adlai studies https://online-go.com/puzzle/2907 (HTML5 turd containing the first third of Cho Chikun's "Encyclopedia of Life & Death")
trinque: "but my true worth is denominated in the love of god!"
adlai: it also helps that bitcoin has found the motivation to do the dance again, timed well with my asylum exit
adlai: i'm glad to have stopped! and have found again the motivation to bitcoin
trinque: this is the fucking definition of power
trinque: as their ability to wield economic activity in the world declines, they grow smaller and less powerful
asciilifeform: http://crimebaltimore.com << but scam. the 'shootings' in particular -- they have these automated detectors, one cannot infer that ~somebody~ caught the bullet
trinque: or at all, if the ask is a poorly formed question
trinque: you've observed some things can't be had for any price depending on the configuration of the world at that time
trinque: some of the people at the "top" of the US economy might survive just like some in the USSR did
asciilifeform: the numbers are not so interesting
trinque: they own the same number of lockheed martins and johnson and johnson's, and this is separate and untouchable, meanwhile the currency that flows through their veins evaporates?
trinque: asciilifeform │ wtf does it mean to 'cost' the folks with the printing press something. << same as it cost whatever fake "elite" zimbabwe had, but more spectacularly?
asciilifeform: these are elsewhere
mircea_popescu: now, it's true that baltimore was scoring ~400 homicides / 100k, which IS notable, though perhaps a tad short for what he's depicting. nevertheless - that was in the early 90s.
mircea_popescu: (yes, /me suspects he's ~mostly eating shit. baltimore homicide rate still the same 30ish / 100k it's anywhere else ; rape with violence the same 40, robbery the same 500, assault the same 500, etc.)
mircea_popescu: police still publishes these i imagine. day and half worth of intern's time.
mircea_popescu: rather than a bs "here's some colors because we're from the special needs kindergarten", could "the baltimore expert guy" instead provide a heatmap with all the murders, stabbings, whatnot ? could have a little card, date, people involved, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/#comment-62660 << check it out, qntra worthy of its own pinoy dept nao ? who could have predicted!
asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/#comment-62660 << lulzy
asciilifeform: they still have same # of turkeys.
mircea_popescu: ie, more than the 2008 crisis.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder how eeurope'd have looked today had the soviets managed to dredge on.
mircea_popescu: buy thermotransfer crap in turkey, for like 10 bux a pile of 100, sell them for like ten bucks a pop. "advanced!"
mircea_popescu: o fuck, that was THE best deal of 1992.
mircea_popescu: you're from like the punk movement arent you.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2014/06 << June 2014 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2014 << NEXT: 28-07-2014 | http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao << They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.
mod6: <+shinohai> Have a tshirt made with that pic of mircea_popescu in Egypt, but replace the pyramids with burning ethereum logos. << the drawing of Mr. P. that was made a while back would be a good t-shirt.
mircea_popescu: phf actually this isn't a terribru idea, make shirts with the numbered tits.
mircea_popescu: rarely has such large a collection of entirely inept shitheads been so utterly exposed.
phf: just pictures of all the "show your tits" girls on white t-shirts American Apparel style
shinohai: Have a tshirt made with that pic of mircea_popescu in Egypt, but replace the pyramids with burning ethereum logos.
mircea_popescu: in other news, ethereumgear.com now advertises in google searches for me. because yeah, totally.
phf: there's a video of a guy doing a pitch, some nice fonts, stripe integration. it is now, it is happening
mircea_popescu: is it hiperer than the previous ?
mircea_popescu: phf is this for the people who bought battleships, islands, now they can buy asteroids, next alphabet letters...
mircea_popescu: anyway. #etherape right on schedule.
mircea_popescu: "AND WE ALL R AGREES IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO!"
mircea_popescu: they were playing bridge and someone was about to say 1nt with akj in 6 hearts.
asciilifeform: what was it mircea_popescu said, 'never interrupt an enemy who is in the middle of fellating his nagant'
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4qb4kz/this_is_intolerably_ridiculous_hard_fork_and_move/d4rr6t3 <<< naturally this guy gets downboats
asciilifeform: in other lulz: http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users << somebody sued microshit and won
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492457 << so basically, as part of its ongoing cold war against insufficiently-pliable torvalds, the usg through its usg.twitter agency... repurposed what it claims to be "linus' account", ie, a voodoo doll they made for him. and this somehow is supposed to reflect on the man ? why, because we're all from the great nation of africa and ergo fucktarded in the brain ?
