mircea_popescu: what's the mouse to do with this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only thing this "tiling" bullshit does, in your case as exemplified, and in general as a matter of necessity, is that it allows you to hide your poor cognitive performance in minutious labour. IF you are encountering certain classes of problems (wood splinters in glans penis), it is because you are doing certain things wrong and should revise your process. a signal proper pagination does give you, and tiling
phf: mircea_popescu: i work a lot better with your method, but i also sometimes like to manually drag windows around in a particular arrangement as a sort of distracted busy work. the only usecase i found for tiling wm is "full screen everything"
mircea_popescu: anyway ; anyone is free to jack off with whatever technique he prefers. let it be clearly stated though that a) underhand is perfectly valid and b) that the first time you were unsupervised as a 9yo you did it with sharpened pencils does not mean sharpened pencisl are required to jack off.
asciilifeform: why the fuck would i want it in a single file
mircea_popescu: "it would be so terribly hard and difficult to pipe all the shit into a single file and tail that omaygerd."
mircea_popescu: i am seriously sitting here flipping between log and xchat, and i wouldn't care to do it another way.
asciilifeform: phf: dafuq i want with 'find a square somewhere'. i want this scrolling log RIGHT HERE, on display #3, under the other log for other boxes, and this one gets 2cm because it is not esp. important.
mircea_popescu: phf what the fuck is wrong with just flipping pages / adding more panels if flipping is THAT big a deal
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:14 phf: the guy who invented tiling window managers (tuomo valkonen, he wrote Ion, that nobody probably remembers at this point), quit linux in 2005 or so over exactly these things. his pet peve was all the retardation that was going into x11 as part of linux on desktop movement. of course back then people laughed at him, etc.
mircea_popescu: ie, you're constructing this experiment to miss out on the stuff that didn't exist in 1990.
phf: bordeaux-threads now mandates asdf >3.1, why? there's literally no reason
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, mp-wp did not exist in 1990s ; nor did lamp.
asciilifeform: when i dig for the essential core of some proggy with version history going back to '90s, typically i walk away with distinct feeling that reading the post-2003 or so tarballs was entire waste of time.
mircea_popescu: "the gap widened! from 1 to 3!"
mircea_popescu: and if pushed, alf-proposition-3 : "all numbers of the same number of digits are ~equal"
mircea_popescu: so the toilet broadened. big whoop.
asciilifeform: where was systemd in the '90s ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:04 phf: you just forgot how it was in '98. you now have wider range of available shit, so it's the snr that has changed. there was definitely a peak free software where available range also had max hacker value, i.e. intangible quality of buildable, inspectable, etc. but before that free software was kind of shit with a lot of dyi required.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525373 << im with him. it's not altogether clear that the shit of today is any worse than the utter shit of 1990s. contrary to what the fans believe, stupid shit never worked worth a damn.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 16:56 phf: well, i'm more interested in mechanics of it all, since i don't believe in lizard hitler. do thugs of both camps meet at the canteen and measure each other up? are they going to embrace mutual scam wholeheartedly? are they going to try and undermine each other in subtle ways?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525359 << if experience is any guide, they're going to fuck and regret it, then start complicated psychodramas of no interest and then fizzle away into liverjournal.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 16:38 asciilifeform: a: 'We are rejecting this PR as it introduces "Unacceptable Changes", see our breaking change contract. If you disagree with this resolution, you will need to start an RFC. Note that our RFC process currently states only team members may create a new RFC. Our intent is to open this up to the community at large, we'll be updating that repo very soon to clarify.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the muppet also dun enter into it.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 15:50 asciilifeform: sorta like those centurions who threw out the armour, 'too heavy'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525339 << the problem being deeper : contrary to pretense, the us military is just not that important. much like the knight became relatively irrelevant, much like the "nuclear threat" consisted muchly of circus, etc.
PeterL: the US does not declare war anymore, they just start blowing stuff up. (last US declaration of war was WWII)
mircea_popescu: they want merkel to be a military target, best declare war to germany first.
mircea_popescu: the real situation doesn't enter into this, the fictitious situation as presented by usg is the basis.
mircea_popescu: as far as the usg is concerned, germany is at peace, and moreover, an ally.
