deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/us-third-party-candidates-ad-buy-spotted-in-the-wild/ << Qntra - US Third Party Candidate's Ad Buy Spotted In The Wild
g_l: thestringpuller: thank you though. Much appreciated.
g_l: thestringpuller: being "homeless" in palo alto / atherton / sf / los altos / san jose is not the same thing as in the rest of the country. Am OK, just awful internet and other nonsense.
thestringpuller: no use in roaming the streets
thestringpuller: g_l: Oh yea. If you are in southeast region I can prob fix the homeless problem temporarily.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: fwiw, i've never been anything other than wage cattle << Then yeah. You've been the wrong kind.
g_l: For the record: I totally underestimated the amount of support there was out there for a 100% CL GUI.
asciilifeform: g_l: who is funding the thing ?
BingoBoingo: Doctor heal thyself motherfucker!
asciilifeform: '- You're a great one for the fighting Bill, I know, but you can't fight forever. - I can go down doing it. - And you will. - What did you say? - I said, you're turning you back on the future. - Not our future.'
thestringpuller: ^- and there it is
asciilifeform: 'Bill, deliver these good and fervant folk to the polls. And there will be a handsome price for each vote that goes Tammany's way.' -- http://trilema.com/2016/gangs-of-new-york/#selection-75.2-75.131
g_l: my bitching already took them (people working on CLIM, nyef, jackdaniel, gas2serra, etc) from "clim on the web, on the playstation, ncurses, gtk!" to "alrighty, let's finish CLX first", and they just need a little bit more of a push. Beach in particular, as he controls the funds
asciilifeform: but when g_l writes in that 'let's all bus in voters to the polls in shitsackistan' - i must confess, my ears sadly fall down.
g_l: for the rest of you lispers who have used and like CLIM,
asciilifeform: then - i will certainly try it, and say 'thank you'
g_l: I don't know how you expect to get there without going through a complete CLX backend first.
g_l: If you're not interested in CLIM, don't bother. I'm not here to convince you of its utility.
asciilifeform: g_l: understand that your effort here is having quite the opposite of the intended effect.
g_l: well, I got a (major) donor to pester him and suddenly all the talk of "backends" disappeared.
asciilifeform: and any of the people here would want to get involved with this crock of shit WHY..?
asciilifeform: g_l: why would randos 'pestering' move the thing in any direction ?
g_l: If anyone wants to do something easy and useful: drop into #clim and or #lisp and pester beach (robert strandh) to add bounties for implementing the remaining 38 CLIM forms and solving the last showstopping error.
asciilifeform: ultimately all of the animals on a farm exist for same reason.
asciilifeform: now, perhaps wage bull, rather than chicken, but still livestock.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw, i've never been anything other than wage cattle
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wage worker, whether idiot or grandmaster, is still stuck 'only following orders.' << /me suspects alf is far removed from actual reality of wage cattle herding on the ground.
asciilifeform: and, just as 6 mo. ago, i say that there is not.
asciilifeform: and only for so long as the smoke hangs in the air (when there is in fact a set of keys-that-could-have-signed)
davout: the problem i have with monero is the bloat and uncapped block size, not really the crypto itself
asciilifeform: davout: 'ring signatures' are not the promised 'invisibility cloak', but more of a smoke grenade.
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> depends on if he's a nuclear physicist pretending to be a plumber or vice versa. << More plumbers lay hand on reactor parts than physicists
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox. Just delete the comment boxes and other shit. Small theme so easy to fidn everything you want/need to delete.
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox!
asciilifeform: evil is repelled by determined hands, of actual people, pouring boiling oil every single motherfucking time on rogervers, gavins, AND the horses they ride in on.
asciilifeform: there is no magic light.
asciilifeform: the funniest thing is that it is not!
Framedragger: asciilifeform: trb and mpex don't make themselves easy to be used by everyone. which YES is a great thing. but it's not because an angelic light shines upon them, repelling all evil.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 17:08 asciilifeform: sooooo, who recalls the 'ring signatures' thing? (e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422836 )
asciilifeform: linked thread, at the head of this one.
davout: the linked article?
davout: yeah sure, but that's kind of different from saying 'sucks because roger ver'. ver probably used the bitcoin client before it was set in stone for trb
davout: asciilifeform: if you see a lump of steel covered in flies, you brush the flies off and go use that steel for whatever it is you need steel for, no?
asciilifeform: they aren't flocking to trb, or mpex, etc.
