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ben_vulpes shudders
ben_vulpes: "Earnings will now be hurt by “sharply lower” sales of corporate jets powered by Rolls engines, together with a more sluggish maintenance market both for those aircraft and bigger regional jets"
ben_vulpes: what's wrong with firebombing?
ben_vulpes: "The newcomer cut full-year forecasts, halted a share buyback and said 2016 numbers would be hurt by slowing sales of engines for smaller aircraft and ships that serve the beleaguered offshore oil industry."
ben_vulpes: it's subtle but i thought i saw it
ben_vulpes: "welcome refugees from syria with open arms!"
ben_vulpes: "how do we keep terrorists out?"
ben_vulpes: yo so was it $epithet in paris or what?
ben_vulpes: davout: you still alive?
ben_vulpes: sassafras
ben_vulpes: ah, the poverty of my generation.
ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panda-Small-Mini-Dryer-5-5lbs-2-5kg-Compact-Apartment-Dryer-Pan725sf-New-/301640663755?hash=item463b2f42cb:g:aYoAAOSweW5VXhZa << breakeven with the "on site" quarter-driven driver is some 173 loads, minus the value of being able to dry infantwear on demand.
ben_vulpes: !up moneycat
ben_vulpes: is that dosser around still?
ben_vulpes: !up whaack
ben_vulpes: whaack: your alma mater's ip is leaking
ben_vulpes: no just the retarded bits
ben_vulpes: > nuchal translucency -- 366.00
ben_vulpes: ty, asciilifeform! when you get around to it, please please please let me know in which ways i could improve it, or if there are mega-conceptual shifts i could effect within myself to do it better next time.
ben_vulpes: insurance company is covering like 5 days in the hospital
ben_vulpes: wonder of wonders
ben_vulpes: i've included some barebones instructions on how to set up a cl for testing, shinohai.
ben_vulpes: (in the spirit of showing things around before posting to the ml)
ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg
ben_vulpes: sure so barter them to the guy down the road with hogs
ben_vulpes: dry and mill, but yes.
ben_vulpes: see mircea_popescu's comment re pigs
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out.
ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.
ben_vulpes: if we're talking about bad ideas.
ben_vulpes: i want to use acorns for a calorie base.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: on the topic of food for 2016, your tmsr~ work is splendid portfolio material. i'm sure you're aware and will object that "but it doesn't help me eat today!".
ben_vulpes: i prefer the kandaharis in kandahar, tyvm.
ben_vulpes: a wasp, a wasp, my 401k for a wasp
ben_vulpes does not in2 russian
ben_vulpes: and yes, coke machine, still in usaschwitz, lizard hitler will never allow a defense attorney etc etc
ben_vulpes: you don't recall the "have assets seized, be in wot get recompensated" deed?
ben_vulpes is too uncaffinated yet to even dig up mircea_popescu's insurance policy
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: "On iOS 9.1, Safari tries to support this, but it is dreadfully buggy. Instead of paging down just less than one screen-height of content, it pages down about 1.5 screen-heights of content." << continuing the "apple can't make usable software" thread
ben_vulpes: "First, when the iPad Pro is open with the keyboard attached, holding your arm up to touch the screen for anything longer than a moment or two is ergonomically uncomfortable. " << fucking duh, your arm wears out. human factors research on the shop floor demonstrated this decades ago, but does the american tech industry know or give a shit? ahahaha don't make me choke
ben_vulpes: rip steve
ben_vulpes: http://daringfireball.net/2015/11/the_ipad_pro#fnr1-2015-11-11 << as predicted, apple is pushing tablets as their new compute station
ben_vulpes: if you're feeling adventurous you could try installing gabriel_laddel's masamune and then scream into the log about gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: have you taken mod6 or asciilifeform's 'v' for a spin yet?
ben_vulpes: good morning whaack
ben_vulpes: ahaha why am i looking at this
ben_vulpes: "live hacking fun!"
ben_vulpes: website is marvelous
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo's infosec link.
ben_vulpes: good ol' specificity of diddling.
ben_vulpes: > Large attack surface that relies on a quickly-built custom application.