PeterL: are they at peace?
mircea_popescu: (and what would be the definition of "rogue state" other than that ? "people we don't like" ?)
asciilifeform: and them.
mats: the surveilling bits of bnd and merkel?
mats: anyways, i await next chapter of snowden-ru cooperation, where they leak evidence of usg direct action against civilian nato target
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/pEp9d1bUTec?t=9m45s << in other noose, orlol seems to agree with mircea_popescu re american police.
mats: maybe your problem is the amounts are too small
mats: you don't need to be there.
thestringpuller: war on cash man. you have more than 1 grand, the police take it. no questions.
mats: set the meet at a police station like most folks on craigslist with $expensive-item
thestringpuller: I'm like highly convinced someone is gonna roll up on us one day and just take the cash.
mats: minimizing liabilities shoulda been one of the first things you learned here!
asciilifeform: i am not the first to observe this.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: folks who are jailed seem almos universally ~surprised~ re for what, how, and why.
asciilifeform: where the rsa-diddling is, etc.
asciilifeform: presumably it lives in the 'interesting stuff' room, where snowden never went.
asciilifeform: does not prove the non-existence, sure.
mats: asciilifeform: if i'm remembering these acronyms correctly, that last thing doesn't ave anything to do with windows
asciilifeform: for 'newly discovered synthesis'
thestringpuller: but the probation was costful
asciilifeform: prosecutor could have indicted him under the 'analogues act'
thestringpuller: he wrote up a white paper on how one would create meth and compared it to the evidence they collected
thestringpuller: he was the expert
thestringpuller: so they gave him....PROBATION
thestringpuller: well old mentor of mine found sleep to be his number one enemy. so he decided to just be on stimulants 24/7 and sleep minimally while staying up late programming assembly code or some non-sense. d00d is as insane as he is smart. okay anyhow he bought this condo, and at the time he was a Ph.D candidate and was like "Meth is awesome I hate sleep!"
asciilifeform: i don't recall it in the logz
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: did I ever tell you the story of how my old college mentor, got raided for Meth. And somehow through self representation was able to get the charges reduced to misdemeanors?
thestringpuller: Most of the time law enforcement is like "what is this? maple syrup?!?"
asciilifeform: in fact, iirc it is no longer even necessary to have actual dope, there are folks doing time for packets of sugar and flour.
thestringpuller: But the actuality is no one rolls around with more than maybe a half gram of extract.
asciilifeform: so, as i understand, if arrestee were carrying extract in his pocket, and it were to rain, and the water pools in the pocket... he will be tried for entire mass, original + rainwater.
thestringpuller: in a lab scenario when the DEA is busting in they just want to fuck you as much as they can because "FREE MONEY"
asciilifeform: i found the detail interesting because usg exempts itself by decree from conservation of mass...
thestringpuller: that's why the trap house is never at your mom's house
thestringpuller: as dave chappelle says, we know the dope laws like lawyers. everytime we do something felonious, an old black dude pops out and says, "hey nigga thats 10-20"
asciilifeform: esp for folks lacking a source of vacuum and drying in the sun etc.
mats: plus you're in the perfect demographic
asciilifeform: thestringpuller may recall a recent thread on american dope laws, where if someone is found with, e.g., extract in intermediate (still dilute) stage, the sentence will be as if entire volume of liquid were the pure dope.
mats: you can recook the stuff if you're worried about butane
thestringpuller: mats: I know. It makes me sad. They just want everyone to be dumb :(
mats: i'm not responsible for the war on science, just telling you its a thing
thestringpuller: I have asthma so for me personally less irritatoin on lungs for greater affect. I use it medicinally in combination with other focus medications.
thestringpuller: PeterL: partially. They use butane solvents for the initial extract on the east coast cause higher yields, but butane sucks.
PeterL: maybe thestringpuller does not trust the guys trying to sell him stuff, needs to make of known purity?
thestringpuller: So I'm finally interested in chemistry and now there is a war on science?
thestringpuller: maybe? once you do fractional distallation the product is like 99% active ingredient
asciilifeform: the foxacid dump
mats: your link or the amateur chemist?
asciilifeform: 'MistyVeal cannot call out on the network on its own. It piggybacks on Internet Explorer to call out on the network. ... If a target is using FireFox and has MistyVeal on the box, MistyVeal does nothing.'
