asciilifeform: two coats, neither pierced.
asciilifeform: y'mean the raygun from last thread ?
mircea_popescu: i think it might beat raytheon
asciilifeform: all i ever changed were the buttons.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: was it the same in entire sovblok ?
asciilifeform never lacked for meat, nor had any notion that any european childrenz in 20th motherfucking century, might have.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'which meant that out of a hundred or so kids eating in a large room, I was the one getting the chicken meat parts. Which I didn't like, nor ate, because they were inferior bits to what I normally chomped at home, and they consequently didn't interest me, notwithstanding that most of those children had never in their life eaten meat. Supposedly it was good for them, right ? Vegetarianism is the future and all that ?'
asciilifeform: then it is most appropriate to use sequence number
phf: because you don't need to place all rates into absolute order, you just need to order rates of a single person, then it's up to that person to choose which sequence they use. of course better to just keep own counter, but lazy people can rely on timestamp, and get screwed over from time to time
asciilifeform: there is not a guarantee even of this
phf: asciilifeform: only important is that one number is bigger than another
asciilifeform: phf: when you make use of a timestamp, you are also asking ~other~ people to trust clock not to fuck ~them~ over.
phf: trinque: well, since it's only order of your own rates that's important (rather than global rate order), then you can keep own sequence. 1.rate.phf.-1.doofus, 2.rate.phf.3.actually i take that back. you can just use timestamp if you trust your clock to not fuck you over
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 21:44 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ << Trilema - The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated. Part One.
znort987: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527884 << jeez. mother of all the walls of text. life is short ... will try to digest at some point
asciilifeform: and - do i need to draw a picture, or is this obvious ? - they are free to ignore it; or they may not even GET the message; and are guaranteed to get it, IF they get it, at different physical TIMES
trinque: phf: ftr I wholly support this idea, and in this scheme it's not global time that matters; it's when deedbot saw the material.
asciilifeform: there is only a message, that you can transmit to other ~people~, politely asking 'please stop using this key'
phf: if it's keys signing keys then deedbot's ux is rediced to wotpaste urls to signed messages, and then deedbots role is to download/keep a history
znort987: asciilifeform: nope. noob here. been reading *some* of the recent logs.
asciilifeform: revocation is a ~promise~, in that there is not such a thing, and never will be such a thing, as a magical lever that instantly makes a key stop working.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ << Trilema - The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated. Part One.
asciilifeform: znort987: familiar with the 'protocol vs promise' concept that we developed and exposed here ?
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah the timestamp of sigs in gpg has always felt like a sorely missing feature. but then I guess you'd need - idk - a blockchain to solve that particular problem I guess.
asciilifeform: ^ there was at least one detailed thread re this.
asciilifeform: znort987: rather, yes, there was provision for it in the original openpgp spec, but it is a bogus concept because it entails a global repository of revocation messages and a universal agreement re what time it presently is.
trinque: could do the chattering to other deedbots about ratings if ratings were signed matter fed to deedbot via pastebin
asciilifeform: (though i suppose it could ~store~ the key-rated-key item as easily as anything else could)
znort987: trinque: one point that was raised (in other chan) around the gpg keys signing ratings of other keys was how to handle revoked keys.
trinque: aha, I'm not gonna bolt some sweet shit on the side of deedbot til gossipd
asciilifeform: the 'keys rating keys' thing does not yet exist.
znort987: asciilifeform: yeah, I had that conversation in the other universe. I actually had assumed - given who hangs here - that wot was just gpg keys giving rating to gpg keys and that as long as signed ratings were broadcast far and wide, there was no need for central server. but then I was wrong and discovered the 3-headed snake. I think I'm more or less up to date now.
asciilifeform: most of the users of each successive wotron left the previous one 'to the worms and flies' and quit updating ratings therein.
asciilifeform: znort987: there is not - unfortunately - yet a fully decentralized (see 'gossipd' thread) wot mechanism. but there are at least 3 centralized wotrons. in order of age: -otc wot; kakobreklan ('assbot') wot; and #trilema wot.
znort987: so fully aware. also don't have a dog in this fight. like I said was trying to see how the wot worked and gave rating where I felt they were due
znort987: asciilifeform: yes, I spent the last week or so reading the logs in both parallel universes before I dip my toes in the waters of irc.