Framedragger: lol "bitcoin jesus". yea well. people flock, it's what they do
asciilifeform: and if that doesn't do the trick, consider when object is covered in a pound of flies, does it remain an open question whether it is good to eat ?
Framedragger: in the *
Framedragger: why the fuck is everything a honeypot to you. the technology is interesting for what it's worth. they're leveraging i2p which is interesting if not unquestionable. iirc fluffypony is the project lead list
asciilifeform: sooooo, who recalls the 'ring signatures' thing? (e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422836 )
asciilifeform: so first i'd get a raw pixel, then - a thing defining a spline inside the glyph, then a glyph, then a character (in the lisp sense), then the routine which produced it..
g_l: yes, there is MAP-OVER-OUTPUT-RECORDS-OVERLAPPING-REGION or some such
asciilifeform: without knowing anything about the output in advance
asciilifeform: sooo, can i, say, traverse from x,y coordinate on the screen, to the entire pyramid of objects which produced the pixel at x,y ?
g_l: (the navigator)
g_l: When fixed one can program entirely in CLIM. I've fixed up the debugger to eval in frame, added a 'reflective apropos'
g_l: The "text ghosting" issue has been fixed. We (finally) have a quality test case for the final error.
g_l: asciilifeform: the second to last post
g_l: The other was that text from one application would show up in another when running many applications.
g_l: You can trigger an error that kills the connection to the X server, forcing you to restart the whole lisp image.
g_l: asciilifeform: I bitched about the two showstopping errors and gas2serra stepped in and solved the first, and is in the process of solving the second.
asciilifeform: and, in so far as i can see, all of the things that set me to barf in the past - are still there.
asciilifeform: more to the point, i would like to learn what it is that g_l did to clim, and why it had to be done
g_l: If you don't want the font engine crap, make a new font engine. This is very much doable by a single man.
asciilifeform: or do we now arbitrarily get to cut a problem down to where all of the actual moving parts are somehow 'elsewhere' ?
asciilifeform: g_l: really now, fits in head, incl. the font engine crap etc. ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 14:01 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the original issue, what exactly is supposed to protect gabriel's present infatuation from being applebaum'd in the arbitrary future ?
g_l: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531840 < CLIM fits-in-head, and the final showstopping error (X11 related crap) has been reduced to a simple test case, and is in the process of being solved.
trinque: but having said that, LAMP should not be idly tossed aside. it has seen the world.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 13:53 mircea_popescu: ah trinque was also on lisp huh. there is that.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531833 << there are two orthogonal items here. one is the sanity of the language, which begets the brevity Framedragger observed in my code. the second is whether the implementation of that language has been *used* widely enough to expose it to the great filter.
asciilifeform: the flip side is that you have literally seconds to make the decision re what do do about the fire.
asciilifeform: there were instructions for various scenarios of fire, perma-affixed to the walls, consoles, etc. in various spots around the ship.
mircea_popescu: "we close the door on it." "AA would sink again!"
asciilifeform: (compartments, naturally, existed, as they still do on any war ship)
asciilifeform: the main hatchways.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i toured a ww2 submarine museum-ship, i learned that on board there were steel plates, with matching holes, to bolt to the hatchways when doing a planned dive, in case the hatches leak. somehow i find it hard to picture modern american sailors doing any such thing. osha would have a fit.
mod6: i sure as hell didn't wanna have to go back there though for lack of a "good sample".
mod6: so, then she gave me 20% more.
mod6: anyway, she seemed at least smart enough to take the sample and perscibe some antibiotics.
mod6: she took this blood sample from a "spider bite" of some sort on my hip, dropped it on the floor.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 15:24 mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531916 << to briefly revisit subj, i would happily buy a ticket to visit the planet where there are actual engineers, doctors, etc.
asciilifeform: hm. port, then.
mircea_popescu: why ? i'm not that great a fan of the sea.
asciilifeform: well for that matter i have trouble picturing a mircea_popescu circa 1700 anywhere other than on proper pirate ~ship~
asciilifeform: while the fun lasted - yes.
