Framedragger on and off but generally not old enough to join the club. the documentation is a piece of work though..
asciilifeform: Framedragger: no slopes, slippery or otherwise. simply pointing out that the 'you can buy this machine, and 20 yrs from now you can buy 100% compatible one' does NOT exist.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: that's a misuse of slippery slope i think; i could e.g. say then that any "concept" is not "stable" and not "truly ontologically grounded" or whatever. but i guess there's actual stuff / critique to be said about stability of hardware in particular, so, fair enough i guess
phf: Framedragger: fwiw i've spent about 4 years on freebsd, from 98 to 2002 or so and it pains me to no end that platform compromised where theo held the perimeters with an iron fist.
Framedragger: phf: the latter is true i suppose, but on stable hardware configurations the"drivers" etc prolly does not apply. but sure, size etc
phf: but llvm is definitely toxic because it was designed with the ~explicitly stated goal~ of killing gcc
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: Sure like Debian. The freebsd problem is where there bugs keep popping up (i.e. places that make crypto impossibru)
asciilifeform: at any rate, all unix is architecturally defective in ways which inevitably lead to the same piles of shit we are kicking around today.
phf: Framedragger: linux is worst is better in this case. it sucks in the same way freebsd sucks, but it has more support, more software, more drivers, etc.
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: If you bsd either NEtBSD or OpenbsD but make own ports.
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: lol talk about selection bias;surely you can do the same for various linuxes
asciilifeform: it exists strictly because apple wanted to be rid of the gpl.
deedbot: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/02/19/freebsd-and-the-yarnbug-more-trouble-at-the-random-number-mill/ << FreeBSD and the YARNBUG – more trouble at the Random Number ... | https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/pr-guidelines/article.html << FreeBSD Problem Report Handling Guidelines | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports-bugs << freebsd-ports-bugs Info Page
asciilifeform: Framedragger: because it is a political instrument of the enemy.
Framedragger: these abstract rebuttals always confuse me
Framedragger: let me guess, i should check the logs :)
asciilifeform: likewise, slow clocks of the time made 'compilation must be a form of caching strictly' likewise unthinkable.
asciilifeform: point being, the higher-level stuff is interesting and useful, but the foundations are crud. mainly, cost of memory and disk at the time made orthogonal persistence a largely unthinkable thing.
phf: well, it can be rebuilt as a staging platform, sort of like instead of building own city, can just use the carcass of a roman settlement. it's not rome, but with some study can understand rome nature and work towards that.
asciilifeform: it was ~conceptually~ The Right Thing in 1,001 ways that c-machine is not, but not something that really deserves to be rebuilt verbatim (other than for study)
asciilifeform: ~95% undergrad hacks by weight, to get around the quite baroque hardware stack forced by the tech of the period.
asciilifeform: i can't recall if we had the thread,
phf: i'm about to provision another machine based on asciilifeform's gentoo depotatoing, but i really wish tmsr had a better official distro
trinque: thestringpuller: trinque │ mats: as far as I know that's yet to be updated with new data
trinque: if I can avoid working on a btcalpha replacement I'll be hacking on the payment system for deedbot
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shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485707 <<< i think there are stricter rules for deedbot no?
Bugpowder: this is the L1 L2 thing?
deedbot: thestringpuller may not $up Bugpowder
shinohai: "sluck.it: desperate to have the mEth community come together and clean up the shit they took on the carpet."
Framedragger: hope the crunching goes well
Framedragger: here's more of him on dao and sleeping with students http://techgenix.com/mathematics-ethereum-hack/
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485638 << btcbase is deployed using v (not quite fully automatically yet though), and there's all kind of support infrastructure in that folder that i don't want to diff every time, but also don't want to shuffle around
thestringpuller: Yea. I don't think it was the version. I think I "broke" my chrome at work.
phf: it's such a simple feature it should really work all the way back to IE5 or whatever
phf: thestringpuller: which version of chrome was it?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 12:29 thestringpuller: phf: random thought. is it possible to highlight lines when linked to a log with a direct line?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485570 << that should already happen, so probably feature is broken in one of the browsers. if you can give me name/version i could debug it, and possibly even fix it
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima bbl. if the various journos that kept wanting interviews do manage to find their way to the internet, keep 'em warm ima be back in a few hours.
mircea_popescu: point to the moon, vc tard will look at the finger. then gouge his eyes out, and he'll thank you for nothing happening.
