pete_dushenski: "For the recent abnormal operation of Bitcoin trading platform, on January 6 the People's Bank of China Business Management Department, the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Financial Affairs jointly met with the relevant regulatory authorities of the "currency network", "currency" and other major currency trading platform responsible person, Understand the operation of the platform, suggesting that the possible
asciilifeform: in other lulz, disinfo farms working overtime, https://cryptome.org/2017/01/Steele-Trump.pdf ( no, does not exist as human text, full of scan-of-scan nonsense, but quite hilarious )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-politicians-dont-ever-do-anything-for-the-people-a-model/ << Trilema - Why politicians don't ever do anything for the people, a model
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-general-brendan-eich-jwz/ << Trilema - The General Brendan Eich, JWZ
mircea_popescu: i now have to start writing an article IN THE MIDDLE OF WRITING AN ARTICLE. damn you all!
asciilifeform: (piece was not about strings, but another 'need' vs 'want', but otherwise very similar idea)
asciilifeform: ll that right away after you made up your mind to veer off the road, and This Is Surely Somebody's Fault...'
asciilifeform: '...suppose you drive down the highway and you suddenly want to go some nice place you saw just before you pass a forest. you veer off the road, plunge into the wilderness and promptly decide that you need four-wheel drive, a huge cutting device in front of your car, much better shock absorbers, a bigger engine that could actually run on swamp water instead of getting all drowned, and then need an amphibious vehicle to get across the
asciilifeform: davout: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3144404199547949@naggum.no.html << from 6th paragraph, with the 'swamp water'
mircea_popescu: and yes i plant my own lovage, in buenos aires, because the plant doesn't exist and "soup condiment mix" doesn't satisfy.
davout: mircea_popescu: yea, i guess the question is where you stop. at which point do you decide that you're going to buy these apples instead of growing them, because ultimately you want an apple pie
asciilifeform: in other languages, e.g., python, ruby, there is a lesser sin, you end up stuffing multitude of O(n) ops in places where you oughta have O(1), O(n^2) ops where with some thought you could've had O(n), etc. and the braindamage adds up
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's very symbolically imperial, also. the language of "rights" and "rule of law" makes it trival to start a "war on drugs" or "women against rape". then the state ends and everyone is at a loss why the fuck it did.
mircea_popescu: cue ballas with his "there's a difference between what you need and what you want, and the media will relentlessly give you strings"
asciilifeform: davout: in some programming systems, it is very easy to inadvertently ask the machine to solve an np-hard problem. and for 0 good reason, other than that making such a language stroked academitard cocks
mircea_popescu: aka "you can get some version of what you possibly wanted done very easy at the cost of understanding what you actually wanted or what the hell's the differece."
mircea_popescu: well, entirely depends on your definition of evil, but the point remains they're not helping you, they're just smothering you.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-12 14:09 asciilifeform: they create 'secret talmud' of workable ops, that are not visually distinct from intractable ones
davout: mircea_popescu: i see the point in general, but i'm not sure i'd take it as far as considering some additional string primitives as being evil
mircea_popescu: well then.
asciilifeform: they create 'secret talmud' of workable ops, that are not visually distinct from intractable ones
asciilifeform: this is main reason why haskell and other 'lazy eval' systems are malignant
mircea_popescu: which is altogether not an unreasonable bar for all slavery.
mircea_popescu: the computer doesn't in the slightest mind running in a for loop from now until the heat-end of history. however, it would humbly request you actually write its death sentence deliberately rather than by uncomprehended accidenty.
mircea_popescu: vice-versa : they have to cost that, because they're stuck papering over the fact that the operator has no idea what he wants.
davout: asciilifeform: the reason some of the string primitives aren't included, e.g. "substring" is that they're O(n)? In other words, that the convenience comes at the cost of incentivizing operator idiocy?
mircea_popescu: then again how to speak truth to clueless is a quite open problem in the first place.
