mircea_popescu: ALL THEY HAVE is fucking reds.
ben_vulpes: no although i did have to lay about with the cane one time when someone brought me a bottle of refrigerated red.
ben_vulpes: "dude, it's not a cooler. the wine was already cold. it's an /insulator/."
ben_vulpes: this a bottle that'd been sitting in the fridge all week.
ben_vulpes: he arrived on the deck with the bottle /in/ the insulator, surrounded by ice and /in water/
mircea_popescu: crazy american, has more cleannign girls than mating girls on the premises. as a result... wine suffers.
ben_vulpes: heh and further lolz of the wine insulator, i once asked one of the staff to bring a bottle up in it
ben_vulpes: semi-relatedly, i found the wine insulator.
mircea_popescu: this strengthens my point.
ben_vulpes: but the male-gendered bowel movements don't have a scrap of dole to redistribute.
ben_vulpes: now, the business major /chicas/ not so at all.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: thank you for the killfile.
ben_vulpes: phf: thank you for the insight.
mircea_popescu: "there's no further need for a usg computing arm. here's the entire archive of everything. we're moving on."
mircea_popescu: what happened to tearing the entire us com apart in 1992 ?
mircea_popescu: "we just want the world to be a better place somehow vaguely and ''technologically'' which is just doublespoken easily, and to be nice to each other".
mircea_popescu: excited like little children at paper fortunes, puffing and huffing on their stick horses without an inkling of understanding of how horses work, let alone to what fucking purpose they'd like to run them. and without the clue to even begin not knowing the difference, but noticing something's amiss.
mircea_popescu: honestly, the age never existed. i've seen such ages, up close and personal. but the composition of this particular version was exceedingly weak. not even teracotta soldiers, more like pillsbury doughmen.
phf: i think half the conversations here are about coming in terms with how royally "the age" was lost
phf: intertia? :> sort of eton boys for queen and country long after the empire died
phf: thing is gmane is not really for reading, it's a permanent archive of a handful useful technical emails, sort of what google was supposed to be for usenet, before they pulled the plug
phf: i don't know the details of ken sievers, some lesser part of systemd's master wrecking plan, involving firmware devices. probably behavior is somehow mandatory in NSA injection sequence. or else guy is just another righteous prick
mircea_popescu: and, much like the retard with the "live password", no fucking idea what he's doing wrong.
phf: oh, and he's giving up domain to anyone willing to "set up a new web based service" "all previous permalink.gmane.org (etc.) links continue to work as before, but they’ll look new and spiffy in your new and spiffy web interface" bunch of anons in the comments going "yeah, i'm kind of sort of interested plx send money to this btc address^W^W^W^W^Wdomain"
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] “At least the US government is not overtly confiscating the assets of the general population at this very moment.” - http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/03/at-least-the-us-government-is-not-overtly-confiscating-the-assets-of-the-general-population-at-this-very-moment/
mircea_popescu: "I need your assistance if you can. I accidentally sent a message to the [redacted] email list last night with a live password in it. The password is hardcoded in to dozens of machines, so changing it would be
inconvenient, to say the least. I dont yet see the message on your archive page, so I cant provide the URL link, but I wanted to see if you could remove the message before it is processed and posted."
mircea_popescu: phf im mostly ignorant of the stuff (heck, i think i read gmane... once. in like 1996. it didn't deliver.) but what exact idiocy is kay sievers invested in not reverting at whatever cost, including his anal virginity ?
BingoBoingo: Pair with https://www.reddit.com/r/lossprevention/comments/4vvio4/when_by_yourself_at_what_point_is_it_best_to_move/ for still further Buttfunex
mircea_popescu: the lost generation keeps on delivering.
BingoBoingo: THe most Reddit thread on anything ever https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoplifting/comments/4vwgii/is_it_just_me_or_the_majority_of_the_posters/
phf: ben_vulpes: i was going to link relevant mail message, but udev has been merged into systemd a while ago. gentoo has a fork, called eudev. udev also prompted one of the linus' famous rants, https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
mircea_popescu: o sorry, guy almost threw up. alrighty then.
phf: not really drama as such, oldfag bailed, took his project down with him, project being gmane an old repository of mailing lists (and an ntp<->mailing list proxy) https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
BingoBoingo: At a time it had users, could do recon by scoping out a persons facebook page. Now... none of the kids have them anymore.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if any of the derpy investors ever did any sort of dd whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: actually. less than 10% of people alive EVER HAD a fb. less than 10% of THOSE touched it in the past year.
mircea_popescu: actually i'm doing a large-ish project whereby various bullshit "countries" leak their civil records (ie, names, ssi, taxids, address etc) of their whole population ; which then gets searched in fb db.
