mircea_popescu: in other superlulz, Emin Gün Sirer : "If the ETH community bails out the DAO (and I believe they should), we need to put in place a social wall around Slockit to avoid a repeat."
thestringpuller: its usually to cut down on spam, as I won't respond to recruiter inquiries unless they show up on IRC
thestringpuller: My contact info on linkedin is: "Find me, under nick thestringpuller, in #trilema on Freenode. If you don't know how to use IRC, I more than likely don't want to work for you."
ascii_deadfiber: the transparent ploy behind the 'soft forks' and related crapolade is to try to siphon btc into corners from which it can no longer be removed with a trb node.
BingoBoingo: Or you could start showing up to their homes and beating them with a sock full of quarters.
ascii_deadfiber: (as described in http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol and elsewhere.)
ascii_deadfiber: BingoBoingo: only mircea_popescu has the correct pill for hardphorkerz.
BingoBoingo: It's soft because they say so. If you want them to admit that it is hard you have to knock on Peter Todd's door naked and holding a sock full of quarters
ascii_deadfiber: it necessarily forks the chain
BingoBoingo: ascii_deadfiber: Address starts with 3 has been the convention for pederastry ever since multisig happened
BingoBoingo: ascii_deadfiber: It's their new convention. I'm assuming, could be wrong but this is how the last Toddatronic turd went
ascii_deadfiber: where in the bip does it say this ?
ascii_deadfiber: what's to stop a miner from pissing all over the 'lock'
ascii_deadfiber: the one thing i'm failing to grasp is how this is a 'soft' fork
ascii_deadfiber: 'Despite this limitation, we do have a way to provide something functionally similar to retroactive invalidation while preserving irreversibility of past commitments using CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY. By constructing scripts with multiple branches of execution where one or more of the branches are delayed we provide a time window in which someone can supply an invalidation condition that allows the output to be spent, effectively inva
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:04 asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
BingoBoingo: Described in mines as "checksequenceverify (CSV) is a group of 3 BIPs that will enable relative time locks. This will let you lock money for a predetermined period after your transaction confirms. The time can be a time measured in multiples of 512 seconds or a block count."
BingoBoingo: In other news apparently another soft fork no one has a srs use case for was "voted" in by miners
BingoBoingo: So it will be the old-old folks homes converted to психушкаs
ascii_deadfiber: that the buildout of old folks homes etc will be re-used as психушкаs when the generation currently occupying them expires
BingoBoingo: Well that's why they call it camping!
BingoBoingo: for srs all these roflcopters
ascii_deadfiber: i dun think they have 'civilization' in this continent, BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Apparently your gas is allowed to leak, but when we have some idiot tear up a pressurized line with backhow somehow Middle west is Zimbabwe while James Lafond presents alf in the hood is pocket of civilization
ascii_deadfiber: srsly there was a gas leak on my street last year and they dug up half of it and put in the hose in place of pipe.
ascii_deadfiber: which inevitably provokes the question: when can i expect to see gas pipe on poles !!
ascii_deadfiber: btw i noticed that all new gas lines where i live are flexible hose instead of the customary cast iron pipe
BingoBoingo: IP over Compressed natural gas is all the rage ehre
ascii_deadfiber: so then.
ascii_deadfiber: tomorrow at the earliest.
ascii_deadfiber: zoolag down until the pole climbers get here.
BingoBoingo: Aha, so merely having fiber doesn't mean you don't live in the heart of Dindustan
ascii_deadfiber: the name sayz it all, tho.
deedbot: [Qntra] Corn Futures Fall On Possibility Of Further Supply Glut - http://qntra.net/2016/06/corn-futures-fall-on-possibility-of-further-supply-glut/
deedbot: [Trilema] The longest S-expression in the history of Lisp (of which Computing Science is a subset, of which "Information Technology" is a subset, of which what you''re currently doing probably is a subset - a circumstance which does not plead in favour of your intelligence, or for that matter moral values) - http://trilema.com/2016/the-longest-s-expression-in-the-history-of-lisp-of-which-computing-science-is-a-subset-of-which-information-technology-is-a-subs
BingoBoingo: Oh it looks like Forbes hooked a higher quality of kid than they usually do.
mircea_popescu: when you wait for a compile, the compile waits for you!