mircea_popescu: "|well, this line is because one idiot put a bug in in march 2015. this one april. these fifteen may. etc. it's all needed"
mircea_popescu: imagine the clever mit governance of their scamcoin. by 2018 there will be 10gb of crud. "why is this all here ?!?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: but the lulziest part : their "solution" consists of a blacklist to be baked into code forevermore!
asciilifeform: and correctly cross-referenced with the originating keys.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is because the mods MUST be deduplicated.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: so is it then because you need to insert them sequentially, you can't paralllelize because if you do you won't end up with db which'd have "*all* moduli tested against each other"?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: this has nothing to do with the gcd thing
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the queries can't be batched.
Framedragger: i.e. do the loop of for each as part of the query itself; but maybe you already do that
Framedragger: asciilifeform: if it's a regular rdbms i guess you can at least pipeline it in the db itself, e.g. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/queries-with.html - but i imagine the bottleneck is not exactly there
asciilifeform: (the one and only actual bottleneck on phuctor is getting keys in - there is NO way around db query FOR EACH)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485617 << nice. these will stoke the furnace for a very long time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform part of the "import a sig" chain, see what phuctor says.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 13:06 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, phuctor's becoming quite the tool in scoping out new sigs.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 11:44 mircea_popescu: "we made some promises, which WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION TO NOT KEEP!!1111"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485551 << i would say 'idiots who believed promises made by state are extinct' but this appears not to be the case.
asciilifeform: rather than relying on flagolade
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 04:23 phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch
thestringpuller: amount available to borrow 140k ether
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, phuctor's becoming quite the tool in scoping out new sigs.
mircea_popescu: then they can have the Pot vs PoB holy wars, arraying anarcho-bureaucratists vs queer nontransgenerational feminists & vegans or something.
mircea_popescu: "a transaction" ie, "pay from these 500 accounts to these 500 accounts" is not ONE wire. it's 1001 wires.
shinohai: well perhaps they shouldn't spam treatises on bigger blocks to the blockchain, thereby reducing wasted space.
mircea_popescu: much like phantomcircuit is still "contributing" to bitcoin, presumably new and novel ways to send the whole customer list the whole customer emails list.
mircea_popescu: in the new normal of usg agents, "you only say something if it benefits you". so they don't see the point of saying "we lost it all", because what's in it for them ?
shinohai: seriously these ppl using "gotomypc.com" service who are one password hack away from having all your shit exfiltrated or ransomed.
thestringpuller: "After researching Bitcoin, Buterin wanted to get his hands on some so he could formally join this new, experimental economy, but he had neither the cash to buy them, nor the computing power necessary to mine them himself. Instead he searched the online Bitcoin forums until he found someone who was willing to pay him in bitcoin for contributing to a blog. Every post earned him 5 bitcoins."
shinohai: mit hates him! Learn how to rape the dao with this ONE SIMPLE TRICK!
mircea_popescu: hopefully it bleeds out the entirety of mit's 13 bn worth of paper "endowments" and we don't have to hear about that shithole ever again.
mircea_popescu: but in other etherape news... http://66.media.tumblr.com/ad18a203f2a9767b5e1828b4101dd41b/tumblr_o3uct3Ak2z1twkv1qo2_400.gif
mircea_popescu: well, if this were some sort of uncontrollable spread by vector like infection, then yes. but in point of fact they're only contagious IF YOU AGREE. you don't have to agree.
thestringpuller: hmmm. perhaps there is distinction between "harmless idiot" and "harmful idiot". Much like debate of useful vs useless idiot.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "Groups of scammers use these idiots, exactly like the 'Ndrangheta used that Josh Zerlan muppet" << goes back to the thread of "Bernie Madoff wasn't to blame alone"; i.e. the muppets that vouched/pumped his scam
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 11:45 mircea_popescu: amusingly enough... there's US Supreme Court precedent to the theory! http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/
thestringpuller: for instance: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485552 << gets lost if you click it cause its at the bottom
mircea_popescu: while on that topic, perhaps mention worthy, http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#comment-117654
thestringpuller: "I think we're soon going to see discussions of liability consume this community in a way that makes the MtGox fiasco look simple by comparison -- because it was, in terms of liability."
