mircea_popescu: yes "smart" ads etc are not smart nor useful nor productive. yes the whole "online marketing" "community" absolutely must be taken to concentration camp for a month, beaten daily, then sent to cut salt and carry tank barrels.
mircea_popescu: "I bet if you went to a client and presented a 200 kilobyte site template, youd be fired. Even if it looked great and somehow included all the tracking and ads and social media crap they insisted on putting in. Its just so far out of the realm of the imaginable at this point. " <<->> curl 'http://trilema.com' --silent --write-out 'size_download=%{size_download}\n' --output /dev/null
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: remarkably, one of the better summaries of the etherape comes from... greek! http://www.bitcoin-gr.org/?p=5351
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Rashi and the Big Data time machine. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/19/rashi-and-the-big-data-time-machine/
BingoBoingo: And Trump makes he other news http://epmonthly.com/article/72-year-old-need-c-spine-clearance-fall/
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, https://opensource.org/definition/ << check out the churchly shit! "no discrimination" etc.
mircea_popescu: and in other social media news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/994023618e9d04441209f7233afebd83/tumblr_nmqq4e985E1t0itrxo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: what other burbulations quietly fester in orcish heads, i wonder.
asciilifeform: the next morning, commander tours the base, says to sergeant: 'everything seems ok, but what is this nonsense, they showed me the scrapyard and your men threw out a perfectly fine burbulator!!!'
asciilifeform: sergeant: 'motherfucker. you ruined a bucket. throw it into the skip and go clean latrine for the rest of the month.'
asciilifeform: soldier punched hole in a bucket, with nail, and said to sergeant: 'look, my brilliant invention: the burbulator. see, i pour in water, it burbles.'
mircea_popescu: perhaps also of interest, http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/the-last-psychiatrist-and-narcissism.1204561/
asciilifeform: i recall the burbuja distinctly.
mircea_popescu: in somewhat other lulz, http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/burbuja-inmobiliaria/709069-hilo-oficial-del-bitcoin-ix-ahora-mas-burbujas-357.html
asciilifeform: so they won't arc.
asciilifeform: ^ snipped that was Officially Proscribed in the modern liturgy
asciilifeform: And ordered their estate.
asciilifeform: He made them, high or lowly,
asciilifeform: The poor man at his gate,
asciilifeform: The rich man in his castle,
mircea_popescu: sigh, ima have to read the fucking telegraph to try and guess wha you mean ?
asciilifeform: as in the infamous church of england hymn, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3668059/The-story-behind-the-hymn.html
asciilifeform: normally we mention the christians as a socialist rot, but there was also the component of caste / 'dielectric insulator'
mircea_popescu: except, they charitize correcly : the giver as the sole arbiter of the degree, kind and type of want.
asciilifeform: like the hunt party.
mircea_popescu: but in that laboratory setting, they still live as humans, and display human behaviours, such as charity.
asciilifeform: you will find that most folks distribute their walmartola quite equitably, from their own pov
mircea_popescu: obviously they all live on walmartola.
mircea_popescu: ie, when a black person gives something to another black person.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i perhaps confusingly, meant their own subjective thing, did not mean the bulk of it.
mircea_popescu: much like the dope dealing black people in ghetto do today.
mircea_popescu: the jews possibly did, but only under pressure from russian crown.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think the english had at any point decentralized charity.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one point easily missed is that ~the one in need~ is no arbiter of the type, degree and kind of his need! the one GIVING is the sole fucking arbiter as to what the needy needs, when and how much of it.
asciilifeform: this is tricky to get wholly right; consider, the english had ~decentralized charity, but it was plugged into a quite centralized church.
mircea_popescu: in fact, if the poor complain that charity as-is is insufficient, you're a thousand times better off simply burning them all down than trying to "optimize" it.
mircea_popescu: anything else is acceptable, raping infants, eating your wife, whatever the fuck. but DO NOT centralize charity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't that one wants the poor to necessarily starve. the point however is that charity may not be centralised.
asciilifeform: interestingly the only wholly alternate ~stable~ solution to same puzzle i know of is... the castes of india
mircea_popescu: denying the crap is, at least to my eyes, just as important if not more important than bitcoining.
mircea_popescu: it tends to raise taxes slowly, until in a century or a millenium they reach the 20%ish threshold and then the whole thing's fucked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the insidiousness of christianity, as a jewish sect, is the whole "must take care of the poor" thing.
asciilifeform: (none, note, 'independent', then or now)
asciilifeform: there are still, iirc, even, a few eskimos.