mircea_popescu: nah, they had ports throughout - the indian ocean for the portuguese ; the atlantic for the english.
asciilifeform: (e.g., actual pirates, had considerable problem recruiting and keeping medic. to the point that it became sop to capture one and let him go immediately when replacement is found.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as ridiculous as it sounds, it's true. the world's upside down, i will not trust an "honest man" because, simply put, http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:256/to:256#256
mircea_popescu: "oh but if i had a better car then definitely gf", sayz elliot. and i'm sure he's right hurr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so. etherape.
asciilifeform: the 'real deals' live, largely, in imagination, now.
mircea_popescu: heh. wait till you get into the "i'm an webentrepreneurdesignmarketing" like pim kim what's her face.
asciilifeform: dunno that industrial 'civilization' contains much else besides whores and their patrons.
mircea_popescu: some whores who knew they were whores, and some whores who wasted their life pretending they aren't whores.
mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!"
mircea_popescu: well, there's also no rush.
mircea_popescu: the experience is, of course, massively beneficial. moreover, it's also the only way.
mircea_popescu: history of china throughout the 1900s is exactly this : came out of ghetto, of own volition, and offered self.
mircea_popescu: let's read together from http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/ : "many of the most beautiful Jewesses adults and adolescents, some already naked and others in various states of undress came out of the ghetto ~on their own volition~ and ~~~offered themselves~~~."
mircea_popescu: no, more in the sense of "now they'll either wear suits or come up with complicated arguments as to why they aren't, because either way they very deeply care".
asciilifeform: conquest in the 'now they'll work all day for half a bowl of rice and an opium cig' sense ?
asciilifeform: which, then
asciilifeform: conquest in the old 'rape'n'pillage' sense may be good clean fun, but no longer economically +ev.
mircea_popescu: these aren't cancellable.
asciilifeform: gcd still works because - fortunately - nobody cancelled, yet, the integers.
mircea_popescu: which is why the guy gives the girl money in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/ but he doesn't pay cristiana in http://trilema.com/2016/il-magnifico-cornuto/
asciilifeform: and modern 'rich people' are, largely, dressed-up counterfeiters and their chums.
asciilifeform: i.e. modern usd is not the pound sterling of 1700.
mircea_popescu: this model is built on some axioms. one of which is "dumb people". not smart people. the moment you turn around and try to apply it to engineers you plainly demonstrate you have absolutely no connection to the people who come up with this, but merely cargo cultist, following motions.
mircea_popescu: and hence all the "morals" debate of 1600s and 1700s.
mircea_popescu: this is the whole premise of capitalism : dear retard, don;'t listen to what the priest says to do ; but listen to what the rich guy says to do.
mircea_popescu: now then. giving intelligent people a tool to break idiots from the social fold (ie, money) results in all sorts of minimums off the wealth-curve (very much like the schroedinger equation, this) being cut off, resulting in more money, resulting in more ships, resulting in conquering china.
mircea_popescu: find a much better blueprint in circumscribed circumstances than the heuristic would provide (the circumstance has to always be limited because otherwise complexity explosion - which yields the principal problem of capitalism, ie disintergration (as the term of art)).
mircea_popescu: the whole capitalism / industrialism model works on the following principle : idiots (by which we mean virtually everyone) are overwhelmed by the complexity of reality, and so resort to societal heuristics. such as you know, "religion", or else "all girls" agreeing that sucking cock is gross in 9th grade and that only farmhands and mongoloids wouldn't do it in 12th grade. these heuristics are weak, and an intelligent guy can
mircea_popescu: it only exists because of jwz training of smart kids, making them want to "cleave" brains and responsibility.
mircea_popescu: look, it's not my fault that a) they misapplied the model and b) you bought into it.
asciilifeform: yeah yeah on mircea_popescu's planet they dun have this, all smart folks sit in recliners and get hand-fed grapes by harembots while idiots labour
asciilifeform: wage worker, whether idiot or grandmaster, is still stuck 'only following orders.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't trust his decision. that's the point : under 110 or so, you are well advised to not even think about making these sorts of calls.
