asciilifeform: likewise 'my inner circle knows what the true J' is' is not solving same problem as 'everyone who knew Kpublic can reliably learn true J' ' which in the case of serious 'for the ages' signatures, e.g., vtronics, you actually ~do~ want
mircea_popescu: because of the whole "array of keys" thing, it'd actually allow jumping over dead rsa
asciilifeform: gossipd, in all proposed variants, relies on numbertheoretical crypto
mircea_popescu: the correct pill to all of this being, of course, gossipd.
mircea_popescu: which is why we HAVE both of these.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of this, i'm affraid.
mircea_popescu: in general "collapsed cryptosystem" reduces one to a "either you have time-order and single-message or else you restart from scratch".
asciilifeform: which is ~why~ i had the multiple steps.
asciilifeform: you are open to mitm in the act of deedbotting.
mircea_popescu: this however is a necessary assumption (seen in t1 t2 etc) and not escapable in the current paradigm.
mircea_popescu: this system presumes there's such a thing as ordering of events.
asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu reeeeeally loves the repudiability thing, but you gotta be careful not to make a cannon that shoots in ALL directions simultaneously. someone has to get privileged knowledge of the true J' or you are cryptodead.
mircea_popescu: J.sign("Here's the laydown : 1. rsa got fucked, this is the process to exrtract privkey from pubkey ; 2. message so-and-so on deedbot was creating by so-hashing this salt and this pubkey ; 3. this here key J was created by using cryptoisystem ? with rng = privkey.K, which guarantees i am the one that made it ; 4. please use this here J' in future")
asciilifeform: outside of buttsex room, there is no such thing as a 'one message' that cannot be mitm'd.
asciilifeform: recall, if rsa died, mircea_popescu cannot simply pgp the J' to his current circle of friends.
asciilifeform: and if you posit the otp (or some other way, perhaps through buttsex, for him to give the True J' to the intended recipients) it turns into my algo.
mircea_popescu: can just go in the same message.
asciilifeform: but otherwise quite useless.
asciilifeform: this'd be handy if mircea_popescu had otp set up in advance with the people he intends to give the actual J' to
asciilifeform: which in the given algo, it is.
asciilifeform: anyone can make their own J'
mircea_popescu: i don't. the point is to prove K-J continuity , not to retain sole control of J
asciilifeform: how does mircea_popescu retain sole knowledge of the private key of J ?
mircea_popescu: well no, i just publish the fingerprint. as per t2 = rsa broken, it then follows one can extract privkey.K from K
asciilifeform: so you published both halves of the k keypair, correct ?
mircea_popescu: then at t2+epsilon when i publish k you extract privkey.K from it and check that J was made by create-key(privkey.K_
asciilifeform: i have the deedbotted hash(salt+pubkey.K) to work with
asciilifeform: ok, can haz algo? i found a string J, which is a public key for an asymmetric cryptosystem, that purports to belong to mircea_popescu, and published after the rsacalypse. what do i do with it.
mircea_popescu: and if it further has a create-key() which seems more dubious, but is it allowable ?
asciilifeform: and we want the algo specifically not to depend on how Jsystem works.
asciilifeform: it is just a string of bits, for the purposes of this gedankenexperiment.
asciilifeform: recall, we don't know anything about the cryptosystem J is a pubkey for.
asciilifeform: i can use to determine, for some input J, whether it belongs to the fella who has priv.K.
asciilifeform: ah in this case with the usual meaning of deedbot, 'sign with wot key'
mircea_popescu: which is why yours and this are equivalent (they depend on the strength of has function)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but he has to also break the salted hash
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's the lethal boojum: enemy knows privkey.K at t2 and if he can get to his keyboard before you get to yours, you're dead
shinohai: !~weather
mircea_popescu: this doesn't matter so much, future cryptosystem will be made on the basis of rng ; rng can work with pubkey as entropy source.
shinohai: !~weather
trinque: oh boy, here comes the tornado
trinque: I'm doing the paste-import thing. patience rAISellers
asciilifeform: perhaps this is obvious from my description, but i have learned that it sometimes helps to restate the obvious.
asciilifeform: which is why for such a scheme to work, it would have to be agreed-upon in advance by the participants.
asciilifeform: but these are to be rejected by the verifier if the latter can locate an earlier Ksign(H(S)).
asciilifeform: if K is broken publicly, or privately by the enemy, any time ~after~ T, the breaker (or anyone who learns the privkey) can try to endeedbot his own Ksign(H(S)) for his own S
asciilifeform: note, J can even be another pgp/rsa key, if you are insuring against merely a 'key costs $100M and takes 5years to break' scenario, rather than catastrophic rsacalypse
asciilifeform: at time T1, when i wish to invoke the continuity, i :
asciilifeform: but i mention lamport specifically because it does not rely on number-theoretical conjecture (on the other hand, hashing relies on ????????? for hardness...)