mircea_popescu: and, of course, let's not forget historical posturing https://archive.is/iKC07 by the TRULY professional slock.it "all staer" team : simon jentzsch (founder & "ceo"), christoph jentzch (founder's relative & "CTO"), stephan tual (staph patient & coockoo), lefteris karapetsas, griff green, colm herbert, and the one, the only, dr! christian reitwiessner, the creator of stolidity!
mircea_popescu: and to round the lolz farm, " The code was open-sourced on March 3rd, so experts had almost two months to find vulnerabilities before it was deployed. It was also audited (at an alleged cost of $250k) by the same firm that audited geth before the frontier launch." (you remember, by the "dejavu" derps, that proud scion of bitcoin security of bitcoinica days. https://archive.is/yZ0ke )
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 21:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492429 << the link is quite germane. even as late as 1800 romanian popular geography included "muscali cu coada", literally, moscow people had tails, like a cat.
mircea_popescu: gotta love it when the "solution" to the "solution" consists of PLEASE DONT RUN OUR CODE
asciilifeform: 'I could not understand, this is a company who had a hard hit by a bug, yet they could able to hit again by a bug. Okey they have pressure on they back but this is a second market crush. I'm so sad to see this post.'
mircea_popescu: wasn't it fixed ? i thought THEY WERE COMING AFTER ME!!11
mircea_popescu: lol someone plugged the router cable ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492429 << the link is quite germane. even as late as 1800 romanian popular geography included "muscali cu coada", literally, moscow people had tails, like a cat.
drizztdourden: we are connected to the same router
mircea_popescu: lol dude... check out all the obscure venues where people discuss me knowingly.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 18:26 trinque: http://thesuiteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/michael-hussar-michaelhussar-oil-canvas-painting-art.jpg << googled hussar for visual, got...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 15:02 mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492083 << out of loop; soo, many awesome bitcoin nodes actually run on the same host? kinda hilarious / sad
Framedragger: that's a start for sure. sometimes cartographers from far away lands not connected to your network of trust, i guess. but then perhaps no need to trust much about far away lands anyway
Framedragger: problem when world is big and you need to trust other cartographers, i guess
Framedragger: those opinions and past rumours on the nets are sort of detrimental if anything to the experimental effort which is sorely needed in all areas here
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:57 mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ;
midnightmagic: Ah, okay, so the first one is dated Feb 19 2012. And I have another one here from Dec 6 2015. I'll zip up the 2012 one and post a URL and signature.
midnightmagic: Okie doke. I originally downloaded a copy of it because I was having a discussion with some peeps about fingerprinting keys and preferences and bitsizes to see how unique various peoples' choices were, and then just never went anywhere with it.
asciilifeform: (or rather, nail it in the negative, if evidence of such turns up. otherwise it stays open)
asciilifeform: for one thing, we could nail the question of whether the sks folk tell the truth in re 'nothing is ever removed'
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: If you are interested in a copy of the SKS keyset as of.. I want to say mid-2012 or so (the same one that was used as evidence that Craig Wright backdated his keys) I can stuff it into an archive for you.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, i have nfi what this is : https://gist.github.com/rgov/c605161835a78ebea095fee9429c8c8a
BingoBoingo: Would not sign a contract with, disqualified from being the devil.
trinque: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f4/36/2a/f4362a9c0e8650babb6aec4e64dc2656.jpg << I have another one for BingoBoingo
trinque: http://thesuiteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/michael-hussar-michaelhussar-oil-canvas-painting-art.jpg << googled hussar for visual, got...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The censored bits really detract from my motivation to do anything with it, but if someone else has the inclinations to do it...
asciilifeform: ^ and other lulz.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: i have the thing scroll.
asciilifeform: thus far no rejects in the logs.
mircea_popescu: the point being that if there's less than 1 moduli known added for each ssh submission processed, we got a problem there.
asciilifeform: (covering ALL moduli in the db, not merely 'queued')
asciilifeform: but yes, i will outline the algo, when you throw in a key, you get +1 'submissions', regardless of whether said key has moduli, and +M known moduli, where M is the number of rsa moduli in said pgp key.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 12:38 a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 10:30 mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn't these add up ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487874 << we're up 440k in the first score and 200k on the 2nd. is this still from recent sks dump being put in ?
mircea_popescu: and in the daily trilema roulette, http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform top tweet, "your chains can only be broken by our patented AA method, join the cult now!"
mircea_popescu: hi there drizztdourden
asciilifeform: 'Hard Fork: A hard fork would put a decisive end to the ongoing corewars game that is being played.' << lel somebody reads them l0gz
mircea_popescu: hopefully the woman gets elected, we turn that into a cool trillion.
