reydev: seems like a missing piece to the puzzle tho...
mircea_popescu: reydev not unless it looks like the mage girls in your favourite mmorpg.
mircea_popescu: shinohai kinda why i put this in the open, so people can come up with a good name maybe.
mircea_popescu: aha. besides, he's just the man to do it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: worth a shot. will be good for a boatload of lulz in either case
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's see about that. either it's not the case, in which case we now have a us church, or it is the case, in which case we have yet another harpoon in the whale's back.
asciilifeform: my observation was that mircea_popescu can indeed put 'pope' on his business card, right now!1111 - but to be ~untaxed~ pope in usgschwitz, you gotta be in favour with the current clitler
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if that's true, we're exactly the gang for it. match made in heaven.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 10:40 jurov: Why are you asking us about software?” is the line that Mr. Ng said he often hears from miners.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493152 << neato. do we have 'rated' command, so the thing can be in the l0gz ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 12:03 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493057 << hopefully not one of those expensive pets.
asciilifeform: as evidence - obummer recently had the tax-exemption of a number of quite standard christian churches revoked, on account of their opposition to obummerism. beyond a little bit of bad press, nothing happened.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 12:51 mircea_popescu: i want you to research the legal status of a registered church in the us, as well as the practicalities of registering one. this is a serious project, and i expect 100s of hours spent reading up on it. gpgram me about it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493182 << this ~just might~ be one of those 'bmore real estate' animals, where, e.g., scientology gets away with it and laughs all the way to the bank, but 'peyote church' - doesn't
shinohai: In other news, r/btc is celebrating this morning imagining that angry miners will soon adopt Classic and usher in the fork.
asciilifeform: 'Additionally, information is not available to the general public who may not be aware that they are on such a list, but whose bank accounts and business transactions may be cancelled without warning or recourse. Banks are not required by law to provide consumers with a reason for account closures, and World-Check has a binding secrecy clause for users of the service.'
BingoBoingo: Is authentic? https://thestack.com/security/2016/06/29/2-million-person-terror-database-leaked-online/
shinohai: For the purpose of getting a designated shitting street named after Preeeeeet.
shinohai: ty BingoBoingo send donations for the designated shitting street to 1preetzHWEUfmGuW5ast5hMTJNYU1bmGo
mircea_popescu: i want you to research the legal status of a registered church in the us, as well as the practicalities of registering one. this is a serious project, and i expect 100s of hours spent reading up on it. gpgram me about it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: Why are you asking us about software?” is the line that Mr. Ng said he often hears from miners.
jurov: Mr. Wu and the other mining pool operators in China have often seemed somewhat surprised, and even unhappy, that their investments have given them decision-making power within the Bitcoin network. “Miners are the hardware guys.
trinque: then perhaps also whatever thinger is running your proggy
ben_vulpes: intrigued to see what the response looks like.
trinque: both use the same "throw this here paste at mr ben_vulpes" function
trinque: ben_vulpes: ey is there a max size of a paste?
trinque: ah derp it's the paste uploader barfing.
trinque: it's bitching about that. after which I will have a $wot command that pastes the whole thing
phf: and THEN i'm going to do wot
phf: and then i want to make search case-insensitive, which turned out to be iffy with boyermoore
phf: i have a backlog of making bot pull from backup logger in case of disconnect, which is the last bit before auto-reconnecting-bot
phf: i don't want to know! it's much nicer when the whole thing's in memory :>
trinque: for gettrust I just join the same table twice
trinque: I put the blame on us ending up with the idiotic web, REST APIs, and etc squarely on IRC having been designed by monkeys
pete_dushenski feels himself becoming ryan gosling's character in 'the believer'
phf: i have a bunch of sites blocked on my router, google's and facebook's ip ranges, reddit, hackernews, but sometimes i load them up in hidemyass to see how things are on the other side of the world
phf: All the best from Paris,
phf: “The streets of Paris are sad. I want to build a robot that will make them happy again. I’ve already starting learning how to code on Thymio robots, but I have trouble making it work. I want to join the program so the mentors can help me.”
phf: "A 10-year-old Girl Applied to the Paris Summer Innovation Fellowship (facebook.com)"
trinque: gave it the old college try?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: so you saw the play with her ? 'sent' sounded like a solo recon mission
mircea_popescu: next they're gonna wear bell bottoms.
asciilifeform: theoretically.
asciilifeform: (in the last week of original actors, 12-15k)
pete_dushenski: 'hamilton', for those blissfully unaware, is this 'hip' new play written by some mexican queer about founding father alexander hamilton's rise to glory complete with more break dancing and rapped lyrics than you can throw a harlem globetrotter at
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 02:57 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492971 << for all the times i've heard the exclusively alfian term of art 'kakotronic', it's never quite registered. care to explain like i'm 5 ?
mircea_popescu: it's a style where you import gold by the galleon only to see rents go up and not much else.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski didn't work for italy because, in spite of rural shithole, nevertheless delusions of grandeur, and unwarranted impressions that "we've already smoked this joint".