thestringpuller: Okay, so CCO Stephan Tual is waking him off and tries to "do work", by creating slock.it. Slock it is a company who's flagship vaporware is the Slock connected to an "Ethereum Computer". The Slock is a lock based on a smart contract, that unlocks a door when someone pays enough Ether via a hub like AirBNB. So called making "rentals" automated. They release the DAO and pump that to crowdfund their computer. The DAO gets hacked and they
thestringpuller: So let me get this straight. Vitalik believes everything should be on the blockchain cuz "future". Hype ensues, and because of stupid "block size issue" in Bitcoin, he's able to pump the bubble with gullible ether huffers.
mircea_popescu: the cheek of the usg agents, you know. "legal system" czar gave them the note signed by hitler, they perceive responsibility as a thing of the past.
Framedragger: the additional ethereum from the child dao splits is teh leaked gravitational energy, something something
Framedragger: shinohai: nice. also, i just remembered probing one of those software defined radios on the internet, and hearing this high frequency thing. checked, it said it was some pulsar. that thing out there doing full 360 degree spins in less than a second, and us hearing it.. cool stuff
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough... there's US Supreme Court precedent to the theory! http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/
mircea_popescu: "we made some promises, which WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION TO NOT KEEP!!1111"
mircea_popescu: "I will buy Ether from any users who rage quit because of a hard fork. It won't be much because most opposition here is from non-stakeholders trying to deny stakeholders their right to self determination." << that's how http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/ 's "the people themselves" is called now ? "right to self determination" ?
shinohai: I miss giant parabolic antennas of the 80's
mircea_popescu: any chance of putting this on ~your blog~, so if three years from now i go "hey i wonder where was that thing phf made with the diffs" i can save an hour ?
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shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo thanks, will make up for shitposting with something good when I can tune in something besides dao/ether noise.
felipelalli: (sorry, I'm a little drunk) https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4ox7re/as_a_bitcoin_hodler_i_beg_please_make_the_fork/
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The lighter side of Russia. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/19/the-lighter-side-of-russia/
phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch
phf: and the other one, and main reason for posting, is that you can use it in a pipe. like diff -uNr a b | vdiff to vdiffy-y any regular patch
phf: of the two changes, it makes sure to close the cmd, which is a bug on bsd awks (or rather a defense against permissive gnu awk) the descriptors are kept open for each of the cmd's eventually running into open file limit
phf: for interested parties, i have a modified version of vdiff. http://paste.lisp.org/display/318813 (this one is mac specific, so if your shasum is different command you need to patch that, otherwise it should be portable)
mircea_popescu: A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences.
mircea_popescu: equences of the instructions he gives to it.
mircea_popescu: But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision the full cons
mircea_popescu: t use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror.
mircea_popescu: ge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn'
mircea_popescu: I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined to spin the hu
mircea_popescu: heh i guess there's that.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And not that the unreadability to them is a virtue. They can all discuss it with the confidence it was unread.
mircea_popescu: dear god these people produce such trite prose. unreadable.
mircea_popescu: and the toilet paper and dishwashing steel wool were interchangeable!
phf: mircea_popescu: c'mon we are reminiscing, "in soviet union men wrought tools out of steal and built bridges that lead to god's own gates! women made pillows that were feather but light than feathers and as you lay on those pillows you needed to sleep for five minutes, but it was as if you slept ad libitum"
mircea_popescu: uh log breaks the url
asciilifeform: https://web.archive.org/web/20160304015907/http://www.team.net/mjb/hawg.html << mega-classic re shit toolz, surprised that it isn't in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: they're prolly mayo nose hairs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only theoretically.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:45 asciilifeform: (it appears to be impossible to get feathers-but-no-stems pillow in usa)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485404 << likely. back when i was in the us a decade ago, a very visible 1/3 of tools had a very nailpolish-and-high heels value
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:12 phf: i also had one of these guys http://goodlinez.ru/userfiles/85.jpg
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:05 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> buy that hammer drill. << Actually everyone prolly ought to get their power tools before China cuts USia off.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485378 << this is a good point, the good times won't last forever.
mircea_popescu: iirc it was about the floor surface of his car.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> i don't even know where the servers are going to go yet. << hey, at least it's no longer "life in an elevator"
BingoBoingo: Asking trades people in don't drink club about suggested replacement tools some think a few America brand's tools were improved by being swept into the Techtronics juggernaut, but... will have to see
asciilifeform: and the injured meat.
