asciilifeform: because yes, otherwise the pond scum will go to where the chewing gum is and what remains, looks like slug with salt.
mircea_popescu: they call it "network effects", among the educated stupid, but really what it is - idiocy has no country. it's a thing, a substance, beyond identity.
mircea_popescu: the desire of warsaw pact to "be like in the west" had nothing to do with anything, and most pointedly had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with their pretensions and aspersions at the time (freedom, liberty, blabla). it was EXCLUSIVELY a case of "stupid lazy idiots over there! we wanna go!!1"
mircea_popescu: so : eiother you beat the girls for using facebook, or else you're stuck with facebook. because that's where the stupid is.
mircea_popescu: basically, stupid people are not people in any sense, but simply stupid. and they wish to be with their true brothers and sisters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is very much that the small country isn't swallowed up by the macdonalds. on the contrary : it swallows the macd.
asciilifeform: (incidentally anyone who wants to ask 'would you move there' can stuff the q up his arse. northkr is an ethnostate and quite un-universalizing, the proposition is without any useful meaning.)
asciilifeform: northkr may well be the last 'soviet coldwallet' remaining.
asciilifeform: whether it 'ought to give in', so the koreans can have levi jeans and wriggleys chewing gum, or continue to work 100 hr weeks semi-starved so that they can carry on the parallel civilization experiment and not turn into 59th shit state of usa, keeping company with puerto rico, is a ~value~ call
asciilifeform: as for the 'crayzeee', i'm not convinced that is is possible to keep a small and blockaded country from being swallowed up by the mcdonalds monster without some 'crayzeee.'
asciilifeform: but it isn't there yet.
asciilifeform: it is going there, yes, neither the koreans nor anybody else know how to make molybdenum out of turnips.
asciilifeform: but if your picture of it is based on the ubiquitous southkr/usg crapolade, you would imagine it is a cargo cult pygmy set with straw airplanes.
asciilifeform: but fact is, the koreans built factories, educated engineers, had working hardware, perhaps not first class but quite close.
trinque: they look like backwards villagers that got dosed with SU one day, now to this day say LOOK AM GREAT SOVIET TOO
asciilifeform: granted, i am rather more familiar with western bizarre fetishes than with asian ones.
trinque: certainly not the same level of bizarre sexual fetish
trinque: the west didn't do their particularly weird "beat the 5 year old girls so they prance around like weird trained dogs" did it?
asciilifeform: doesn't keep the 'civilized' west from trying again. ad infinitum.
asciilifeform: so to answer jurov's question, the difference between ru and 'best korea' is that the chaining-to-a-post trick did not work.
asciilifeform: then say 'what a fuckhead, he shit himself.'
asciilifeform: north kr is simply a large-scale version of the thing wonderful civilized americans like to do to prisoners, chain'em up to a post until shits himself.
asciilifeform: i dunno that it is possible to consider it in any sense but the political.
asciilifeform: everything that happens in north kr, that jurov reads about and goes 'eww', is a creation of the west.
asciilifeform: see the wonderful thread currently going on mircea_popescu's www re the crimes of lincoln
asciilifeform: then - stews in own juices.
mircea_popescu: i suspect a lot of the bombing enthusiasm past decade has to do with all that impotent rage bottled 1972-1980
asciilifeform: north kr was never agriculturally rich, it was frozen shit land, and from the very beginning of industry in that godforsaken orc peninsula , was the industrial half of it.
mircea_popescu: hey, most of the infrastructure the us has been bombing all over the middle east past decade was put in place by romania. back when romanian extraction engineering was best in world, and haliburton couldn't compete for contracts, so ceausescu ended up with his own concessions which he serviced with his own boats and refined at midia near constanta.
asciilifeform: then came nato blockade, enforced boycotts.
asciilifeform: there is heavy industrial equipment built in, yes, 'best korea', still in service in good chunk of orc world.
asciilifeform: there may however be such a thing as 'bridge too far'.
mircea_popescu: all abstractions are ultimately compatible. this is required for their existence.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing known in nature as "incompatible abstractions"
asciilifeform: which i thought was plain as daylight in the first thread jurov an' i had on subj.
asciilifeform: otherwise ancient greece - is a snore.
asciilifeform: depends who is 'the soviets'
mircea_popescu: you're thinking of the japanese, mebbe ?