asciilifeform: the main problem with him is that he is not free to decide that the ~job per se~ is braindamaged
asciilifeform: incidentally the traditional interpretation -- 'wage slave will exam-optimize and do the bare minimal job' is imho woefully incomplete:
asciilifeform: saying originally referred to the comparatively laughable output of wage slaves, vs folk who do ~same thing out of actual interest
mircea_popescu: that's the other problem there. motivation of random retard - from fear, firecracker, from interest, nuke. when you go above 95 on the iq scale, what the everloving fuck are you going to put in your firecracker even.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i going to be afraid of.
asciilifeform: 'motivation from fear is a firecracker, from interest - a nuke' as the americans used to say
mircea_popescu: and if we count those hours at the 100k estimate, tmsr did more for increasing worldwide productivity than feminism.
mircea_popescu: in contrast, for the past SIX FUCKING YEARS i've been pulling 100 hour weeks like nobody's business.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it ever took me more than a few days to pay for a month of costa rica or whatever, and this if i was particularly persuaded by the "don't eat from capitals" balabusta angle that month.
asciilifeform: same reason, really, why slave labourer in birkenau would fuck off at the conveyor whenever he could.
mircea_popescu: i have just about 0 interest in working for any of the various cans of usg soup. pre tmsr, i actually didn't work much if at all, and in retrospect i understand it's for this exact reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see it pretty much the same way.
mircea_popescu: (pro tip, if your idea is "but mp, tor was actually built by nsa, this thing is just built by some random poor people" you lose at life. what the fuck, the socialists observe propriety lines now ? the whole world was made by their hunchback of a god and gave to them as a gift dontchaknow.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the original issue, what exactly is supposed to protect gabriel's present infatuation from being applebaum'd in the arbitrary future ?
asciilifeform: iirc he recently began to rewrite the whole thing. for much the same reason that i had to rewrite phuctor earlier this year.
mircea_popescu: "the Mist plateau is famous for its thick fogs and beautiful women"... wouldn't you expect this not to be the case ?
asciilifeform: (he wrote a cl vtron and possibly other items)
asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes also had something, but it is not firing on the battlefield atm afaik.
mircea_popescu: ah trinque was also on lisp huh. there is that.
asciilifeform: well, to date experience consists of phf, who uses the buggy cmucl for some peculiar sentimental reason; and of trinque, whose shit appears to work ~100% of the time.
mircea_popescu: a sharp knife will do that, yes. the cursed sword of japan also.
asciilifeform: sorta how 'colt led cowboys to their graves'
mircea_popescu: the republican experience with lisp to date is very sorry indeed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness : common lisp has managed to shackle an otherwise very intelligent, competent fellow to the position he scored so bad on his tests he got flunked. this is no small performance, seeing how universally reviled and properly bad solutions do not have the sort of problem.
Framedragger: ahh. thanks for the picture. guess you're right
mircea_popescu: incidentally, you know that's how they get wet, right ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you're probably right. problem is, site may need to be expanded later, and i hate re-doing work. but, you're probably right, in the end...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform THEY HAVE UNIVERSAL DOMAIN
asciilifeform: what i meant was, mircea_popescu's observations about service industries and chumps are entirely, afaik, uncontroversially true, but i dun see how they connect to poor old gabriel_laddel's thing
mircea_popescu: wp theme is good spcifically if you want the same thing over many pages, comment box, post box etc.
Framedragger: OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book?
asciilifeform: well until one properly boltzmanns and connected heat and motion rigorously, they are 'unconnected' for any useful purpose.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "unconnected" even mean, sovereign from physics laws ?
mircea_popescu: dude... do you bring the same arguments re thermodynamics ? "yeah, heat so and so, but this is unconnected"
asciilifeform: (or, did he take another's ?)
mircea_popescu: what, you think the subject is special ?
mircea_popescu: the eternal male fantasy of the "free sex", "hook-up", whatever. this is how they use you to build the pyramids, you realise.
asciilifeform: at any rate i have nfi what he charges. but the pitch looked like an ordinary plumbing ad.
mircea_popescu: "if you're not the customer you're the product" "oh yeah, i understand that now" "no you don't" "o look, i hadn't understood it". either you pay, or else you're getting married. these are the options. stop confusing yourself.
asciilifeform: also who the hell puts a price on a ???.