PeterL: jab a brush in from either pig face or guy head
PeterL: washes easily enough, run solvent through from either direction
PeterL: the "short" in "short path distilation" is easier to get with one piece than if you have to use part of length for connectors
asciilifeform: what i don't get is why the thing needs to be a unitary piece of glass
mats: ecuadorian indigenous peoples are ideally slowly starving to death on whatever subsistence farming they're doing
asciilifeform: mats: nobody gives a fuck re 'oppressed'. a bullet in the head of maniac with axe is a gift to everyone he might have otherwise run into, regardless of whether possibly somewhere there are others like him, not yet shot.
mats: they want that to change, gotta stop being useless
asciilifeform: even abos in australia, nameless savages in amazon forest, chukchas in the godforsaken arctic circle. them also.
asciilifeform: mats: demolition of usg serves interests of all sane people on the globe, yes, even in moscow
phf: the guy who invented tiling window managers (tuomo valkonen, he wrote Ion, that nobody probably remembers at this point), quit linux in 2005 or so over exactly these things. his pet peve was all the retardation that was going into x11 as part of linux on desktop movement. of course back then people laughed at him, etc.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 12:39 PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524397 << this thing is informally known as a MFP - if you flip it upside down it looks just like a "man fucking pig" (and grad students find humor in the weirdest things)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell PeterL http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525032 << for a spell i did not figure out what was meant, but then, http://www.laboyglass.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/m/hmd011903.jpg !!
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 05:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1522996 << yeah, i yield the point ; seems alf's theory prevails. at some point the guy was gutted, the skin made hand puppet.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 19:17 asciilifeform: https://coldwardaily.com/2016/08/17/shadow-brokers-nsa-exploits-doubts-about-edward-snowdens-tweets << meanwhile somebody asks the obvious q.
mats: https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowden-documents-confirm << snowden continues to shape the narrative about western intel agencies
asciilifeform: and if you start seriously pulling on it, the duct tape - WILL come off.
asciilifeform: folks labour under delusion that the problems of 'dawn of linux' were solved. they were not.
asciilifeform: and horrors of the cthonian deep, such as real mode bios callouts (as in x11), or acpi crapolade.
asciilifeform: (and many of the 'solutions' to 'diy required', such as automake, are evil.)
phf: you just forgot how it was in '98. you now have wider range of available shit, so it's the snr that has changed. there was definitely a peak free software where available range also had max hacker value, i.e. intangible quality of buildable, inspectable, etc. but before that free software was kind of shit with a lot of dyi required.
asciilifeform: phf: did you miss the gpg2 thread ?
a111: Logged on 2014-11-14 22:24 asciilifeform: (for n00bs only: who is 'lizard hitler' ? a character approximately as real as magnetic field lines were to michael faraday. don't look for magnetic field lines, they aren't there. physically. or as far as we can tell, anyway.)
phf: fwiw, i suspect there's as many users of terrorist os as there were in the 90s, or as little. just a lot more users of microshit variety, and also users of obuntus and such, that scew the picture
asciilifeform: point was that they do not need to
phf: we're on the same page, but purely from entomology perspective, i, for example, don't know how two competing groups of termites behave when joining forces.
PeterL: do ants and termites get together to agree on how to demolish house?
asciilifeform: or do they just chew.
phf: well, i'm more interested in mechanics of it all, since i don't believe in lizard hitler. do thugs of both camps meet at the canteen and measure each other up? are they going to embrace mutual scam wholeheartedly? are they going to try and undermine each other in subtle ways?
asciilifeform: how many users left today of 'terrorist' os, where you can (and must) rebuild ALL of the binaries locally ?
asciilifeform: currently they have folks sawing in convergent directions, microshitians to 'linuxize', embrace, extend, e.g., the powershell derps; and poetterings to winblowiate linuxland, e.g., systemd.
asciilifeform: the ~aimed~ endgame, we already knew in 1990s, Official Microshit Linux, with all of the idiocies in one pot, and nothing else will boot on new comp, because signing key in fritz chip.
phf: are they going to integrate many lulz of systemd? are they going to do more dodgy shit, with nameless anons ripping hair on chest with indignation? are they going to coexist with freedesktop community, kind of like how one huckster can always recognize another, and keep each other at respectful distance until there's an opportunity for an underhanded move
asciilifeform: and yes, apparently microshit implemented a turd that takes ~none of the commands eaten by actual curl OR wget, but is symlinked to BOTH names.
asciilifeform: a: 'We're not saying here that this isn't a change we can investigate, but per our governance model we need to have a conversation around it. The impact of this change would be far-reaching, and it's not one we can make lightly.'
asciilifeform: the real tools.'