mircea_popescu: also, the soviets were not productive ; not ever.
mircea_popescu: somehow they bought into the delusion that usd is money. and the chinese bought them with sweat. which turns out - is money.
mircea_popescu: modern democracy, like previous democracies, reduce to this, yes. "life is great while burning the furniture for heat - free heat!"
mircea_popescu: moving over to china made the 90s, which were "best ever" and what trump wants to make again.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561511 << incidentally i was in a '5-star' hotel in usa and they had '1-ply' tp. so perhaps saying no to 3000 ton rockets, doesn't magically create tp-for-everybody.
asciilifeform: hence the impression i walked out with.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, various moderns interred there as well.
asciilifeform: and these weren't even mega-rocket-constructors, but engineers/jurists/architects/fencing instructors/etc in distant and forgotten and since-demolished orcland.
asciilifeform: when i went to the recoleta graveyard in mircea_popesculandia , i could not shake the thought that any single one of the folks buried there, when alive, was worth more than all of current-day usa.
mircea_popescu: once that went away, the notion of nation lost any basis.
mircea_popescu: the ~only reason the concept of nation was politically relevant was because of periodicity of (pre-technological, pre-industrial) war.
asciilifeform: particular groups of people, at particular times - quite temporarily - rise above the shitboard.
mircea_popescu: can't distinguish frenchman, german, russian, etc. even in widely variant environment they build the same "plox to cuckold me" mentality.
mircea_popescu: the globalists/socialists/what have you got this much right, that it's ~meaningless to discuss "nations", seeing how people are universally the same pressed shitboard.
asciilifeform: then, they died, what remained, turned to the neurotypical baseline human turd mass, yes.
asciilifeform: and while they were at the helm (everybody, from janitor to rocket constructor) the anglo shits quaked in their boots.
asciilifeform: they were - iron.
asciilifeform: so perhaps theory was red herring.
mircea_popescu: all the su stick produced was a horde of anal children. almost as if humans are all on the same mind, and even if you keep the borders locked and the sticks sticking, idiot ru citizen will mirror idiot eu citizen nevertheless
asciilifeform: that was one of the few things su got ~right~.
mircea_popescu: you know, when they shot a dog in a bushel of wheat into space.
asciilifeform: then! yes.
jurov: phf yes, they eventually learned to produce or trade grain. but anything beyond that was never a certainty
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in that sense the ukraine's been nothing but a famine.
mircea_popescu: phf no, they just didn't have fish at the fish shop ; the meat they didn't have at the meat shop.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one where ro minister of defense was like "lolz, what, you think i ran off to moscow ? these idiots have it worse than we do."
asciilifeform: su had famine at the same time as usa: '30s.
phf: jurov: i was actually curious what kind of "famine" you were referring too. usually they can be named by name, like the stalin and Ukrainians. 80s had shortages, but people weren't starving.
asciilifeform: i still dream today, of what i ate then.
mircea_popescu: jurov yea, if you think the soviets had it rough in the 60s you are factually incorrect.
mircea_popescu: nah, the 60s worked. arguably su was above teh west for that brief period.
phf: also don't forget the 40s
mircea_popescu: also in the 50s, of course, but then again that was mutually shared with the french, the germans, and all other idiots who bombed their shit.
mircea_popescu: phf in the 80s
jurov: when there was soviet union
phf: jurov: when was there "periodic famine" and inability to produce ~basic necessities~?
jurov: please, is it really different from best korea? what are 3000ton rockets for when there's periodic famine and general inability to produce basic necessities?
asciilifeform: people would rather be cockroaches than people, and as soon as anybody bothered to ~ask~ them - it was over.
asciilifeform: pissed away the rockets, but GOT JEANS! and WHOREZ!
asciilifeform: doug hofstadter (english! speaker! incidentally) noted, correctly, that (approx.) 'souls, whether or not they literally exist, come in different sizes.'
asciilifeform: to answer the q in the earlier thread, su was a superior culture (vs the anglos, of any time after isambard brunel died) simply because their cult was culturally superior in effect. su pharaoh orders n1 rocket for his pyramidal glorification. anglo pharaoh orders 1,000,000,001 fupas to be fattened.
asciilifeform: can try to fix it, possibly, mircea_popescu-style, by breeding a wholly different crop of people, but this takes millenia, and nobody alive here and now will live to see the smallest lick of it.
