aquentson: to theifs?
BingoBoingo: aquentson: I want to know what it's like writing for the enemy, CCN promoter of scams!
aquentson: to the 3 ppl that visit it, you mean?
aquentson: are there any here?
BingoBoingo: Lemme check the stats
jhvh1: 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
BingoBoingo: aquentson: Who you work for is a political choice. There are sins you must answer for: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/
BingoBoingo: How is life writing for the GAW shilling scamrag?
aquentson: look at the king sweat
aquentson: <aquentson> of how the unrest in his kingdom can be solved
aquentson: <aquentson> the mighty king
aquentson: <aquentson> well then let history see
aquentson: of how the unrest in his kingdom can be solved
aquentson: the mighty king
aquentson: well then let history see
aquentson: its not an easy problem, ney, the opposite, two years of civil war, devastation all around, bickering
ben_vulpes: aquentson: the notion that someone writing for cointelgraph is a king is absurd on its face
mircea_popescu: aquentson once they manage to win an election, i might believe that. so far -- no hillary. so, no.
aquentson: they care about bigger stuff than your whatever you do here
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes basically it directly transates to a very racist "i am great roman citizen and you are barbarian have these beads". wtf, really ?
aquentson: they dont care about your internal rubish
aquentson: a bit like kings comming from other citadels
ben_vulpes: imagine all the rubbish history books i can't be arsed to read
mircea_popescu: aquentson can you appreciate the ridiculousness of your position, you refused to read history and proposed history as an exchange token within the same five minutes. how is this supposed to work, iyo ?
aquentson: there came king maker mircea_popescu and when all seemed desperate up the hill on sunny uplands
aquentson: imagine the history books
mircea_popescu: well, if you have a restriction on your time, that automatically translates into a restriction in your participation -- both in terms of defining problems and in terms of finding solutions for them.
aquentson: what am I, a bot, to read all trillion words here and quadrillion other shit
mircea_popescu: other than that, today there's absolutely nothing you can either do or say that'd be of consequence.
aquentson: then maybe you appreciate I have a restriction on my time too?
mircea_popescu: how about this solution : you spend the next six months to a year reading you know, rubbish like the log and stuff linked above and so on, then maybe.
aquentson: they fight
aquentson: the community is now divided
mircea_popescu: ok, well, the problem is a lot more fundamental than originally thought.
aquentson: <aquentson> many believe you indirectly have stopped some of them
aquentson: <aquentson> as you know bitcoin's transaction capacity is currently limited, there have been many proposals
mircea_popescu: yes but questions can be answered only if they're meaningful ; so far we're working to create some common basis.
aquentson: many believe you indirectly have stopped some of them
aquentson: as you know bitcoin's transaction capacity is currently limited, there have been many proposals
aquentson: to the scalability question
mircea_popescu: i think the notification's kinda cool, though prolly not for here.
mircea_popescu: in other news, allow me to heartily recommend #chainstate. ben_vulpes 's humble abode, and the home of <mimisbrunnr> block 447563: 1`241 txns, 998`190 bytes
mircea_popescu: well that's nice then.
aquentson: your majesty, lead us to the light
aquentson: the miners are not pleased
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 22:09 aquentson: yes, this idea that individuals have more information and are better placed to make a decision regarding matters that concern them rather than some central authority
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 15:06 mircea_popescu: and before anyone asks : the advantage of this is that this solution scales. ACTUALLY scales. specifically, if at any point in his own time and for any reason in ~his own domain~ taleb wants to get more control, he can. he actually can. you explain to him, when he asks, HOW to be more in control of his mp-wp install. in terms of configuring the php script, or in terms of configuring the apache server, or in terms of configuri
mircea_popescu: for instance, we're all for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599784 for instance. if you had something other than that in mind, it's probably both a) not properly called scaling and b) harmful to everyone.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 22:07 aquentson: can I gain some sort of understanding regarding the position of you guys on scalability?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 21:15 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/7OhDY << from same rag, '“We will cut so much, your head will spin,” Trump promised. Plenty of people will cheer him on despite the fact that federal workers are a bulwark of the country’s middle class. Remember, that middle class everyone was talking about during the campaign? Federal workforce jobs are relatively stable in a disrupted economy. And although the most highly educated could earn more in the pri
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600465 << holy shit what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. GOVT EMPLOYEES CAN NOT BE MIDDLE CLASS! they're bureaucrat class. opposite concepts!