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, there may be merit in deedbotting a lamport-style one-shot public key for the event of an 'asteroid' (serious number-theoretic breakthrough, or the like)
asciilifeform: subjectivity is a bitch like that. e.g. to 5yo being 'grounded' for month is rather like the idea of year in jail for a 50yo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe. somehow subjectively this is never perceived the same way.
asciilifeform: 14yo still has the nude classmates to take new photos of.
mircea_popescu: rAISellers but did you send it to the sks servers ?
asciilifeform: 'better' in the sense that it is better to have one's hdd and backups burn down when you're 14 y.o. than when you're 60.
mircea_popescu: there are no absolutes here. better and worse are entirely undefined.
asciilifeform: the focus oughta be on avoiding being in said position to begin with.
asciilifeform: there is not, and imho cannot be, a pleasant endgame for dude who gets his wot key publicly popped.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, pretend not to notice, see who tries to scam you ? eat their babies for desert ?
asciilifeform: they are, by any reasonable logic, 'dead' already. just need burial.
asciilifeform: well this is perhaps the wrong question.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, mutual masturbation with phuctor not a bad idea, if it can be done somehow so it doesn't make the ensemble more friable.
trinque: the thing's going through a major cleaving process, nearly done
trinque: asciilifeform: actually I could fart them over to you as I receive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole thing was centered around "third and above degree effects, such as the social behaviour of "war""
mircea_popescu: can come in handy, if you're for instance repressing men-talking-about-women-and-society-their-own-way.
mircea_popescu: PeterL word. you can also induce them through masturbation ; and the process can result in a slight increase in amniotic fluid.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 04:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone (of the married with children contingent) know what braxton hicks contractions are ?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-27#1548932 << braxton hicks are a pre-labor contractions that are painful and annoying to the woman, can start up to a couple months before actual labor, sort of an on-again, off-again random contraction at various intervals (contrast with actual contractions which come at a steady rate and build in intensity)
mircea_popescu: so you'd have expected them to ; romania was an ally after all ; and they did hit the oilfields.
mircea_popescu: however - the easy access petroleum, as well as copper, iron etc was hit first.
asciilifeform: 'rich fields' only became interesting when the demand shot up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this theory is altogether dubious because one of the richest u fields in all of europe was in romania, cvasi-native u-in-quartz deposits. which went unbothered until the 50s, when the soviets dug them up.
asciilifeform: and that much of the squid ink we see on subj, then and now, is to obscure the how, who, and what.
asciilifeform: ftr, my own digs led me to the hypothesis that germany had, contrary to american official legend, a considerably cheaper method of refining U than the idiot calutron, as early as '43
asciilifeform: since it was not obvious, i will point out, 'nazi bell' is a ~proverbial~ object, with some basis in factual history, sorta like the cross of jizzus etc.
mircea_popescu: so it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible if the nazis had an early, low efficiency, fusor-like thing ; which would have been no larger than a doberman ; and so isn't related to either some random polish dude's fantasies of "my village is special - look, that mountainside, is where thor sat down!" or whatever argentina landing bills.
mircea_popescu: how stupid are these nazis again ?
mircea_popescu: ugh. so 5 out of 7 people who made it accidentally looked down the barrel ?
asciilifeform: through the business end ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform any idea why it would be that fucking big ? you don't really gain much by making the outer cage 3 meters wide.
asciilifeform: el dorados were moar fun when you could still hide'em in unpainted section of the map.
mircea_popescu: especially given that it REALLY helps the story, "oh, last summer i went to this secret palace where all the girls are 19 and spend the whole day nude. unfortunately they all died. curse of the nudist palace."
mircea_popescu: im sure the journalist had a bunch of girlfriends "that died" back when he was 13.
asciilifeform: the reason i regard the matter of the bell interesting at all, is that the very same disinfo tactics are in use by modern usg.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem likely the device they might have built would have killed much of anyone ; moreover the story of "fatalties" is how pubescent males always tend to lend a shrowd of cool to their fantasious fabrications.