mircea_popescu: if you look through the log it's pretty evident alf understands exactly what the problem is, in spite of his deeply boneheaded, inept self-expression. which sadly makes it evident only retrospectively.
mircea_popescu: there's two points. one, where i saw it at the periphery and feared it may be a thing, which made me pretty pissy : http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-11#1340 and then http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-11#1374 as the issue was structuring in my head. then of course the closing comments early today morning, http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-12#323 as the thing couldn't actually be dismissed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is in fact useful to remember that the 'convenience' of cstring is == to the 'convenience' of shitting on the floor where you stand
mircea_popescu: i know. i hadn't seen it until yesterday either.
mircea_popescu: see the whole point of "string" as a concept (and from it, as a type) is based on a fundamental ambiguity. now it's this, now it's that.
asciilifeform: 'if your grandmother had balls...'
mircea_popescu: all you need is a false implication somewhere, davout ; ANYWHERE. once you have it then everything becomes provable.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 06:24 trinque: in other python 2 was already shit... all([]) -> True yet any([]) -> False
mircea_popescu: "it's not clear to me how the ability to manipulate something you can'd define is equivalent to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1583902 "
davout: would the same functionality, included in cl's standard be deemed heretic?
davout: it's still not very clear to me how the ability to manipulate string a bit more easily is equivalent to heresy
mircea_popescu: possibly your idea of "scales" is tainted by the idiots, "to scale means to be used by a larger cattle headcount". that has nothing to do. to scale means to go up the abstraction tree. an apple is a correct apple if it scales, ie, if the concept of apple follows from it.
mircea_popescu: sinful is also a proper attribute of incorrectness, because it is literally a headless spawn of the very devil.
mircea_popescu: davout something (convenience, anything else) is correct if it scales, which is to say is derived from the prime mover. anything else - incorrect.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i quite enjoyed flailing for definitions once i realised what the problem was (you can tell i move to arrays at some point in a desperate bid etc)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 15:10 mircea_popescu: this is how a mother acts, and why kids have not much business with her past the age of about 10 or so, depending how retarded they are.
mircea_popescu: the objection is that it bundles incorrect convenience, which is NEVER a good thing. link here to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599790
davout: which may or may not be a good thing depending on the particular point of view
davout: the point is simply that it bundles a good bit of convenience
mircea_popescu: ie, the veterans' objections couldn't be dismissed.
mircea_popescu: well, a large part of the problem is that strings aren't something.
davout: trinque: no, i just want to read the thing, not necessarily in the context of needing info about some particular bit
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1601798 << the usual thing is to create an editor keybinding that launches the hyperspec page at cursor, something like hyperspec.el or helm-dash
mircea_popescu: Framedragger lol there you do deanonimizing trilema readership :D
davout: asciilifeform: does the CLHS exist as a single-page HTML doc ?
davout: not like i got on my chair, and slowly poured the whole contents of the wine bottle on mircea_popescu's head while everyone was watching in horror :D
asciilifeform: iirc he barfed during the schism? so who knows.
mod6: Ah, right. Yeah, I forget what his thought was there.
BingoBoingo: From other Petrus reports http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3528236/Male-Norwegian-politician-raped-asylum-seeker-says-feels-GUILTY-attacker-deported-man-suffer-Somalia.html
mod6: This was also the first time we discussed your ideas around mem fragmentation.
asciilifeform: hey if boeing can count an instance of asciilifeform-shown-737-ad as $737price*$p-of-him-buying, and they also get to imagine that the latter is a positive number, >0, then gdp can be trillion!!!1
asciilifeform: it is a lol, picture if you searched 'boeing 737' one time, and then every ad you see after that is for buying one
indiancandy: there watching u
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform searched for nitrogen cryoseparator ~once~ , ~year ago, and now sees google ads for it every single fucking day
jurov: where the manuls are
mircea_popescu: you were there, mthreat was too
mircea_popescu: i was just sitting there!