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell aquentson What are your feelings on scaling the human body to store more energy? https://i.sli.mg/G6PHhl.png
trinque: the logs have seen it all
ben_vulpes: Andrew Quentson, the Probing Reporter
ben_vulpes: aquentson: the quickest way to get a handle on the various philosophies floating around is to read at least a year's worth of http://btcbase.org/log
asciilifeform: aaah the quickest way possible...
aquentson: in the quickest way possible
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the socratic method?
ben_vulpes: so you want to ask a cell what the human thinks?
aquentson: there are individuals, in short, and "you" guys
ben_vulpes: there is no "you guys". individuals exist.
aquentson: do you think what I defined as the free market is good or not
ben_vulpes: no, "belief" in "the free market" is wildly unspecific.
ben_vulpes: moreover, anyone can go mine blocks over 1mb at their own discretion.
aquentson: yes, this idea that individuals have more information and are better placed to make a decision regarding matters that concern them rather than some central authority
ben_vulpes: the one true free market?
ben_vulpes: 'the free market'?
aquentson: you must forgive me for being utterly stupid, but do you guys believe in the free market?
ben_vulpes: "scalability" is shorthand for "make bitcon == visa", with all of the chargebacks and fiat braindamage that entails.
aquentson: can I gain some sort of understanding regarding the position of you guys on scalability?
Framedragger: as mcconaughey says in that heavy southern accent in dazed and confused, 'alright, alright, alright.'
asciilifeform: vate sector, the average pay is about $86,000 a year, with benefits, a pension and federal holidays.'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/7OhDY << from same rag, '“We will cut so much, your head will spin,” Trump promised. Plenty of people will cheer him on despite the fact that federal workers are a bulwark of the country’s middle class. Remember, that middle class everyone was talking about during the campaign? Federal workforce jobs are relatively stable in a disrupted economy. And although the most highly educated could earn more in the pri
mircea_popescu: (when preparing to read the beobachter, pick up the closest. it doesn't matter if it's the newest.)
asciilifeform: from same rag, https://archive.is/ackJI << lulzy typo >> 'Aircraft will be flying early Wednesday over the Washington area as part of regularly scheduled exercises designed to ensure a rapid response to aerial intrustions.'
asciilifeform: btw folx most of these will be output of new heuristic, 'if found prime p, and q=m/p is prime, register q'
ben_vulpes: oh wait until you get to the pedofunnel
asciilifeform: 'Over several years, a handful of those workers have notified the FBI when they see signs of child pornography, earning payments from the agency.' << lel
asciilifeform: (do these display on anybody's box??)
ben_vulpes: someone finally makes the obvious defense
asciilifeform: holy fuck the orc glyphs
ben_vulpes: âThere was no evidence of how the contraband got onto Dr. Rettenmaierâs hard drive,â Riddet wrote, âand it could have gotten there before he possessed the computer or against his will.â
ben_vulpes: https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/10/consumer-reports-turned-off-safari-cache-for-their-macbook-pro-battery-tests/ << computers are for browsing the web!
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/validation-is-available-for-all-clientele-in-the-lobby/ << The Whet - Validation is available for all clientele in the lobby.
mircea_popescu: poor ethereum.
trinque: guy took a lot of characters to say "this is good for ethereum"
asciilifeform: 'The entire blockchain ecosystem suffers when situations like this reflect insecurities. Bugs are always going to plague computer code, but when found in such a fledgling field, they are scrutinized and can cause skepticism. To ensure the safety and reliability of any code written, it’s important to follow industry standard best practices.' << ahahahahahaha
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'The signing function in crypto/ecdsa/ecdsa_ossl.c in certain OpenSSL versions and forks is vulnerable to timing attacks when signing with the standardized elliptic curve P-256 despite featuring constant-time curve operations and modular inversion. A software defect omits setting the BN_FLG_CONSTTIME flag for nonces, failing to take a secure code path in the BN_mod_inverse method and therefore resulting in a cache-timing attack vulne
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
mircea_popescu: this has been in my living memory the strongest case of "impossible -- o wait"
asciilifeform: when comes their time.