ben_vulpes: > Con
ben_vulpes: > Building a security team. Runs up-to-date software.
ben_vulpes: > Pro
ben_vulpes: > Requires HTTPS
ben_vulpes: > Pro
ben_vulpes: and i'm talking about capital allocation, not fashion.
ben_vulpes: maersk is a big ticket. a car is a car.
ben_vulpes: "oh, you want a 911? hm okay."
ben_vulpes: sure, but your particular setup is not particularly representative last i checked and i checked etc etc
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "last i checked, and i actually checked", but no citation?
ben_vulpes: at risk of giving away crown jewelz, archiving without indexing for search is mind-bogglingly stupid.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: appears to dump archives into archive.org
ben_vulpes: yech.
ben_vulpes: good shit.
ben_vulpes: haxe really?
ben_vulpes: while nobody in the wot's issued fatwa against ruby yet, it doth loom.
ben_vulpes: punkman: good to know i'm not the only one thinking about this
ben_vulpes: may all of you involved in the appfolio scam dance for venture capitalists for the rest of your lives. may your children emerge from college bearing hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. may your development teams never accomplish anything, and may you never know the reason why. may your lives complete devoid of meaning, wasting away in poverty and ignominy.
ben_vulpes: in particular re jon walker of appfolio, adjunct professorship is not a resume bullet. "multiple patents" under the auspices of the usg is not a resume bullet. you had a single job: shipping software that worked, and you failed. you failed spectacularly.
ben_vulpes: and particularly you, jon walker of appfolio, you miserable rails-propping, giving-no-shits-about-customer-banking, are all hereby fucking fired from having any future relevance.
ben_vulpes: klaus schauser, idem
ben_vulpes: brian donahoo, of the "gotomeeting" bitcoin virus
ben_vulpes: but they will drop your regularly scheduled rent payment with no fucking notice
ben_vulpes: not only do they have multiple login paths, some of which do not work and return entirely useless error messages
ben_vulpes: a half-baked rails app pretending to be able to do things like manage billing and maintenance requests
ben_vulpes: in other news, appfolio is a giant steaming pile of horseshit
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-4-2015 << somewhere in there perhaps? i have nfi.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: good afternoon to you as well
ben_vulpes: i've not touched blocks yet.
ben_vulpes: ah, blocks under the hood
ben_vulpes: interpolated?
ben_vulpes: exactly.
ben_vulpes: (loop named foo ... (loop named bar ... (return-from foo thinger))
ben_vulpes: the else thing just threw me.
ben_vulpes: yeah, using variables.
ben_vulpes: related: mod6 and asciilifeform's v implementations.
ben_vulpes: it's an interesting gem demonstrating how the design of a language determines how people think about solving problems in it.
ben_vulpes: i just discovered named loops and returning from inner loops to arbitrary outer loops and am just startled at this particular codification of the pattern.
ben_vulpes: looks like ad hoc implementation of common use cases with arbitrary language features to me, but i've also spent a bit of time with the loop macro lately
ben_vulpes: but that's inside out!
ben_vulpes: oh i get it now.
ben_vulpes: what the shit
ben_vulpes: today i learned that one can else in a for in python
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what kind of os would one run on that kind of hardware? old 'nixy' things?
ben_vulpes: funny, i was just having a conversation with ladybird about how "teh h0rr0r" of the holocaust (mostly concentration camps) is the entirety of what americans are taught about wwii and hitler and de and politics of the time generally. another instance of "stealing the having been stolen from".
ben_vulpes: whoo hoo hoo
ben_vulpes: "In each case, I was not the instigator, only the one who fought back. But being unapologetically white and male worked against me in every case."
ben_vulpes: how'd you pull that out, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: phillips exeter, y'say?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably just trying to wind mircea_popescu up on other avenues
ben_vulpes: adlai: vV? MMM? vJ?
ben_vulpes: quite the block, that citation.
ben_vulpes: anyone writing contracts mentioning tmsr~ without being in the wot's looking for a paddlin
ben_vulpes: haha bb you kill me
ben_vulpes: > actual compensation
ben_vulpes: oh content thyself with not living in this insanely litigious 'soi-disant' state
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: once or twice a year i get a check for $10 or so from them.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: contrary to popular opinion i don't need much educating on the satanicity of wwwwork
ben_vulpes quite pleased with the morning gifselection
ben_vulpes: such ire
ben_vulpes: maybe the appendix
ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils"
ben_vulpes waves from the small and unimportant parts
ben_vulpes: "they're white! you're black! what else do you need?!"