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform, there you go : that's how they paid ~200mn to terrorists past two weeks.
mircea_popescu: lmao, as part of the democrats' "bitcoin is terrorist money" initiative ?
mircea_popescu: hey, this just means they were successful startup amirite ?
mircea_popescu: well... we were younger, then.
asciilifeform: the american sci-am (to '90s) was similar
mircea_popescu: if my collection of kvant taught me anything, it's definitely the best of all investments - paperwork of the old library.
asciilifeform: it was a 'buy now or wait another decade' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you gonna photocopy the sa, for when phf has the tits svg'er ready ?
asciilifeform: namely, that welfare state would make use of the machine to produce vaguely-plausible nonsense in gargantuan quantities, in precisely this manner
mircea_popescu: (brought to you by the people who believe closing factories and making "transfer payments" to "workers" is a superior pareto alternative to soviet planned economy)
mircea_popescu: "Additionally, planners had to aggregate many types of goods and inputs into a single material balance because it was impossible to create an individual balance for each of the approximately 24 million items produced and consumed in the USSR." << ftr, this is actually actively pursued by yellen & co.
asciilifeform: up to the 1998 shitocalypse
mircea_popescu: dawg they're great. iron maiden ftw.
asciilifeform: phf: in usa they sometimes speak of 'porkbarreling' but it is imho not quite same thing.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw what was the intended reference for tyrone ?
phf: hmm i wonder what's english equivalent for распил. i think the word is as apropos, but just doesn't exist
mircea_popescu: mit, whatever. so they go around, copy/paste code from expert sex change, and that's it.
shinohai: http://futurism.com/protein-uncovered-that-stops-arteries-from-clogging/ <<< Hail the U of Missouri BingoBoingo !!!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 15:59 mircea_popescu: seems altogether just a "ms office shanonizer" job, they got stuff from the internets and copy-pasted it into a "government official blabla"
mircea_popescu: what are you, from the future ?
asciilifeform: couldn't they walk a script for the verboten addr ~before~ running it ? or does the shitlang allow dynamic generation of addrs and you ~must~ run
mircea_popescu: well, what they understood of it at any rate. i take no responsibility for the shitheads.
asciilifeform: http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/28/ethereum-soft-fork-dos-vector << parent link, explains what mircea_popescu was suggesting last night ?
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4q9ewf/ethereums_dao_wars_soft_fork_is_a_potential_dos/d4r8060 << sauce for given quote
mircea_popescu: etc etc. where bugs live, these bugs live.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original fuckups, ie, slock.it, is a "company" of the web sort that runs some shitty proprietary irc. so there's that. then there's reddit, twitter, livejournal, facebook
mircea_popescu: anyway. if anyone's following the lulzdrama : ethereum people realise their "fix" ie softfork will in fact be defeated, want hard fork nao.
mircea_popescu: seems altogether just a "ms office shanonizer" job, they got stuff from the internets and copy-pasted it into a "government official blabla"
asciilifeform: ok THERE it is
mircea_popescu: and break state of the art pdf converters
mircea_popescu: also not too much math squigglies they make sally's head hurt.
asciilifeform: i'ma consult 'the of'.
mircea_popescu: it's the number of! say if we knew 97 is the number of solidity exploits, then solidity would finally be solid.
asciilifeform has a book on his shelf, titled THE OF
mircea_popescu: now you know it, nothing bad can happen from there.
asciilifeform: The Number Of
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a nononon, this isn't a count. this is THE NUMBER OF! you know how they say "i got their number" ? like that!
mircea_popescu: then everyone can have the number of the exploit embroidered on their underwear and there'll be no more exploits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sometime btw, someone should undertake the job of finding the number of the exploit. you know, do with the maths or system theory or something, like that lisp thing.
mircea_popescu: the only error there is to imagine "against their will". no dude, literally, it is built by the slaves.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i gave at the common office, mr exploit, pls don't fuck me."
mircea_popescu: no, they just wanted to.
mircea_popescu: my right to mock the shit out of idiots is fundamental and can not be abridged.
mircea_popescu: "David Chasteen hired a law firm and that members of the list should have no contact with David Chasteen or discussions about him." << what the fuck is this crap ?
asciilifeform: ^ the mental process of homo phpicus exposed
asciilifeform: 'common patterns to avoid them' << gold
thestringpuller: aha. then mats comment makes more sense. ty.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, random derp on twitter, "Can anyone point me to a summary of solidity exploits and common patterns to avoid them?". really bitch, you want the COMMON solution ? common fucking MADE the exploits! holy shit.