BingoBoingo: Just remember to save the gay whales in Darfur-finex
mircea_popescu: eh, i wouldn't be too worried. by now most of "the crowd" is made out of washed outs who thought at some point they were somebody.
ben_vulpes: either that or a totally staid gay lawyer
ben_vulpes: i'll probably be cursed with the opposite.
phf: "because i turn up and it’s not fucking not anonymous anymore. i’m not just some guy in the crowd ever again." цыпа такая цыпа. зашкварился, теперь под петухами всю жизнь ходить
ben_vulpes: http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2016/08/fixing-america-make-a-political-party-out-of-software.html << john robb with the lolz
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does that mean, he failed to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513857 ? that doesn't make him a "good person", that makes him a fucking shitstain.
asciilifeform: ^ the champion ^
asciilifeform: in other noose,
shinohai: https://steemit.com/bitfinex/@btcto100k/bitfinex-ceo-on-the-run "He is a very good person and had nothing to do with the hack"
ben_vulpes: for bonus points, capture some amount of the heat generated from the exothermic co2 sequestration process
mod6: mircea_popescu: works good! followed the guide pretty much exactly. just the version numbers need to be updated in the wiki, and the link to the binary.
ben_vulpes: i'm thinking dig olivine out of the earth, blow co2 over it, and sell carbon credits.
mircea_popescu: pretty much every other day is
Nordic: How do i answer that, lol. Norwegian dude, interested in the cryptoscene.
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mod6: will do, just about got all the deps dl'd.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diff the raw and standard views of linked piece.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the mangling show up in ?raw=true?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fromphuctor: I see. so for this to work, two factors should be close to each other. So nothing todo with 2x-1?
asciilifeform: an rng firing blanks and leading rsa key gen to spit out the square of a prime immediately following a power of two, is simply one way to arrive at such.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing that advanced/serious even. they leak it.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, takes a non-idiot half an hour to fish them out.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/common-scenarios/ "Although you can't get a list of all the fans of a Facebook Page, you can find out whether a specific person has liked a Page."
asciilifeform: dun exist in the corner store.
mircea_popescu: symptomatic for the "we are the premiere science and tech world in the world", it dun exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why i say depends on the set-up. maybe something plouffe-esque could be had to fit it in tight ram
asciilifeform: and obliterate the parallelism
mircea_popescu: obviously a lot of the cpu is not really used to do bignum mults. a smaller lot of the gpu isn't.
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: doubtful. afaik there is no bignum routine optimized for gpu
fromphuctor: thank you for all the info
mircea_popescu: not exactly ; the faq has some good links re this.
asciilifeform: if you're speaking of the latest experiment, we used fermat's method
fromphuctor: but to do the same thing youself, you need to bruteforce 2^x -1 == your N?
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: however, the factorings are reproducible - you can dump modili with 'pgpdump', and any bignum calculator - e.g., 'bc', or ordinary python repl, can multiply the factors.
asciilifeform: of course, there is no degree of idiocy that could be wholly ruled out where usg is involved..
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: asciilifeform: maybe they want to find where messages originate without having to have the privkeys at the points of surveillance? but yeah, not clear
asciilifeform: why have the loud diarrheal fart ?
asciilifeform: trinque: if fella is a stooge, no reason for him not to have ~normal~ pgp key with puppet master having copy of the private.
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my best hypothesis is a) khadeer generated key with, e.g., 'jihadcrypt' b) winblowz gpg with the memcpy from rng nopped out by ???