asciilifeform: rather than, say, 'it'll be 10btc/hr and i have nfi how long will take'
mircea_popescu: i can't possibly comprehend why simple logic is so hard in practical application, but. unless he says "gimme 20 btc", what he says is "marry me". there are no possible, understand ~possible~ exceptions to this.
mircea_popescu: again : it's either x or non x. did he offer x ?
asciilifeform: where did he offer a 'marriage' in the 'we'll do... for all time' sense ?
mircea_popescu: THEY PAID.
mircea_popescu: everywhere. do you understand words ? they have meanings. you do not get to alter that, change domains, anything. everywhere means absolutely and without exception everywhere.
mircea_popescu: if it's "ill give you 20 btc", then that's your cap. if it's "we'll do..." then you're lost.
asciilifeform: i meant in the software deal
asciilifeform: where's the unbounded exposure ?
mircea_popescu: the notion of acquiring for free unbounded exposure to some group of online retards is mindboggling.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as a business strategy thing : throwing away 20k to see maybe a group of these "intelligent" retarded kids can get their shit together or not is one thing. oyu may do it or not, but if you do it it's because there's a definite cap on your exposure. even so - it'll be rare.
asciilifeform: by, presumably (i cannot support or undermine his claim, other than perhaps to point out that his 'business' appears to leave him homeless) studying ancient code and making sense thereof
mircea_popescu: it's useful in that it puts in stark contrast the business-idiocy of the whole tower.
asciilifeform: it isn't as if gabriel_laddel has to buy the clim from shanghai and bring it over by boat
mircea_popescu: the famous "no pirate exposure" pirate-era scams were in fact pirate whitelabels, to allow people to pretend etc.
mircea_popescu: ie, what supermarkets do with those "supermarket brand" items ; or what everyone on the internet does with their "expertise" etc.
asciilifeform: do i understand the term correctly ? whitelabel is something one does with a turnkey (e.g., air compressor) item
mircea_popescu: so how is this different from "in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?"
mircea_popescu: ok and then i call gabriel laddel ?
asciilifeform: nah, in the sense that someone, somewhere, would 'hey i need a climization of proggy, who shall i call...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, so like, "electric car recharging" ? in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?
mircea_popescu: the odds of mistaking friend and foe to quite the degree should be evidently dismal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i parsed the sentence in same way at first
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:158/to:158#158 << it's not clear to me what "clim support" does for a website ; i am certainly not going to expend marketing resources on some item i don't own. this last bit is particularly pernicious, incidentally - is this clim thing even breaking the law ? why the fuck am i supposed to confuse a bunch of usg-tools for my own men ?
gabriel_laddel: The tardstalks who put the "commercial support" section on the McCLIM website at the very end of a page for developers (lol: https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/involve) will probably take several months to organize. They don't english very well, and someone who does will have quite the advantage.
gabriel_laddel: If anyone wants to be WAY ahead of the curve, now would be the time to update your websites stating that you offer CLIM support / build CLIM programs aor start a marketing campaign.
gabriel_laddel: This leaves 38 forms to be implemented, many of which are simply sitting in the (crappy) franz implementation
gabriel_laddel: jackdaniel just submitted a working hack around the last showstopping McCLIM bug.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 05:16 mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method.
Framedragger: restarting machine which does the logging to double-check that things reconnect in case of power failure etc., too.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and i'll implement these things even if phf's bot becomes more reliable or w/e, because, decentralization!1
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:606/to:606#606 << something like this? (default font, i'm not a fan of blitzy web69.0 fonts, either). i'll have some time to write the link citation part for the bot, as well as search, too. won't be today though
mod6: thought there was something serious to the pH of the tomato sauce that would etch? the platters somewhat.
mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method.
mircea_popescu: to clarify mod6 : the boiling in tomato juice is a joke/throwback to the old days, when this was the way to dispose of flexible disks (esp the 5 inch ones), where the magnetic zone stands on some cheapo plastic. hard drives haven't used that style of platter for many years now, it's usually doped glass these days. boiling that doesn't do much of anything, but you can just crack the platters with a hammer/wrench whatever.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch << Give more time with the heat.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron who's the pretty girl ?
trinque: it's not the transfer rate limit; it's whether connection stays open longer than ping/pong maybe.