asciilifeform: if they had been +ev - would have stuck around, like maersk liners stick around, but would also be unremarkable, like the liners.
asciilifeform: the 15th c. china of zheng he, had yet other cult object, the mega-fleet (with wooden sailing ships quite comparable in size to today's maersk monsters! )
asciilifeform: *had yet other
asciilifeform: british empire has yet other cult objects: massive (and riotously -ev) railroads in india, say.
asciilifeform: trinque: consider: a 'saturn' and the maersk cargo fleet cost similarly. but they are unlike: 'saturn' is a cult/religious object (in the sense where nobody seriously attempts to calculate its roi) , rather more like the great pyramids.
asciilifeform: or rather, 3000...
trinque: not the name, but it was a mammoth rocket
asciilifeform: su incidentally had a considerably larger item, which is not famous where trinque lives, because it exploded on the launch pad (killing the bulk of the su space command at the time)
asciilifeform: there was a mircea_popescu thread re this
trinque: not to mention a different kind of culture among the wealthy
asciilifeform: it is an absurdity, rather like trying to make a movie to show to just 1 rich d00d.
asciilifeform: this is elementary, and we had the thread.
asciilifeform: while the, e.g., cray1, or smbx lispm, could not be consumerized, and is gone.
phf: some kid pulls up with chrome dipped bugatti rims now i'm thinking it's three in the am i'm walking he in a bm drop top 3 and don't even see me but you gonna believe he saw my gun in 3-D
trinque: in both cases the flow of money involves mass consumers
trinque: there's another scamatronic component, where they are often being rented - say by a rapper - from an agency meant to make him appear rich
asciilifeform: dun work so well, considering that i had nfi that they are connected until now
phf: http://trilema.com/2016/ideological-history-of-the-republic/ and http://trilema.com/2013/the-dilemma-of-fake-money/ both match on real google
ben_vulpes: yes but i wish to know the proverb of "proverbial" proverbialismo
phf: !~google hole through which the night site:trilema.com
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 02:24 asciilifeform: this is 'the hole through which the night walks in', to borrow a mircea_popescuism
trinque: perhaps this is why I hear asciilifeform and phf sound a bit wistful for alt-sov future; at least time to time they horked up a weirdo ekranoplan
trinque: ahaha taught them to be lesbians wtf?
trinque: the guys exist, but the current structure of "wealth" precludes there being a healthy market for their products.
asciilifeform: t: they’re not. I feel like someone robbed me of my birthright, as should anyone else who speaks english but never read the Book of Exeter. I’d tell you to go ask the nuns how they did that, but your lot bought them vibrators and taught them to be lesbians, so there aren’t any left to talk to.'
asciilifeform: 'Consider this: my mom went to an ordinary catholic high school. When she graduated, she knew Latin, French and Anglo-Saxon, as well as integral calculus. Apparently, them nuns who taught her knew something which people have now forgotten about teaching methodology. For what it is worth, she didn’t do much homework either, and her school was quite ordinary. And don’t try to tell me that learning these things are somehow irrelevan
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/soy-and-corn-yields-massive-prices-depressed-further/ << Qntra - Soy And Corn Yields Massive, Prices Depressed Further
asciilifeform: i could've sworn we did the thread...
asciilifeform: pable of it, but that sort of career path isn’t available to them any more.'
asciilifeform: stead of employing one guy for a few days, the budget will get chopped up to a half dozen people, it will take months instead of days, and I won’t get what I want anyway. Sure, they can build things now that they couldn’t have before, but there is something missing in the food chain: the guy who can screw around in the machine shop and build something that works from a pencil sketch. There are guys who want to do that, who are ca
asciilifeform: d me a cryochamber with electrodes and X-ray windows in it for keeping a torr of helium in a UHV system, and he’d go away and build the freaking thing from a piece of aluminum, he’d come to me a few days later, and it would work. There is no guy like that now. Now I have to go through a CAD designer, who will send it to a CAM shop, and the thing will come back with something missing, like no wires to hook up to the electrodes. In
asciilifeform: 'there were these old guys who were there in the glory days. Usually they were uneducated men; working class machinist types of guys who cut their teeth in the Navy. They were capable of building just about anything; these guys were really incredible artists. Not only are these guys dying off without passing on their knowledge to new generations, nobody cares! When I was there, there was this guy Noel Kellog. I could ask Noel to buil
mircea_popescu: yes, the world before america became great was truly a great place.