BingoBoingo: For that we need to go back to the Egyptian Scientists and that time Big headed Yakub invented white folk as the perfect slave race.
asciilifeform: and with why kakobrekla is not to be found there ?
asciilifeform: znort987: are you familiar with how there came to be a #trilema ?
znort987: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526766 << for the record, not 'as we speak'. kako was helpful during the hand-over in May/Early June. rating was also given to exercise my understanding of the wot.
asciilifeform: ( source, http://www.antiquemoney.com/old-one-thousand-dollar-bill-value-price-guide << another numismatic-type vendor )
asciilifeform: n see a one thousand dollar bank note issued before 1900. That is why large size $1,000 bills are so rare today. If you were rich enough to see one, you were smart enough to not keep it. Currency didn't really become collectible until the 1950s. There was no reason to save a $1,000 bill. You were just losing out on the interest it could be earning.'
asciilifeform: 'It should go without saying that at the time when most $1,000 bills were printed that they were virtually unobtainable for the average American citizen. We are specifically talking about 1928 and 1934 notes. You can only imagine what kind of purchasing power a $1,000 bill had during the great depression. What is really amazing is that $1,000 bills were first issued during the 1860s. You would have to be extremely wealthy to ever eve
asciilifeform: ed examples should be worth face value. All other notes are definitely collectible. Some $1,000 bills can be worth several thousand dollars each. Your standard value for a generic note in lightly circulated condition is probably $1,600.'
asciilifeform: elsewhere, 'One thousand dollar bills may seem rare and exotic to the casual observers. The latest series date is 1934A. Surprisingly though, $1,000 bills were seen in circulation up until the early 1970s. You could still order them from banks in the 1960s. It is not uncommon for older Americans to take them to the bank to try to get face value today. Of course we wouldn’t recommend selling them for face value. Only severely impair
gribble: The operation succeeded.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it's better than my notebook :) I'm pretty sure my cleaning lady plugged the computer off. OK, you guys win, I'll pay a vps shit just to install this little shit.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli you're supposed to get a cheap vps and run znc there.
mircea_popescu: AND HOLD IT THERE.
mircea_popescu: you know the "is it true aspirin is contraceptive" ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell felipelalli y'know, znc is supposed to go on RELIABLE, remote box... not the comp on your desk.
phf: because you couldn't really test strength against girl, that was inconceivable and those who tried were just weirdos (not to mention testing strength against girl the fuck), but if you managed to do a sneak drop
mircea_popescu: phf by and large the deep driver being that girls at that age suck, being as they are ~marmots. babyfat bubbles on uneasy legs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it got pretty much all of the girls wearing dresses.
mircea_popescu: 10yo acceptable maneuvers re girls were a) throwing soft snowball (really hard iced ones were for boys only!) ; sticking snow behind neck but only if done with trickery (ie, if the girl was aware she's about to get it you couldn't do it) and finally pulling pants off. bonus points if also underwear.
phf: there's mtg but there's not even trade around mtg, afaiu it is heavily mediated through parents "so it that it's fair"
asciilifeform: also i dun see the connection with wrestling (in what school do little kids not wrestle one another?)
asciilifeform: but 'naturam expellas furca tamen usque recurret' (tm) (r) so betcha they have SOMETHING.
mircea_popescu: the ~reason we monetized these was because a) we'd snowball the girls into little piles as soon as the snow came and b) we'd wrestle hundreds of times a day.
asciilifeform: i did not go to ~these~ schools, no.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't. these spontaneous monetizations are spontaneous from an interplay of sexuality and violence which does not exist in anglo world.
asciilifeform: was quite reminiscent of the chewing gum.
BingoBoingo: microagressions aren't real. There's just actual aggressions and thinskinned butthurt
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if even today schoolboys did not have these 'spontaneous monetizations'
mircea_popescu: no lol. these are turkish makers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was any of this a thing on your side of the ocean ?
asciilifeform: i remember ~all of these.
phf: i remember that aston martin one it was a much coveted item because of the cyberpunk lady http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6pAAAOSwZ8ZW2yJW/s-l1600.jpg in fact i remember half of these.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, them!
