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asciilifeform: 'will Quantum Computing be to Cyber warfare what Nuclear weapons have been to kinetic warfare? And if it is, how can the U.S. DoD establish a world-wide, non-proliferation security regime?'
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:24 mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/the-american-consumer-in-two-photos << CH - The American consumer, in two photos
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 01:16 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606170 << no, and i think it's a combination of "scaring" and complexity. takes a lot of effort to build one from scratch. clim's beach actually tried building one, SICL https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL which is closest to "compartmenalized", but i'm not sure where it is. probably heavy WIP stage. (and reading the ilc slides it seems like it's beach/mcclim style overengineered)
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606296 << SICL's status makes a lot more sense in-context: "It is intentionally divided into many implementation-independent modules that are written in a totally or near-totally portable way, so as to allow other implementations to incorporate these modules from SICL, rather than having to maintain their own, perhaps implementation-specific versions"
asciilifeform: eh the ancients had distractions of their own.
phf: it's also possible that the development cycle that involves basically no way to twitch (i.e. you're either hacking for 5 hours or gaming for 2 or you're on "trilema bbs" for 30 minutes) has something to do with it ;)
asciilifeform: optimization has to begin with sane evaluator design (e.g. appropriate use of the type bits, integrated numeric tower, cdr-coding)
phf: well, you can probably write an evaluator for lisp core (and host something like sicl on top), but the result is going to be dog slow, at which point you'll have to work out an optimization strategy that's not going to leave scaring. that's a long and careful project, an anathema in open source
ben_vulpes: you won't even taste the poop anymore. it's really nice...
asciilifeform: and the horse it rode in on.
asciilifeform: what i am asking is to dispense with the motherfucking cpp.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't really know what you're asking. his uses llvm-ir to tie into cpp, it's the ~whole point of it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: rather, what does the build chain look like in this example ?
asciilifeform: (i.e. the portion not written in 'itself')
asciilifeform: i can't really think of any excuse why the 'machine anchor' of common lisp HAS to be any bigger than, e.g., tinyscheme's
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606170 << no, and i think it's a combination of "scaring" and complexity. takes a lot of effort to build one from scratch. clim's beach actually tried building one, SICL https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL which is closest to "compartmenalized", but i'm not sure where it is. probably heavy WIP stage. (and reading the ilc slides it seems like it's beach/mcclim style overengineered)
trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry
ben_vulpes: by my read it's a small side thing they provide to get as much ops cognition to happen through their tooling as possible
asciilifeform: sooo wat's the catch
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 13:8 :: Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
danielpbarron: if you could find a NKJV to put in there, it would keep most things on a single line, but KJV is always 1 verse 1 line
ben_vulpes: "this is my domain. there are many like it, but this one is mine."
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
danielpbarron: i only have the one domain and it doesn't need changing so I rarely have to actually use the thing
ben_vulpes: aws console is very heavy on the javascript, but light on the ux
mats: the best part was watching fatties get yelled at and smoked for being unable to complete exercises
ben_vulpes: mats: ah well i can see how it'd be less than riveting then
mats: ben_vulpes: i grew up in the church, so... i lost count
mats: asciilifeform: a coupla hours per day were dedicated just to standing around waiting for shit to happen, ie, waiting for the cattle trucks to appear so they could shuttle recruits to the training sites
ben_vulpes: mats: how many times have you read the old testament?
asciilifeform: mats: they give'em time to read bibles?!!
mats: i went to all of the religious services - even the one for wiccans - to collect reading materials and sleep in the pews
mats: worst part was not having anything mentally stimulating to do, i had to ask people to send me books in the mail so i could read something besides labels on shampoo bottles and the fucking bible
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 22:11 danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606203 << There is only a daily repreive contingent on improving one's spiritual condition
mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then
asciilifeform: whatever they are -- they're pwnable, silently and cleanly, for probably quite a while.
mircea_popescu: moreover, they're inactive by definition.
mircea_popescu: there aren'ty 20mn professionally sad, you understand.