mircea_popescu: davout knows, he poured a wine bottle on my head there for some reason.
mircea_popescu: there's this place i go for 1kg primo beef.
jurov: maybe someone will teach you to use therealbitcoin in exchange for cam sessions or such
indiancandy: im in the uk
jurov: transferwise does the conversion
indiancandy: oh the dude
indiancandy: all they do al day
indiancandy: they no nothin about btc
indiancandy: thes guys
mircea_popescu: ah. well, bitch at them i guess.
indiancandy: oh they do dollars
indiancandy: of the sites
indiancandy: whats the link
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of camho sites that will pay you in bitcoin too i think
mircea_popescu: you don't buy it on credit in the first place, i guess.
mircea_popescu: well so then. investing is for rich folk.
indiancandy: btc is off the roof atm
mircea_popescu: either very advanced spoof or very advanced real mccoy.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:10 asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
phf: it opens with enough of common lisp to be useful, and then goes into actual programming problems. i think it's one of the best programming books in general.
asciilifeform: (the latter signed -- with actual lordly key, obviously)
asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
asciilifeform: hey it ain't a hygienic box regardless of what you do or do not put in the holes.
asciilifeform: or in the pcmcia hole, etc
phf: 2 hours of battery is a bit sad, but i'm not planning on "working from a coffee shop" either
phf: yeah, i'm just building a typing laptop. probably going to take it to india with me instead of main machine. can't really afford getting it stolen, and don't want to bother with proper compartmentalization
asciilifeform: they're all rubbish.
asciilifeform: somewhere in the l0gz, i told this tale.
asciilifeform: the vendor even flew in a flunkie
asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense
phf: "The system works by periodically reporting back to a central authority. In the event of theft, the central authority can instruct the resident agent to wipe all information as a security measure, or to track the whereabouts of the system, to help recover the stolen items via subsequent law enforcement activities"
asciilifeform: and probably quite unnecessary in more recent iron, which has the intel fritzchip
trinque: the claim made is that you can "switch it off permanently" iirc
asciilifeform: (it is winblowz-only, was then, and afaik to this day even remains.)
asciilifeform: btw this bios contains the infamous 'computrace' rootkit. the cure for which is 1) don't switch it on 2) don't run winblowz
asciilifeform: if you get a half-size card, you oughta also get the aluminum extender clip. (about $1)
asciilifeform: https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB16LIuIVXXXXXqXFXXq6xXFXXXW/Wireless-PCI-E-Atheros-AR5BXB6-AR5424-Wireless-Wifi-Mini-PCIe-wlan-card-for-IBM-T60-T60p.jpg << them
phf: oh that's crafty. so you just plop atheros in the same slot as where intel wifi sits? it looked pretty "standard" the way it was sitting there
asciilifeform: nops out the pci vendorid check on post.
phf: i feel like you talked about the patch before, what does it do?
asciilifeform: so to salvage it, i did the above.
asciilifeform: originally i bought that box to try the rms thing.
phf: what's the packing format?
phf: ooh a patched on.. i take it you hand patched it, rather than compile from some leaked source?
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaalso in order to do this you will need the patched bios.
asciilifeform: aaaaalso iirc you gotta rip out the intel wifi nic and (optionally) put in a normal-people (e.g., atheros) one
asciilifeform: also there is a script for getting the weirdo buttons on that machine to work, but it isn't original to me, and can be found elsewhere.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/first-mining-difficulty-adjustment-of-2017-brings-6-05-rise-for-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - First Mining Difficulty Adjustment of 2017 Brings ~6.05% Rise For Another All Time High
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly revisiting the ablative microtome thing: betcha you could read the cross-section via purely electrical means. (there are four substances: n-doped si, p-doped si, isolator si, and metal. these are readily distinguishable without resorting to fancy optics, electron beam, or anything of the kind, just need sliding probe)
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: in other 'news', 'DESIGN WITH PURPOSE, CREATE WITH PASSION There’s a reason why Altium Designer has a new license activated every hour, every day.'