mircea_popescu: sometimes they shamble on, like teh chinese for instance. i suspect the us is headed that way also.
asciilifeform: so they die
asciilifeform: 'best known fact re empires is that they pop
mircea_popescu: there's nothing in between.
mircea_popescu: there's quite an uncanny valley between the 60-80%ish of the "civilised world" and the 5-15% of the rest.
asciilifeform: aha, the space isn't flat
mircea_popescu: there's no 49% discussed here.
asciilifeform: i suppose this is sorta like BingoBoingo's 'morbid obesity' - 49+% still 'obeast' but has not tipped the scale, no
mircea_popescu: almost all subhuman congregations of the mongoloids in the pacific islands qualify throughout. and the similarly subhuman aztecs qualify. and most of the north american tribes.
mircea_popescu: china qualifies about half the time, in spurts.
mircea_popescu: in any case : a marginally acceptable definition of "palace economy" is : tax over 50% of gdp. by this rule the usg, eu etc qualify. nothing else in the world does.
mircea_popescu: that's not a criteria. you don't sow either.
mircea_popescu: no king ever told them who to elect, for instance.
asciilifeform: in the sense that it was full of a buncha blokes who didn't sow or reap.
mircea_popescu: not so. it was on the contrary, quite autonomous thing.
mircea_popescu: anyway. you'll have A LOT of trouble proving 1800s england was a "palatial economy". tax was ~inexistent at the time.
asciilifeform: (partly on account of their complicated 'isolate these folks from all reality', partly because they did not simultaneously pursue artillery...)
asciilifeform: where, at one point, they pretty much derived elementary differential calculus.
asciilifeform: jp shinto temples apparently had peculiar quasimathematical ritual
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact still remains you picked something that only ever appeared in one place.
mircea_popescu: it only appeared in one place, thus therefore if you claim that one place was "palatial", then boom, and if you claim it isn't, then equally boom.
mircea_popescu: the reason you can't see it there has to do with the definitions rather than with the fact of the matter.
asciilifeform: or, failing that, some element of 'what differentiates us from the monkeys'
mircea_popescu: you'll have to define your terms. how about, the cussacks ? the danubian pastoral communities ? the northern carpathians woodworking culture ? what do you wish to see ?
asciilifeform: where are the wholly unpalaced who sum to >0 ?
mircea_popescu: you can produce examples of subhuman populations. be they there or here or anywhere, they're still subhuman, and sum to 0.
asciilifeform: seems like you need the sinkhole.
asciilifeform: the folks who never ended up with palace - e.g., pashtuns - sum to 0.
mircea_popescu: "everything but the palace".
mircea_popescu: we're standing on the shoulders of unreasonable and naught else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not product in any sense. everything we use is the accidental byproduct of what the palace would have wanted to but didn't manage to "bring under control".
mircea_popescu: it lies convincingly for some, but this happenstance doesn't speak in favour of their intelligence.
asciilifeform: all of the components of everything we're now doing, from the basic maths to the semiconductor, are product of what mircea_popescu derides as 'palace wankery'
mircea_popescu: how about computing ? the whole century's worth of palace cs yielded... 500 boatloads of "culture" and nothring right, proper or even usable.
mircea_popescu: point in case : there isn't a 1% as much bitcoin-culture in all the usg.mit, usg.whartever sponsored "teams" and "think tanks" and etc of what's here.
asciilifeform: when you throw out the 'pretense', what's left? scythians on horseback, 'first ya pillage, then ya burn!1111' yarrrrrrrr
mircea_popescu: plenty of culture, of the genuine kind.
mircea_popescu: go isn't worth the mention.
asciilifeform: no pro go player worth the mention was anything other than playing full time from age 7 or so.
mircea_popescu: intelligent people become anything they wish, which is incidentally the only definition of intelligence worth the mention. if not "social sciences" useful.
asciilifeform: they can change coats, that's pretty much it
mircea_popescu: which is why and wherefore the wot will spread at the point of the sword and no other way.
mircea_popescu: the point being - that not only is the palace economy drone incapable of living as an effectual human being. it is much more importantly UNWILLING TO BECOME ONE. which is the main point.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu could probably kill WHOLE HERD of cows with pocket knife. and then what.
mircea_popescu: shit, i could DEFINITELY burn down the ~10mn strong buenos aires with a thousand people, that were actual people ie, the sort one'd run into back in the yugoslav war days.