asciilifeform: q: 'You adding them was "a breaking change" to people who were used to using curl and wget from their command lines. No sane person would use those alises anyway since your replacements for curl and wget aren't working anywhere near like the original curl and wget command line tools. These aliases are only making the life harder of the users who actually want the real tools and they don't do anything good for those who don't care for
asciilifeform: a: 'We are rejecting this PR as it introduces "Unacceptable Changes", see our breaking change contract. If you disagree with this resolution, you will need to start an RFC. Note that our RFC process currently states only team members may create a new RFC. Our intent is to open this up to the community at large, we'll be updating that repo very soon to clarify.'
asciilifeform: q: 'remove curl and wget aliases #1901. They block use of the commonly used command line tools without providing even an attempt to offer the same functionality. They serve no purpose for PowerShell users but cause confusion and problems to existing curl and wget users.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the brave young world of microshit-flavoured (yes) open-sores, https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834829 << 'gpg-agent'
asciilifeform: ( there was a mircea_popescu piece ... somewhere )
asciilifeform: sorta like those centurions who threw out the armour, 'too heavy'
asciilifeform: and, as i understand, the rest of it - flowed from this.
asciilifeform: so they 'fudged', and began piping traffic over conventional net, symmetrically crypted
asciilifeform: then it was deemed impractical, to have separate fibers run in unmarked pipes, set in cement, around entire continent
mircea_popescu: the lulziest part being that they've been aware of this for years and don't know how to fix it.
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the leaks are due to retarded client-server architectures deployued for no conceivable reason which they don't know how to secure
asciilifeform: i've been told that nsa castle of doom actually suffers from the same profusion of 'dockers', etc. as typical american software co.
mircea_popescu: "here, download docker, configure orchestrator, push this butonetor and write your number. the restful interface will return a bevy of young ladies with the factors written in mascara on their tits."
asciilifeform: (though it would not astonish me if some keys in my collection had a prime n. devil knows i've seen every ~other~ deformity.)
mircea_popescu: mno. you primality-test the N.
mircea_popescu: no, and it's not a scalar either, it's an estimation.
asciilifeform: i'd like to know from where he got the figure - no source is cited.
mircea_popescu: it was however the basis of later stuff that WAS of use.
mircea_popescu: i just mean the part where "everyone knows the moduli don't factor" "oh look they do"
mircea_popescu: moreover, subtle errors in technology are best made evident with radically different approaches. "have both deterministic and non deterministic tests, notwithstanding IT IS PROVEN the latter converges" is substantially the same thought process as produced phuctor.
asciilifeform: if crypto-academia were something like a going concern, rather than elaborate circle wank, we might actually have had one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is the reasoning here - yes rm can be made to converge. so what's it hurt to have another test ?
asciilifeform: i.e. there is always a - calculable - chance that your result bit uncorrectedly flips right before you read it.
mircea_popescu: by definition, the efficiency of the single given method to do anything is always 100%
asciilifeform: it also helps to remember that there is no such actual thing as a fully deterministic algo for a physical machine.
mircea_popescu: the definition of this "efficient" is suspicious.
asciilifeform: 'The very fact that the check for whether the number 9965468763136528274628451 is prime ( in Table 5.3 ) took as much as around 70 minutes shows how inefficient it is.'
asciilifeform: re, aks, if mircea_popescu can't be arsed to wade through the linked piece,
asciilifeform: 'oh we can't have keygen take a week, and besides, who will sit and wiggle the mouse.'
asciilifeform: since the dark ages, and up.
mircea_popescu: im ill equipped to cut through the inanity of gnupg.
asciilifeform: why is there 'randomlevel' and 'secret' flag ?
mircea_popescu: and no, obd does not need 1mb, or beenfit from it. point was - if you're going to use spare entropy, it would be for this rather than too much waltzing or w/e.
asciilifeform: though funnily enough koch didn't pump ~that~ entropy from the whitened pool
asciilifeform: (interest in the subj is slim, on account of miller-rabin probabilistic test provably converging - i.e. probability of catastrophic failure can be made smaller than probability of machine flattened by asteroid the same night)
asciilifeform: you mean, what is the constant multiplicand ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the runtime on the one known deterministic test (saxena's algo) is prohibitive.
mircea_popescu: AND moreover, most of that legendary mb of entropy should go into the primality test, not into the prime gen
asciilifeform: incidentally, the traditional pattern of 'push this button for zero security' is everywhere present.