BingoBoingo: anyways asciilifeform The auction made qntra early
asciilifeform: phf: holy shit, i half-suspected i had the last extant examples.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-07 16:12 mircea_popescu: turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/cost-of-wrong-kitty-litter-escalates-into-the-billions-following-nuclear-waste-accident/ << Qntra - Cost Of Wrong Kitty Litter Escalates Into The Billions Following Nuclear Waste Accident
mircea_popescu: yeah well there is also that.
asciilifeform: ('in what?' 'in this big pot of real money you idiots gave me for them, that i PROMISE!1111 never to spend')
mircea_popescu: ie, THESE coins are now going to be SHARES in so and so.
mircea_popescu: nah. the original colored coins was a "let's do mpex over bitcoin network because mp is something you can replace by a napkin sketch of a protocol"
mircea_popescu: turns out pretense empire always dies the same ways.
mircea_popescu: really, the 1700s are more instructive to the student of modern finance than any available material.
mircea_popescu: THEN came up with idea of lottery, to repay full value for the serials took from a hat.
mircea_popescu: so they devalued
mircea_popescu: then didn't pay.
mircea_popescu: well, state issued "rents", ie, you give them so much and they give you so much back.
mircea_popescu: (anyone up to date on the lulz that passed for fiscal management of the kingdom back in 1750s ? )
mircea_popescu: also money lottery was popular in the time of voltaire
asciilifeform: i personally played with massive shoebox of rubles as a boy, and buncha other folk here also.
asciilifeform: i was thinking of direct analogue of 'coloured coin', that is, 'issued' by derp who has 0 connection to the mint
mircea_popescu: to get you the actual pointers i'd have to dig out through my official history of currency trainingbook which i continents ago misplaced.
asciilifeform: phf: these never circulated
mircea_popescu: but they did.
shinohai: I'll gladly make someone coloured coin and relieve them of good BTC
mircea_popescu: heck, we might even implement sidechains of whatever fashionable flavour of the month, as a bold-on, if anyone's bored enough.
mircea_popescu: that they make segwit ; that we make deedbot (the two are not even vaguely dissimilar, by the way, except prb doesn't know how to code cleanly), is really nobody's problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'segwit' thing is, as i understand, intended as a protocol hardfork - to isolate trb users.
asciilifeform: node operation, in the present implementation of the braindamage, is almost a 'religious' act
mircea_popescu: this is all fine. and they're more than welcome to hold whatever sidechain db in whatever manner until they fall over.
mircea_popescu: given the dilemma of http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ the choice was to find a solution that doesn't brick extant miners. understandably.
mircea_popescu: the other side of "segwit" is that there will NEVER be a block size increase. period and full stop.
asciilifeform: then i gotta.
ben_vulpes: it's an excellent opportunity to teach about the stealing being stolen.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: earlier observation is just that - observation. that turdmeisters apparently wish to live as cockroaches in the crevices of bitcoin, instead of issuing 'honest' plainly labeled usg alt.
mircea_popescu: stupidity is always tragic to the stupid.
ben_vulpes: more tragically, do you know how many social media mommies think that 20 likes on instagram trump 3 girlfriends who'll come over and hold their kid while the smm sobs over a lost parent?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, do you know how many think they have seven sons ?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many people think they have "money in the bank", a la http://trilema.com/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/ ?
mircea_popescu: there's no end to the human capacity for self delusion - which is fundamentally the point of our discussion coupla days ago. you can't have a protocol that keeps people from being stupid.
mircea_popescu: there's also people who imagine they "have a voice" ; or "social media power" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: there will (and perhaps already are) a multitude of chumpers who believe they have X btc, while really they have some quantity Q, possible 0, of actual btc, and X-Q of gavinola, which consists of tx, somehow elaborately processed, that trb rejects as noise, and display as wtf 'shot into the sun' crapolade in any civilized block viewer
mircea_popescu: just as much as i cared about the 2012 variant.
mircea_popescu: sure, this will prolly "be implemented" ; then some idiots will "use it" ; then we'll get some "oh mp is a scammer because i sent him 5 btc he's not recognizing" threads on reddit.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!
asciilifeform: their entire toolkit, when confronted with something that 'mysteriously' refuses to die when asked nicely, appears to consist of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511945
asciilifeform: or 'not-quite-blocks', 'segregated shitnesses', or what are they calling pseudo-blox today, i lost track.
asciilifeform: which is naturally a coveted wet dream of the enemy, retconning blocks.
asciilifeform: 'we'll have tx whose outputs depend on the text of next month's new york times, fuckyou'
asciilifeform: 'here's what we gonna do when we get the rapehole in'
asciilifeform: re the 'crowbars' from earlier, we have a 'This BIP defines a new witness program type that uses a Merkle tree to encode mutually exclusive branches in a script. This enables complicated redemption conditions that are currently not possible, improves privacy by hiding unexecuted scripts, and allows inclusion of non-consensus enforced data with very low or no additional cost.'
asciilifeform: the contractors live off-campus, working out of, e.g., raytheon, grumman, lockheed, and a bunch of 'small minority-owned businesses' (tm), and generally specialize in 'tools', rather than particular ops
mircea_popescu: i think they're slimming.
asciilifeform: and naturally a full platoon administrative, 'diverse veteran-hire' barn animals for each of these folk.