BingoBoingo: Eh, he's just trying to rockefeller the sun
pete_dushenski: also, it would appear that musk's scammy usg-funded acquisition of one of his failed enterprises by his other failing enterprise missed the logs.
pete_dushenski: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-29/-tesla-solar-wants-to-be-the-apple-store-for-electricity << speaking of the infantile mindset.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 00:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492971 << for all the times i've heard the exclusively alfian term of art 'kakotronic', it's never quite registered. care to explain like i'm 5 ?
BingoBoingo: What would have been wrong with 1950's folk using nylon drain pipe while they waited for PVC to arrive?
shinohai: I rather like older tools, don't mod the maintenance. Most tools sold in stores locally are garbage.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though the power of this thing. With the occasional squirt of PB Blaster no fitting has failed to yeild to patience and pipe wrench.
shinohai: I used to do the homebrew electrolysis thing to remove rust.
shinohai: Did your vinegar bath help fix the yardsale wrench btw?
BingoBoingo: Adventures in Pipe wrench ownership milestone #3 Disassembling everything to the wall, and debating whether or not to wake up reciprocating saw to open wall.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 00:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.
trinque: anyone happen to know the message rate limit on freenode?
asciilifeform: (my 'ship' didn't cost me anything, it was a prize for solving the original puzzle he posted)
asciilifeform: but yes, even then mr mold was quite explicit about making the thing a 'usg-hypoallergenic' altcoin.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492482 << l0l! the 'battleships' (now 'galaxies') were for sale a few yrs back, even, when i sold mine
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 23:06 pete_dushenski: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/social-security-administration/486410/ << my feefees! y u no make phree monzeez eeeezy peeezzy ??!
shinohai: What's with this eth/dao surge in price, did butterin float more usd into the mess?
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2iYjI265rk << in other "we've made a huge tiny mistake", volkswagen "tdi settlement program" gears up. message from na ceo hinrich woebcken to dealers in video. what a putz. transparent scam to 'sell' new vw units through 'buybacks'.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 00:34 asciilifeform: what was it mircea_popescu said, 'never interrupt an enemy who is in the middle of fellating his nagant'
a111: Logged on 2015-10-12 15:02 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296856 << china likes us start-up culture and its effects. "never interrupt enemy when making a mistake". traditionally you wouldn't have the gall to pointedly help him, either, but i think mr xi correctly inferred ustardian head too far up ass to even notice.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 02:09 mircea_popescu: buy thermotransfer crap in turkey, for like 10 bux a pile of 100, sell them for like ten bucks a pop. "advanced!"
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492527 << up there with burning music cds for kids w/o napster or cd burner for $20(!) when cd cost $1
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 15:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492670 << ofc i just had to mentioned that mougayar was never in the logs in last contravex. except now he is..
pete_dushenski: how well the glove fits.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 19:41 mircea_popescu: but since the answer's not that readily translatable, let's delve. "x de y" is a very common pattern of early childhoold romanian construction, so much so that it's a byword for infantilism.
pete_dushenski: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ?
pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/28/researchers-have-found-that-war-has-a-remarkable-and-miraculous-effect/ << from the 'let's gear up for another bloodbath' files
shinohai: http://www.coinfox.info/news/5817-croatian-crypto-enthusiast-creates-ethereum-based-computer-game <<< It's like Civilization, but with ETHEREUM!!!
shinohai: There are many job opportunities in the US and of A. For men, construction worker, taxi driver or accountant. For woman, prostitute.
mircea_popescu: in other cargo cunt lulz, http://insidemydirtyfilthymind.tumblr.com/post/113320480712/sex-doll-latex-lucy
mircea_popescu: then he wonders what is porcfest about anymore. gee whiz, i dunno.
mircea_popescu: "I found myself with a girl under each arm, a scotch in hand, dead center in the front of a crowd observing the fire dancing show taking place during the big Friday night finale of PorcFest XIII. Having ingested both MDMA and LSD1 earlier that evening, I imagined the scene took on a particularly mystical quality."
deedbot: [Daniel P. Barron] The Last Thing I Needed - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/the-last-thing-i-needed/
hanbot: offered online too, 'cause no doubt it's moar peaceful to do nothing in your pjs than to threaten others with the horrid visage of your presence.