asciilifeform: 'kazahstan's prostitutes! cleanest in the region! except of course those of ! uuuuzbekistaaaaaan!!1111' (tm) (r) ('borat')
mircea_popescu: when i was fucking arab girls i insisted they wear the underwear on head rather than ass, to pacify local sentiments.
asciilifeform: i thought the trappings were robe and wizard hat.
mircea_popescu: well, when interviewing hackers it is polite to assume the trappings.
asciilifeform: but wtf with the unitard ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ!111111111
asciilifeform: ah the shitcard
mircea_popescu: they just like to claim association with what they like to imagine impresses us ; we humor them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, let's not read too much into these things. nobody in the dinousaur world has anything even remotely like stable employment, let alone any sort of relationships or whatever.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 14:26 mircea_popescu: tfoxbrewster you the forbes guy ?
BingoBoingo: Or it turns self off with the empty switch?
trinque: I expect they'll turn it back off soon :p
trinque: every time they turn it back on price starts to recover
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol @bitfinex. fortunately article is already written, from last time. http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << ty, fxd qntra buttfunex piece
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/the-longest-s-expression-in-the-history-of-lisp-of-which-computing-science-is-a-subset-of-which-information-technology-is-a-subset-of-which-what-youre-currently-doing-probably-is-a-subset/#comment-117676
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 15:24 mircea_popescu: they have pages worth 20 to 100 mb worth of shitty gifs, but can't display 10mb of a god damned s expression.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 15:36 mircea_popescu: phf you really should make a blog! but meanwhile : http://trilema.com/2016/the-longest-s-expression-in-the-history-of-lisp-of-which-computing-science-is-a-subset-of-which-information-technology-is-a-subset-of-which-what-youre-currently-doing-probably-is-a-subset/
Framedragger: heh yeah, if no POST involved in phpmyadmin reply, and there shouldn't. lol.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger notice the interlocking magic numbers of shit!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger that may explain the part where the first part fails, i guess. but not the 2nd part. both php items (wp, phpmyadmin) should be able to list a 10mb sql record.
mircea_popescu: but yes i'm sure there's "a limit" put in there by people who don't belong touching computers.
mircea_popescu: phf you really should make a blog! but meanwhile : http://trilema.com/2016/the-longest-s-expression-in-the-history-of-lisp-of-which-computing-science-is-a-subset-of-which-information-technology-is-a-subset-of-which-what-youre-currently-doing-probably-is-a-subset/
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 05:13 PHF: i wonder if there are hidden implications to making all nicks case insensitive for /log/
mircea_popescu: they have pages worth 20 to 100 mb worth of shitty gifs, but can't display 10mb of a god damned s expression.
mircea_popescu: if the item in question is uploaded via ssh-mysql directly, phpmyadmin (common mysql interface) dies when trying to say "edit" the column, and wordpress itself fails to pipe the content to apache.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : wordpress interface dies if one tries to publish a 10mb text article with "unknown error". apparently this has never happened before.
mircea_popescu: lol @bitfinex. fortunately article is already written, from last time. http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/
mircea_popescu: incidentally tfoxbrewster : go $register <your full fingerprint>, then the bot will register you and i'll rate you and then you can self-voice.
iKant: :) more on the line of the German Philosopher with a nod to the vogue of the single letter prefix
mircea_popescu: the signature here however is prospective. "this is a signature you don't know what to do with. at some later point, maybe you will."
mircea_popescu: in other words : signatures there were retrospective, attempting to build a historical chain. "this x is that x which you respect so respect this".
mircea_popescu: here, there's no historical establishment. the guy lives through his deeds not through a lengthy, boring story about "hey listen, back in 1920 carnegie and j p morgan were pretty cool so we should still be getting free petrocheese and chinese plastics for this reason".
mircea_popescu: the difference between those two and this third is instructive and important : in those instances, the usg was trying to spin a narrative that'd allow it to claim it's still alive and relevant, in front of proof to the contrary from ~already established accounts~. ie, satoshi.
mircea_popescu: then there was the whole craig whatever incident. where the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) swore as to the authenticity of a gross fake.
mircea_popescu: now, the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) didn't like this, and whined about the signature. so i said : swear it ain't so. in writing. they... didn't.
mircea_popescu: well, at first there was http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/
tfoxbrewster: i am indeed. explain the trifecta/
mircea_popescu: tfoxbrewster well, you familiar with the satoshi/hoaxtoshi communications this year ?