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, "owned by whitening" is not altogether a bad theory wrt the null-entropy keys. ie, "they replaced rng with null-outputting one, never noticed because whitening". this, of course, doesn't explain why gpg would end up with null-generated keys, but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: what do you do other than lurking ? ie, "for teh ecosystem"
_FeltPen: who said anything about it being useful? i just said they made something.
asciilifeform inescapably recalls the 'chess oil' from sierra online's 'gabriel knight'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pass the luck oil
shinohai: Oh hai, I suppose you are merely another 21co fanboy that gets butthurt every time I point put how your $400 doorstop has no case, ad naseum
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4vu9qm/pgp_key_of_mahmood_khadeer_president_of_the/d62ld86 << moar lelz
_FeltPen: shinohai - what's up the tweet?
gribble: (register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
asciilifeform: perhaps a hole in the unbroken wall of stupid
deedbot: shinohai rated _FeltPen -1 << My argument is you are just another redditard that sucks VC cock.
shinohai: $rate _FeltPen -1 My argument is you are just another redditard that sucks VC cock.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 03:05 fabio__: There has been quite a bit of noise about ECC NIST curves (nistp256, nistp384, nistp521) being tampered with by the NSA. I thought using ECC was all good if you don't use the NIST curves and instead use community approved curves like Curve25519 and Curve1174 by like DJB and friends, or other approved ones at https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell fabio__ http://trilema.com/2016/you-are-not-a-person-and-you-dont-get-a-vote/ << there yo go, re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513523 : community approved.
asciilifeform: 'The way the MatrixSSL team "fixed" the miscalculation issue is not really satisfying: They now restrict the input to the pstm_exptmod() function to a set of bit sizes (512, 1024, 1536, 2048, 3072, 4096). My test input had a different bit size, therefore I cannot reproduce the miscalculation any more, but the underlying bug is most likely still there. ... Despite the fact that the bug may be still there the CRT attack will probably
asciilifeform: ' A common way to speed up the calculation of RSA signatures is an algorithm based on the chinese remainder theorem (CRT) that splits it up into two smaller calculations. However if one of these calculations goes wrong an attacker can learn the private key. Last year Florian Weimer observed that various devices had this error and he could extract their keys. He recently mentioned...'
asciilifeform: ' I just discovered a somewhat similar issue in Nettle. They switched their RSA implementation from GMP's mpz_powm() function to mpz_powm_sec(), which is supposed to be sidechannel resistant. However mpz_powm_sec() is no drop-in replacement. Unlike mpz_pown() it doesn't accept even moduli and crashes with a floating point error. Therefore when trying to use a specifically crafted RSA key with an even modulus this will crash. '
asciilifeform: 'If one tries to calculate a modular exponentiation with the base equal to the modulus (a^b mod a, code) it would return an error. If one tries to calculate a modular exponentiation with the base zero (0^b mod a, code) it would crash with an invalid free operation, potentially leading to memory corruption.'
asciilifeform: spoiler: that 1000 can move into 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE any time the 51% feels like it.
asciilifeform: holy mother of fuck, nlocktime ?
mircea_popescu: check out the deluge of comments. suddenly "the community" is showing itself to be eXACTLy http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other news, trilema has served 5.5 mn pages... this month.
asciilifeform: (the muslim assoc, that is, not shitfinex)
asciilifeform: i wrote to them
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the romans : the whole "dickus maximus" bit in monty python is actually very strict scholarship. to the "rugged men of the fronteer", the speech of proper roman citizen sounded so fucking faggoty you can't imagine.
mircea_popescu: joke of the fucking year.
mircea_popescu: "retroactively changes the meaning of text". what fucking text ? strings including "emoji" ipso facto carry no meaning.
mircea_popescu: i can't comprehend why anyone'd summon the interest to care. the only correct solution is to insist strict latin set exists throughout, and otherwise they can all get fucked.
phf: they have an encoding in circulation, that actually encodes text in terms of font glyph offsets, which was also the way emacs did it initially. the solution was written by japanese, was called MULE, and that was one of the first major flame wars naggum participated in. famously forked his own version, etc.
mircea_popescu: azn illiteracy is no excuse for doing things wrongly, which is why colonialism and the rape of nanking are more sensible policies than whatever the fuck's going on presently.
mircea_popescu: the ~only~ way to get useful symbolics, which does mean STRICTLY standardized symbols, is to have very few of them.
phf: the whole font changes meaning take two is coming from the japanese. they were actively promoting this idea back during early unicode standardization days, where there was a strong drive to include every idiosyncratic version of kanji in the standard, because "that's how my family writes it in our last name".