mircea_popescu: "and if your brother won't rock - your sister will."
mircea_popescu: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/57/7c/66/577c66dd8438d1fbf7166b3898309320.jpg << in other period memorabilia.
asciilifeform: l expertise or more staff in the field. The new system would need inherent time-of-use (TOU) functionality to lessen peak demand and peak usage by C&I users and also web-based presentation to allow customers to analyze usage patterns. Relying on the previous success of Itron’s MV-RS® data collection system for its keyed reads, and prior satisfaction with Itron’s staff and support, IID again looked to Itron.'
asciilifeform: which brings us to : 'Imperial Irrigation District had an initiative in front of them that took into account replacing meters and reading processes. The utility also began looking for an IP-based remote meter reading solution that utilized hosted software. The hosted solution would need to work in conjunction with IID’s existing billing system while integrating its various data collection technologies— without requiring additiona
mircea_popescu: dude the shit you reference...
asciilifeform: both of the vzw's have ssltron on 4443, and we find:
asciilifeform: (specifically they did not permit chumps incoming tcp)
mircea_popescu: maybe they bought some
asciilifeform: i happen to know that it does not (or at least several years ago, did not) have ssh built into konsoomer radiomodem. so these gotta be infrastructural pieces.
mircea_popescu: you should read the wiki page on it, too. "schroedinger maybe said something sometime about colors -- and here's a bunch of corn fed fucktards droning about nothing in particular".
mircea_popescu: basically they've taken any 13yo favela living chick's fantasy of "maybe i'm secretly a princess" and rewrote it with a thesaurus at hand. seriously, this is the us contribution of the respectable discipline, a rewrite of old televisa scripts ?
mircea_popescu: but this entire "qualia" business is absolutely the crowning moment for "american philosophy", in the sense that the crown is made out of turds and the crowning solemnity is undistinguishable from giving whirlies.
mircea_popescu: this is a backdoor premature ejaculator's construct, i've nfi. the hope that doth not dare speak its proper name.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they're thinking ; but it certainly isn't vitalism per se. at least that's respectable in a wild-eye delirious sort of way, like good cinema.
asciilifeform: in the more general case.
asciilifeform searches in vain in dictionary for what you call an 'animal who has never been hunted and has nfi what dog or rifle sounds like or why they are interesting' in engl.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:44 mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ?
mircea_popescu: there's a humongo vein of "couldn't happen to me" middle class morality.
asciilifeform: why they come to this one, being in such a position, is beyond my puny brain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: evidently d00d did business in usa, and set foot there, and now will never leave. 'roach motel.'
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why the chinese'd care ?
asciilifeform: the interesting bit omitted here is that this particular statute is written in such a way as to specifically claim jurisdiction over ~everyone~, and not simply usg subjects
asciilifeform: 'A DOJ official said Ho and an associate, Ching Ning Guey -- who pleaded guilty to the same charge in 2015 -- were the first to be charged for violation of the 1946 act, a Cold-War era statute aimed at preventing nuclear proliferation.'
asciilifeform: re the weird extraterritorial thing usg has
asciilifeform: we had a thread about this, though for some reason i can't turn it up in the l0gz
asciilifeform: from same rag, https://archive.is/7UYeG >> 'A Chinese-American nuclear engineer pleaded guilty on Friday to conspiring to produce "special nuclear material" in China in violation of the U.S. Atomic Energy Act, the Department of Justice (DOJ) said.'
mircea_popescu: let them at least work it wtf.
asciilifeform: i can almost see the pleabargain-of-the-fyootoor: 'mr idiot, 33, to forgo impalement or the anthill, agreed not appeal any death sentence of beheading or less'
mircea_popescu: spends most of his productive years filling in for all the black slave jobs abraham lincoln disappeared out of the south to recreate in the north ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck must be going on in a 33 yo dork's head to agree not to appeal a prison sentence of 12 years ?