mircea_popescu: cortes burned the whole thing with what, five hundred men ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the situation at the time is very much reminiscent of the current usg palace economy. one warrior is more than a match for many thousand "upstanding citizens". if seven ships worth 1k people sporting kalash with infinte ammo landed on us west coast, which consisted of "start-up culture" only, the result would be very much what happened at the end of the bronze age, or for that matter at the end of the aztec empire.
asciilifeform: motherfuckers.
asciilifeform: lol, 'you have reached the limit for viewing!'
asciilifeform: the '7' could be a '1, 2, 3, many' item.
mircea_popescu: (memorably, a pharaoh of the period speaks of the HORROR of the SEVEN!!111!! ships that came and ravaged his lands. imagine - seven's enough, not even a thousand warriors' worth.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's not the whole story, but yes, "pharaoh" means great house, for one thing, and it's not practical given the resources of the time to build a great house in any other system.
mircea_popescu: (its evolution in turn based on a very simple notion, directly accessible to the very simple minds then roaming the earth - as quarry taken is to be distributed by the hunt boss, so everything is a quarry and so everything is to be split up. this works for non-pastoral societies quite well, but when it runs into the better organised, smarter and generally more effectual shepherds and riders they get raped.)
mircea_popescu: but the important point is that the highly centralized, redistributive socialism of the 1300s gave way to a very independent, village-centered economy of the early iron age.
mircea_popescu: (and to niniveh, assur, babylon in the east)
mircea_popescu: pretty much all the "ancient towns" that did make it, memphis to tyre and sardis etc were rebuilt after being sacked at that time as well.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the classics agree, if mostly tacitly, that the loss was indeed greater, culturally, than the end of the roman empire.
mircea_popescu: pylos, mycene, knossos, troy, hattusa, tarsus, ugarith, qadesh, byblos, there's many dozens more, all towns that were major centers [of palace economy] and were never heard from again.
asciilifeform: same re the inca, simply the iron age 'began' late for them, had to sail across the pond.
mircea_popescu: not just. hittites, minoans, egyptians, you name it. all fell the weight of the greek-ish "people of the sea"
mircea_popescu: they were ~all palace economies, they were all wiped in the ~same half century cca 1300 bc, as the iron age begun
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're doing palace economy studies, the inca are a dubious, mostly backward in fact and hallucinated in theory and description example. meanwhile, the late bronze age anatolia, levant and golden crescent are much better studied, understood and documented.
asciilifeform: but, to revisit mircea_popescu's earlier observation, the pretense does have to respect the shape of the larger item.
mircea_popescu: "now is the time to eat"
mircea_popescu: there's some dispersion re this property in nature. some animals will eat themselves sick. some won't.
asciilifeform: could convince itself to try to carry the overload.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : no camel back ever breaks. the animal won't stand if it ~thinks~ it's overloaded.
mircea_popescu: how do you scalar the belief load tho ?
asciilifeform: just like the weight of knapsack a healthy young bloke can march with is roughly same today as in rome
mircea_popescu: this may be a valid theory.
asciilifeform: looking at the religions of the past (the selfsame inca empire, my recent kick) i've come to suspect that the overall 'belief load' typical human can carry is roughly constant
mircea_popescu: no, just, respects the shape of larger items.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's a matter of scarcity necessarily. that the sea flows through fjords does not mean the sea is finite.
asciilifeform: (it is not scarce in the sense that there is little of it, but in the sense where it is strictly finite and conserved)
asciilifeform: and not otherwise.
asciilifeform: this is possible because the scarce juice is saved for it.
mircea_popescu: there is that. but the clockwork of pretense doesn't actually prevent the general point.
asciilifeform: but this would not leave sufficient juice left over for pretending other pretenses
mircea_popescu: in a language not even understood, under many layers of dirt, the capital of name unknown never fell.
mircea_popescu: pretendjuice is the least finite of all resources. even today, after all the men are dead and all the women long raped into usefullness, the hittite empire pretend still lives, unsung and alone.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
asciilifeform: can only work with at least mildly broken bitcoin, e.g., the timelock thing
asciilifeform: well how the hell do you back a scamcoin with actual bitcoin
mircea_popescu: they lost that war, years ago. it's on trilema actually.
mircea_popescu: takes a shitload of stupid to get a world power into african level. took the russians what, a half century to unwind the last four tsars (stalin being the 4th)
asciilifeform: i predicted, for instance, that there would be a usgtronic alt backed by actual fiatola. which hasn't happened yet.
mircea_popescu: the immense piled wealth 1850-1950 keeps on unwinding.
asciilifeform: if usg were bleeding turkey dollars, the successive iterations of altpump would lose vigour.
asciilifeform: something is missing in the model.
mircea_popescu: well no but it's part of the asciilifeform apodicticology, "nothing that ever happens could disrupt usg".
asciilifeform: this is rather like, e.g., rutherford's observation that electron doesn't fall out of its orbit by radiating away energy, and hence is not analogous to orbiting moon.