jhvh1: thestringpuller: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 772.11, Best ask: 773.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.67000, Last trade: 773.79, 24 hour volume: 53763.05431689, 24 hour low: 765.0, 24 hour high: 923.66, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: i'm also vaguely curious which 2nd rate herp is going to, in a decade or two, "innovatively" write down "his" ideas about the new novel and the future of authorship.
mircea_popescu: (yes, it's boys and poys, because boy comes from blue not the fucking other way around, what terrorism is this.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno ; i suspect poys die with their hymen intact in that universe
mircea_popescu: the "authorship" bullshit / englithment fiction really went as far as it could go. in fact, a lot further than it should have ever went.
mircea_popescu: in any case should be interesting once the v model takes hold for novel-writing, and no novel is anything but what it was meant to be : a tree.
asciilifeform: quite possibly. other one requires coprocessor that i didn't come from the factory with, i suspect, to appreciate properly
mircea_popescu: does this mean in spite of mah best effort it's entirely divorced from the other one ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait so you liked the story of mark's anal woes ?
asciilifeform: do it from the ~edge~ side of the chip. and this way surface/vol. ratio favours cooling also.
mircea_popescu: ah like a polisher. mebbe. it will necessarily move some of the unerlying though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's good physics why you can't have a reliable microtome.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's not even (just) about the screenplay. the actors, ALL OF THEM, without any exception, can't act. can't talk. can't even fucking block. they look like they came off eggs.
mircea_popescu: and WHY does everythiong look&feel exactly like black mirror these days! wtf, they went from reality-tv to the same sort of twilight zone docudrama.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger either you recommended that or someone else did. i tried to watch the thing, kicked it out within ~10 minutes.
asciilifeform: literally turn the problem on its side.
asciilifeform: ic reversers sweat over cauldrons of hot acids, fiddle with ion beams, etc. but: one thing i've always wondered re subj is whether anybody's tried... microtome! then you dun care how many layers there are, and of what. just blast away the edge, and scan THAT! a few 100 atoms at a time.
Framedragger: "singles are given 45 days to find a romantic partner or otherwise be turned into animals."
Framedragger: film recommendation by free association ("The Cineplex Entertaining Cinecenter for Couples")! -> The Lobster (2016)
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/scanning-microwave-impedance-microscopy-smim << this looks quite buildable, using same mechanical rigging as the classic 'STM in your kitchen' recipe
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the same old news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/d128a7c747389ae7523933a12322b694/tumblr_nymeikQRtK1uj49axo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: very nice two-year-apart binome of a) girl wanna-be woman in the ustardian vein ; b) girl recounting (retardedly) the failure of the attempt.
mircea_popescu: anyway the historical http://trilema.com/2010/femeia-nesuferita/ should prolly be read in tandem with http://trilema.com/2012/oameni-de-a-caror-nefericire-ma-bucur/
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform's puny brain was not up to the task of making sense of hanbot's story.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski in the end, i wrote a continuation to hanbot 's thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 00:48 mircea_popescu: trinque how easy would it be to make the !!up for noobs 30 minutes or 60 lines, whichever comes first ?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1600846 << not hard; I'll keep that in mind when rewriting the component that does it
asciilifeform: humanlike bot will not go straight to 'solution' on any obvious hill-climbing path, but will artfully dig itself holes to then artfully climb out of, like meat does.
asciilifeform: see also the alphago thread (it was difficult to mistake the thing for a meat player)
asciilifeform: in particular in re the traditional bot/bot-detector arms race.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 14:15 mircea_popescu: the reason playing loose works in poker is the same reason you can keep a camp dormful of teenage girls awake until 6am by hiding a tape with giggles on it that plays every 5 to 10 minutes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1601428 << poker 'solving' ai per se is ~uninteresting. the genuinely nifty thing would be a 'realistic humanlike' (e.g., 'loose') player.