asciilifeform: in yet other noose, https://archive.is/3aDwi << 'A Florida man pleaded guilty on Monday to charges that he conspired to operate an illegal bitcoin exchange .... Anthony Murgio, 33, entered his plea in federal court in Manhattan to three counts, including conspiracy to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business and conspiracy to commit bank fraud, a month before he was to face trial. Under a plea agreement, Murgio agreed not to
asciilifeform: buried in this lengthy turd is the entirely valid observation that 'If Miner i cannot obtain a single block posted before Bi, he quits the business. Therefore, we investigate the time between any two consecutive events. As {Ii} is indeed a Bernoulli process, ... ' (concluding with 'miner cartel is +ev and inevitable')
asciilifeform: 'The paper propose a new proof-of-work mechanism that improves decentralization and reduces the risk of 51% attack without increasing the risk of Sybil attack. This new mechanism introduces a series of principles such as Career open to all talents, without distinction of birth, Distribution according to labor and All Men are created equal.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'socialist bitcoin', http://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40854-016-0045-6
asciilifeform: btw over the years i was able to purchase an xdp probe from a scrap dealer. but never once got hold of the software. so made no headway on reversing xdp.
asciilifeform: to observe the increase.
asciilifeform: it is like the increase in diameter of german maidenz taking 1,001st syrian cock, after the 1,000th -- you will need a micrometer.
asciilifeform: (in actuality the thing suxx, because it cannot -- usually -- be used to debug bios. a la sage probe (or intel's, xdp))
asciilifeform: is supposed to “react very fast” to “disinformation” on social media, especially with an eye toward the general election in 2017, because fake news could “influence” said election and avoid the predetermined outcome (by making the voice of the people heard).'
asciilifeform: 'This plan is now in play, with the Merkel régime threatening to heavily fine social media platforms for… “fake news,” of course! The Ministry of the Interior is about to create a Disinformation Defence Center, to battle “fake news.” If you think that it sounds like Orwell’s Ministry of Truth, or the MfS in the old East Germany, that’s because it is. To be located very close to Merkel’s office in Berlin, this center
asciilifeform: case of regional interest,” making an even bigger mockery of themselves, because by then even the Washington Post took up the story. Similar things have happened on several similar occasions, and in each case the exposure the story received through social media made these events into running jokes. So, not reporting the news at all will not work any more, and it is time for Plan B: actual, real censorship of social media.'
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 21:52 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/the-fourth-reich-grips-berlin/ << Qntra - The Fourth Reich Grips Berlin
asciilifeform: in other lelz, specifically in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598644 , http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/01/wherefore-goes-germany.html (guest piece) >> 'When the beautiful daughter of an EU politician was brutally raped and drowned by a migrant in Freiburg last year, Tagesschau, the flagship newscast of state TV channel ARD did not report it at all and was forced to justify this two days later. They then called it “only a
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600288 >> 'Shortsighted people once laughed at the idea of a $1,000 Bitcoin. Today they laugh at the idea of a 1,000MB block. ' << lel
ben_vulpes: definitely operating at the edge of my knowledge here what with running code from the web; a fair amount inside is a little shaky/shabby; and i have nfi what exciting attack vectors the system may present
mircea_popescu: what'd you have them do, put old steam/electric engine on truck bed, declare it hybrid ?
mircea_popescu: ah, then inexcusable.
ben_vulpes: ah and apparently the sunroof was from viva la bam
ben_vulpes: ever watch the shows?
ben_vulpes: remember when the jackass boys sawed a sun roof into a murcielago or whatever?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the truly sad thing about the show is that they have the budget to hoon in style but choose instead retarded fucking tricks
ben_vulpes: wasted the lavish budget they squeezed out of uncle jeff on such fucking retarded hijinks in e2 i could not continue
mircea_popescu: gotta fill the air ; everything but talk is expensive. so "news" and "talkshows" and "reality tv" and anything. it'll be talking.
mircea_popescu: anything but sitting and talking is expensive. this is the fundamental mantra organising all tv.
pete_dushenski: i think i've narrowed down the issue with grand tour to the singular : jeremy clarkson, james may, and richard hammond are too fucking old to be interesting or relevant.