mircea_popescu: these are unrelated items.
asciilifeform: ~ubiquitous, among the Professionally Sad.
mircea_popescu: no fucking way. IF it has 20k users it's a wonder. and those 20k users are indians doing vaguely anal sexthings to each other.
asciilifeform: 'The extension uses nativeMessaging, so this magic string is enough for any website to execute arbitrary code (!!).'
asciilifeform: 'Cisco's WebEx extension (jlhmfgmfgeifomenelglieieghnjghma) has ~20M active users, and is part of Cisco's popular web conferencing software. The extension works on any URL that contains the magic pattern "cwcsf-nativemsg-iframe-43c85c0d-d633-af5e-c056-32dc7efc570b.html", which can be extracted from the extensions manifest. Note that the pattern can occur in an iframe, so there is not necessarily any user-visible indication of what is
deedbot: trinque rated BingoBoingo 1 << Ye shall know them by their memes.
danielpbarron: got a lot more unrates but maybe i'll keep those out of the chan as it's mostly just cleaning out names that i haven't seen in years
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of shinohai from 1 to 2 << Puts in the work
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 04:34 danielpbarron: http://www.atruechurch.info/aa.html >> A.A. admits they have no cure, but that's because they are under the delusion that there isn't one.
danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244
mircea_popescu: anyway, i thought aa people were very gingerly careful to not say they're a religion.
danielpbarron: she'll end up negative eventually, or maybe try to remedy the situation
danielpbarron: it fixed nothing. while drinking he hated the true God and while sober he hates the true God
ben_vulpes: by extension, the republic.
mircea_popescu: well ? chicks loyal to her son's father which didn't do much for her yet nevertheless bb shouldn't be allowed to like the club that fixed a problem for him ?
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes, giving benefit of doubt; she's being loyal to her son's father, should just be making the case in here rather than elsewhere
ben_vulpes: and in other news, trumpreich out of the tpp eh?
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of juliatourianski_ from 5 to 4 << Absence does not always make the heart grow fonder
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: and given as the good being sold is fundamentally chumpatronic, not mega-surprise.
asciilifeform: there is afaik no useful reason to migrate, dnsism is a straight 'strip mine' business model (lure in chumps, then turn scammer and fleece'em) afaik.
thestringpuller: everyone wants to use the comcast business model of annoying you out of your money
thestringpuller: namecheap has fallen to the bottom of the barrel. i only stay with them because the cost of migrating the domain is about the same as 3 years of having the domain...
mircea_popescu: namecheap.com, the world's biggest functiona ux ajax website, agreed to pay $randomnumber and admitted to being unable to safely store data even as idiots fucked around on the lone dnssec-mysql server.
trinque: the same happened to me; they then reverted me to a quite old version of them.
phf: or in the words of monkey dust "Hello, I'm Ivan Dobsky. I'm the Meatsafe Murderer, only I never done it. I only said I'd done so they'd take the jump cables off me testicles."
mircea_popescu: gotta pay for them f69s somehow
asciilifeform: s were helping scammers avoid detection, the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission said in statements.'
asciilifeform: 'Western Union Co, the world's biggest money-transfer company, agreed to pay $586 million and admitted to turning a blind eye as criminals used its service for money laundering and fraud, U.S. authorities said on Thursday. Western Union, which has over half a million locations in more than 200 countries, admitted "to aiding and abetting wire fraud" by allowing scammers to process transactions, even when the company realized its agent
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/W0FIQ << in other lulz. 'Western Union admits to aiding wire fraud, to pay $586 mln'
jhvh1: thestringpuller: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 919.98, Best ask: 919.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 919.99, 24 hour volume: 10491.57906088, 24 hour low: 910.01, 24 hour high: 928.87, 24 hour vwap: None
BingoBoingo: Also if nobodies are to be talked about, "Who they think they are" is helpful.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The peter jokes are good, but the mentioned peter's just aren't people enough.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: which nonsense. (traditionally) the handlers don't even let near the wheel, anybody who showed symptoms of having so much as latent ability to tell usg to pack it
mircea_popescu: you'd expect middle class middled aged white women are slightly above the nonsense, but i guess it's not the case for theresa may.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are they gonna do with the hardware ?