mircea_popescu: PeterL no, and leaving the greeks aside : one day some people decided to make an I that looked more like a J. sexier font, stylish, whatnot.
mircea_popescu: and hence numerous examples i'm too much of a business insider to bother fucking listing. who the fuck let these idiots write in the first place, they're an insult to the cattle that had to die for the vellum.
mircea_popescu: PeterL no. the "letters" you currently use are the result of FONT FLUCTUATION in the roman empire.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this inevitably brings to mind the characters in BingoBoingo's links, who curse doctor for going to the root cause of bedridden maggot farm << See there was a purpose!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'In March a Frenchman was actually jailed for sending his ex-girlfriend the pistol emoji, in what was interpreted as a threat. What if a joke sent from an Apple user to a Google user is misconstrued because of differences in rendering?' << lel
asciilifeform: mao's 'cultural revolution' - in fact, had a brief episode of nearly this, with the 'backyard steel' thing
asciilifeform: to move yet again up the stack: mining machinery is improved by engineers, who - if not went to a school, at least are literate - rather than by gawkers who 'drinkin' beers, beers, beeers' in front of the mine, suggest 'hey bubba let's weld on a SHIT HANGING OFF THE SIDEZ'
asciilifeform: well yes, there is sometimes a side drill
asciilifeform: minus the articulation, lel
asciilifeform: at the very least, could pump away the soluble earth, and leave the rocks to be broken up, into same
mircea_popescu: all this shit is made of solid steel mostly because earthmoving is barely a step away from direct abrasion. it's like making tools to push the grinder.
asciilifeform: it isn't that the machine has never, or could never again, be improved, but that it can stand and work without gathering crowd of 'train pushing face' who want to weld forks, knives, onto it, to 'improve', and be paid for the privilege
mircea_popescu: in fact, the heavy machinery industry is today very much a "designer item" sort of thing, pretty much any large mine will order machinery to spec for its own particular use.
asciilifeform: there are fields with crystallized sanity, or at the very least sufficiently well-known hard priors, to make the sort of festering gangrene we live with here, quite unthinkable.
asciilifeform: for so long as maggoting on software is even ~thinkable~, the upper echelon of 'aspirational' maggots will bang on the door, and some - will get in.
asciilifeform: it is a necessary thing, but not a solution to the infestation in question
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, the solution seems to be quite simply vitriol. dissolve the "acceptance" blanket of idiocy.
mircea_popescu: this is universally the fucking problem. and it's passively supported by idiots' tendency to build life support systems for themselves, hence the all-pervasive socialism.
mircea_popescu: idiots must be told they're dumb. often. loudly. in no uncertain terms.
asciilifeform: well yes. consider the predicament of a maggot trying to feed on living flesh
mircea_popescu: if i start screaming at the idiots they WILL execute their job, and well. but absent my scream, they have no fucking idea they're doing a bad job, even. nobody ever told them so.
mircea_popescu: the reason argentines drive horribly, as well as are incredibly inept economically, and the reason for pretty much all visible misbehaviour is exactly the same : lack of negative reinforcement.
mircea_popescu: the point being that i have wisened to understand the problem. it is a lack of negative reinforcement.
asciilifeform: the most that can be accomplished is... what a mortician does
asciilifeform: no amount of individual tweezer work will undecay the flesh.
asciilifeform: for them to ever appear.
asciilifeform: to briefly go up the stack: 'gender comment commits' aren't cricket-level, they are maggot-level
mircea_popescu: alternatively there's some pheromone interaction or something. dunno.
mircea_popescu: borrowed a cat, to live there temporarily.
mircea_popescu: i also didn't mind them - but it did drive one girl positively crazy. couldn't sleep, eventually had a mild psychotic episode. so i got rid of them.
asciilifeform: ah, see, these are a-ok
mircea_popescu: they patrolled all the outside walls constantly. being no damage they could do to rebared concrete... i really didn't see the harm.
asciilifeform: i wrote 'don't blame the mice' in it.
mircea_popescu: the only practical starting point for hygiene in the mind of the golum is through forcing pain until a desired result. that it's unachievable through means available to the golum does not matter one iota.