ben_vulpes: also features omar from the wire playing a cop.
ben_vulpes: utterly. fucking. hysterical. mostly because it's not ever clear how funny the script is on purpose and how funny on accident.
ben_vulpes: the tedium of episode 2 was enough for me.
ben_vulpes: let the cargo culting begin
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: maybe that's how all successful ceo's hold their hands while driving. now watch wannabes copy this move like girl who can't use canopener.
ben_vulpes: look at him talk with them, same thing
pete_dushenski: speaking of lulz, carlos ghosn seen here lying through his teeth about how 'relaxing' driving his infiniti autonomous car is while he nervously hovers his hands over around the steering wheel while in motion lest the robot steer him into incoming traffic at any moment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJOGZX6_WVc
pete_dushenski: some real quality lulz in the last couple months tho
pete_dushenski: are you planning on moving in the near term ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways doors would have require 1x12 lumber instead of 1x8 lumber for the sides making the shelf heavier and less portable when loaded
BingoBoingo: Nah, there's a substantial difference. A windows computer is an active evil. A bookshelf is a functional item that trades dust protection for not spending a second and a third day making doors and hinges
pete_dushenski: has many of the elements of a proper tool but isn't quite all the way there, even if it's a sterling example of its kind.
pete_dushenski: then no such thing as a proper bookshelf i guess
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, why no pair generation ? 1MeV photons, thin layer of heavy atoms to support the phenomena, strong magnetic field to separate the end products...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is more of a hand-saw. << IN other handsaw, potato quality pic http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/shelf.jpg
mircea_popescu: they'll tweet about it though.
asciilifeform used to work with d00d from tw, interestingly a dbtronics greybeard, and asked him 'ready to fight for your motherland against dirty reds' . he looked as if beholding a martian
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the style is borne of living in middleclassistan. please excuse its regular recurrence. still working on growing out of this shadow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's not there. you can trivially ~initiate~, right in your kitchen, with laser. what nobody can do is ~confine~ so that chain react.
BingoBoingo: And there's always more drunks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fwiw, "laster initiated fusion" is exactly under http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588196 ; do teh math, it's not there.
pete_dushenski: speaking of raising a glass, how about one for the taiwanese politician who had a public funeral parade... with strippers... on jeep yj's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIB09qEy1Vk
asciilifeform raises the glass, drinks.
mircea_popescu: eh, nobody rescues em, that's why there's AA.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i'd rather try to rescue drunks. << Is there any better way to stay sober?
a111: Logged on 2014-11-14 05:46 asciilifeform: http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/04/f14/Volume%201%20NNSA.pdf << mega-turd. i don't expect that anyone will read it. but i did. and will relate, how obscenely it brags about the extraordinary bezzle of the u.s. 'national ignition facility'
mircea_popescu: as in they sat around passing a glass pipe, ice ?
ben_vulpes: but the memory fabricator insists it was derived from ice-likes
a111: Logged on 2015-01-10 01:30 asciilifeform: PeterL: at the time, various folks (including mr. t) were experimenting with electron tubes of various descriptions. t claimed to have one 'open to the air' on one end (!)
asciilifeform: and ordinary laser at the tip.
asciilifeform: i was picturing a tesla-valvular-conduit, with vortex flaps pointing in the direction of the exhaust, running the length of the rocket.
asciilifeform: what the hell do you use for optics in a laser-ignited rocket motor ?
asciilifeform: plenty of these
ben_vulpes: i suppose that i mean "men who have built their own shops out of forth"
asciilifeform: if this sounds perplexing, go an' pick up the language, it will take you an evening or so.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't really a language with 'greybeard potential', no dark corners, 50pg. standard. if you wanted to program your interstellar ship in it, you would go to look for intelligent engineers and teach'em forth (in about a day), rather than to look for 'forth greybeard'
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 03:44 asciilifeform had 'tricks of the unix masters', old maculature crud, on his shelf as a student, and an actual greybeard saw, asked 'where is your 'tricks of the doom masters' to go next to this'
trinque: ah, thought ya meant they were eaten by fighter manufacturers.