mircea_popescu: a nigger called theresa may misusing ancient and dysfunctional "nuclear weapons" is not substantially different from a nigger called antron singleton going from diner table to diner urinal with an antitank rocket launcher in each hand
mircea_popescu: myeah. what the fuck is with stupid people, keep picking deeply inadequate weapons ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: protecting own neck from the noose, as per http://qntra.net/2017/01/the-fourth-reich-grips-berlin
mircea_popescu: exactly what does theresa may imagine she's protecting and from whom ?
mircea_popescu: security from what ? the only enemy is already there ; and the only thing he'd ever do he's already doing, trading the 13yo not-yet-bloomed english roses like goats.
asciilifeform: that is the nature of the deterrent - it is about the security of this nation and I would fully support the prime minister in avoiding those questions," he said. A statement issued by Downing Street and the MoD said the capability and effectiveness of Trident was "unquestionable".'
asciilifeform: in other lulz: https://archive.is/THGQG >> 'Asked whether a missile had mis-fired, she said she was not going to get into "operational details" and would not say whether Mrs May had been told this. Questioned by the BBC's Andrew Marr on Sunday, Prime Minister Theresa May refused four times to say whether she had known about the test firing ahead of the vote. ... "There is a convention that we don't talk about the deterrent... because
BingoBoingo: There's a reason why it's the classic explanation
mircea_popescu: (the lulz here, for noobs, is that in classical medicine mental derangement was deemed a major driver of being fat)
mircea_popescu: in idle consideratons today : what are the odds random fat chick calls herself "unalocamas" ; and how do they stack against the odds random crazy chick calls herself "unagordamas"
jurov: kek "But the data from the mainframes was actually arriving in less than six milliseconds. The bottleneck was — of course — the Java application."
davout: "I designed it to hold one million dollars in cash, and that’s why it’s named The Getaway Duffel."
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-up-amazing-16-64-as-usual-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Up Amazing 16.64% (As Usual Another All Time High)
phf: apropos, http://btcbase.org/log/?nick=phf will highlight all the messages from and to nick (it's half baked, like it doesn't get preserved when you switch pages, but i have the logs bookmarked that way, so that i can see if i got mentioned at a glance)
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2017/01/now-go-and-get-your-money-lil-duffle-bag-boy/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Now Go and Get Your Money Lil Duffle Bag Boy
phf: "they don't come here" "we don't go there"
phf: i can kind of grok how my bethesda, maryland acquaintances didn't see it coming, but you live next door to blue collars, and you can't see it?
phf: these fucking people. so i've been traveling through red states past two years, and the sentiment was ~very~ clear. north carolina, south carolina, alaska, ohio, pennsylvania. shit, every other uber driver told me the same thing
BingoBoingo: "Why, then, I wondered, did he vote for him?"
BingoBoingo: lol, the butt stretch reverses https://archive.is/oWc52
mircea_popescu: idly going through older trilemas we come upon http://trilema.com/2014/agency-and-other-notes/#selection-181.0-178.2 wherein mp predicts "go doesn't have a decade left in it", in 2014.
Framedragger: well, maybe he treats his ipv4 assets the same way he treats outstanding paypal cents, i.e. something he may prefer to get rid of. :) but that was an uninformed assumption of mine
mircea_popescu: so talk to the spammers, buy a server farm setup with a few dozen ips and use it for your purpose purpose. as you won't get blacklisted nobody will give a shit. bout $50/ip/month is where the market is now, can readily bill your employer triple and if he won't pay ditch him on the spot.
Framedragger: (interestingly enough, very little movement in this area. not that i believe in "we'll disrupt the whole industri!!!" startupy nonsense.)