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: movie43 has a bit on that as well.
ben_vulpes: hah! the lengths to which some people will go.
ben_vulpes: hanbot: quite well; got some 4 hours of solid work done this am with a snoozing and cooing baby upon my chest. yourself?
ben_vulpes: bueno tmsr~ day, all
ben_vulpes: hola hanbot
ben_vulpes: jurov: sounds like san francisco
ben_vulpes: it's one of the few wobbly pillars left supporting facebook.
ben_vulpes: who owns tinder?
ben_vulpes: that hand is facing the wrong direction
ben_vulpes not terrifically vested in this, but would like to apply extant tooling to next step with minimal hassle.
ben_vulpes: unixtime,handle,message ?
ben_vulpes: perhaps a logcsv if we cannot have logsqldump?
ben_vulpes: i would rather not parse them back into something rdbms-friendly.
ben_vulpes: sql format is rather handy, i must say.
ben_vulpes has been bothering kakobrekla for logdumps lately
ben_vulpes: jets by any other name would smell as rank
ben_vulpes went to see one employee's exhibition fight, walked away staggering under a load of psychoactive gifts from other employees
ben_vulpes: oh, now we like to compete in crowded markets?
ben_vulpes: bong amplifies existential dread
ben_vulpes tempted to drink already.
ben_vulpes: sounds a lot like "don't work with people outside of your wot" to me.
ben_vulpes: why'd he have to hire invalids?
ben_vulpes: who became the new 'owners'?
ben_vulpes: i am actually pondering approaches to collectivize the thing ahead of the horde.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha!
ben_vulpes: yes, shielding assets is hard and not for everyone.
ben_vulpes: if your wages are subject to garnishment you *are* unter.
ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed"
ben_vulpes: more of a tool of wives and mothers than the state and snitches though, isn't it?
ben_vulpes: and truly stupid (sort of) monied.
ben_vulpes: eh, only of the untermenschen.
ben_vulpes: the west may have been brought under dominion of the feds with marriage laws, but the whole country is dominated by CPS.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this was a decade or three ago.
ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
ben_vulpes: wrapped up, bundled, swaddled, generally speaking insulated from the cold.
ben_vulpes: "this is worse than russia! even kgb would not take children...my wife will never go along..."
ben_vulpes: "you don't understand. they. will. take. your. children."
ben_vulpes: "child was completely wrapped! not a big deal!"
ben_vulpes: "oh, they'll take your children away if you don't conform to us norms."
ben_vulpes: so my father managed a gentleman who'd moved from the soviet block many years ago. the man walks into my fathers office one day, asks for some privacy to talk about american things. "in odessa, we put children out to nap. cold air, is good for little lungs! anyways," hands my father a letter, "what is this 'child protective services?"
ben_vulpes: our conversation the other night. "wot suggests i..."
ben_vulpes: anything touching the request/response cycle? apis etc?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what, by the way do you mean by "web work"?
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
ben_vulpes: more like iphone 4s with ios 9
ben_vulpes: how does the ipud figure into this?
ben_vulpes: yes yes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: they have their place. i find it convenient to have tests when rewriting large swaths of a thing either i've written: with the behavior codified, i don't have to manually poke at the thing to ensure that it still behaves the way it did before i tore it apart and put it back together.
ben_vulpes: i think you may have even cited that before
ben_vulpes: "my only job around here is to scowl loudly at bad commits and demand more tests" - $bzprtnr
ben_vulpes: WRITE MOAR TESTS
ben_vulpes: TESTS
ben_vulpes: (but you know they're weird and perverted etc)
ben_vulpes: some girls wanna hear it!
ben_vulpes: mod6: i see
ben_vulpes has just rediscovered that gpg doesn't handle filename wildcards gracefully or at all
ben_vulpes: mod6: why does it fail with versions under 5.12?