tfoxbrewster: For that reason, I'm certain that the message is a fraud, written by someone who wants to stir up trouble in the community."
tfoxbrewster: If the attacker wrote the message, there would be no reason for him not to provide a valid signature. If the message were written by an impostor, on the other hand, they'd be unable to generate a valid signature, and would have reason to make their message more convincing by adding a fraudulent one.
tfoxbrewster: Their comment: "The message claims to contain a cryptographic signature in the last line. ECDSA signatures of the sort used by Ethereum are 65 bytes (130 hexadecimal digits) long, and end with '00' or '01'. The number at the end of his message is the right length, but ends with '20', making it an invalid signature.
tfoxbrewster: yes. the Ethereum guys are suggesting that the claim you took the ether - http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/#selection-27.210-27.224 - is untrue.
mircea_popescu: tfoxbrewster you the forbes guy ?
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-21#1486188 << quite likely never, we will have gossipd and dispense with the lunacy of centralized wot before then.
mircea_popescu: (seems to me unavoidable, 1bn (atomic) txn ~= 100gb, yet 1bn people that know half a dunbar's number worth of others ~= 100 Gb * however much each record takes.)
mircea_popescu: honestly, i'd be in favour of "just replace all 1 with i and all I with l and take out all non-alphabetic characters". MIRCEA MLRCEA M1RCEA MI_R-CEA > MIRCEA and fuck them.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 05:17 trinque: thing is even if I change the schema I'll probably replace rating with a view of same structure
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-21#1486149 << honestly, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason for rating system to distinguish MP from mP. there is no legitimate reason for two different individuals to be this close ; nor is such nonsense supported. in fact, your scheme should not even permit m1rcea and mircea to be distinct.
thestringpuller: oh look ether huffers ddosing trilema
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell tfoxbrewster certainly not at seven in the morning.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 01:48 mod6: Framedragger: hey, thanks for all your work with the SSH keys.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 20:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, normally i'd have just let you do the conversion locally, but since Framedragger is such an impetuous youth, we're moving fast for once :D
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485895 << heh - incidentally i may be busier afk these days
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:52 phf: you might not notice it, because you look at it from the perspective of release summaries and hacker news posts, but the kind of decisions that go into llvm are ~entirely~ driven by large corporate with large teams and large hardware needs. it's synergistic.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485808 << indeed, release summaries can be deceiving this way i suppose - i see what you mean. i haven't looked at the big picture / general decisions, but i can understand this viewpoint for sure
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:49 phf: Framedragger: despite the rhetoric people here are extremely pragmatic. but when you think about these things there's no reason to allow sloppy thinking. the question is "how much of a dick up your ass is too much dick", and the healthy answer is "none at all". llvm is good technology (it gives you same kind of layering that a decent common lisp compiler does, but for languages that are not used to that kind of richnes
trinque: thestringpuller: what kind of API
trinque: the wot db I got was already all lower iirc, so I have no idea what the capitalization of nicks was originally
trinque: thing is even if I change the schema I'll probably replace rating with a view of same structure
trinque: at which point fixing the caps didn't matter
trinque: I think TomServo's the only one like that; I could just fix it
phf: i wonder if there are hidden implications to making all nicks case insensitive for /log/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/20/the-case-for-an-ar-15-under-every-pillow/#comment-47639
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The case for an AR-15 under every pillow. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/20/the-case-for-an-ar-15-under-every-pillow/
trinque: and the other change that'll affect you is I'm moving it to another box, will let you know of that too
thestringpuller: when is the dao attacker gonna cause more drama. today has been boooring.
mod6: Framedragger: hey, thanks for all your work with the SSH keys.
mod6: this eth implosion has kept the lulztrain running
mircea_popescu: "Solidity" is one of the most aptly named piles of rubbish for purposes of unintentional irony self-crits
mircea_popescu: https://pdaian.com/blog/chasing-the-dao-attackers-wake/ << the guy has correctly identified ~a~ 2nd vulnerability there.
mircea_popescu: then it could be da lish
mircea_popescu: maybe the next sandback da could be named lish somethingortheotherheyinindiaournamesneverend
mircea_popescu: imagine the lawyers laid out swedish style.
mircea_popescu: mostly quoted for the epic lulz of "bufete de abogados". which yes, it's how the spanishtards say law firm.
mircea_popescu: (undersigned john hat, workman without a dick : why should i pay the tax when i can't fuck ? warmly esteemed mr john hat, workman without a tool : while you've got your fingers & tongue the law stands.)