asciilifeform: up for a house party, because, again, supersonic (maybe hypersonic) flight is super cheap in the 1967 future.'
asciilifeform: ' They had no way of knowing the oil crisis would come, just as they had no way of knowing you’d need to arrive 3 hours early to the airport because of imbecile US foreign policy hubris. Remember you didn’t even need a photo ID to get on a plane until 1999 or so; you could go to the airport with a bundle of cash and fly anywhere you wanted to; just like in 1967. In a later scene in the video, pals from Philippines and Paris show
asciilifeform: https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2016/11/01/the-future-aint-what-it-used-to-be << in related lulz.
ben_vulpes: most recently, the montgomery bumped a lock wall got herself an 18" long crack
ben_vulpes: man the littoral combat ships JUST KEEP BREAKING
BingoBoingo: also thestringpuller if thestring_lab is yours, please rename it because it is cancer that defeats tab autocomplete.
BingoBoingo: SImilarly not seeing it. Perhaps thestringpuller can blog poast.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 17:39 thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: that john blocke fellow copied a bunch of log discussions and qntra articles then made "his own propagandas", whereas it's just plagarized Qntra material repurposed for r/btc consumption.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561340 << none of the linked crud has any resemblance to the l0gz, or qntra, as far as i can tell
mircea_popescu: maybe it's the hangouts you hang out in.
mircea_popescu: i can only shudder in horror at the length of your buttexperimentalist.
ben_vulpes: davout: how are the isles?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this assperiment has been on my todo list since the last time you brought it up
ben_vulpes: "when you kiss another human being, you make a long meat tube with a butthole at each end"
phf: airgap is sort of like cloud, since we know that cloud is 90% air, then connecting over the cloud is effectively airgapping
mircea_popescu: he's evidently put in just the tip lots of times!
ben_vulpes: what do they even
ben_vulpes: > Connecting two air-gapped networks together, over the Internet, without compromising their security.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Who?
thestringpuller: i would blame the parents for telling all the kids "college is how you get a good jerb!"
mircea_popescu: and if it asserts itself too hard it gets the hose again.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: that john blocke fellow copied a bunch of log discussions and qntra articles then made "his own propagandas", whereas it's just plagarized Qntra material repurposed for r/btc consumption.
mircea_popescu: isn't that where they make faatten dasz ?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: On what matter?
trinque: "Our device connects separate networks and will pass any traffic between them."
asciilifeform: soooo somebody linked this turd, https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/575 , and i read the paper to try an' see how the fuck a gizmo that requires you to send bitcoin to folx you don't know can be 'trust-free'. took exactly 30 seconds to read to the point where it relies on 'timelocked' transactions.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: so r/btc has taken to plagarizing qntra and the logs
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561303 << orlol described the process well, imho, imaginarily 'posh country-set parasites 'boosting revenue' by sacking low-rent 'we MADE A HOME HERE!11111' desk parasites, and simultaneously also the expensive r&d folk who 'only contribute to costs'
mircea_popescu: and in other nightlife news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/2750aac3dd38819ad525d5f0a9b5490c/tumblr_nasddvRto81qg7sdjo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: <trinque> See, Qntra totally has modern CSS! << lulz from stylesheet That's been there most of Qntra history by nao
asciilifeform: 'As of 2016, the independently-funded company is staffed by a team of seven, all of whom joined with a security background, with the majority of that experience coming from the US Dept. of Defense.' << i'ma die of lulz nao
mircea_popescu: there's that image of an ape named ballmer that just won't go away already, they're so lame and inept.
BingoBoingo: Still more mobile friendliness added, at least another 27%
mircea_popescu: srsly, the experience of carly "i sunk hp hear me roar" fiorina isn't enough ?
trinque: BingoBoingo: the txn is pooped once per hour; it's up to bitcoin how long it takes to confirm.
BingoBoingo: "Such apocalypse fiction is in effect the yearning of the inauthentic sissy soul of civilized man that his baby-crib existence not be imperiled by a call to masculine action."