asciilifeform: (how many people can remember off the top of their head, how much ethernet frame weighs)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or at least make it as relevant and interesting as ethernet frame is
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 20:30 mircea_popescu: ie can we finally get rid of the concept of "packet" altogether ?
mircea_popescu: and in news along the same lines, i give you the happy fucktoy! http://67.media.tumblr.com/beba5f40e4fd5dffb4ac36af1a322a74/tumblr_o1e33y8C5w1uc36mco1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: in somewhat other lulz, http://www.blockalerts.com/all/why-ethereum-needs-dumb-contracts/
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only possible conclusion is that ~nobody went to school.
phf: the fact that you run shell scripts on your data basically disqualifies you from participating in management. you're supposed to leverage, that shell script is $500k initial investment ruby on rails project
mircea_popescu: phf ikr! i lack the background and experience in management experience, is the problem.
mircea_popescu: so therefore! yes i will! because yes i can!
mircea_popescu: and "care este" is a typical form of uneducated ro usage, particularly favoured in the mudplains around bucharest. a sort of pop-philosophy turned verbal automatism.
mircea_popescu: so blog de internet, "blog of internet", there's that.
mircea_popescu: but since the answer's not that readily translatable, let's delve. "x de y" is a very common pattern of early childhoold romanian construction, so much so that it's a byword for infantilism.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/alexacom-or-the-measurable-web-delusion/#comment-117862
phf: there you go again, applying maths and stuff. graph! number! how hard is it to get??
deedbot: [Trilema] Alexa.com or the "measurable web" delusion. - http://trilema.com/2016/alexacom-or-the-measurable-web-delusion/
trinque: phf: write something incomprehensible on a napkin and drop it in front of them as you leave
phf: there's two spooks discussing "good old times" couple of tables away from me at some empty diner in maryland
mircea_popescu: you know the various trollboxes are full of redditards with things to say. what's so special about this one.
mircea_popescu: "take a shot of every vodka in the house, pour in glass, stir. add twist of gin. serve."
mircea_popescu: so it pains me to admit that i just invented the world's first vodka cocktail.
asciilifeform: (tcp, that massive barrel of liquishit, was designed before the discovery of luby code - or any of the subsequent 'fountain' algos)
mircea_popescu: mats oh i c! interesting how that came out then.
asciilifeform: 'if it were detachable, the last you passing by would have carried it off'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the bmore thread, it appears to be a continuation of my childhood education, where i saw silver ruble coinz on occasion, but strictly glued to the asphalt with the recently imported cyanoacrylate
mats: Clinton Averitte born 1948, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas 1987 - present
mircea_popescu: what about the california guy hanbot found ?
mats: is the only eligible fella missing from my list
mats: i got around to sanitizing and interpreting the csv in http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/export.html
mircea_popescu: so then it's not your profession.
mircea_popescu: ie, if you manage to cure it, it was curable. otherwise, no. but note that the people who invent cures aren't PROPER doctors.
mircea_popescu: as long as you expect your profession to be what you say, you're necessarily an amateur, looking at magazine depictions of fthe profession in question
mircea_popescu: understanding this first point is what even allows the doctor to be A DOCTOR, ie, professional. as opposed to amateur, ie, quack.
mircea_popescu: the doctor's profession is to cure the curable, not the incurable, and not "the sick".
asciilifeform: recall the cutting-apart thread
asciilifeform: my profession is to mechanize the 'unmechanizable'
mircea_popescu: there can never be mechanism here.
mircea_popescu: then build my pdf ocr trained thing.
mircea_popescu: in practical terms, asciilifeform i'd say you'd be a lot more benefited by somehow retaining the loyalty and services of an old whore that knows how to negotiate rents ; than by trying to become warlord.
mircea_popescu: their fundamental idea that "if i don't swear i'll go to heaven" is entirely built of this stupidium
mircea_popescu: not particularly. there isn't any form that's perpetual. ideas are ; forms change.
mircea_popescu: otherwise you're in the position of a schoolyard lout who seeks to absolve his ungrammatical "poetry" on the grounds that shakespeare.
mircea_popescu: the correct model is the correct model. before you may claim exception you must master the model.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's picture is a thermodynamic equilibrium. where we lived in perhaps 17th c.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'not care' thing is a pretense - the folks who properly, full throttle 'not care' , ate nagant.
thestringpuller: so isn't it a bit odd that Slock.It is refusing to release the security audit of The DAO? It really looks as if this is straight up MtGox 2.0. Pretty sure someone inside slock.it hacked the DAO and got a huge payoff.