BingoBoingo: I don't think there are powered tools anymore that aren't chinese.
BingoBoingo: Which makes the abomination of a chuck even harder to forgive.
BingoBoingo: Can even pick up these gears with magnet.
asciilifeform: i've always almost wanted to put together a 'ithasplasticgears.com' public shame list.
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a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:28 BingoBoingo: A few months ago got my first cordless drill. Went with "Ryobi Starter Drill" so the battery would work with reciprocating saw I wanted which comes without battery. Reciprocating saw is wonderful. Drill chuck slips on drill bits all the time so in a futile effort t detach chuck the contents of the drill's gearbox is now scattered on a corner of my desk.
BingoBoingo: My cousin swiped all of grandapa's tools in that time between the journey from hospital to cemetary.
asciilifeform: (it appears to be impossible to get feathers-but-no-stems pillow in usa)
phf: and by "everybody" you mean people who haven't gotten to throwing out grandpa's toolbox yet, and like the whole 6 of breed Soviet Engineers (two in argentina, one in south korea and the rest in u.s.)
phf: http://guns.allzip.org/topic/9/1433825.html << that's probably same production line as the one i had
phf: i'm trying to ebay one at the moment :>
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 02:12 phf: i also had one of these guys http://goodlinez.ru/userfiles/85.jpg
BingoBoingo: anyways this time I'll probably actually try it in the store before leaving. Get drill, masonry bits, and concrete block then test it in the tool rental area. If people test riding morwers there I don't see why I can't test drill.
phf: i was actually comparing a zojirushi rice cooker that i bought from amazon to the one my jap friend brought from motherland. it's sort of like is somebody designed an item that's supposed to look identical from the distance, but has lower resolution upon closer inspection. missing features, BIG buttons and less of them, cheaper rougher molding. it's hilarious
phf: japanese products for american market are all made in china. they are bigger, clunkier and cheaper. authentic japanese item almost always looks and feels more compact, but to acquire one you have to go to weeb websites, or try to wade through export sites with huge markups
BingoBoingo: I am still puzzled by the decision to give cheapest drill a gearbox with 16 clutch settings instead of a chuck that can fucking hold a bit.
BingoBoingo: A few months ago got my first cordless drill. Went with "Ryobi Starter Drill" so the battery would work with reciprocating saw I wanted which comes without battery. Reciprocating saw is wonderful. Drill chuck slips on drill bits all the time so in a futile effort t detach chuck the contents of the drill's gearbox is now scattered on a corner of my desk.
phf: you had to take that little cover off to put oil in, otherwise it'd run not as smooth, so you kind of learn when to oil it. then periodically you had to clean it fully, because mostly wood, metal and oil would get inside make soup
phf: i'm pretty sure i've done that, at least to prime the spot. also as a child that's kind of a natural inclination
BingoBoingo: Aha those drills look like they can take hammer to make hammer drill
BingoBoingo: The way it works is instead of weird wrist twisting motion screwdriver allows more familiar jack off pumping motion.
BingoBoingo: phf: The push down ratcheting screwdrivers by yankee/stanley are pretty cool, but also discontinued since forever ago.
BingoBoingo: Anyways apparently high end cordless tools are actually useful now since Techtronic of Hong Kong apparently OEM's for all the brands it hasn't bough and actually introduced *gasp* BRUSHLESS motors.
deedbot: [Qntra] Gotomypc.com Goes To Other Peoples PC's Too! - http://qntra.net/2016/06/gotomypc-com-goes-to-other-peoples-pcs-too/
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> buy that hammer drill. << Actually everyone prolly ought to get their power tools before China cuts USia off.
phf: i like comcast. it's the people's republic of america people's internet, it works, unless it doesn't, in which case go to competition lol
ben_vulpes: there's an entire small industry in the pacnw around internet uptime to arbitrary shitty buildings
ben_vulpes: their 'business' packages are similarly utter scamolade.
asciilifeform: (yes the modem worked.)
asciilifeform: though, many years ago when i used it, they actually neglected to bill me for almost 2 years.
ben_vulpes: anyways, cable company, monopolists of net in my area, deploy 'independent contractors', entirely happy to drill holes through whateverthefuck.
ben_vulpes: nothere.coveredwagon
asciilifeform: where i live, telco will drop the fiber and that's it, any extra plumbing is yours to sweat
ben_vulpes: plus then i don't have to deal with running cat5 through living spaces, because in this povery-stricken part of the world everyone wants their data pipes in the room where children should be playing for some reason
asciilifeform: depends what the wall is made of.