BingoBoingo: "The insertion of any Howardian character in the sissy story line of passive collective sacrifice that my eyes were so pornographically subjected to last night would utterly ruin the story. Watch this episode and image Conan or Bran Mak Morn or Solomon Kane in Ricks biblical place and the story of a tormented, kneeling father reeling in mortal helplessness evaporates."
davout: the french malwin
mircea_popescu: certainly the discussion of gossipd needs some updating.
BingoBoingo: Oh, how the deedbutt lags
mircea_popescu: n exist. there's a lot of similarly broken stuff in there, and then there's strange notions i can't readily evaluate. it is also much too long, yet it evidently is too sparsely written in most nodes. do yourself & teh world a favour and rewrite this thing.
mircea_popescu: the concept you're describing is sound, the example you use is utterly idiotic. for one thing "validating" that a video was watched is necessarily a void concept ; for another who even fucking cares if they did. in the path between a and b you've introduced a "simplifying detour" of the format a->moon, moon->b, which is pluriously dysfunctional - there's not even any reason to believe moon exists in any space where a and b ca
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell gabriel_laddel so the thing is - you have to rewrite this. there's a lot of very powerful ideas struggling in the mire of very poor (and often rushed) writing. there's no way out, i can't rewrite it for you. while it's starting to emerge into sense it's not yet at the level of development where it can be productively engaged. take but one simple example : "$computation against $uri validate videos were watched".
mircea_popescu: imagine if they did.
mircea_popescu: hey, we didn't all go to the same kindergarten!
mircea_popescu: there's two ?
mircea_popescu: and in other slits, http://68.media.tumblr.com/6502dca3383d81e3013c8f519a8a473b/tumblr_n60rfysGPg1rlfy18o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: lol the newman quote found its way into g_l's arsstep thingee
mircea_popescu: the one concern is that 5mn simlinks in you'll discover that "oops, we decided X number of simlinks should be enough for everyone fuck you"
asciilifeform: even then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well yes, this'd the 'on top of human fs' scheme suggested in earlier threads
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which : maxsimlinks used to be hardcoded to 40 via param.h for reasons. dunno if still the case)
mircea_popescu: whenever you process a new block, you add the needed simlinks in /txid/etc
mircea_popescu: how about this scheme : you do /bitcoin/blockid/aaaa/bbbb/cccc/dddd/ a total of 16 levels, off the blockid, wherein at the end a block.dat 1mb file is found. you also do /bitcoin/txid/aaaa/bbbb/ etc also 16 levels, the last of which you SIMLINK to the correct block.dat dir
mircea_popescu: the only correct way to do this is to make a binary tree out of txids and save that somehow isn't it
asciilifeform: and the glomming of otherwise separate concerns is one of the things that makes reading trb a reliable headache.
asciilifeform: this thing is long overdue for the cut.
asciilifeform: see the obligatory surgeon's knife thread,
mircea_popescu: very much so. also happens to be the correct approach.
asciilifeform: (at no point do i give a fuck what is in mempool, unless i put it there)
mircea_popescu: it's clear that it needs a message queue / interface with the proggy, but that's about all that's clear.
mircea_popescu: sadly. the main thing that holds back sanevelopment on trb is the fact that whatever you want to discuss everyone starts muttering curses and mashing kbd about the 10bn other things connected.
mircea_popescu: because lo and behold, the mempool of their presence and the blockchain of their past deeds are not the same exact fucking item.
mircea_popescu: the three girls presently in the room have three girls names, but if i have them fuck each other and film the proceedings the filename will be something with a time in it. apparently this doesn't make the walls collapse on my head.
asciilifeform: every time i open a notebook and start in these, i barf upon realizing that there is more of these than of sane design decisions.
mircea_popescu: they're entirely separate concepts, mashed together because idiots think that the way the world appears to them in the moment is the way the world is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, the txid as used in mempool and the txid as used in block is not required to match.
asciilifeform: and if you cannot do 'which block' because impatient and gotta have txid IMMEDIATELY, then 'top block at time of baking' at least
asciilifeform: no shortage of these.
mircea_popescu: reverse ptr for the love of fuck. it's FOUR BYTES OMFG
trinque: doing something non-idiotic with the set of utxos seems unavoidable if you want to use the thing
asciilifeform: that's what the index db is ~for~
mircea_popescu: mod6 that's mroe the log neh ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno that you'd want to make txn files really. they're small, just load their block in memory.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> To the Republic I pose New Header for the gray lady with the rabbit hat. "Qntra - [Fill-this-blank] Of The Most Serene Republic" << Chronicle ?