trinque turns on top gun theme
asciilifeform: afaik his logic synthesistron is not published. i would dearly love to be proven wrong about this tho.
asciilifeform: but this is an apocryphal thing, afaik he has not published the entire thing anywhere.
asciilifeform: now! it ~is~ 'republican' in the sense where -- iirc -- moore eschews the traditional '1000 terabyte and 10x10^8 dollars' fab toolchain in favour of his own
ben_vulpes: you've even said that chip speed is trumped by coherent semantics to the bedrock.
ben_vulpes: and in other NICs: "A software-defined full duplex 10baseT Network Interface Controller is implemented as a team of nodes controlling transmit and receive signal pins directly. The signals are conditioned by minimal electrical interface circuitry. External transmit timing is used. The team is designed to function as a memory-mapped device but may be stripped down for direct use by other node teams."
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 03:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the igloo2 product line have something hilariously wrong with it a la apu2?
mircea_popescu: what, everyone wants to write the bootlegger's guide to $object, because it's such a funny recipe, you just add water in the shape of own drool and presto, another cracked.com article ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 03:30 mircea_popescu: i'd rather try to rescue drunks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600113 << then yer in luck, i suspect that g_l is a good candidate for drink, probably has 6 months or so until hitting bottom
mircea_popescu: dude they have a "person" page, "superintelligent shades of color blue" ?
ben_vulpes: half the time i bounce through cliki i end up in a loop of this pointing to that pointing to some Person page pointing back to the totally uninformative original page
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the igloo2 product line have something hilariously wrong with it a la apu2?
mircea_popescu: i'd rather try to rescue drunks.
mircea_popescu: you can train a bright monkey to do plenty of the things off that list ; but the intelligent can not be helped.
mircea_popescu: and ftr, a somebody who is or is suspected to be smart enough to have done stuff and hasn't isn't thereby above someone who is too dumb to have done anything. on the contrary, and deeply so.
asciilifeform: there is a multikilometre-length list of unsolved problems, undone chores.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: if you're feeling energetic, by all means, do something useful. (also there is the option of being useless, but quietly)
gabriel_laddel_p: and can I substitute it with working out the ternary circuts I asked adlai to do?
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: am I allowed to respond to people who reference me in the logs?
mircea_popescu: yeah this is not particularly useful. gabriel_laddel_p you're in no position to a) challenge anyone here ; b) hurr durr about what you've done. you've done nothing, outside of being yet another of california's loud bums.
trinque: the unrate indicates my level of interest in subj
gabriel_laddel_p: there are public logs, gimme a link
trinque: I am not the one begging with hat in hand.
asciilifeform: in re degrees of certainty. e.g., earning the -10 is quite an achievement, it requires being a reliable compass of nogoodness
trinque: the saner and more beneficial path is to learn.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but i actually follow the formulation given in mircea_popescu's handbook
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: pro tip: when you abuse things, they will also abuse you back.
asciilifeform: wot.deedbot.org is the current.
gabriel_laddel_p: -10 magicaltux -0.5 49 7,566 Feb 26, 2014 pathetic Judas Goat.
asciilifeform: concerning the meaning of ratings, i.e. conveying degrees of certainty
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: I see no one could interpret my rating of BingoBoingo as crying/flailing, and the only "ship" of mine people here have attempted to right is Masamune.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: Humans are charming, aren't they?
phf: though apparently it's been gone from the web for a while now
gabriel_laddel_p: you programmed atop these machines for how many years before discovering lisp?
trinque: you should feel honored that folks spent as much time as they did trying to right your ship.
trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: the crying/flailing has gotten old by now.
phf: i once read grothendieck's récoltes et semailles, which is a kind of an autobiography
mircea_popescu: i cant readily think of any less interesting subject of a biography than a mathematician. if the dude spent his life in solitary confinment with pen and paper it'd make nary a difference.
mircea_popescu: the shopping lists of great writers, also ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 01:08 pete_dushenski: "My overall conclusion is that chickens are just as cognitively, emotionally and socially complex as most other birds and mammals in many areas, and that there is a need for further noninvasive comparative behavioral research with chickens as well as a re-framing of current views about their intelligence."