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that there's been any net leakage of 'turkey dollar.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, usg is pumping air back into eth ?
asciilifeform: which is why 1,001 flavours of ninjashotguns instinctively attack the notion.
asciilifeform: wot is the one and only potential penicillin for this.
asciilifeform: and yes, 'them crackpots are crayzeeeee' - for same reason as the folks shooting at usg are. because after 100 yrs of 'we control vertical and horizontal' only the nuts are left to resist.
asciilifeform: the one thing ~every~ idiocy is unerringly good at is recognizing direct threats to own perpetuation.
asciilifeform: which is to say, the tokamak folks are about as interested in desktop, $1000 fusion (of ~whatever temperatures~) as the maths dept at your uni is interested in elementary proof of fermat, or the software 'industry' - in 'fits in head', etc.
asciilifeform: one key bit of insight is that 'self-licking ice cream cones' - which is to say, all 'mainstream science', as carried out by mandarins who leave their balls in a jar via the degree-wank-till-you're-45 method (vs the ancient and more humane sharp knife and rope one) all produce very much the same output.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 01:29 hanbot: <asciilifeform> 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel << wtf is a "mainstream consensus" even, other'n subconscious acknowledgement of the utter lack of substance contained in what they'd like to be seen as doing, anyway.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1484865 << the zombies' notion of 'substance' is quite the same 'palace economy' as their concept of, e.g., political legitimacy - a magical juice produced at harvard and distributed to the mandarins and from there down to 'deserving' plebes.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 01:23 shinohai: lol Factom up 44.97 % iisn't that the company you mentioned earlier asciilifeform
hanbot: <asciilifeform> 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel << wtf is a "mainstream consensus" even, other'n subconscious acknowledgement of the utter lack of substance contained in what they'd like to be seen as doing, anyway.
shinohai: lol Factom up 44.97 % iisn't that the company you mentioned earlier asciilifeform
asciilifeform: tendrils of the squid.
asciilifeform: for ustards there is ALWAYS a 'consensus'.
mircea_popescu: the only conensus would be of esltards and junior high unionized teachers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is absolutely no "consensus" re early physics. there';s at least a dozen articulated theories, maybe broadly classifiable in 3-4 groups.
asciilifeform: 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel
asciilifeform: an interesting exercise, for patient folks, is to follow the usg tendrils backwards in time, observing what subjects had been dealt with by seeding public forum with crank bait, long before 'blocksizs wars' etc.
mircea_popescu: (except in fucking argentina, these people are too mentally slow to even that.)
mircea_popescu: and the "call X for cocksucking" notices unfailingly appear in all public restrooms
asciilifeform: (largely propagated by naturally-occurring idiots, but usg wins from their existence and sometimes throws a bone, ensuring that their voice will be loud and clear in any nominally 'deviant' forum)
mircea_popescu: that said, there's a bunch of crap floating around cold fusion. a sort of quantum computing.
asciilifeform: but the inhabitants spread elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought they weren't active no moar ?
mircea_popescu: where's all these ugly schmucks come from. check out frank luntz for a nightmare sometime.
asciilifeform: yudkowsky & co 'debunk' any un-usgtronic item they can think of
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'weeds must spread' apparently encompasses every possible thing: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fusion_woo
mircea_popescu: another bitcoin scammer moved on to altcoins ?
mircea_popescu: no, as a general rule drones hang for what they are, queens hang for what they did. there's really little other than "he's jwz" needed to hang jwz.
mircea_popescu: personally i'm much more invested in beheading the schmuck over the "web 2.0" bullshit than whatever foss drama.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people want is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
asciilifeform: i'd rather read us state dept memis from 1940s.
mircea_popescu: or what, you think anyone WANTED to read the fucking harry potter nonsense ?
mircea_popescu: he printed for the same reason vc generally prints : "gotta have finger in all pies you never know which you want later".
mircea_popescu: which is the story here. derpopo's o'reilly's point man in "cryptoblockchainaltechnologies" after being kicked the fuck out of bitcoin.
asciilifeform: not that the man isn't a snake
asciilifeform: i always thought that oreilley - the dead tree thing - were purely opportunistic
mircea_popescu: http://www.thebaffler.com/articles/the-meme-hustler << monograph in question
a111: Logged on 2015-01-11 03:50 mircea_popescu: i don't propose that rms "shouldn't have" or that fsf shouldn't have been or anything of the sort. but really, the pretense that at some point the situation seriously was, red pill vs blue pill and o'reilly of all people tricked everyone into getting the wrong pill...