Framedragger: ah, i laboured under the assumption that small money is still money :p yeah i understand.
mircea_popescu: yes but i don't particularly want money nor am i interested in supporting non-tmsr anything. so there's no upside for me whatsoever.
Framedragger: if by chance you actually 'own' them in the sense of having your contact info there in ripe db, they can be 'transferred'. i haven't done it before tho so may be talking nonsense?
Framedragger: (ideally they'd be scattered around, not under single block)
Framedragger: hey mircea_popescu, you still got a bunch of ipv4 addresses available? are they under a single /16? i may be interested in purchasing/leasing them from you for a non-tmsr related project
mircea_popescu: i'm clubbing them one in current piece, also.
Framedragger: "Quora walked in to an investor meeting, stated these facts as plainly as I have, and walked out with a check for eighty million dollars. That's the power of investor storytime. "
Framedragger: "on in new funding at a $900 million valuation. Their stated reason for taking the money was to postpone having to think about revenue. "
Framedragger: quora is ~cancer in my books, and i have higher tolerance level than say alf. so that tells ya something :D but seriously, quora is a ridiculous site run by a ridiculous "company". to quote maciej / idlewords, "Quora's declared competitor is Wikipedia, a free site that not only doesn't make revenue, but loses so much money they have to ask for donations just to be broke. Recently, Quora raised $80 million in new funding at a $900 milli
mircea_popescu: 1.2mb css file. really ? 200kb FONT. not fonts. one. it loads multiple. why the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: quora page has been loading for > 20 seconds now, doing half a dozen post requests in tyhe process. what the fuck hayseeds must one have for brains to do a POST on page load holy shit, just build your pages correctly, there's absolutely no reason any webpage has to post without user interaction.
mircea_popescu: dude these "responsive" web 2.0 ajax site are a sad display.
Framedragger: (rehosted that particular post of his here: http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/vc-21-jan-2017.html i don't think he'll mind. apparently he took a vacation after they seized his equipment)
mircea_popescu: how the fuck they manage to go through that lengthy opus on "constitutional violations" without for a second stopping to point out that the ONLY reason this is possible is because THEY forced an idiot into the office because he happened to be mulatto is anyone's guess. seriously, nobody over at rolling stone notices this ? eight years of bahamas pissing on the constitution is what allows everyone else now to do the same ?
mircea_popescu: totally. it's not like "america" in the swj sense hasn't ever existed ; nor that rolling stone stopped mattering about the time mtv started airing. no, no, it's just that trump, thirty fucking years late to the party, "ruined" "things". what things ? the things hacks squatting an abandoned trade magazine hallucinated & confabulated into being, those things!
mircea_popescu: it's kind of funny to watch unintelligent narcissists observe their solipsist bubble popping. "oh the thing that didn't exist didn't exist and the random element which happened to pop it IS TO BLAME"
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/0jncM << the imaginary "america" in which rolling stone mag is still a thing, wounded most grievously.
Framedragger: news from vc, the cockmail and cockbox guy: https://vc.gg/blog/so-its-been-a-while.html
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/walks-among-the-congenitally-weird/ << Trilema - Walks among the congenitally weird.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-21 19:58 pete_dushenski: in other greats, trump is still using his personal twitter handle instead of '@potus', which has dropped from 13.1mn followers to 5.3mn in the last day. bots left with bahamas apparently.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-21#1605954 << i dunno, i've seen some engines that lost oil monthly and i didn't think they were all that perfect.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F204C464B3FDAEF7DA2D13BAEC63ED44D156F86F2668AB8046FE2F5F404B875E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1588...6029 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.88.100.71 (ssh-rsa key from 195.88.100.71 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (theknowledgevine.net. GB LIV ENG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F204C464B3FDAEF7DA2D13BAEC63ED44D156F86F2668AB8046FE2F5F404B875E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1656...4737 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.88.100.71 (ssh-rsa key from 195.88.100.71 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (theknowledgevine.net. GB LIV ENG)
pete_dushenski: in other greats, trump is still using his personal twitter handle instead of '@potus', which has dropped from 13.1mn followers to 5.3mn in the last day. bots left with bahamas apparently.