ben_vulpes: i did that for a while, when moving frequently. its not really that much of a hassle to get it put in wherever, and to insulate the offense to the skin myself.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i typically reuse the landline opening.
ben_vulpes: i don't even know where the servers are going to go yet.
ben_vulpes: america es un pais pobre! internet will come from 'xfinity wifi', eg some other sucker who paid comcast to have one of their repeaters in his house.
ben_vulpes: no, 'tis wired. although the breaker labeled 'dryer' does not in fact shut off the dryer's 220.
ben_vulpes: i find the uneven floor charming.
ben_vulpes: ty and trinque. notquite bunker, but not mass-produced foamed petro product either, which is quite a score.
asciilifeform: dun forget the wagner.
asciilifeform: well at any rate, turns out they're steerable in free space.
asciilifeform: the sheer variety of nyoooo factz we learned about photons really having charge after all !111111111
ben_vulpes: in entirely unrelated /america no es un pais pobre/ news, i have an address outside of portland for the first time in nearly two decades
Framedragger: jurov: but that key is borked due to my hasty scripting, so makes sense that the parsed modulus is not prime, either
Framedragger: jurov: no i meant exponent in this case actually, the actual exponent for that key was supposed to be 65537
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah this is only a test. i'll send alf the whole openpgp-wrapped bundle once that's done processing. the above is just a test, and it's a false positive
a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 21:52 Framedragger: asciilifeform: i've accidentally (== i fucked up) imported one mutilated key to phuctor. this key in particular http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EE6E84ED0485E5C4615D47E7BF518A35F1A8DE60C6DFBBF1F60B1911839726CE - guess it can't hurt if it's there, but if/when phuctor reports broken key (that particular exponent is not prime), it's gonna be due to me being retarded and not the key..
jurov: i'm missing out on all the conspiracies and fun!!!
mircea_popescu: there's worse fates.
mircea_popescu: fact is, there's no practical way to run plain web servers in 2016.
shinohai: oh their version of crapflare or sumthin
jurov: but they are dying, too
thestringpuller: guess no point in using dns if you have the proxy ips
mircea_popescu: well there's a bit of a dns storm, but use old ips
Framedragger: what's the latest mpex url? mpex.co does seem to be down, fwiw
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the whole mpex/tmsr/etc thing is ~equivalent to a ten ton hammer of pure cognitive dissonance for man on clapham omnibus.
mats: maybe its the social proof
mats: its the css
fwr: I find this incredibly hard to believe that there is this sort of money involved
fwr: says in the blog post that it's just below that
fwr: help me to understand this, MPEx has been sold for 250k BTC, but the website itself is down?
mircea_popescu: that guy is epic. "we both have the same number of employees : 0.5"
Framedragger: heh: http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/telecom/internet/the-fathers-of-the-internet-revolution-urge-todays-pioneers-to-reinvent-the-web (*obviously* it starts with a full screen advertisement first) - archive.is: http://archive.is/g7pkA
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i've accidentally (== i fucked up) imported one mutilated key to phuctor. this key in particular http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EE6E84ED0485E5C4615D47E7BF518A35F1A8DE60C6DFBBF1F60B1911839726CE - guess it can't hurt if it's there, but if/when phuctor reports broken key (that particular exponent is not prime), it's gonna be due to me being retarded and not the key..
pete_dushenski: is that like the black widow ?
shinohai: "I lost my leg in a car accident, collecting some BTC for prosthesis i really want to function normally.
mircea_popescu: hey, they wouldn't let go of mtgox until a year+ later and millions more were lost.
shinohai: christ mircea_popescu at the wave of shitcoin beggars in those trilema comments.
thestringpuller: So, they are trying to prop Ethereum. When the real crash happens...like the Too Big to Fail bailout...
mircea_popescu: i dun really think it's any sort of filter on trilema side. they might not actually make it across at all.
mircea_popescu: what ip you send them from ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i actually publish pingbacks, i dun think they make it over for some reason.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1485154 << the author runs and lives off of his small no-bullshit bookmarking and archiving (bookmark/tag sites/PDFs, be able to full-text search later etc) business pinboard.in which has this exotic (to SV crowd anyway) business model called "users pay for the service and the service delivers". i like the guy
pete_dushenski: wow, catching up on latest batch of trilema etherpocalypse comments... the spammers and welfarists are out in full force.
