertised wind speeds aren't anything impressive by Midwest standards, but figured I'd offer notice. Not often that the supermarket lines are this long during the middle of the month.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-17 23:04 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz: Linux >= 2.6.29... ... A sequence of SACKs may be crafted such that one can trigger an integer overflow, leading to a kernel panic i.e. 'packet'o'death'.
asciilifeform believe or not, did not see the film in q
mircea_popescu: this is how these films usually start.
mircea_popescu: i guess the logical summation of this would be that we all sit down and make a pact
asciilifeform: looked in log, and not found any report of the askers
mircea_popescu: it dweebed away once it became clear it's one of those things with talking to girls in them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did nobody answer the req ? or not even got as far as anyone asking
mircea_popescu: and no, i am not AT ALL happy about it. quite the opposite, in fact.
mircea_popescu: entirely 0 human beings available, if counting by the criteria of "capable of getting a ircd federated by ANY other network"
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz: Linux >= 2.6.29... ... A sequence of SACKs may be crafted such that one can trigger an integer overflow, leading to a kernel panic i.e. 'packet'o'death'.
asciilifeform: '[global notice] Hi all. We'll be restarting services in 5 minutes' << what btw happened to the 'migrate from fleanode' proj ?
BingoBoingo: Numerals aren't always the best way to view certain qualities of numbers
asciilifeform: 'naked eye' fooled by 'looks random!111', whereas process that actually gotta walk the solution space uniformly -- not.
asciilifeform always found it interesting that e.g. evolved nn sim, and many other related problems, work pretty well as distinguishing litmus for prngism vs trng
asciilifeform: incidentally imho for almost any non-crypto application like the above, the FG 1GB demo turd would prolly suffice with plenty left over
mircea_popescu: the current crop's motivation.
asciilifeform: pretty obv what the current crop's motivation is, tho.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:15 asciilifeform: and 'Ian Clarke is the founder and coordinator of the Freenet Project...' << single-handed judas goat and jailer of who knows how many idjits who thought they were 'communicating seekoorely'
mircea_popescu: indeed it was ; and so it did ; and woe and sadness upon the half men riding their half-measured rabbits to battle.
asciilifeform: it's an actual problem, and incidentally was quite obv. even prior, in ye olde warez-apocalypse days. simply happens that all the would-be 'solvers' gabriel_laddelized their 'solutions'
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform is satisfied that the only final pill against http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-17#1918482 is 'gossip' net, approx. as pictured in mircea_popescu's piece & accomp. thrds.
asciilifeform: this is tru, i dun have a perfect circle on my desk either
asciilifeform: i dunno where exists this frictionless horse, the market with no entry cost. at the very least one needs working legs (or , in mechanized market, a working comp & net pipe ) neh
asciilifeform: dunno re 'not market' tho, plenty of market require substantial ticket to get in (very same mpex, or the old nasdaq et al etc)
hanbot: mircea_popescu, zero mention of btc anywhere on paxum.com. there's pax*ful*, i guess. for some reason lists market price at a 9% discount, iono what kind of "market" it can be.
mircea_popescu: WHATEVER IT IS, you can only have a market if you control the city.
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense. "idempotent" my foot. if it has a domain name, it has a domain name. if it has an ip instead, has an ip. if it uses a dns round robin, now there's the dns.
asciilifeform: only in the sense that e.g. a concrete, particular electron is 'centralized'. but it is readily idempotent with other electrons. and simple board that does 0 moderation or faux-wotism is similarly idempotent.
mircea_popescu: and now ~that board~ is a readily available avenue of attack for the sort of morons who are threatened by naked women, slavery, nigger inferiority, what have you. as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/
asciilifeform: that was the meaning of 'centralized' contemplated by asciilifeform
asciilifeform: imho there's nuffin wrong with a board where folx post 'will buy', 'will sell', etc. problem starts when board operator purports to substitute own hands for users' correct use of wot
mircea_popescu: market is, definitionally, where demand and supply ~come together~
asciilifeform: hanbot: i suspect that the entire idea of centralized bulletin board for 'buy & sell coin' is as intrinsically usgistic as that of a gox (i.e. centralized coin/fiat exchange). it makes for an irresistible target, and is why all to date eventually were killed & replaced w/ honeypot taxidermy of self
mircea_popescu: hanbot, really ? they were making a big deal about trying to benefit from localbitcoin closure
a111: Logged on 2019-06-17 05:49 mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, punchline of the last one is that the worst sites in the US aren't on the list because USG.MIL
BingoBoingo: Throwing out how the world appears to work as I understand it for the readers because I have the good fortune of having good reader who can rattle me closer to correctness if I am too far off
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fixed. trishophood would be some ways out. The last dozen few month's blog posts are mostly thought and note organization.
diana_coman: the church of Bingo Boingo doesn't even sound bad at all
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in #harem news, tangle (tm) wrist-bound but otherwise nude raver girlies make for a pretty... well, interior decoration, how shall we put this.
mircea_popescu: in light of the marked tendency of your last dozen or so articles, is it the case you're sorta training in the corner for a trishophood ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways the Uruguayos did demonstrate they are not as fucked as the Argentines by at least an order of magnitude, maybe two or three will be demonstrated by July first
mircea_popescu: too bad slavery's no longer the default resolution of tort.
BingoBoingo: Deeper investigation after the Qntra on the subject turned up the interconnect station that shat the bed was taking input from the Salto Grande Uruguay and Argentina share the frame of in addition to the big Paraguay dam
mircea_popescu: yeah, the more modern, mroe efficient dam gear squeezes that extra % at the cost of all sorts of intolerances. you can't run a dam on no load
BingoBoingo: 1860s all over again except triple alliance is Brazil and the two guays against Deptitina
BingoBoingo: If Argentina's fuckery took Paraguay's dam out of sync and damaged anything there aren't enough turkeys over there to resolve that tort
mircea_popescu: should never have been permitted to exist in the first place, unseemly fucking abscess on the butt of the world.
mircea_popescu genuinely hopes argentina altogether fucking ends, both in aggregate and in all individual components.
mircea_popescu: they can do whatever it is they do without. without power, without anything else. in fact -- they could do whatever it is they do just as well without existing at all.
BingoBoingo: Especially not since their are importing luz to run resistive heaters that don't do SHA-256
mircea_popescu: electric power or any other kind of power.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely nothing argentina needs power FOR
BingoBoingo: What is more dificult to discern is whether Argentina is restoring their power and how quickly
mircea_popescu: alrighty then!
BingoBoingo: Within 8 hours, most of Uruguay had power restored. Apparently across the river that was not the case
mircea_popescu: trinque, hey, were you gonna do something about that count so it's not lifetime but "currently active" ? or where was the discussion left at