ben_vulpes: yeah, general thesis is bankrupt the state and hedge against success with bitcoin and old servers
pete_dushenski: unless you fancy yourself a better thief than your neighbours, in which case you'll still end up ahead. so i guess there's that.
pete_dushenski: that strategy only lasts for as long as you have wrc status or hard money escape hatch. otherwise you end up 'investing' in persian rugs and rusting peugeots because they hold their value better than the alternatives.
ben_vulpes: reduce taxes, increase the debt ceiling, pay for everyone to have everything fuckit #yolo
ben_vulpes: "i want a boat, are boats free?" "sure, baby! free boats!" "but what about the people who make the boats, shouldn't they get compensated for their labor?" "you mean their COERCED LABOR? in world of free, nobody works who doesn't want to work, and we all work for the joy of it!" "wait but then how do boats get made"
ben_vulpes: it can be a humorous bridge into the property rights thread
ben_vulpes: sex should be free is lulzy but you quickly veer into the "wait but most men aren't worth the lubrication"
pete_dushenski: or was that gender. i get them confuxed.
trinque: didn't the ancestors of those people have that one?
ben_vulpes: makes them very uncomfortable and they don't quite understand why.
trinque: oh right, you get a squirt of the minority juice I guess
ben_vulpes: but then a light bulb went out in a piece of hardware
pete_dushenski: because there's degrees of perfection, you see, it's not the absolute pinnacle in and of itself
pete_dushenski: lulzier because there's too many winninz out for them to be all paid. so there's a whole horde of hussies making signs and going hoarse... for free.
trinque: so I'm not gonna stop them
trinque: they'll stop when somebody makes 'em, like all things
pete_dushenski: wtf is this women's march bullshit. seriously. buncha herpyderpy broads had their chance to matter with bahamas and then with shillary. they can't actually believe that anyone cares anymore
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: couple other wh pages removed in addition to climate change. 'lbgt rights' also went poof. mega lulz.
mircea_popescu: The page on climate change was replaced with a page entitled “An America First Energy Plan” that ignores climate change entirely and says, “President Trump is committed to eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the U.S. rule.”
mircea_popescu: all email /me sent in the past 6 months or so, all dozen pieces of it or thereabouts went out from dtrump@whitehouse.gov
mircea_popescu: i really dunno that it matters either way. who the fuck even uses email anymore.
asciilifeform: one one hand 'hero', on other hand he is the kind of 'hero' who creates the disaster to 'rescue' from in the first place.
mircea_popescu: where it came out the fbi no longer can acquire the skills of a qualified typist for half a day at any price
asciilifeform: i also do not know him. aside from the trial, with the 4pt key, yes.
mircea_popescu: this is the one with the 4pt font key is he ?
mircea_popescu: more or less. i dunno the guy so i dunno reason,
asciilifeform: about as remarkable as apple's 'loud refusal' in the iphone case.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever used it. anyway, run of the mill email provider, remarkable because loud refusal to hand over cert keys or some such
asciilifeform: 'crypto for the common man' etc. is a leper's bell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall how the original worked.
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck gives out phds in "cryptology". is that even a field ?
asciilifeform: 'Today, the democratic power we transfer to keep identities safe is our own. '
asciilifeform: silent, automated rsatrons, in any way shape or form, especially 'end-to-end secure, yet flexible enough to allow users to continue using their email without a Ph.D. in cryptology.' is...
a111: Logged on 2017-01-21 14:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the problem with the lavabit relaunch anyway ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-21#1605905 << the original concept (one box is pwned by usg, everybody dies) was borderline retarded. and the text of the 'reloaded' pitch, underscores this
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> srsly, the official dyi kit of the mexican footbal team ? who the everloving came up with this. << The bigger point is that company found appealing to Mexicans in America was worth alientating the other demographics. The lulz.
mircea_popescu: netmonk omg wtf who the fuck will "drop a binary executable in his path".