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's 'seeeekrit evidential' sources, there are ~300 men, plus several thou 'contractors', of which perhaps 1 in 10 is a trojan writer in the usual sense, and the rest '0day finder' monkeys, operations 'trigger pullers', and similar.
mircea_popescu: a dozen people (if that) carry on their "very reasonably engineered" with flecks of "right thing" a la mmap shoulders THOUSANDS of fucking social media monkeys and assorted barn animals ; they see a paltry few thousands out of the BILLIONS this shitfest burns each year ; and they don't even have good parking spaces.
mircea_popescu: the one true shocker (and unsurprisingly fishwraps avoid the mention) is just how few hands were involved.
mircea_popescu: but you got the code.
mircea_popescu: count the hands.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the leaked widgets give a pretty good impression of the production quality, actually
mircea_popescu: mmap is the right tool!
asciilifeform: 'anonymous buyer who may or may not exist bought bag of coin which may or may not have been there'
asciilifeform: 'BLATSTING's implementers are a big fan of mmap. It seems to be used for all file access, not just for manipulating kernel memory through `/dev/mem`. Is it done this way to reduce the number of system calls, to be less conspicious, as well as not reveal what exactly is accessed when running in `strace`? Or maybe a later stage of the rootkit blocks certain kinds of syscalls on certain "hidden" files.'
mircea_popescu: neither do i.
asciilifeform: '... laanwj is the one who actually holds all the control over bitcoin protcol for now. '
asciilifeform: ' If ever there were a situation crying out for a smart contract - this is it.'
asciilifeform: 'Given the contentious situation we are living it is just my opinion that laanwj has the moral obligation to give the keys back to Gavin. Satoshi can be considered a person who passed away and last will was to have Gavin in control.'
mircea_popescu: derp actually was dumb enough to cover for vessenes/merck and the rest of the scammer band ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc it was tried, the doge thing
mircea_popescu: laughably stupid never prevented them before.
asciilifeform: a full frontal attack against the total issue cap would've been laughably stupid, so they will try ~every other possible angle.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
asciilifeform: lizards nailed gold, and 'eternally refight the last war', just about all prb-isms are elements of 'here's where we can apply conservation-law-violation crowbar when we finally get hold of one'
asciilifeform: which is to say, chumps, permitting freeloading on their machine resource.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understand, 'these situations' can only exist for so long as somebody relays tx-with-ancestors-only-in-mempool.
mircea_popescu: eh, usg's problem is that it ain't got no money; not that it ain't got where to use the money it has.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No. Miners already were looking for those situations to collect fees. This is just dump a bunch of unnecessary turdcode on the masses
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't think there was a time since I came into communion with the proto-republic where it wasn't the case.
asciilifeform: 'parent for child' gives usg a new place to spend the waterfall - as subsidies for 'expediting' Officially Blessed tx.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform back before they got smushed on eth, when they thought they got money and a voice ? yeah, i remember.
asciilifeform: recall the mit mega-leak (meanwhile 'unhappened') re bribing miners ?
mircea_popescu: trb is however distinguished by being the most acceptant. so...
PeterL: otherwise would fork, no?
mircea_popescu: it was put in because they're desperate for relevancy ; and it was free code ; and more code is more better.
mircea_popescu: miner runnign trb-esque thing only would not, right. the first gets cut off because fees, the second because unknown inputs.
mircea_popescu: basically prb is trying to act as a sort of bitcoin mining code repository ; some of the miners contribute some of the less critical code and well... github.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, PeterL was pointing out that trb does not relay the ingredients desired in this kitchen.
mircea_popescu: PeterL what's contemplated here is a) miner's internal kitchen, which he's allowed to do on the grounds of having paid for the gear ; b) not substantially different, you can just regard the two txn as one, provided you know about both.
asciilifeform: 'Backing up an HD wallet ensures that you will be able to re-generate any private keys produced by that wallet in the future...' << lift hdd contents via nsa lizardport once, lift coin that chump gets hold of years later !