mircea_popescu: incidentally... the primality tests, being probabilistic, are already bs.
asciilifeform: (rng is also used in primality test, but it is switched into 'fast' gear and doesn't use the pool)
asciilifeform: (or was it derived wholly from pw ? i suppose i oughta read the thing, later.)
mircea_popescu: e of your aqents on the street, you'll be recognizing them on youtube, by how their liver and spleen squirms."
mircea_popescu: heh. "Five minutes later, Burnett called back and said, I dont believe you actually represent her.¹ Burnett stated additionally that a phone call from me might suffice, but that the FBI preferred to meet with me in person. After a pause he said, But
if we happen to run into her on the street, were gonna be asking her some questions without you present." << "That's fine. And if she happens to run into som
asciilifeform: incidentally, mr. lolcow just gave away, unwittingly, another gpg laugh - recall what else comes out of rng when you generate key, after the primes ?
mircea_popescu: check out the retrospectively-done-it-all man.
asciilifeform: 'i was there, i did it!' -- al gore, 9/12/01
mircea_popescu: back in the tardstalk glory days of 2012 it was "because competition!!!", but by now that nonsensical coverup has been disposed with.
mircea_popescu: to shari, brenda, cher and madonna whatever, the notion that anything changed is entirely foreign. they'll quite not understand the source of derision eg above, and imagine, to quote, "Author seems to have an axe to grind."
mircea_popescu: once nsa runs out of budget for the project, they are still... "working", just as they did before.
mircea_popescu: see, that's the thing with plowing flies : for as long as the plow appears to plow, they imagine their clicking through lolpics and whatever-not-irc-chat nonsense is "work"
asciilifeform: the bizarre autolysis is kinda interesting to me.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. not all graves are worth the stream of piss, and in the case of tor i'm well spent.
mircea_popescu: ved there was victims, why did no one ask if I had bad experiences with Jake? This would have been easy given that Alison spent an hour alone with me in a cafe at the last TorDev meeting and had several communication channels with me. Also I have been at Isis' place several times in the last months as I am dating her roommate Brennan" <<< MOTHERFUCKER. so what, i'm to watch low rent reruns of beverly hills 90201 now ? da fuck!
mircea_popescu: "The first thing I said when I saw this website, is that Shari failed. She knew people (many datapoints indicate the site creators are Alison and Isis) were about to do this. How could she let this happen? I am strongly wondering if this was really about protecting women. Here's what I noticed: I am a woman, and I estimate that more than half of the Tor core people know I was dating him, or at least close to him. If Tor belie
mod6: yeah, there is that part too.
asciilifeform: (incidentally i have nfi whether gnu patch util will apply a patch that simply 'FALSE'-s a deleted file, without the minusola.)
asciilifeform: mod6: but in the case of vdiff, there is no use for it, it simply makes patch unreadable.
mod6: <asciilifeform> imho 'vdiff' ought to zap 'minus' changes in cases where an entire file turns 'FALSE' (absent) - they take up space for no reason, given as we display a hash in the --- entry. what do you think ? << ah... ok. let me think about the impact of such a change here.
mod6: i'll work on an estimate for the 2015 time spent (for me at least).
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b385a4e6-836d-4829-b157-d157b09c5a4f/?raw=true << and the drepper grep, is too long to take up log space !
asciilifeform: g10/ChangeLog: the new iobuf_skip_reset. Orginal patch by Florian Weimer.
mircea_popescu: then what follows is inane dribble.
mircea_popescu: "But what happened is so unfair to so many people, in so many ways, that I cannot keep this for me." << this counts as "i raise my arms, to either kill or be killed, but to no longer continue this life"
mircea_popescu: that's the objection. they try to import terminology born of 9gag and at home on 9gag into actual discourse about their actual lives.
mircea_popescu: mno. because after being used for microamps, the item reverts to miliamps when exposed to miliamps.
asciilifeform: the moment derp's universe begins to include fallopian hangings, perspective will readjust.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 i came to this by attempting vdiff of gnupg 1.4.10 vs their .21 release from wednesday, and ending up with an unreadable 8MB turd, they moved/rm'd a buncha files.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 imho 'vdiff' ought to zap 'minus' changes in cases where an entire file turns 'FALSE' (absent) - they take up space for no reason, given as we display a hash in the --- entry. what do you think ?
mircea_popescu: no sense of proportion, like they got a coupla octopus eyes.