mircea_popescu: and why do they keep trying to peddle these idiotic battery powered shits. "half hour recharge". bitch... just put a cord on it wtf, 0.3 microsecond recharge on that one
mircea_popescu: srsly, the official dyi kit of the mexican footbal team ? who the everloving came up with this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the problem with the lavabit relaunch anyway ?
mircea_popescu: i take it you missed the candi_lustt festivities netmonk ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: 108.31.170.49 for quite a while now
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: couldn't seem to find current zoolag ip in logs. only managed to find `72.82.9.184` as the last known IP
mircea_popescu: and what is with all these peasant feet anyway. they don't have heels where these women live ?
mircea_popescu: more disturbingly, the rightmost pair looks ~12.
ben_vulpes: more vaseline on the lens, and focal point closer to the lens at the very least. ideally some vignetting and maybe a bottle of hairspray in the background?
trinque: hell I dunno man, but I'm sure it's not off in the shadows to the side
mircea_popescu: what's with the hens and where are the feet ?!
shinohai: didn't thestringpuller tell me she was a perv?
trinque: what the fuck people
mircea_popescu: gotta say also the most sideways erection i ever saw. you got a homing head or what
mircea_popescu: it's way the fuck easier to work than pyrex, and altogether better in all respects.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, silver is bactericide. for the other thing, there's a very satisfying weight. for the third thing ~you keep it clean~. gives cunt a sense of purpose and accomplishment. for the other thing, it correlates sizew with worth in a very strong relationship on a very human-convenient curve.
mircea_popescu: im kind-of surprised they haven't yet come to the obvious sensible thing that is the silver dildo.
phf: well if the goal is to get bots to do something automatically, then we can have explicit, message based coordination model (eggdrop used messages and DCC to coordinate for example) no reason to "trust freenode". i prefer the lords explicitly switch the knobs approach though
mircea_popescu: other than saddle both of you with maintaining a hb model ?
scriba: Logged on 2017-01-20: [19:06:43] <Framedragger> scriba could track all a111 responses to btcbase urls, and if after $time there's no response, give response of its own. but this is the "easy to make things look horrible" part
phf: there's also a hidden endpoint that somebody asked for (shinohai?) that lets you download log lines in kako format since some timestamp
phf: yeah, the folder where logs are stored are exposed to public, i don't remember what the url is though, i'll have to check later
mircea_popescu: yeah iirc there was a backup interface. in any case should be standard in logotrons
phf: Framedragger: instead of crawling the logs it's much easier to just ask me for the textual dump that i use for storage (it's the same format as what kako used)
phf: i apologize for the bot, not sure what's going on (i guess i'm overdue for a crash) and i won't have access to machine for another four hours or so :/
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i'm watching these two crows hassling a raptor out over the river
thestringpuller: Framedragger: You're the first person I know who is meh about The Who. Either people hate them or love them. Kinda like the eagles...well not at all like the eagles.
asciilifeform: 'Flights full of women are marking their way to Washington, D.C. for the Women's March on Washington. On social media Friday, many people tweeted photos of airplanes predominantly filled with women on their way to D.C. The Women's March, which was planned to demonstrate solidarity following the election of Donald Trump, will take place on Saturday in D.C., and sister marches are planned for all 50 states and in 32 countries around t
Framedragger: the xref thing as phf calls them. when one log line references another, and btcbase adds hyperlinks to jump between the references
mircea_popescu: the who ?
Framedragger: (overkill if you say don't need the log-internal line reference thing in btcbase)
mircea_popescu: ah and there is of course also adding search, if you want a large bite :D
scriba: Logged on 2017-01-08: [15:22:41] <mircea_popescu> ( Framedragger and if you work on it, moving away from the "<name> " to the bolded-name-colon convention would also be very nice.