mircea_popescu: sooo, i feel like translating ; anyone has a trilema piece they've been wanting in english ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/funny-pictures-auto-505057.jpeg ; dat disjunction error sounds pretty serious.
mircea_popescu: davout because that totally works, not talking about things makes them go away.
mircea_popescu: lol ok. so make a key then.
mircea_popescu: apt nick then/
mircea_popescu: the robot pubescent puella doesn't suffer from the problem, sleeps well through the night.
mircea_popescu: the reason playing loose works in poker is the same reason you can keep a camp dormful of teenage girls awake until 6am by hiding a tape with giggles on it that plays every 5 to 10 minutes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes jews are white nao ?! or is this joek because canada is so far up north even the coal's white there. not to mention the pines.
Framedragger: he wrote this after having departed from the math community already, right
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 02:39 phf: i once read grothendieck's récoltes et semailles, which is a kind of an autobiography
ben_vulpes: sayeth the white jew from canada
pete_dushenski: speaking of better than average ai, looks like some boys from the u of a cracked heads-up no-limit texas https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.01724v2.pdf
pete_dushenski: it was always holmes in my head, and always spoken by that bald sanchez from the ff series.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: musta been one of those new-fangled volvos/ford/hondas/mercs that stops for you. lucky you. a family friend's grandson wasn't so lucky when he was backed over and killed by... his own grandfather. couple years ago now.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you gotta see the molestation ongoing in #chainstate
mircea_popescu: but the solution of course would be, i'll register a key for it and have it speak the !!v string.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes im more like contemplating the nonsense situation i unwittingly created.
ben_vulpes: freenode kicked the thing for flood, didn't change anything about image state
phf: is it still the old definition?
mircea_popescu: actually "submissions" is not the right metric here
mircea_popescu: and in other jewish nose news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/35c47a7e80401d795c752c254c4863d5/tumblr_o251tmIdZf1sr1f5fo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: they do not seem to be available at any price, from anyone, at all.
asciilifeform: the one 'republican ic' i would immediately put into production if i had a fab, is the humble antifuse rom !
asciilifeform: goldrush.com >> 'First local Internet Service Provider in Tuolumne County Proudly serving the Mother Lode since 1994.'
asciilifeform: (at some point possibly we add a button that lets folx download privkeys for these!)
asciilifeform: from now on these will happen simultaneously with normal phuctoring.
asciilifeform: mod6: these are all factors that were derivable in O(1) (prime resulting from straight division by existing factor)
mircea_popescu: no spanish speaker has ever done any work. i don't think EVER, but certainly not in the past century.
mircea_popescu: eh, they have no fucking idea what "ambito laboral" is.
asciilifeform: and at the same time ^ 'supercomputing expertise for small & medium enterprise network' !
asciilifeform expected a BingoBoingo monstrosity behind the link, no dice
mircea_popescu: and in other "we admitted to ourselves and others that our body weight had become unmanageable" news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/45bd750529e3d5003a5d899c1d22c7aa/tumblr_o2at86xKG41udhn6bo1_1280.jpg
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8976E85B167783F01BC1A02EF1CEDA4CEB56CC571BBD465FA9DC24EA6DD8282F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1659...7367 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '192.108.119.134 (ssh-rsa key from 192.108.119.134 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (rhadamanthe.ipv6.rennes.telecom-bretagne.eu. FR E 29)
asciilifeform: somehow i did not previously notice the mass of mail.*
mircea_popescu: cuz i knew some rather unruly czechs.
asciilifeform: lel, smalltime winblowz payware, i thought these died out...
mircea_popescu: and in other schoolgirls, http://68.media.tumblr.com/a1f6f0a7221c8b41344c9477e3166c37/tumblr_o2k6ekkTR11qzhjh2o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: if it were 'all linux', we'd be drowning in these
asciilifeform: 'powered by google sites' << they debianize?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr you're missing out on all the lisp fun and ima not tell you where it is!