asciilifeform: not attracting, not supplying array of crevices where they can hide from any form of killing
mircea_popescu: that's the thing. especially to the inferior man, "hygiene" does not exist, as an abstract. it may only exist as "mechanized individual squishing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but hygiene starts as well as exists as a "better squishing". people given the "hey, it'd be elegant to wash" will wash and retain the bugs. people given the "hey, you will be in this dungeon until you squished all the bugs" given "hey, use this, works faster" WILL fucking wash.
asciilifeform: well, there is 'Если немца убил твой брат, Если немца убил сосед, — Это брат и сосед твой мстят, А тебе оправданья нет. За чужой спиной не сидят, Из чужой винтовки не мстят.' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: you're a bad person, there's no two wais about it, kiddy fuckers may be great or horrible. you're horrible, no great.
mircea_popescu: then you are, personally, a bad person.
asciilifeform: there were no 'gender comment commits', not only in, e.g., system v unix, but in symbolics 'genera' (smbx corp employed, interestingly, a multitude of chix, some of whom appear in my bookcase even now)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - there must be collective guilt at work here, as a concept, for the opposition. if you are "a computer programmer", and you aren't part of the solution, you ARE part of the problem, ands personally responsible for it.
asciilifeform: and not, as they usually contend, simply M units of unlucky, for M == number of maggots
asciilifeform: fact: folks who share their bed with maggots are different, in fundamental and interesting ways, from those who do not
mircea_popescu: well there is that.
asciilifeform: not only is it a mistake to ask the maggots, but likewise it is mistake to ask the maggot-farmer
asciilifeform: this inevitably brings to mind the characters in BingoBoingo's links, who curse doctor for going to the root cause of bedridden maggot farm
mircea_popescu: no. a sane examinator always begins by twisting the necks he can, not the necks he "should".
asciilifeform: a sane exterminator would begin by asking why the bed has 100kg of maggots in it to begin with
mircea_popescu: their resultant effort pushed you out of bed.
mircea_popescu: even if any single maggot only exerted 1/800 N and as part of squirming in a different direction altogether,
mircea_popescu: i get that it's a diffuse, socialist, retarded sort of forcing where nobody actually does anything that could possibly be upon them. but that dun matter so much, if you end up pushed out of bed by a colony of maggots, THE MAGGOTS DID IT.
mircea_popescu: they go exactly fucking opposite. this is forcing.
mircea_popescu: instead of everyone laughing her into bulimia, and weekly egging and tping the house in which basement she dwells,
mircea_popescu: yes, everybody did. that's the problem. when derp mcherperson wants commit access to vomit her versiuon of invidious gossip therein as "comments" and "sensitivity", PEOPLE FORCE IT
asciilifeform: just as, per yesterday's thread, nobody forced the bathroom mold.
mircea_popescu: she's well equipped for the things she does, invidious gossip, raising children and burning the cabbage. there's really no call for cabbage os and burned "literature".
mircea_popescu: nobody asked you to force the poor thing to art ; much like nobody asked you to force the minimal brain of the huswife into producing political discourse and directing ships on the sea.
mircea_popescu: see, but that's not it. same FUNCTION of organ. that's the issue. the anal ring is made to keep farts in, and ~arguably~ to pleasure a beloved penis now and again. this is very much the same function.
asciilifeform: all of the proggies have roughly this very same shape.
asciilifeform: the situation of open sores is really not at all different.
mircea_popescu: one time one person inquired at party "but what's with all the monster cocks"
mircea_popescu: well no, feminist you see. had no use for those e=mc2 shapes that predilect the edge of light over roundnesses much more important ... to "us".
mircea_popescu: as per aristotle, there is no such thing as "no design"
asciilifeform: just 'tip the dump truck here and here'
asciilifeform: and likewise their designs are also dead (or alive in museums and collections like mine)
mircea_popescu: "o ya ? then put echo "come suck my dick"; in bash!"
mircea_popescu: "hey, it says on the screen"
mircea_popescu: the verbiage still reflects this
asciilifeform: recall how the original pgp collected keystroke fuzz etc.?
mircea_popescu: but better rng code could well live in the os.
asciilifeform: it is a kind of forced/nudged idiotarianism, via os architecture, useland does not have the direct access to the hardware (incl. the scheduler) to force a proper sampling of whatever hardware rng
mircea_popescu: i prefer to discern between the two by their reaction to events. the fact that they're not all here means they're all there.