mircea_popescu: well sure, but there's a difference between the Vs, which actually did land in london, and in abundance bordering on public nuisance
asciilifeform: it does not however follow that german physics was all vapourware. it was not - turned into the engineering works of the 50s.
asciilifeform: fwiw, armchair archaeology of german physics is complicated by the fact that in '45 everyone who was anyone in that wot was jumping out of his shirt to market himself to the americans with fanciful legend
mircea_popescu: now, if they managed to source a megawatt, which seems dubious, and if they managed to get the usual 10^5 power loss, which seems also dubious, even if we grant they had the concept 30 years early, then it follows that they might have made 100 watt worth of neutron source.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible, seeing how eg tesla was dicking around with high electrostatic potentials for his principal entertainment.
asciilifeform: neither gives you a directed beam.
asciilifeform: other is farnsworth's.
asciilifeform: one is the accelerator
asciilifeform: in point of fact there are two (not counting the small kind you can make on your desk right now out of a smoke detector and beryllium sheet) in commercial use
mircea_popescu: look. what source of neutrons do you have in mind other than a linear accelerator ?
asciilifeform: forget the pole !
mircea_popescu: also, the effects described aren't quite what neutron beams do.
mircea_popescu: so which part of the nonsense is part of your accepted reconstruction ? i don't imagine sponeaneous margerinization of plant matter for a 150 to 200 m radius makes it in?
asciilifeform: at any rate, it does not stretch the bounds of the plausible that germany had a clumsy, bulky neutron source.
asciilifeform: if he'd mentioned those, mircea_popescu would see it for the redmercury sprayjob it was.
mircea_popescu: literally, the angel moroni showed him some sikrit documents ?
mircea_popescu: well, the origin is a single report from a pole (ie, nato) who is a literal re-enaction of historical mormon guy.
asciilifeform: (granted we dun have the actual facts, beyond a landing manifest from buenos aires in '45 where germans unloaded ~something massive~ from a 6-engined monster junkers. but the 'red mercury', 'alien corpses', etc. are what the disinfo folk spray onto anything they dun want in the literature.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh you're looking at the nato snow job
mircea_popescu: the humanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that glocke bs is something else. seriously, rando pole came up with some nutty shit in 2000 and the murican joseph smiths ran with it ?
phf: (it's possible the message is missing for other reasons though, that's on august 27th, i.e. the day when i left for burn and btcbase was being spammed to oblivion)
phf: btcbase actually parses ACTION messages and turns the record into message-self
phf: well, if Framedragger is still parsing the znc logs, then znc does it for you. it'll be <foo> blah, or * foo blah or somesuch
phf: so there's at least two bugs happening here :) somehow it's missing from btcbase and Framedragger's znc (or is it the python bot) is leaking ACTION marks
mircea_popescu: ohv, possibly the world's shittiest host in terms of all the spam/abuse/assorted crap they push out.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i see ACTION with the first glyph rendered as 0001
asciilifeform: in other noose, https://archive.is/cgpZD >> 'This botnet with 145607 cameras/dvr (1-30Mbps per IP) is able to send >1.5Tbps DDoS. Type: tcp/ack, tcp/ack+psh, tcp/syn.'
asciilifeform: there, now it is in both logs, if only like this...
scriba: slugs, shaped like various animals, e.g., pig, out of a tank, and by the choice mircea_p
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [13:14:42] <asciilifeform> ACTION woke up from dream where we had 4th conf. this time, at mircea_popescu's house, which turned out to be a gigantic repurposed office park, wunderwaffen in every room, even the nazi 'Glocke' neutron generator; we sat in a great hall and drank mead and thanked odin for the gift of valour; then went to the tank room and each pulled gigantic sea
thestringpuller: oh nice! so just chillin' for now? a break is good every now and then.
jhvh1: thestringpuller: jurov was last seen in #trilema 2 days, 18 hours, 3 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <jurov> phf: zero width is prolly okay, negative-width-joiner would be illegal
th3nolo: for the advice
BingoBoingo: And type the string into your chatbox: !~ty
BingoBoingo: If you wait patiently another peer will be with you shortly. IRC is contrary to popular misconceptions a slow medium, but within 24 hours you should recieve a reply so direct your inqueries.
BingoBoingo: And remember that faith without works (for the Republic) is dead.
BingoBoingo: Also buy a plant. If after one year the plant is thriving you may buy a dog. If after one year it is thriving you may think about starting a srs bsns.