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/3331ad4db5a3ebd5ca7f61e0e04db031/tumblr_o258asz57T1uj49axo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: it was never any mystery which ones these'd be, if you see a prime factor ~1/2 the length of the modulus... it's a loose end.
mircea_popescu: so in the end a few dozen ? 100s ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah it's chiefly why i'm not saying anything. let the log be awash today and let it be done with
mircea_popescu: phf my reasoning was, that he was having a meaningless dispute with ben_vulpes ; possibly understood it to be meaningless ; and possibly therefore attempted to go upnode. that the selection of upnode wasn't judicious can't be held against him specifically because no standing.
asciilifeform: after it, we will see no more of the 'oh hey this first popped last year, snore, 2nd factor, obviouscat is obvious'
phf: well, he opened with a "scale issue", but when started getting concrete answers from ben_vulpes "backtracked" but doing one of those setup questions, "do you believe in freedom?" sort of thing. ben_vulpes refused to eat the bait. that's where you either switch tactic or close the setup "well, if you believe in freedom then you obviously believe in bombing them sons of bitches". but instead of closing he started nitpicking whatever ben_vulpes was s
mircea_popescu: "i thought i grown out of 16yo cunt, until i saw another one"
asciilifeform: if they're anything like mine
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you oughta post'em, i bet they were a riot
ben_vulpes: does not mean they were not epic
asciilifeform ~might~ be the current 'play with food' endurance record holder...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i cheated, the idiot shat in kako's chan first and was thrown out, i was tuned in
mircea_popescu: there is also that.
ben_vulpes: yeah well some days i just feel like fucking with one part of the edifice instead of the whole thing
mircea_popescu: it's way the fuck better to legislate religion than sexuality.
mircea_popescu: phf wait, the free market thing made it obvious to you ? it's what made me up him.
mircea_popescu: legalize brothels, MAGA.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 22:13 asciilifeform: aaah the quickest way possible...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600546 << if only they did this at the brothel, where it belongs, rather than everywhere else.
mircea_popescu: phf my bad for the 2nd, i upped him through having merely parsed the log to a point where he somehow managed to sum > 0.
phf: well, sometimes we have visitors who, while they hold divergent opinions, present interesting view into the minds of others. like that nodic girl, who couldn't even. if nothing else she was articulate and feisty. this guy was just painfully tedious, and it was obvious that he's going to be from how he chose to setup his opener, about the free market.
ben_vulpes: something tells me the only black guy left canada a long time ago
BingoBoingo: as far back as 2013 ben_vulpes and I duelled over who get to get the most playtime with the food that comes in here.
BingoBoingo: phf: My bad. I have a bad habit of playing with the food.
phf: the ups for this guy
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski your case isn't even the most egregious. i ever tell you about the idiot that drove straight into us, from a full stop, backwards ? his car, much wiser than him, braked and so there was no damage.
mircea_popescu: trinque how easy would it be to make the !!up for noobs 30 minutes or 60 lines, whichever comes first ?
aquentson: but is not your idea that there should be a hierarchy?
BingoBoingo: Scale is just fine now. Bitcoin's riding high on the coup attempts falling.
aquentson: what's your solution to the scalability debate?
BingoBoingo: The effect is your butt hurts.
BingoBoingo: And who gave you the label maker?
aquentson: its the un autistic bit
aquentson: but my retord is I would not be here otherwise
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/f4d7877e553c7637fc9935c07d317a79/tumblr_o2sh20FtPt1uytkhdo1_1280.jpg
aquentson: to the lost deluded brainwashed souls?
aquentson: to the corrupt?
BingoBoingo: Disinformation is the enemy. CCN lived high on Josh Garza's hog