mircea_popescu: but it irked people. you know the poem ?
mircea_popescu: money was meaningless throughout the socialist empire, sure.
mircea_popescu: the cucks bruhaha'd lots and lots an' did nothing about it.
asciilifeform: because the other thing about being a slave is that it doesn't come with any guarantee of slavin' by yesterday's rules
mircea_popescu: and "marriage" means "living toghether" already anyway, which can mean anything the fuck anyone pleases anyway, so...
asciilifeform: and for all i know this is already in the works, in anglo world
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found it especially entertaining how reddit folk (at least used to) believe the 'if only male birth control pill' thing would make any difference (if such thing existed, 'paternity' would simply get redefined, french style, to accomodate cuckoldry)
mircea_popescu: there's ~no way for slave to avoid slavetax. that's the point of having a) slave and b) slavetax.
BingoBoingo: "A 34-year-old woman seduces a 15-year-old boy and becomes pregnant. She gives birth to a daughter and thereafter applies for Aid to Families with Dependent Children. Is the child's father obligated to pay child support even though he is a victim of statutory rape? (Pen. Code, ? 261.5, subd. (d).) We conclude he is liable for child support."
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra | http://www.ofnumbers.com/2015/02/06/what-is-the-blockchain-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << What is the blockchain hard fork “missile crisis?” | Great Wall of ... | https://medium.com/@bramcohen/bitcoin-s-ironic-crisis-32226a85e39f << Bitcoin's Ironic Crisis — Medium
BingoBoingo: Sure. The greatest accomplishment of early Qntra was doing lots while making it look like we weren't doing anything at all. Everything from the site's theme to the tone of that first indictment against GAW was done with this in mind.
BingoBoingo: Much booze was had in these discussions of actual internet marketing and SEO.
BingoBoingo: Working the longlines and seeing what bites.
BingoBoingo: No, not trolling in that sense. Trolling as in fishing, as in doing the actual work of SEO.
mircea_popescu: it's only trolling if you're not backed by the righteous word of teh lord.
BingoBoingo: And GAW was the story that cazalla used to hammer Qntra into being a thing that made our asperzoring competitors feel shame
BingoBoingo: Because 2014 was the year of our lord cazalla
asciilifeform: like any other airplane.
mircea_popescu: in the sense a luxury car is "100k" or a cellphone "1500". yeah, right, read the maintenance contracts.
mircea_popescu: you want waifs go to the will-o-wisp parade.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4p0314/did_bruno_mars_know_about_the_dao_hack_years/
Bugpowder: Hmm… Now 4 fires started in the last 3 hours in LA… Arson?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, romanian redditards found out that mp was also born there, think that "hey, wtf, i don;'t think it can be him. if it were he would be starting a revolution"
Bugpowder: Not sure about streaming to to wherever you are, but the HD video is pretty amazing.
mircea_popescu: oh wait this is in the logs. darn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulziest thing is the VERY expensive "business jet" (embraer phenom) that was made by javascript engineers (won't work at all without gps signal).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they "didn't know" which is how romania went from an agrarian economy in 1935 to the world's petroengineering superpwoer in 1965.
asciilifeform: and the hosts were somehow 'not to know this'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, the anglo crews on ~100% of the gear at the time doubled as saboteurs.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 19:18 asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB552-US-and-Britain-planned-to-destroy-Middle-East-oil-facilities-in-case-of-Soviet-invasion-from-1940s-1960s
mircea_popescu: the false etymology to roman lat vir is particularly endearing.
mircea_popescu: very different (in the sense of being opposite) to pragmatism as a current in anglosaxon thought. which is more like, "keep all doors and windows shut and only open something once you're sure there's nothing there".
mircea_popescu: well, it seems to me to be a very apt summary of the type of pragmatism prevalent here. a sort of "keep horizon maximally open" flavour of pragmatism
phf: right, i mean i'm being dense as far as how that maps to the mini rant
mircea_popescu: yeah, discussion may well continue, but it does altogether not seem likely there's going to be a "chosen respirator"
phf: i honestly though thestringpuller was just being tongue-in-cheek :o
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:55 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: in ru prison, this position, once detected, gets you assigned to pederasty immediately.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485814 << because the russians a) don't understand how the world works and b) are antijwzemitic.