mircea_popescu: maybe (there is a valid argument here, that at the time they were making this shit it was for toys not btc nodes). or maybe they're just usefully idiotarian.
asciilifeform: if there is anything one cannot accuse insects of, it is lack of economy.
asciilifeform: hey they're genius exam takers, whaddayaexpect, 'we want to pass ent' 'how to pass' 'whiten' 'done'
mircea_popescu: (incidentally those "accidental"-deliberate fucktards : fixed whitening scheme ? really ? what the FUCK! if there's anything in the entire fucking os the user must be able to customize, it's NOT the fucking glyph table / window size for the love of christmas fucks!)
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't actually speak to the foregoing. i suppose the correct rsa implementation comes with a kernel patch.
asciilifeform: testing whitened bits which may or may not even have actual physical entropy behind them is ~useless.
mircea_popescu: the concept of test is, definitionally, "on user end".
asciilifeform: because on the userland end, ~100% of shit os will pass.
mircea_popescu: all tests must always and forever be in the hand of hte user.
asciilifeform: my contention is that this test belongs on the system end.
mircea_popescu: well, it's a statistical matter, so modellable like any other.
mircea_popescu: passing it better than the real thing is failing, innit.
asciilifeform: (e.g., aes of a stream of nulls, outscores (debiased) geiger, electric rng, whatever you like, on ~100% of the tests)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whitened crapolade passes all known entropic tests, in fact considerably better than the 'real thing'.
mircea_popescu: (also by definition whitening doesn't trivially pass the tests, just superficially seems to.)
mircea_popescu: otherwise you're in the position of the camper who doesn't pack a burner because, technically speaking, he doesn't know there will be oxygen where he goes, not having been there before.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but this is not a reason to not have the tool.
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAFB01DF89745CDC55D1D8A0B5BC68F625251EC35B15486E5297A54492BB56D9 << in other lulz.
asciilifeform: otherwise you get slipped the wonderfully entropic digits of some transcendental constant and that'll be it.
asciilifeform: to compactly rephrase, entropy testing is only useful when you ~know the design of the rng~
asciilifeform: (recall, e.g., digits of pi, pass the ent tests.)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 06:15 mircea_popescu: and speaking of gpg deplorable state asciilifeform can you think of any possible reason the damned thing doesn't come a) bundled with ent and b) with ready implemented tests of local entropy while c) key generation is a subset of entropy testing in all cases ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513709 << the obvious reason: at this point, even the lamest system rng (urandom, etc) are 'whitened' and trivially pass the tests, while having anywhere from 0 to whatever actual hardware entropic content
mircea_popescu: and speaking of gpg deplorable state asciilifeform can you think of any possible reason the damned thing doesn't come a) bundled with ent and b) with ready implemented tests of local entropy while c) key generation is a subset of entropy testing in all cases ?
BingoBoingo: "The results mean that, on Nov. 8, the state's gubernatorial race will be between Koster, a former Republican turned Democrat, and Greitens, a former Democrat turned Republican."
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> more practical would be to force the code to make a pile of say 64 byte keys and sieve them. << this would be interesting.
a111: Logged on 2015-05-20 15:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139680 << speaking of this, am I the only one nonplussed by all this "we use <<best practices>> fixed exponent" bs ? it's an unavoidalbe magic number , okay, but it's tyhe sort that should eminently be a knob for the user. a proper gpg would have e user-settable at the key generation phase (with 65536+1 as a default, sure)
mircea_popescu: yes, that's right : landed at chatham, burned the ships, FAILED TO BURN THE FUCKING DOCKYARDS.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 02:58 mircea_popescu: incidentally, the curious amateur historian may be well served by a review of the 2nd anglo-dutch war. some underlined parts : the anglos were deeply overextended politically - their crummy country consisting of one single town and a bunch of retarded peasants ; while the republic had many more merchants, with lots more money. in practice this meant that the english could pay for one ship where the dutch could afford seven ;
mircea_popescu: oh and to revisit http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513511 : guess what mistake the dutch made, that the japanese repeated in ww2.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> could've sworn this was in the logz << i recall a few discussions, ya.