asciilifeform: as per the 'NEVER something-for-nothing-to-allcomers' principle.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is there some rule that "experts" in anglosphere must be ludicrously inept at their chosen expertise, as per their own lights ? << Yes, if every "expert" sucks then tournament market doesn't need a very sweet pot for the winrar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, why : because merchants want to be able to "service" the inept consumer by tacking on extra fees if they get delayed.
asciilifeform: and if this were not enough, now we get Official arm binaries, with 'These binaries are designed for Linux using GNU libc6'
asciilifeform: 'This incentivization scheme is often called Child Pays For Parent (CPFP). In the simplest version, miners group a transaction and all of its ancestors together, calculating their total fee-per-byte in order to determine whether mining them together pays a high enough fee to outbid other individual transactions the miner wants to include in its next block.' << ain't that O(N^2) ?
asciilifeform: ansactions part of the block for itself. If the node doesn’t receive all the transactions it needs to fully reconstruct the block, it requests the missing transactions from its peers, and then uses them to complete the block.'
asciilifeform: and let's also introduce a new lulzvector! -- 'There’s no need for the node to receive the transaction a second time if it still has the first copy. Compact block relay (BIP152) can eliminate this redundancy by allowing a node to receive from its peers an ordered list of what transactions are included in a new block. With this knowledge, the node can use the transactions it has already received to partly or fully reconstruct the tr
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 13:54 shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in this case i was thinking of the microwave blaster thing
phf: i always assumed lizard hitler death ray is activated by total recall style machinery, complete with four fingered alien hand shape on the switch
mircea_popescu: anyway, ~everyone figured out by now the usg can not continue.
asciilifeform: probably linked for the lulgem, 'It’s interesting to note that many of the Constitutional protections afforded to American citizens still apply to those in arms against the government. For instance, federal judges will still have to authorize wiretaps on rebel phones during all phases of the federal response.'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: never mention the death ray!!!!11
asciilifeform: no mention of death ray, either!11111
thestringpuller: lol "we're combing the desert" i always thought the afro pick was a nice touch. they don't make movies like that anymore.
asciilifeform: 'That night, I threw a wild tantrum, screaming and crying for hours on end. I had the whole apartment to myself, so there was no one there to hear me. I raged at the entire world, thrashing at my bed with my wooden practice sword and slashing at the air with my pocket knife. I even downed an entire bottle of wine, and got so drunk that I spilled my wine all over my laptop, permanently destroying it. I soaked my pillow with tears as I
mircea_popescu: teh beoble want living wage! too dumb to otherwise feed self!
shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer.
asciilifeform: rather, völkischer beobachter on subj.
mircea_popescu: the place produces scarce aught else.
asciilifeform: oh hah, one of ~these~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the title is "The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated."
asciilifeform: but he had something-or-other on time delay
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm starting adnotation work on mega 110k word opus. possibly the only item of interest to come out of usian letters this year.
asciilifeform: what can i say, some patients make do with ordinary dildo, others - need 5-horsepower rectal educator.
mircea_popescu: but apparently what i say is somehow optional rather not mandatory now or some weird shit.
mircea_popescu: not like i didn't put a fucking notice! on the very trilema!
mircea_popescu: (all of which, of course, entirely oblivious to the fact that their "branding" entirely fails to work, for one, and of the global meaning of this sort of cultural crushing on the other)
asciilifeform: at least the ones with ~anything to say.
asciilifeform: half of the 313337 seeeek0000rity types nearly, already
mircea_popescu is idly curious just how many "independent venues" will be reduced to "here's my inept restatement of logs" before the year/decade's out
mircea_popescu: is he reading the logz or what.
asciilifeform: d responsible for these war crimes, what they and their family members look like, and where they live.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of orlols, 'From a diplomatic perspective, it would be much more tidy to treat the problem of war criminals running the US as an internal, American political problem, to be solved by Americans themselves, with an absolute minimum of outside help. This would best be accomplished through a bit of friendly, neighborly intelligence-sharing, letting all interested parties within the US know who exactly should be hel
mircea_popescu: ally IS the absolutel measure of "how barbaric are the times ?" : look how many of the fortresses build to keep the barbarians out are actually working to keep them in.)
mircea_popescu: (the foregoing, outrageously, shamefully, shockingly, is merely a plain restatement of the intellectual scepticism requirement. in the ignare, barbarous world we find ourselves immersed, this apparently needs statement, because the concept has somehow been hijacked by the very fucking arlequins it's supposed to guard against, from "obama" to "roger ver" and the whole kaboodle of rotten, hollow reeds in between. which incident
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:13 mircea_popescu: evidently, the socialist party does the exact same thing. for reasons of habit however, it doesn't irk you when they do it ; only when we do it.