asciilifeform: recall the specificity-of-diddling threads.
asciilifeform: (the sole source is ibm)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:49 phf: Framedragger: despite the rhetoric people here are extremely pragmatic. but when you think about these things there's no reason to allow sloppy thinking. the question is "how much of a dick up your ass is too much dick", and the healthy answer is "none at all". llvm is good technology (it gives you same kind of layering that a decent common lisp compiler does, but for languages that are not used to that kind of richnes
trinque: asciilifeform: does ppc have the mysterymeat cores?
asciilifeform: the whole pile of shit (yes, including arm) must burn.
asciilifeform: likewise the intel and amd boobytrap cores dun go away when we close eyes.
asciilifeform: unfortunately that isn't remotely the end of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. i just meant the vidcard gnarl could maybe be excised in a politically defensible manner. historically it was ~60 to 70% of all the mess.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:42 asciilifeform: for so long as 'you can't buy this video board any moar' is a thing, at ALL, there neither is nor can be such a thing as sane driver set.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485787 << well, at least in theory this problem could be resolved by saying "we only do servers" at least at first.
asciilifeform: does it matter to the stonecutters?
asciilifeform: whether it is kim jong up, to build statue of himself out of them, or apple - dun matter.
asciilifeform: for so long as ~somebody~ buys those 100,000 - you can make the next batch.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this is not terribly related. "whether it's a collie or a terrier it still bit me"
mircea_popescu: so the drones "make the decision" to "buy" one with "their" "money" aka corp scrip on loan from the corp.
mircea_popescu: take modems. who buys them ? telcos. take say smartphones. who buys them ? corporations. literally, not just because they "issue" the drones one, but because they decide which is the "in" one to have.
mircea_popescu: i have doubts, as an anthropologist i mean, that this was EVER actually the case. it seems altogether plausible that the ~idea~ of turdmarket driving things was perceived as "likely to occur" in general and perhaps circumstantially occuring in some spots, but the trends are separating not joining
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems altogether improbable that as of today the turdmarket is the driver of anything.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:35 Framedragger: these abstract rebuttals always confuse me
asciilifeform: for so long as mass turdmarket is ~the~ driver of manufacture, there will be only the equivalent of 'winmodems' to choose from iron-wise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ocean WILL dry out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we have the power to standardize the iron, maybe, through the process of selection.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485741 << BingoBoingo keeps the bsd flame alive, and others maybe (mod6 ?) but... it's really a murky point yet.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit re dos is that it was felled precisely by the same hardware tower of babel which gave us a multi-MB linux turdkernel
mircea_popescu: if it is linux, it probably is more like debian sarge or gentoo whatever from 2003 than anything visible in the wild. fuck, it probably should be more like ibm-dos really.
mircea_popescu: the path to bitcoinfs intersects a tmsr-os/loper-os/whatever-we-end-up-calling-it-os, just...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:23 phf: i'm about to provision another machine based on asciilifeform's gentoo depotatoing, but i really wish tmsr had a better official distro
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 17:39 trinque: if I can avoid working on a btcalpha replacement I'll be hacking on the payment system for deedbot
mircea_popescu: don't clean it up TOO much first, either. cheese gotta have some cheese flavour.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 15:23 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485638 << btcbase is deployed using v (not quite fully automatically yet though), and there's all kind of support infrastructure in that folder that i don't want to diff every time, but also don't want to shuffle around
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485691 << this is a major win, you'll have to publish the thing.
mircea_popescu: jurov is it practical to just "do the same thing as Framedragger " ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, normally i'd have just let you do the conversion locally, but since Framedragger is such an impetuous youth, we're moving fast for once :D
mircea_popescu: recall, jurov parsed all of github, produced a pile of keys and the convertor code
asciilifeform: all xx mil of them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in case you missed it, he converted all the keys, i loaded, and they are being fed in even now.
jurov: i already explained I have no problem to convert, just that it will balloon the data up
mircea_popescu: we'll need a convertor anyway, the problem of non-compliant rsa implementation isn't going to go away suddenyl.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485868 << phuctor is unchanged - Framedragger converted the ssh keys to pgp format.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 16:00 Framedragger: here's more of him on dao and sleeping with students http://techgenix.com/mathematics-ethereum-hack/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485681 <<< lol @poor schmuck hallucinating self "novelist", deciding to press on ANYWAY in spite of craig derp beheading because he also hallucinates himself some sort of postmodern orpheus who;'s gonna lyre the beasts to sleep, only to fall flat.
asciilifeform: they are already being fed in
trinque: "I suspect because tmsr is being lax about read-the-logs beatings."