deedbot: [Qntra] How The Tor Project Pays And Pays CIA Agents From Their USG.Navy Coffers - http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/
mircea_popescu: "there can be no fork unless it includes this".
thestringpuller: Aha. "peace" is the part I didn't understand. "the prequisite" is a treaty, not a war proclamation.
mircea_popescu: necessarily, in order for such an agreement to be had, "everyone" must deploy "the prerequisite".
mircea_popescu: item B is a discussion of peace, ie, what's the absolute minimal required basis for an agreement.
mircea_popescu: item A is a discussion of what at the time was a possible outcome, something of the kind of "if we don't fortify these walls and enemy army comes over, we're fucked". this has been muchly degraded meanwhile, principally by "well, every march lord on their path has harried the fuck out of them, and so not much of an army left".
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller anyone who feels like it.
thestringpuller: so who deploys "the prequisite"?
mircea_popescu: o noes, guyse, why is eth dropping ? i thought they fixed it!
thestringpuller: I don't see a good scenario where TRB could deploy a fork i.e. "the prequisite".
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might as well close.
mircea_popescu: what're you on about thestringpuller ?
asciilifeform: anything other than unconditional capitulation to trb, == prb.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:55 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what specifically did you have in mind ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492068 << No specifics just a solution to push "The Prequisite" through.
mircea_popescu: and obviously enough, jewish groups trying to boycott german goods in the 1930s us is tghe exact equivalent of obscure rapper dude saying things about trump to an audience of obscure wanna-be rapper, wanna-be gay, wanna-be mit etc dudes.
mircea_popescu: from the two kids in schoolyard ("ce ma, te crezi smecher ???") to the empire falling apart or uk/argentina going to war notwithstanding the disaster it is for both, crisis of representativity -> conflict.
mircea_popescu: and, in classical theory, crisis of representativity is always resolved through open warfare.
mircea_popescu: crisis of representativity, this is it. when people are so confused about what they stand for and whom they stand before, they end up achieving counter-intentional results.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure this'll lose trump some votes in the 12% black + 4% lgbtdskfhkejrhdfg community, and gain him some in the 78% white and pissed group.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check it out, the top hit is about how he wore a don't trump america jacket.
thestringpuller: one day Bieber will run off with your wife, but then again I guess that's the point you were making with shitty American girls.
mircea_popescu: (where revolutionary means what it in fact means - what the earth does around the sun is a revolution)
mircea_popescu: no, as in the 11 or 95 yo that lets people in cinema hall
asciilifeform: usher, as in 'the house of ' ??!
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller even better!
mircea_popescu: what, there's no bullying so nobody's gonna fuck your shit up for being a loser and admitting it.
thestringpuller: The only cure for Chronic Bitch Dependency is learning how to control the bitch and make her behave- hit the bitch if she doesn't do what you say until you achieved desired results.
mircea_popescu: (meanwhile back at the party house, A : http://67.media.tumblr.com/d73cd8b9c93c23df097d4183fe3463a7/tumblr_mu0mciNBEN1qg7xwvo2_400.gif B : http://66.media.tumblr.com/a7ba4153b4f7dd56c8c6272f7074819b/tumblr_mu0mciNBEN1qg7xwvo3_400.gif )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You forget today's American girl happiy makes a sandwich, but can't hold itself together enough to make it to the next room with out eating the sandwich (repeat x5 times)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yea, i'm sure they do, until "real guys" say "bitch, get in there and make sandwiches" at which point "real guys are too hard and redditards are too soft and i'ma spend five hours on the phone with my "friend" ie exactly equivalent part."
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:21 mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << the problem with this approach is that bribing is for losers. i for instance never bribed anyone, THEY BRIBED ME! because what the fuck is this, i'm going to pay derpy mayor/judge/whatever ? how about he buys his wife from me each year for the love of fuck!
mircea_popescu: take any girl, stick her in the "modern democracy" box, she becomes fat.
thestringpuller: trinque: no. most of my female friends prefer "actual guys" you know the ones who don't live at home in their mom's basement jerking off to girls on reddit all day.
mircea_popescu: the temptation to vegetate is great. absent a driver, plants will plant.
mircea_popescu: and the shit they netflix isn't even fit for in-flight entertainment, admittedly a low bar.
thestringpuller: exactly. but unattractive in the way of "get the fuck away from me I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on earth"
mircea_popescu: you should see the local herps. "i like staying home and netflix".
trinque: his female friends must suck then.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: as dan mocsny pointed out, 'creepy' is a word which largely means 'unattractive but not yet castrated'
mircea_popescu: trinque no, they're saying "i got all the food i could possibly need and this clicker thing. wut ?"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller has little to do with redditor per se, they find everything creepy for the reason and in the way pig finds everything too tall.
trinque: they're saying weak
thestringpuller: everytime I hang out wiht my female friends and ask them about guys, its usually how creepy they are.
mircea_popescu: ie, "they want consensus".