BingoBoingo: th3nolo: Many have tried to find and easier, softer way, but they could not. With all the earnestness at you command register a GPG key and welcome to the future.
jhvh1: 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
BingoBoingo: Well that complicate things. I'm only at step 3. There's still six more steps before I can make amends for not knowing you existed.
mircea_popescu: dude if the company can't afford to ferry some women to the designated fuckbeach it should be rolled up anyway.
mircea_popescu: seriously now. what fucking trite boring nitwits are these ?
BingoBoingo: Still people suck at evaluating risk and severity. People get all panicked because there's a wee bit of nutsedge in their lawn, it's bruise. At the same time they'll ignore the bermudagrass taking over, and that shit is stage IV lawn cancer.
mircea_popescu: "when he finds out his lead used the company gas card to drive a mini-bus full of whores to Ocean City" dude who the fuck would be upset over this ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, by and large men will fight "for" women. cuz for what the fuck else, aliens ?
mircea_popescu: and now back to the issue : human sexuality is an intertwined ball of yarn, with layer upon layer of complex mechanisms driven over many years by the erosion of evolution. just plain obstetrics holds plenty of mysteries to the average folk (quick, what's cervical effacement ?), and so wide sweeping, far reaching discussions of third and above degree effects, such as the social behaviour of "war" are bound to be pretty nonsens
mircea_popescu: http://preggotummys.tumblr.com/post/111569668432/misshellenroxx-the-other-day-i-was-told-that << companion lolz.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone (of the married with children contingent) know what braxton hicks contractions are ?
trinque: as such ought not be discussed as any sort of cause of the thing.
trinque: this "female violence" theory is only applicable insofar as it describes something women do in the total absence of functioning males
mircea_popescu: and in other "the hand that munches the cookie is connected to a large belly" news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/de646e4c28c48f686900382c2717a82d/tumblr_ndkbbhwY381tgc5huo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: eh, these are murky complex waters. not really within ex boxer's paygrade.
trinque: clearly, given youtube! therefore.
trinque: If one currently looks to YouTube videos, it will become incredibly apparent that women are more aggressive and more violent than man, will fight cops at a higher rate, are more likely to attack men than are men, are more likely to attack women than are men, and are more likely to try and maim a downed opponent than are men. << but then he goes and does that.
BingoBoingo: "But to a woman, to a creature of gossip, the thought that another nation might be listening in on her private conversations, is cause for war! What is even more disturbing is that more women vote than men, a higher proportion of women vote than do men, and that women are far more likely to vote for war than are men." << Moar
mircea_popescu: why the fuck else did anyone ever go to war ?!
BingoBoingo: "This is gossip warfare, going to war in order to have the right to tell other peoples how to live, how to treat their wives, how to manage their economy." << Gold
mircea_popescu: she ain't got a latrine pig's prayer in the latrine, alfie.
mircea_popescu: "america dun need to be made great again because i can pretend the year is still 1980 and reagan's in charge any time i want!"
mircea_popescu: lol racism through "calling women pigs", because totally a) women are a race b) claiming "racism" is how you win at politics c) everyone really cares about your misrepresentations of the hater op's sayings and assorted aphorisms.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [03:01:37] <trinque> nation of cowards going insane because they're facing death like animals, without the ability to reason.
BingoBoingo: Well, now that you are older and wiser, mebbe next time you take you your utility knife and relocate their urinary exit?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-27: [02:54:23] <phf> the phrase can be used, when, for example, representatives of your village have successfully beat up representatives of neighboring village, your favorite football team has won, etc.
trinque: hell, one of them stabbed me in the leg with a pencil one time, so I did what any gentleman would do.
trinque went to a school like that in FL, broke one of their noses, didn't have any problems
trinque: was about to criticize, then saw "Doris"
asciilifeform: at least those of you who partook in the usgola circus.
phf: nah, preventing that is what the antidepressants are for
trinque: phf: I figure the end of these things is basically the aggregate of however many million mental breakdowns.
trinque: nation of cowards going insane because they're facing death like animals, without the ability to reason.
trinque: hundreds of millions of guns, and all it amounts to is blacks burning down their own neighborhood and lawyers from the suburbs shooting up the shopping center my girlfriend was at yesterday buying sewing stuff.
phf: the phrase can be used, when, for example, representatives of your village have successfully beat up representatives of neighboring village, your favorite football team has won, etc.