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 20:43 asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you send me a tarball, they'll go in wholesale.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 15:41 asciilifeform: this incidentally is why phuctor had been a depressing thing for me. the thing i set out to find, i never found (evidence of diddled rng on pgp users' boxes.)
trinque: asciilifeform said he *would* feed them in.
jurov: or i misread the discussion?
mircea_popescu: all the butthurt people, oh noes. what shall we ever do!
mircea_popescu: altogether not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently the uk is looking at legal options to implement a recursive splitting from the eu and subsequently drain all euros.
mircea_popescu: in other "internet of things" lulz, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/c4fd4dd1-38d7-4cd8-b571-b415dd7c9919/
asciilifeform: (jammer is most usually ~below~ the victim, genuine article - above.)
trinque: the thing has to be emergency landed if GPS is lost?
trinque: who builds these things?
asciilifeform: recommends EMB Phenom pilots avoid the … testing area and closely monitor flight control systems,” the Notam reads.'
asciilifeform: 'The tests will potentially knock out all GPS-reliant services including WAAS, GBAS and, notably, ADS-B. The FAA also doesn’t want a lot of radio chatter about the outages and is urging pilots to report them if they need help from ATC. Operators of Embraer Phenom 300 business jets are being urged to avoid the area entirely. “Due to GPS Interference impacts potentially affecting Embraer 300 aircraft flight stability controls, FAA
asciilifeform: in yet other lulz,
asciilifeform: but by this time Research Publications, a Connecticut company, had sent it along with other microfiched documents to libraries across the country. The microfiche weren’t recalled after a government decision – it’s not clear by whom – that it would arouse attention. '
asciilifeform: 'NSC 26/2 was mistakenly declassified in 1985 by an archivist at the Truman Presidential Library which is part of the National Archives and Records Administration. A library official in a legal deposition deemed it the worst security breach in the National Archives’ history. A furious CIA demanded the archivist be fired, but he remained a library employee after losing his top-secret clearance. NSC 26/2 was reclassified top secret,
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB552-US-and-Britain-planned-to-destroy-Middle-East-oil-facilities-in-case-of-Soviet-invasion-from-1940s-1960s
thestringpuller: "You know, I spend a lot of time, you know, thinking about all the shit I could've done. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I think, I could've been the motherfucking president. Shit. Nigga, I wish things had've been different. I mean, I'd do anything in the motherfucking world just for things to be different. I guess I'm just gonna be raping niggas' asses for the rest of my motherfucking life." - Random Prisoner Who Thought He Woul
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: in ru prison, this position, once detected, gets you assigned to pederasty immediately.
thestringpuller: of course the cost of that is your life. sometimes a prisoner would rather have dick up butt than shiv in kidney.
phf: you might not notice it, because you look at it from the perspective of release summaries and hacker news posts, but the kind of decisions that go into llvm are ~entirely~ driven by large corporate with large teams and large hardware needs. it's synergistic.
thestringpuller: not even just a little dick up the butthole?
phf: t it), but unlike federated gcc, llvm is owned entirely by apple and greater extent other apple aligned corporations. their interests are ~opposite~ to those of enterprising individuals.
phf: Framedragger: despite the rhetoric people here are extremely pragmatic. but when you think about these things there's no reason to allow sloppy thinking. the question is "how much of a dick up your ass is too much dick", and the healthy answer is "none at all". llvm is good technology (it gives you same kind of layering that a decent common lisp compiler does, but for languages that are not used to that kind of richness, so everyone's excited abou
asciilifeform: 'i rode a tank, held a general's rank, while the blitzkrieg rages and the bodies stank...' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: with current fabrication tech, the cost of fabricating any quantity of sane computer could never be earned back.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: we had this thread also a dozen times.
asciilifeform: this is why the only tmsr silicon worth making is an fpga.
asciilifeform: nor does the effort of attempting sane os pay off, lacking stable iron.
asciilifeform: for so long as 'you can't buy this video board any moar' is a thing, at ALL, there neither is nor can be such a thing as sane driver set.
trinque: if I had another pair of hands I'd finish porting portage over
asciilifeform: even if you reduce the 20 to, say, 5.