ben_vulpes: right you are, punkman.
ben_vulpes: --batch --verify it is then, shitgnomes.
ben_vulpes: thank you punkman
ben_vulpes rubs face
ben_vulpes: go, `mkdir /tmp/badsigs/; touch /tmp/badsigs/{1,2,3}.sig; gpg --verify-files /tmp/badsigs/*`
ben_vulpes: wondering if pebkac or with maintainers.
ben_vulpes: fails silently, returns 0, the whole nine.
ben_vulpes: punkman: i know about --batch, but this --verify-files flag in the man pages seems to not work. at all.
ben_vulpes: has anyone ever used --verify-files with gpg successfully?
ben_vulpes has been waiting for this particular old tomato for some time
ben_vulpes: dafuq do you breathe, anyways.
ben_vulpes: but then the money's not in the bank anymore!
ben_vulpes: go, complete.
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: there's an old thread around the shop: "ain't nobody motivated by money in the bank"
ben_vulpes: doesn't necessarily mean it's -ev to advertise, just that someone else is deriving value from your media buys as well.
ben_vulpes: so you've captured the value. bitcoin survives, and you benefit from its survival. so do other people, but when you advertise you also pay for people to learn about the solutionspace in general, including your competition.
ben_vulpes: what is the value of a put on facebook expiring 5 years from now?
ben_vulpes: while noble, i do not see much turkey-buying value in pogoquest.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: 'value of ideas'?
ben_vulpes: no i know. but i'm asking you another question of value.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's more valuable: a honed and tidied 'v' implementation or several different implementations from wotmembers?
ben_vulpes: separate the doing of it from the thinking up of the it to do.
ben_vulpes: "ah fuckit, get out of my way, i'll do it in a tenth the time and it'll be twice as good."
ben_vulpes: high performance individuals can hobble a team like this.
ben_vulpes: nifty, phf.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: chicken cannot learn from its mistakes.
ben_vulpes: right.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field is the proud owner of some equitytoiletpaper?
ben_vulpes: well, "free". bird is fed.
ben_vulpes: what the ever loving fuck is this mkerrorcodes.awk
ben_vulpes: in the sense of grown to be eaten?
ben_vulpes: not in the slightest.
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ben_vulpes: !t m s.qntr
ben_vulpes: !t m s.nsa
ben_vulpes: !t s.nsa
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: I don't follow. again, as though I were five?
ben_vulpes: then then then
ben_vulpes: are you then asking what the value of 'v' is to me, then?
ben_vulpes: well, what is the value of bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: possibly unvaluable and invaluable
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any "v", your "v" or "v" in the abstract?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: don't mind me, i'm just trying to learn the violin.
ben_vulpes fails to find the logline wherein asciilifeform claims that common lisp packages "tend to work unlike in other languages"
ben_vulpes: aha libgpg-error i guess, derp.
ben_vulpes: phf: where's a sane place from which to procure gpg-error? i've found some text files scattered about the web but nothing in the gpgme lang/cl dir
ben_vulpes: and googOS?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for log readers only, this confession.
ben_vulpes: do consider the improvement in the serf's quality of life when biking (or walking!) thirty minutes to and fro the galley each day, compared to the hour in the wheelbox each direction that can be had in other places, composed with the shorter work week that is possible.
ben_vulpes: this provides for some small amount of thinking time.
ben_vulpes: culture out here is such that you can skirt by for ~30/wk and a relatively cheap commute, with no "lifetime commitment".
ben_vulpes: if you want intros to indenturitude, i can provide this as well.
ben_vulpes: if i find anything, i'll let you know
ben_vulpes is unsure if this is wankery or pricing exercise
ben_vulpes: it is purpose designed, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: !s bezzlecorp
ben_vulpes: port natoblock $thing, sure.
ben_vulpes: also worth mentioning that gracefully handling rapidly shifting requirements is core to how the business operates.
ben_vulpes: much like picking up chixx, it's easier if you have a few in tow already.
ben_vulpes: operating as a corporation rather than an individual has benefits like that.
ben_vulpes: d'you know? i only landed my first of those within the past month.
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