mircea_popescu: which is the original point of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523089 : if for whatever reason you're unwilling to bias against pangloss, notwithstanding that this is both shown by experience to be a most productive, useful and eficacious heuristic as well as deductively sound ; nevertheless at the very least you can't bias FOR it.
mircea_popescu: then ~I~'m supposedly "held", absurdly, to "demonstrate" and to "bring proof" and to "verify signature" against a ridiculous "default" constructed in this manner.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the problem here is moreover default trust. so you wake up one day and you see... "gnupg". nomina nuda. you look around, theres' "werner koch" idem, nomina nuda. you look, there's "tor" with "shari" and "isis". names, hollow as can be. but the natural tendency of the brain, to see movement in a succession of stills and meaning in noise and structure in names convinces you these are THINGS.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526429 && http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526462 << OKAY OKAY, i lose this round. apparently i underestimated the malice in gnupg.... again. lol. (though, i wonder if the "bogus direct key signature import" applies to *subkeys*; but let's assume so, because, gnupg.)
mircea_popescu: is there some rule that "experts" in anglosphere must be ludicrously inept at their chosen expertise, as per their own lights ?
mircea_popescu: "come see what zimmerman thinks about encryption - a guy who admits to losing his pgp key sometime in the 90s and doesn't see the problem with this"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do these people always pick up this sort of incompetence ? oh, "dating advice from a loser who admits to spending four hours trying to get some derp to whatever, play dead fish for three minutes. presumably after spending 95 minutes trying to start his 1983 honda."
mircea_popescu: who in his right fucking mind has four hours to spend thusly ? even if you're not making 100k an hour writing cia factbook entries, the time is gotta be worth enough to hire a hooker.
mircea_popescu: "After dinner we went upstairs and I eased her onto my king-size bed. It took four hours of foreplay and at least thirty repetitions of No, Roosh, no until she allowed my penis to enter her vagina. No means nountil it means yes." << holy mother of ... well not of fuck, of ... snails, maybe ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-tatu-party-bus-and-other-wasps/ << Trilema - The Tatu Party Bus and other wasps.
mircea_popescu: in other non-news, lol @kim lacapria being all butthurt at gawker being thorn to shreds.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what makes you think yours would win out ? << Yeah this is problem clinically addressed with oral vancomycin and one of the few problems addressed by that.
mircea_popescu: did a "fuck girls in every country". overlapped some countries with my network in them, lulz resulted.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> that sounds very familiar << Runs the Return of Kink or whatever
mircea_popescu: lol original impetuus there was big story back in 2013, dude threw out laptop, thousands of btc
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2013/and-then-i-said-to-him-jimmy << obligatory.
mircea_popescu: lone may be excused, but no fucking way was it ever a selling point in the entire history of sexuate reproduction.
mircea_popescu: in other youtube news, "mujeres solteras en argentina buscan hombres solteros"
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/ftw-iris-the-fbis-electronics-detection-canine-081816.mov/view
asciilifeform: https://www.damninteresting.com/the-zero-armed-bandit << better pic.
phf: i guess they didn't pay
a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 22:04 asciilifeform: son: 'whatdoyamean i gotta dip them'
mircea_popescu: shinohai lmao check that out, exactly 0 tardstalk productivity. da fuck is wrong with the mouthbreathers.
asciilifeform: picture how the infamous http://harveysbombing.com/Photos.html could have worked with bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: recall the lulz of the various "corporations" in early history of finance ? brits got wind of italian/dutch economic practice, started... well, kickstarting basically.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, it works so shockingly for one thing that they started doing it "to see". and there's DEFINITELY a strong undercurrent of alt-sex in there.
gabriel_laddel: blood transfusion from young mice to old is supposed to help the latter iirc
asciilifeform: the 'let's copy gut bacteria of tribe x' thing is then reminiscent of the early days of blood transfusion, when it was tried as a crackpot cure for just about everything.
mircea_popescu: it's ~the equivalent of making candida chick scissor with un-candida chick. except obv this'd work the other way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the transplant is re specific problem, c difficile infestation.
mircea_popescu: "sure, but pray ask, do the dogs know too ?"
mircea_popescu: scrawny jew trying to go by gate of large house where huge hounds. they bark him fiercely, he's afraid to pass.