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
mircea_popescu: in short : salvation can not come from the mass of people. the mass of people is here for one thing only, and that is to supply holocaust fuel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, idiots are idiots, and if their favourite idiocy is denied in bitcoin, they reddit desperately until they find a doge/ripple/ether replacement.
asciilifeform: 'when DEC Alpha existed, did you motherfuckers buy?? no?? have fun'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain that anyone PRESENTLY has the real option to 'be varied in hardware'
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
asciilifeform: i.e. plugged in solely to each other via ssh tunnels etc
asciilifeform: the other interesting spice in the mix is that some unknown number of nodez are 'dark'
mircea_popescu: so : they have the option to be varied in hardware. not only they don't take it : they AMPLY eschew it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the existential, fundamental, first and foremost threat to bitcoin is emerging to be, the essentially centralizing nature of the modern human. slave's born to live in empire, so if there's a lot of slaves, there'll be an empire. once nero died it wasn't a case of "ah fucking finally, now we can go back to republic". no, it was "WE MUST HAS EMPEROR! EVEN GALBA!"
asciilifeform: that wouldn't create chorus of 'all these 5,000 nominally distinct nodes down for 20 minutes'
mircea_popescu: but, factually, there COULD be other reasons behind it. such as you know, hosts offer centos 7 prestamped on dedicated boxes, and so therefore, everyone runs centos 7
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 12:49 a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 11:31 thestringpuller: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/a-bitcoin-com-mining-pool-t8999.html << why did our pool never get off the ground?
mircea_popescu: the fact remains it's trivial to run gluster/galera on 5000 boxes and have what appears 5000 independent nodes that neverthelss have all the solidity of a puppet install.
mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous.
asciilifeform: for all i know, mine are the only working ones presently
asciilifeform: (there is ~no mechanical way to count)
asciilifeform: R2 "yeah, like less than 50." << it bothers me that i actually have NO IDEA how many
mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ; R3 : "maybe in 19
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492041 << linked mainly for the last line: 'settled out of court'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what specifically did you have in mind ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: if you call punching someone in the dick when they get out of control a bribe...sure
Framedragger: http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/ suggests there's more of fridge on the internet than there should be
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << let's also bribe the cockroaches in the kitchen to 'vote' to leave ?
Framedragger: i would like to scan the whole /0 0:65535 range some time though, i'm sure there'd be quite a few ssh servers lurking behind strange ports, and quite a lot of them could be old embedded gadgets. just speculation tho
mircea_popescu: so then your q has pretty good answers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most units of recent vintage have the port closed
mircea_popescu: i suppose isps filter incoming for the domestic space (not out of any safety concern, just, to not sell a useful service, which is anathema in usian style economy)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, i just tried to ssh to a few known home routers. no answer. try it yourself.
asciilifeform: is a financial crash (which was inevitable in any case; see “Ponzi scheme” above) then that is blamed on their bad choices at the polls.'
asciilifeform: ' If they don’t want to see their country overrun by illegal migrants (note that having had you country destroyed by NATO does not qualify you for political asylum) then they are called racist and bigoted. If they fail to grasp some of the finer points of EU’s bureaucratic governance (because, frankly, who would want to waste time on all that nonsense?) then they are called ignorant and misguided. And, most importantly, if there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be curious to see where all the rng-less home routers etc. went
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 11:47 jurov: Framedragger, imo we should mix few interesting failures into the data. otherwise we risk getting kicked out from tmsr :D
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:05 Framedragger: asciilifeform: but have you considered that there are fewer implementations for ssh (and the better part of the ssh servers in the wild run openssh), and more implementations for all kinds of broken pgp? so it may simply be less likely to spot a badly generated ssh key.
thestringpuller: shinohai: Them is fighting words...
thestringpuller: mats: nah. if it's truly believed miners are well enough gripped by the balls, it's not a big deal.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:01 Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes dingledine & other sleepers (reilly, whatever) push for chasteen and whoever the fuck else to "be hired", because that's how their job goes.
mircea_popescu: nuts, teh "technology" an' its effects on the herd.
mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.