asciilifeform: the only 'humans' fs that is even remotely up to this task is reiser's.
asciilifeform: and yes they oughta be files.
asciilifeform: but sequential tapes of blox, see the blkcut thread.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what was it, Mainstream News Outlet ? << "Propaganda Mouthpiece"?, Whatever it is this question now goes to the Peerage for suggestions.
mircea_popescu: they are still turds. i don't want to seek in a fucking 2gb file to find block N
asciilifeform: they ain't bdb turds
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 03:24 mircea_popescu: i have nfi how satoshi reasoned to arrive at the current nonsense of 2gb monoliths, but it was dumb.
BingoBoingo: To the Republic I pose New Header for the gray lady with the rabbit hat. "Qntra - [Fill-this-blank] Of The Most Serene Republic"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 03:20 mircea_popescu: also i have nfi what "db" we can trust. they're all shit
mircea_popescu: pop a fresh 8x TB ssd in a 1+0 raid array, ten years later they're within 95% of factory speeds. because never fragmented, because nothing ever deleted.
mircea_popescu: the flash cells will love you.
mircea_popescu: and it's also immensely ssd friendly : you don't touch most blocks. say you keep i dunno, 12 or something like that, user-configured, in memory. this way, you only write them to disk once.
mircea_popescu: or w/e, what was the limit, something stupid like 32k files ?
mircea_popescu: moreover, the disks / kernel are exactly optimized for this task. fuck around with ~mb ish item on disk
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i have nfi how satoshi reasoned to arrive at the current nonsense of 2gb monoliths, but it was dumb. << FAT32 file size limit
mod6: sure, i think going block -> certainly fits into the same paradigm as eatblock/dumpblock.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how satoshi reasoned to arrive at the current nonsense of 2gb monoliths, but it was dumb.
mircea_popescu: actually, improving logging to add some hooks for profiling in there may be a good idea.
mircea_popescu: mod6 note i'm not even discussing a special fs. that's a while down the road. for now, all that's needed is some serious profiling work, to see how we store the thing. prolly as block = file ? and just use a normal ext4 or w/e
mircea_popescu: and then of course they'll discover this nice bug that's been there for 10 years and utterly ruins you. so you gotta update. except the only update available is made by florian "i eat shit for breakfast" weimer and well... it contains 3 extra holes to be burned in 2025
mod6: i think putting effort into: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_tickets.html#6 is the right idea.
mircea_popescu: also i have nfi what "db" we can trust. they're all shit
mircea_popescu: mod6 iirc it keeps popping up w/e we discuss the bitcoin db monstrosity, which is about each 9 months.
mircea_popescu: just the benefit of NOT haviong a whole pile of code in there doing "db" is already immense ; but there's actually no gain from slowing down the disk seeks etc through extra wrappings
mircea_popescu: the thing with the db is, i keep thinking about it and i keep failing to convince myself a db is even needed in the first fucking place. truth be told blockchain is the textbook example of "you don't db this shit son, use the filesystem"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, reall Halloween truth. When Elliot was in that Spielberg movie ET, Elliot did not dress up the alien as a ghost. Elliot dressed the alien up as a klansman.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 23:37 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560997 << this is exactly how it goes, on one end of that : everyone has his own boxes / his own process for acquiring boxes. you can't buy them boxes and mail them over, not really, and if you could it'd be a specialized job and wouldn't work like this. and this isn't even the only angle, people are also variously allergic to divers proteins involved etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1561075 << aha, the chance that he comes up with iron that i would permit in my house, is ~0
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:45 gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560440 < 2.5k usd. Per month, until I bitched about it and it was knocked down to $600/mo - anyways, it isn't about the money, it's about him doing absolutely nothing with it and making a mess that someone will have to clean up.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:33 gabriel_laddel: When my life is less shit I'll be setting up a method by which in-WOT people can get it for free. You all, of course, will be able to sell the same product I am.
mod6: Many technical challenges lie ahead, but with the help of the Lords of tmsr~ and the community at large, we'll be successful.
mod6: Anyway, overall, I'm super excited for the future of TRB.