mircea_popescu: trb-shiva should be trb-shiva ; if shiva-genesis also exists nothing is hurt thereby.
mod6: both of these have all inputs as 'false' -- hard for the code to tell which should be witch at face value without something "and it has at least one descendant"
mircea_popescu: but an important point here i must stress is the COGNITIVE LOAD of a v tree. these aren't mechanical "oh, it changed x file so it goes with x". you think, as the author, and exactly in the manner of scoring wot members : what should this item be anchored on ?
asciilifeform: hence the choice
mircea_popescu: all patches to trb tree must refer to an antecedent in the trb tree. no exceptions. if "nothing comes to mind", genesis is a fine default.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> either it builds in its own independent tree, or else it declares an antecedent in the trb tree. << so in the latter part here, should my 'foobar.vpatch' that just adds one file without any antecedents or descendants actually inherit an antecedent, in this case 'genesis.vpatch' ? just trying to understand ...
asciilifeform: i can easily picture, e.g., FUCKGOATS, staying in that shape for the rest of eternity.
mircea_popescu: the criteria for root/leaf are the same : anything false, root. anything non-false, leaf.
mircea_popescu: the latter dun exactly make it a leaf tho
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: wtf means 'root and leaf at the same time' << in the old code, it is a root, because it has no antecedents, and it is a leaf because it also has no descendants.
mod6: ok i guess that would be bad in the sense that "i'm just staring this project, my genesis should be a root even though nothing descends it yet..."
asciilifeform: the way, e.g., FUCKGOATS-genesis, is today.
asciilifeform: mod6: consider the time when genesis alone existed.
mod6: ok, so that's basically what I was wondering. to be designated a proper 'root', do we also add the criteria of "must have an actual proper decendant"
asciilifeform: these are definitionally separate things
asciilifeform: mod6: wtf means 'root and leaf at the same time'
mircea_popescu: either it builds in its own independent tree, or else it declares an antecedent in the trb tree.
mod6: so in the case of my previous implementation (V99995), these island-roots would simply endup at the end of the flow, as a leaf. as they are both a root and a leaf at the same time.
asciilifeform: but they work fine in my vtron.
mod6: Say that we have a flow, like trb, with all sorts of vpatches that stem from one single root. where that root is designated as a 'root' because all of its inputs are 'false'. what should happen with a vpatch that, for instance, just adds a file to the source and has no antecedents, nor decendants.
asciilifeform: 'Morales had no rope. And no fingers. He had a ten-foot length of bandage. And brass balls. Somehow, this dude with no fingers lowers himself from the window on the bandage. It snaps. Morales falls 20 feet onto an air conditioner, then another 20 feet to the ground. Injured, but alive. The Family and FALN whisk him away.' << first-class.
mircea_popescu: yes i'm aware that forcibly works and their own heads don't. so ?
asciilifeform: they ask 'can i get away with being idiot'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider ben_vulpes 's latest article. the choice is very clearly available ; the sort of mind who nevertheless opts for idiocy truly deserves it.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a spiffy mircea_popescu article about the costs of letting 'harmless' idiots live (makes idiocy seem acceptable)
mircea_popescu: not even that. i don't perceive they're actually hurting. yes they're fucking up the lives of idiots. so ?
mircea_popescu: and this isn't just re derpy "democratic" forum or herpy "free" sexploitatation venue. this applies to the fucking guardian, or to wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: takes me all of half an hour to organize a 10% chargeback pile, which is the immediate end, for isntance.
asciilifeform: aaah them
mircea_popescu: nothing easier than to turn off cc processing for one of these "website businesses"
mircea_popescu clearly recalls that when i showed somethingawful.com the cat they immediately stfu and ran away.
mircea_popescu: heh. they should have thought of THAT before being annoying.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 23:42 ben_vulpes: in other gabriel_laddel comments that have babe army swooning: https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 18:30 ben_vulpes: http://pastebin.com/FFSQUML9 << the fiat noose tightens
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what's the "everything should be free" thing ?