phf: trinque: ru has a phrase to describe the nature of that debate: "ура наши победили" direct translation is "yaay ours have won!!". specific word choice evokes early soviet propaganda movies, where "ours" were of course the red cavalry, and the phrase would typically be uttered by some country bumpkin recruited for the cause of the revolution.
trinque shall not be watching the next "debate"
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/26/the-thing-libertarians-get-wrong-about-property-rights-or-why-im-not-a-libertarian/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The thing Libertarians get wrong about property rights, or why I’m not a Libertarian.
asciilifeform: is there ddos of both logtrons currently or wat.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548846 << that's what $900/sf buys you in the shriveled heart of bezzlelandia. also, it's really just the gaudy twitter signage mucking up the design. the building is perhaps on the soviet/slabby side, but it's not without its charming details, particularly the entabulatures.
pete_dushenski: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/dana_carney/pdf_My%20position%20on%20power%20poses.pdf << 'power pose' academic recants. pseudoscience was threatening to sink her ship, she jumped aboard life raft at the last possible second. waves of climatologists following suit imminent.
pete_dushenski: then use better tea. green or something.
BingoBoingo: Anyway, after his death it has already been renamed the Rosie Palmer for gendered inequity.
pete_dushenski: except arnie's aa-aproved drink will be with us long after the clintons are but a distant memory. point : arnie.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Eh the gopher has some drink named after him, and the drink isn't cool enough to have booze. The refugee shut people up about the two aspects of Clinton for nearly a day.
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#comment-119248 <--> http://trilema.com/2014/today-is-the-international-day-of-remembering-how-mircea-popescu-is-better-than-me-and-related-observances/
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: next they'll be asking me for my own gasoline. i swear. LIFE IS SO UNFAIR!!1
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/no-but-theres-karma-kramer/ << Trilema - No but there's karma, Kramer!
pete_dushenski is about to pay utility bills for the first time. ever.
pete_dushenski: in more personal news, turns out the local utility landscape is pretty diverse. deregulation twenty years ago and today ~25 power-flowers blossom.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 22:09 BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> in other nooz, rip arnold palmer (golf legend, main jack nicklaus rival) << Eh, his death wasn't that unfair http://qntra.net/2016/09/refugee-death-displaces-electoral-noise-from-us-national-conversation-on-eve-of-debate/
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548790 << because he was old white male ? this is the ultimate unfairness! who cares about another dead spic n' span.
mircea_popescu: they did invent velcro though.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 21:56 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i know. the notion of evil existing because good men do nothing seemed to become popular with the muricans during the objectivism movement attributed to rand
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548787 << ustards also think they invented foreign interventionism, democratic socialism, feminism, and probably shoelaces. what ustards think is au courrant and fresh and spicy and hot and buzzing and trending and new has more to do with their illiteracy and impatience than historical bearing.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it can be practically conveyed just how ghetto these schmucks actually are.
mircea_popescu: the salient points being that "she's only 22", that "she's grown up - before, she'd jump into a bed just as soon as being kicked out of another, but now she even rented her first departamento", that "her ex isn't going to breach the restraining order, and that time when he beat her in the club it was a month after the first such order expired" and finally that her mother "also suffered amorouslyt with a lot of men"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in other lulz, i reviewed over coffee the TWELVE PAGE ad some local tv beauty / whore took out for herself.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, argentina is very... how shall we put this so it respects their soberania... very precociously ejaculatory. for the first ten minutes or so, an encounter with an argentinotard looks like a normal date. after that...
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's the latest and greatest on the ripping apart of the last kirchner?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-26: [19:55:52] <asciilifeform> trinque et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/g2.jpg << 'gizmo2' board booting up the random crummy linux thing that comes with it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160926/#252 << did you take this picture with flashlight under the covers
asciilifeform: what happens then, do i get to take'er home as a pet.
asciilifeform: yeah i have nfi where to get the real.
ben_vulpes: "fuck, buddy, if i ever see the string `PHPSESSID` i /know/ things have gone /completely/ off the rails"
mircea_popescu: you don't understand these things because not a citizen mkay
asciilifeform: greatest seeekrit veepon of the cold wor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are the people who are still (afaik) using motherfucking 512-bit rsa INTERNALLY.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160926/#195 << they should email them exactly like i "email" BingoBoingo qntra submissions. wtf already, rsa or you're not a bank.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-26: [18:02:46] <asciilifeform> 'When executing a program via the SELinux sandbox, the nonpriv session can escape to the parent session by using the TIOCSTI ioctl to push characters into the terminal's input buffer, allowing an attacker to escape the sandbox.'