pete_dushenski: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4ot3z8/dao_is_under_attack_again/ << already covered ? from 8 hrs ago.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the special room, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517212.0;all
pete_dushenski: this was when i was dipping my toes in 'tmsr pr' idea. basically just wanted to see if fiverr paid views worked, and if so, where they were coming from. turns out that the answers were "yes", "from russia", and "but only temporarily"
pete_dushenski: i paid fiverr guy to 'view' a yt clip 5k times. results were delivered. several months later, yt removed those paid for 'views'. like ethereum 'rollback' i guess.
pete_dushenski: though i found out that the 5k of ruskie 'views' i sent to that video for shits and giggles... unhappened. they lasted for at least 3-4 months though.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: stop the clocks reading ?
pete_dushenski: turns out that ios will also auto-download the update as soon as you connect to wifi (it's a 200+ mb file) and harass you 2-5 PER DAY until you submit to installing it.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so did any girlies wet their panties over your poetry reading ?
pete_dushenski: rightly so, obv. but if the mouth-breathers are 'getting it', then ya... end of times eh.
pete_dushenski: i was trying to figure out how to shut off the ios update notifications and stumbled onto 'osxdaily' and couldn't fucking believe my eyes. cook from central casting has absolutely spent every last penny of steve's good will
pete_dushenski: the usg.mit h8 is everywhere. fuck even the shiny glowing untouchable uncriticisable aapl is getting flamed... from their own fanbois no less.
pete_dushenski: 'dead as obama' may also have been the tongue-in-cheek reference
mircea_popescu: btw, why did the ethereum people misspell "dead on arrival" as "dao" anyway. too much ritalin ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: tip o' the cap for pumping vitalik's eyes shut yesterday. made for an enjoyable saturday of log reading and trilema comment following
pete_dushenski: o hey no one died in an open-cockpit racer this morning in baku. who would've predicted that raising a generation of drivers who've known neither injury nor death, no matter the speeds and stupidity of their crashes, would lead to a buncha fuckin pussies the likes of which are suitable only for perfume advertisements
pete_dushenski: weird that phf's logs differentiate between capitlised words and uncapitalised words. dunno if it's possible to bridge these two islands, but it'd be much appreciated.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-15 15:08 asciilifeform: 'On Friday, Secretary Penny Pritzker of the US Department of Commerce joined special assistant to the president for economic policy Adrienne Harris and other top White House officials for an event featuring a lecture from Brian Forde, director of digital currency initiative a the MIT Media Lab, and multiple panels on financial technology more generally speaking. Hosted at the Eisenhower Executive Office Build
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-15#1483036 <-- actually already covered on contravex before logs --> http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/13/the-future-of-finance-is-now-translated/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: they shopt teh sheriff
BingoBoingo: And Louisiana has Parishes isntead of counties so fuck them.
BingoBoingo: Although some sheriffs departments have police cheifs too when the sheriff is a figurehead that doesn't run their department.
mircea_popescu: this is the true engine of change, too much fucking wastage omfg.
mircea_popescu: phf the only problem here is that the ~6-800mn mouthbreather population contains a good 20 to maybe 50mn of these hard working, intelligent, dedicated folks. 99.???% of which get burned out by some idiot "boss" working within the imbecile ideological framework they got going there.
phf: i mean i'm pretty sure the ad bid system generated at least a handful of public talks at conferences, etc, which i'm sure painted the ad company in most positive of lights.
phf: so when ad people talk about "smart" ads and shit like that i'm usually trying to imagine what their actual stream of income is.
phf: thing is the owner was a micromanaging psychopath, so the project lead, who was trying to build a "rockstart" team and build a "kickass" product, ended up working there long enough to lay the foundation, before burning out, losing his shit, devorcing his wife, etc. but the project was a complete failure, that never the less provided a legitimate front for the company's real operations. they usual array of porn banners, dirty affiliate marketing, f
phf: i briefly worked for an ad company, was hired to do realtime ad bidding. google and few other companies send you a request. "such and such ad space available, starting bid is this many cents, you have 500ms to formulate a response, how much you want to pay and ad url, we let you know if won." request comes with a tracking id, so by sitting on the pipe long enough and placing losing bids you were supposedly able to both build up user profiles and g