mircea_popescu: schmuck seriously thinks "creating a website" "is beyond terrible". really ? and hanging her by her own fallopian tubes is what then ? beyond-beyond-horrible ?
mircea_popescu: ever since http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/ i can't shake the feeling all these, age irrespective, gender irrespective, are really the same community-college educated, chronic masturbator.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what is with the redditarded generation, that whenever they have to do one of these important, man-talks-to-world, "soul searching" pieces they always come off as utter dweebs speaking in a dreary monotone about really trivial, boring minutia ?
asciilifeform: eh, mircea_popescu preemptively turned that knob to '11' with own hands, if it is turned any further it will probably come off.
mircea_popescu is looking forward to the "mp raped me and wrote messages to aliens on my tits" campaigns to come, once the present generation of herders that earned a clue in battle retire and a new generation of socialmedia tards / paul biggars takes over the "full spectrum dominance" idiotmobile.
mircea_popescu: compare an' contrast the whole "oh, mp really really needs bitbet funds so he'll retract de facto" "oh wait, shit omg" campaign this spring.
mircea_popescu: the willingness of the idiots to be used as condoms is nothing short of staggering, even if it comes up in logs periodically.
asciilifeform: i don't know the fella personally, but afaik he has not seppukued
mircea_popescu: rotten shitstack collapsed like a rotten shitstack the moment as much as a mild breeze of lolrape blew its way.
mircea_popescu: well... there you go. fine example.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ << Trilema - CIA Factbook : The Most Serene Republic
asciilifeform: to round off the appelbaum thread, https://archive.is/2mePQ << lolcow with opposite electric charge.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!
mircea_popescu: aaaand the bering strait is still unpartitioned
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : russia and japan still technically in ww2, never agreed on kuriles partition
mircea_popescu: for all you know it could be parochial "i've heard of thieves but not the plague, hence should build thief wall not plague wall"
asciilifeform: is this basic game of 'we'll poshly auto-de-fe idiots, but quietly ignore actual opponents, see if we can breed the former to displace all oxygen for the latter' ?
asciilifeform: the (much-exaggerated) sufferings of greenwald come to mind.
asciilifeform: dafuq are their skins worth to anybody ?
asciilifeform: just as the appelbaum thing.
asciilifeform: anyway rest of the dump consists of details re ready-baked 'victims' who, when pressed, would zip lips and pout, organizations from which a. was expelled, etc.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-15 01:11 mircea_popescu: maybe there's something juicy in there like you know, plagiarism (for sure there is), and like mathematica stealing of stuff from people (almost willing to bet)
a111: Logged on 2015-11-15 01:17 mircea_popescu: i have this pile of very secret derpage here including the very expert "profile" of some random derp explaining how an elderly, principled gentleman is perhaps going to react crazily to the crass injustice of this entire scheme.
mircea_popescu: the chicago "professor" ?
asciilifeform: the 'plagiarism' thing appears to be based on usg's psychological portrait of the schmuck
mircea_popescu: i can't be arsed to follow. i trust we're satisfied with that quote for the entire thing ?
mircea_popescu: however, plagiarism is hardly a thing in the first place. so no.
mircea_popescu: almost anything is more serious than "using the tools in the manner they were designed without the alleged owner's permission".
asciilifeform: of the debate because he "thought a bit more about things and decided I had better things to emotionally invest myself in than an angry riot."'
asciilifeform: 't ever do so, since she's already told Leidl (who challenged how she defined 'plagiarism') that "when research that gets stolen was only communicated about orally, there is no paper trail." Kaminsky, one of the alleged victims, was also unwilling to provide details. Cryptocat developer Nadim Kobeissi has also argued with Appelbaum in the past with regards to attribution rights, but outside of one tweet on the subject has stayed out
asciilifeform: 'Auernheimer replied to Patterson's thread, saying "plagiarism is a more serious allegation than rape to me personally... The bug Jake stole from Len was awesome. Once in a lifetime kind of stuff. Irreplaceable." American journalist Quinn Norton later also claimed involvement in plagiarism disputes with Appelbuam. They have yet to directly specify, or present evidence of, what work he plagiarised. In Patterson's case she probably won
mircea_popescu: im sure they don't.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly the halting problem.
asciilifeform: the only algo that 'solves all problems, permanently' is eating nagant.
mircea_popescu: i did not ask. i pointed out to you that "my algo solves this problem" is no solution to the halting problem in the general.