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> in other nooz, rip arnold palmer (golf legend, main jack nicklaus rival) << Eh, his death wasn't that unfair http://qntra.net/2016/09/refugee-death-displaces-electoral-noise-from-us-national-conversation-on-eve-of-debate/
thestringpuller: then again I'm not a philosopher, so don't take my word for it
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i know. the notion of evil existing because good men do nothing seemed to become popular with the muricans during the objectivism movement attributed to rand
asciilifeform: trinque et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/g2.jpg << 'gizmo2' board booting up the random crummy linux thing that comes with it.
pete_dushenski: in other nooz, rip arnold palmer (golf legend, main jack nicklaus rival)
asciilifeform: long before the great schism.
asciilifeform: and all inquiries re the ups'n'downs of private ownership of small jet airplane - straight to mthreat, who (iirc) has a mig.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 00:46 asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
asciilifeform: oh and if you like idapro and got a box with it, you can put the probe on your lan (it'll dhcp) and remote-gdb to it.
asciilifeform: trinque: unrelatedly, i forgot to mention in my piece re smartprobe, that you gotta power cycle it after it takes the pill, before it is cured.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a similar, though not as gut-bustingly funny piece on c++.
PeterL: http://bit.csc.lsu.edu/~gb/csc4101/Reading/gigo-1997-04.html << for asciilifeform, the true story behind ada
pete_dushenski: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/active-shooter-situation-sends-cops-houston-strip-mall-n654281 << shooter was lawyer, drove porsche boxster. was 'living the dream' but still 'in hell while everyone else is in heaven' apparently.
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/780383676148350976 << virginian police either can't afford to keep their government motors vehicles running, or want a little more, ahem, privacy when dealing with dem coloured folks.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: tested out your new vpatch over the weekend. worked like a charm! << heeey thanks!
pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2016/09/random-idiot-accepts-peoples-time-and-work-idiot-turns-around-and-sells-it-for-politics/#comment-71756 << ha i was also wondering wtf pubkey block was doing there.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548660 << patek philippe was the watchmaker tlp randomly chose from economist advertisement to construct a story about the aspie 14%s that he didn't realise he was so deeply entrenched in, as discussed previously : http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/24/im-too-lazy-and-other-excuses-that-people-say/#comment-50556
a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 16:33 asciilifeform when riding d.c. metro, often saw ads for, e.g., fighter jet. and always wanted to call in and ask for quote. 'whaddayamean it ain't for sale to the public, there was this ad on the Red Line...'
pete_dushenski: mod6: tested out your new vpatch over the weekend. worked like a charm!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-25 13:25 Framedragger: !~later tell pete_dushenski btw could you update the bots directory so that `!$ hello` means (something like) 'Prints "Hello, world!" and uptime of the bot'? (you can /msg scriba help). gracias.
asciilifeform: 'On the BSDs TIOCSTI has been limited to the superuser since the 4.4BSD Lite 2 release in 1995'
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, shortest proof of concept i've yet seen for any of these.
asciilifeform: 'When executing a program via the SELinux sandbox, the nonpriv session can escape to the parent session by using the TIOCSTI ioctl to push characters into the terminal's input buffer, allowing an attacker to escape the sandbox.'
asciilifeform: what, jpeg never happened there ?
mircea_popescu: you should see how contemporaneous egyptian artist renders the female neck and upper back assemblage.
asciilifeform: (not even wholly, as some imagine, a 'seekrit evidence' problem of 'where the fuck am i to get an elephant'. how many of'em could draw a remotely accurate map of the town they live in ??)
asciilifeform: like the proverbial 'medieval elephant' paintings, the resemblance to reality will be a purely coincidental thing.
mircea_popescu: like you know, the "european bsdm castles" are still a thing in the vernacular. and probably always will be.
mircea_popescu: the main problem with the bdsm dorks is that they cultivate this bizarre air of mystery and whatnot. rarely do i actually feel inclined to cut through a thing of theirs.
asciilifeform: but the microwave box - is quite a well-kept secret
asciilifeform: these are amply documented in BingoBoingo's material.
mircea_popescu: for the same money could run research project into "underground silicone clinics".
asciilifeform: (and from scamatronic. i suspect that the item does not actually exist on the bdsm gear market, though some folks will happily take yer money)