Framedragger: yes you did, and rather clearly iirc
mircea_popescu: at least i think i put them in teh log at some point, i forget
mircea_popescu: Framedragger if you wanna tinker with log, there's a list of things
mircea_popescu: nobody forces anyone to use one reference system in preference of the other, neh ? use whichever has bot live if you're interested in readout.
mircea_popescu: if i say http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170104/#249 then scriba reads, if i say http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-16#1603680 then a111 reads, if present\
Framedragger: i mean, making bots read each other's reference seems like an ad-hoc solution, just that.
mircea_popescu: which still is the actually sane approach, people aren't happy with silent bot can use the other reference.
mircea_popescu: of course iirc the discussion last time was that "let each bot read HIS OWN logs"
Framedragger: a switch which can be operated by bot operator + l1 makes sense, then? (note, to avoid the whole "don't trust freenode to keep stateful maps", it'd have to do the challenge-response thing, which would be fun to do anyway on my part)
trinque: manual switch would be the sane approach indeed
Framedragger: scriba could track all a111 responses to btcbase urls, and if after $time there's no response, give response of its own. but this is the "easy to make things look horrible" part
trinque: but as a general principle when the underlying thing is broken, it is a sin to let something above collect hair to "fix" it
Framedragger: (doing http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596266 is possible btw, if it's worth the effort?)
scriba: Logged on 2017-01-20: [18:31:14] <asciilifeform> '1:09 p.m.: The Whlte House climate change page is gone.'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: zoolag
shinohai: "Defendent immediately asked to work in the Prison Laundry"
thestringpuller: is there any live TRB node that isn't blackholed right nao?!?
asciilifeform: '1:09 p.m.: The Whlte House climate change page is gone.'
mircea_popescu: "that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will"
asciilifeform: e assured restaurant owners that they would be well within their rights to “choose not to serve neo-Nazis” or the racist “alt-right” group that seeks a white-only state because they are not political parties with registered voters.'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/euCva << 'The DC Human Rights Act makes it illegal to discriminate against more groups than are protected under federal law. Protected classes in Washington include not only race, religion and sex, but political affiliation as well. “Right off the bat people are asking if we deny the so-called 'alt-right,' and they are held out to be Trump supporters, are we denying based on political affiliation?” Rome said. H
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
danielpbarron: what's the bet?
davout: do you guys see me part and join the chan? looks like my bouncer or my client is losing some messages
davout: asciilifeform: "In the realm of BDSM, a paypig is a submissive, almost always male, who has consented to financial servitude towards his Mistress. Term used in a derogatory/humiliating light, usually by Mistresses."
davout: in the meantime the indiancandy chick is apparently trying to recruit paypigs on twitter, doesn't seem to be working out that well
asciilifeform: '...washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth... the factories closed... the establishment protected itself...'
trinque: seen the current south park season? that's his stank face
mircea_popescu: it's as if the software never actually fails ; but it's always deliberately subverted
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't it notable how ~none of these fail to share both factors ?
shinohai: The Michelle Obama sneer was hilarious as well
trinque: dat clinton sneer. I hope there are many butthurt shots today.
mircea_popescu: actually he may find that the district of niggers makes a point of pride out of their ignorance & lazyness, and equate these with democracy and their dismantling with you know, racism, rape, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: in the lol of the day, "Trump, who's accustomed to completing projects "on time and under budget," will try to bring an unfamiliar business discipline to the nation's capital. He may find that Washington is not as nimble or responsive to orders from the chief executive as his family-run business" (npr)
asciilifeform: pretty strange, the official camera blurred out the nametags of the guards
davout: trinque: not on my box, on the servers i rent
mircea_popescu: (the official line btw is that "the polls weren't off by much, because clinton got 2% of popular vote vs 4-5% predicted". supposedly incredible ineptitude on an unseen-before scale is to be pivoted into "we're still right, smart and the icons of humanity ; the electoral system is rigged" and this'll somehow fly because the democrat voting bloc doesn't form memories for longer than half a week and nobody else properly speaking
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "i've been an activist all my life" womenz of unchristian first names movement (WUFNM) flailings are getting pretty unreadable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: normally they use buses
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