asciilifeform: so experimented with upping them millimorts
mircea_popescu: there's exactly 1 way to 0 rent.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-23 03:40 mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live.
mircea_popescu: start at the purpose. what are you trying to do again ?
asciilifeform: well all i got is the wrong tool
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform methinks you're using the wrong tools for an ill defined purpose.
mircea_popescu: altogether a tall bar.
mircea_popescu: well - this is not true generally, thinking about it. but for me, it is way the fuck easier. and i'd expect it'd be the same for everyone who a) is familiar with the environment, and by familiar we mean that, feels at home in the ghetto and is respected in prison ; b) is familiar with the categories of education. which is different from being educated, it requires mastership of the gnosis, that position where you wrote the bo
asciilifeform: at any rate i'm still convinced that the electric fence must have a hole in it somewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the rats themselves, no. but actual people, you'll find there rather than in office parking lot, or at nsa building, or working the cubical.
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] From the scammer files: Anthony Di Iorio. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/29/from-the-scammer-files-anthony-di-iorio/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform empty and full of rubble does wonders to keep hopes down (and hope, expectation of future, TRULY is the mind eater for usians. be hopeless, you win.) and officious intermeddlers at a distance sufficient to breed actual people with some frequency.
thestringpuller: "A wise man once said that nothing really dies. It just comes back in a new form. Then he died. So, next time you see a lowly salamander, think twice before you step on it; it might be you."
mircea_popescu: what, most hashes don't produce anything either.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu might have a somewhat distorted picture of bmore. most of these boxes aren't mega-profitable dens of vice, but empty and full of rubble.
mircea_popescu: so basically... thank the bank. saved your life, and saved the city a grease spot removal bill.
mircea_popescu: and if you end up buying for the wrong reasons on the wrong expectations you'll have to be killed.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if you run one of these you run it because you want a steady supply of whores and thugs, not because you expect roi on the rents.
asciilifeform: so as i suspected, the front door is a sham
mircea_popescu: if the question "who is this guy" forms, and the answer is not on a post-it on monitor, you're not in the demo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because you called them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think of it as the equivalent of mining for street power blockchain
shinohai: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/29/misty-snow-and-misty-plowright-two-transgender-can/ <<< If they win, which restroom will they use?
mircea_popescu: ah, the demo ? usually, russian immigrants, old white guys with a history of dealing with criminals for whatever reason (pond shop owner, public defender, etc)
mircea_popescu: they what ?
asciilifeform: but i see the general point.
mircea_popescu: people who do shipping know where proper loading docks are. you don't give them one of those, you don't trade.
asciilifeform: so i get them in my corp addr.
mircea_popescu: not so : they'll ask where you want it delivered, you'll give a residential address, they'll drop the inquiry.
asciilifeform: but yes some items are prolly only available by the megatonne.
mircea_popescu: and you can't buy bauxite, either.
mircea_popescu: if the log scatters of discussions of my buys hasn't illuminated the matter yet lol.
mircea_popescu: so then what's all this to do with what we were discussing.
mircea_popescu: title ? none of these people ever had or wish to ever have title to anything.
asciilifeform: a couple days ago i did experiment, 'what is the cheapest box one can buy title to in bmore, where the roof is intact and inside is not full of vermin and rubble'
asciilifeform: the 'baltimore workshops' thread
mircea_popescu: i think the convo might have spliced. what do you mean ?
asciilifeform: or is this a 'seekrit evidence', 'your prices are not the real prices!1111' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same place you get the young whores. hipster part of town.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:17 phf: you get a balmore workshop not because it's a conan thing to do, but because you're insane and need to paint astral vaginas whether or not there's market for it, and you can afford to pay $90/mo (sometimes late) for your apartment and $100/mo (mostly late) for your studio
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 05:29 mircea_popescu: the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated. ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t
mircea_popescu: so drone wants to be ant rather than bee. whoopee. still drone.
mircea_popescu: still the same substance. i entertain no distinction.
asciilifeform: aha them
mircea_popescu: eh, the ones that start in engineering / actual work roles usually end up "managing" a project/team, not really selected for chen minjness.
asciilifeform: tunnel vision to the max
asciilifeform: at least in asciilifeform's experience, these folks are entirely disjoint with the 'sexism politruk' etc. business
mircea_popescu: aha. usually they start as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491735 and advance from there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i worked with these folks for many years.
mircea_popescu: they're usually central/east asians for a good reason : the "government is all things" mentality is not commonly found outside of that shithole. there, it's part of the culture.