mircea_popescu: nah nah. the books guy
mircea_popescu: there was a pretty decent monograph on how the early days of "open source" vs "free software" played out, with the wanna-be derp front and center, i think linked in the logs.
mircea_popescu: kinda the strategy of that mini usg, "find pliable idiots in all fields, promote them, get payola when/if nsa needs some planting done"
mircea_popescu: well of course, he exists because the asshole behind ers&co's "we'll get UBER RICH by backstabbing rms", the one with the shoddy "guide" textbook publishing scam, promoted him way back when.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 20:33 shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first
mod6: im on the same thought track - yeah.
shinohai: I used it one time a long time ago, it has to go through the WHOLE chain first
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: "fuck your village" thanks for the lols :D
mircea_popescu: ima go pick up a slut, will be back in a few hours. just in case any gavin andresen implementations feel the burning need to derp here.
Framedragger: > soon we will have a smart contract to reward miners who oppose the soft fork and mines the transaction. 1 million ether + 100 btc will be shared with miners.
mircea_popescu: shinohai this is ~the result of google existing, basically.
Framedragger behind on the news
Framedragger: wow im not gonna read all of it but https://github.com/LeastAuthority/ethereum-analyses/blob/master/GasEcon.md is amusing, ethereum is sorta shite on the purely technical level, too
Framedragger: i just find it amusing in general, yeah pointing out not as a contra, but, just, for the lulz
Framedragger: same, honestly, this has been uncovered only now, but, like, wtf, it's right there in a security audit, wtf
asciilifeform: i confess to never having given enough of a fuck re the eth circus to keep track in real time. but fortunately ~somebody~ did...
Framedragger: "Someone could trick an autonomous agent into calling get_free_money() at the end of a very long call stack, such that thesend fails, and the agent would lose its money to this contract." etc
Framedragger: asciilifeform: and apparently this particular "such recursion" flaw had already been spotted in a 2015 securiti audit? https://github.com/LeastAuthority/ethereum-analyses/blob/master/GasEcon.md#callstack-depth-limit-errors
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulz of all time : the thing you linked links to qntra via a NOT CLICKABLE reference to https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/cnlqcd
asciilifeform: also wtf, buterin hired some imbecile to write the dao thing?!
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: btw just fyi that sig on that pastebin post is probably all wrong, https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oo1io/an_open_letter_from_the_hacker/d4e7efq - just sayin
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many internet urchins are being "the attacker" rightnao
Framedragger: > realdaoattacker [ba17b74e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.23.183.78] entered the room.
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat-lolz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4op7eb/mircea_popescu_to_the_dao_and_the_ethereum/d4eg61b
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema servers can apparently take 100k surges without even hiccuping. nb.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder btw, there's no ident. we got rid of state. all you do is decrypt a message.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder heh. kludge ie http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-lolcows-the-musical-today-kludge/
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes, you must be in the bot's wot.
mircea_popescu: win-win, as they say.
asciilifeform: so naturally that's where all of the squid ink must be directed.
mircea_popescu: slutty wife prays "god, let me be pregnant or not, but in either case please don't let my husband figure out HOW". socialist prays "god, let the etherape happen or not, but in either case please don't let THE BAD GUY have done things!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is rather notable though that the largest threat perceived by muppets and their drivers alike is "mp doing things". far, FAR above you know, their shitpile collapsing in a loud mess, the ONE thing that's worth expending the unhappeningium is, mp!
asciilifeform: the parallels are astonishingly close and i've thought about writing whole monograph about it
asciilifeform: as they sizzled, sizzled.
asciilifeform: drunks could grab hold of the wire and become phamous
mircea_popescu: the only thing worse than having something to talk about being not having something to talk about.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the advantage of crypto - it allows one to make absolute statements, but people dunno how to use it, so it at least gives them something to talk about.
realdaoattacker: Thanks for the article in Trilema mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: let the price plummet
thestringpuller: fud is the fuel of volatility
asciilifeform: that was the suggested lul yes
daoattacker: asciilifeform, because i'm not the attacker, LOL. yet people ate it up.
daoattacker: usually something like https://github.com/ethereumjs/helpeth
daoattacker: what's hilarious is that the signature isn't even valid
daoattacker: thanks for the trilema mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: or he went out to put moar petrol in the 2-cycle unhappenator motor.