mircea_popescu: laugh all you want at the lamp shitstack, but you can't take down qtra via wget
asciilifeform: apparently phf is running the thing not only on cmucl, but on 486..?
mircea_popescu: and in other high performance engine news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzydthWKyq1qdleaio1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: "Earlier in the week I had taken screenshots of our Trello task board (Jessica was changing it around to make it look like I did nothing)" <<< ahahaha fucking idiot kids. "start-up", puts the motherloade of confidential/business matter on rando social media site. back at reality ranch, do that and you're fired, and you have to hire a lawyer. but in california idiot parade, they think it's about as standard as bottled water.
trinque: mod6: yeah, that's why I stopped the presses for it
mod6: then blow torched 'em.
mircea_popescu: bonus points, what got her mind blown wasn't the team of dorks with nary a clue, but that "no one had a whiteboard session". cuz gotta be chinese, what.
mircea_popescu: in other mainstream media news, "Join the great illuminati fatality cult today, I am agent Smith,A fully Agent of this fatality,i"
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:6/to:6#6 << seems these things are periodic enough. somehow people just dun wanna get suspicious of transactions in bezzlechain.
mircea_popescu: "transactions in blockchain currency" lmao. yaya tryin' really hard over there, i get it, i get it.
pete_dushenski: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*AGKyR8YsQRwQ7st0G1QmTg.jpeg << in other middle easterery, i give you nassim taleb at age 21. looks like 37 tbh.
pete_dushenski: the nerds are catching on.
pete_dushenski: https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/29/dead-or-alive-vr-is-basically-sexual-assault-the-game/ << in other glories, "Apparently, 'no means no' doesn't apply to virtual reality.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: last point (for now): if you skim the comments you'll also notice the softening of libtard revulsion to wealth and an acceptance of their lowly station in life. before our very eyes we're seeing an increased appreciation for the 'my mother isn't your mother' reality. the libtard dream of 'every trainflake can do anything' is dissolving in broad daylight. it's pretty glorious.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: furthermore, 1/4 of net worth (net inheritance) on suits, shades, and whips is a poboy move if ever there was one. tis tres gauche given the kid's apparent class position.
Framedragger: oh hey i think a111 resynced the missing log from today
pete_dushenski: namely in that even if it's an investment for ~you~, you also recognise that the market probably doesn't agree with your sentiment, nor could it, nor do you care if it does.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski went to argentina and drank the water, or wut
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: other points of linked m3icle: example of 'assets' into which 'great divestment' was beneficiary (others: ru bonds?), and also eg of btc sale beyond 'us marshalls' fraud - more than just using usgpuppet to move coinz from a-->b in exchange for ~chance~ at lizardposting
asciilifeform: i have nfi re elsewhere, but here in the land of the phreeee, if you have a car and it is seen on public streets, there will be tax questions
asciilifeform: had a buncha x, traded them for a y. big fat deal.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i read the linked piece and do not understand what was interesting. kakobrekla also bought a car with btc.
pete_dushenski: trinque: 'da beach' was cr in my head. you back from there ?
pete_dushenski: "Whirlpool says it will expand the program next year to at least 20 additional schools, including one in Baltimore and one in Nashville. Over 300 schools have expressed interest in the program.
pete_dushenski: "It turned out that when students didn’t have clean clothes, they often stayed home from school out of embarrassment. "
pete_dushenski: http://www.citylab.com/cityfixer/2016/08/school-attendance-washing-machines/496649/ << in other no es un pais pobre news.
pete_dushenski: "Michael, the CEO, introduced himself as the owner of a successful international mining business group, a millionaire investor, and a former JPMorgan analyst." << milliONEaire. the pic's on lastnight.com or whatever that was
asciilifeform: n weighed the pros and cons and decided it was worth it. Then he took the time to Photoshop in each of his 17 employees’ names ...'
asciilifeform: 'What you are seeing is a Photoshopped Google search image that was posed as a real Wells Fargo wire transfer sent to 17 employees via email by the CEO. ... Whoever photoshopped these documents has the intelligence of a 5th grader, but even worse is the person who thought this was a good idea. Think about it. The scam artist sat there and concocted this in his head instead of telling us the truth that the money wasn’t there. He the
asciilifeform: and various other wtf's.