mircea_popescu: it's an underclass of capons the empire is promoting, the equivalent of the roman libertus.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-15 00:40 mircea_popescu: http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/faculty/finance/faculty/chowdhry << in case you're wondering what the vermin usg has created looks like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the minj chick is the equivalent of the akshay aggarwal doofus. recall the fabulous case of the famous mr chowdhry http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-15#1324477 ? or the fascinating case of mr bharara http://qntra.net/2015/04/judge-preet-bhararas-brinkmanship-endangers-fair-trials/ ? or the betrayer shkreli ?
mircea_popescu: and to not forget the various other usg tools with a more remote, disavowed involvement : gavin andresen, emin gun sirer, and a whole list of various derps who unilaterally claim involvement : amir chetrit, anthony di iorio, gavin woon, joseph lubin etc,
asciilifeform: right in the bio?
asciilifeform: 'Stefano Bertolo is a civil servant advising the Foundation in a strictly personal capacity with the formal permission of his employer. ' << holy shit, srs?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j
asciilifeform: strangely enough, afaik the only folks who can afford the Real Deal are - usg. but in this case they skimped ? go figure.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 22:19 mircea_popescu: and to round the lolz farm, " The code was open-sourced on March 3rd, so experts had almost two months to find vulnerabilities before it was deployed. It was also audited (at an alleged cost of $250k) by the same firm that audited geth before the frontier launch." (you remember, by the "dejavu" derps, that proud scion of bitcoin security of bitcoinica days. https://archive.is/yZ0ke )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492472 << to truly round up yesterday's derp list, one has to mention the dejavu "security" team (aptly named, seriously, we've seen this nonsense more than enough times before from the sort of posturing idiots without a wot presence) : akshay aggarwal, "a passionate entrepreneur", adam cecchetti, "ceo", michael eddington, "cto", see https://archive.is/JqJos
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 12:09 thestringpuller: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin.
shinohai: https://github.com/ethcore/parity/pull/1483/files The dao is still down -12.19 %. Here's a provisional hard fork to make it all better.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 09:20 ben_vulpes: i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?!
thestringpuller: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?!
ben_vulpes: while picking delicately through the trash in the 2br housing lord only knows how many ops monkeys it came up that the machine was in no way deprovisioned.
ben_vulpes went to procure a server today (8 cores! 3.33 ghz! 32 gb of ram! probably the heaviest individual slice of computronium i've ever hefted) to find that it was previously operated by a local company of some amount of repute.
adlai: misplacing a key and misremembering a password are the same class of fuckup
adlai: the truly stupid suddenly remember last week to forget their presale password. true story (not mine)
mircea_popescu: the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that.
adlai: but i agree with you in the sense of "coin moves from stupid pocket to smart"
adlai: sure. but this "usg" is still a bunch of smart muppets scamming the stupid muppets, money is changing hands
adlai: and ethereum is a billion dollar testnet
mircea_popescu: adlai forced mistakes ; long string thereof.
adlai: honestly, why even bother with a fork at this point. just reset the testnet, call it "The Next Frontier"
mircea_popescu: ethereum community reads more and more like paycoin community.
mircea_popescu: "One cannot imagine Ethereum community doing nothing in response to an existential hack. Doing nothing would say we lack courage and we let thieves walk away with their loot. HF is a must now. The community is reaching a new consensus."
adlai: exactly this. the neuroleptic goat has its place alongside the tolerance break and other shirts of assorted hairyness
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 04:47 adlai: it's worth taking antipsychotics for the amazing clarity you get once you stop taking them
a111: Logged on 2015-05-15 04:41 mircea_popescu: there is that rabi and goats story, but no.
trinque: yeah, pivoting towards death, not out of the way of it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: well, that's problematic, in no small part because of the traditional villain "ha-ha! it was my plan all along!"
mircea_popescu: when people get excited the "monetary mass" (which is not directly equivalent to the pedestrian notion of money) expands. when people flee to safety, it contracts.
mircea_popescu: suddenly you can appreciate the macrofinance problems.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the right, each coin piece changes hands once a week. for trade! thismeans the circulation is about 5bn pcs/year
mircea_popescu: now, the average coin piece in the left changes hands once a year. for safety. this means the circulation (ie, notional market, in the primitive sense this works then) is ~100mn pcs/year.
mircea_popescu: the half to the left gets attacked by the huns ; the half to the right has some derp discover the indies and goes into trade mode, florence style.
mircea_popescu: this was true even in the old days of gold coins. consider the case of two neighbouring countries, each with the same exact mirror arrangements, same pop count, same 100 tons of gold total, circulating as 100mn 1gram pieces.
adlai: if you're new at this - the whole point is to do the trial and error in your head. if the computer move surprises you, you have to hit reset and stare at the setup for another fifteen seconds