mircea_popescu: broken shit is what you get when you don't let the "overly agresive Alphas" beat shithead manning into a bloody pulp.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 22:32 asciilifeform: broken searches are nearly always a result of some pathetic piece of shit trying to 'be clever'.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 22:22 ben_vulpes: WHAT i ask you IS THE POINT of an ultra-heavy IDE that a) cannot tell me where the protocol breakage is during a refactor much less what to do about it b) has a project search SO MISERABLY BAD that a man must revert to grep in order to find ANYTHING
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606735 << i don't think anyone ever held that xcode is either functional or useful. apple likes it because it's tm and that's about it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606728 << i don't readily perceive the difference between these two cases ; outside of "if girls are thirsty they're still stupid whereas if i need to shit i know where the wc is."
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 20:59 asciilifeform: 'Why haven't you embraced Bitcoin to get away from the restrictions of the banks / credit card companies? - We used to accept bitcoins through Coinbase. They dropped us a year ago because we are a kinky site. No joke.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606720 << this pretty much sums up the idiocy of those people.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 20:55 asciilifeform: wtf is the point of making umpteenth centralized arsebook.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606714 << was briefly discussed at the time ; if you recall the spec wasn't for centralization.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes first mentioned (ever! in history!) here : http://trilema.com/2017/my-ai-problems-a-humble-confession/#comment-121007 then referenced in http://trilema.com/2017/dupa-dealuri/#comment-121112 and http://trilema.com/2017/how-to-deal-with-little-girls/#comment-121192
ben_vulpes: in other gabriel_laddel comments that have babe army swooning: https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
ben_vulpes: also phf may i please have the log backups?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: posix regexes work, i'll see what the performance implications are of using those instead.
asciilifeform: (and what exactly other choices do you have if all of your thing lives in pg)
ben_vulpes: postgres full text search; "some pathetic piece of shit trying to be clever"
asciilifeform: (and the occasional literate d00d, e.g., phf, naively making use of a library written by 'clever' peopel)
asciilifeform: broken searches are nearly always a result of some pathetic piece of shit trying to 'be clever'.
asciilifeform: and grep is ~there~
ben_vulpes: WHAT i ask you IS THE POINT of an ultra-heavy IDE that a) cannot tell me where the protocol breakage is during a refactor much less what to do about it b) has a project search SO MISERABLY BAD that a man must revert to grep in order to find ANYTHING
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 21:44 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606341 << optimization strategy is when you have a slow algorithm somewhere in your architecture (you put it there because it was a reasonable tradeoff at the point), but you can replace it with a faster algorithm without leaving too much damage on the architecture (alf calls it "scaring")
ben_vulpes: ugh mircea_popescu how do i find the qualia thread in your blog
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606341 << optimization strategy is when you have a slow algorithm somewhere in your architecture (you put it there because it was a reasonable tradeoff at the point), but you can replace it with a faster algorithm without leaving too much damage on the architecture (alf calls it "scaring")
asciilifeform: 'Why haven't you embraced Bitcoin to get away from the restrictions of the banks / credit card companies? - We used to accept bitcoins through Coinbase. They dropped us a year ago because we are a kinky site. No joke.'
asciilifeform: 'Let's say we move our servers to the newly formed country of Fetopia. The US, UK, Australia, Germany, etc. can still make it difficult for people within their countries' borders to access FetLife. I don't think we would do the community a favor by making FetLife harder to access.'
asciilifeform: 'Historically we've sided more with individual members needs, but what we've learned from recent events is that we need to start putting more weight on the safety of the community, FetLife, and the team behind FetLife - including my personal safety.' << most cowards have at least the virtue of stfu-ing
asciilifeform: wtf is the point of making umpteenth centralized arsebook.
ben_vulpes: YOUR PERVERSE THOUGHTS MARK YOU FOR THE GULAG
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is interesting, at one point it was possible to source pre-2012 opteron mb quite cheaply, now they are ~gone
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: also "perform backups and regularly restore from them"
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform's main comp has finally released magic smoke.
mircea_popescu: too bad she only blesses people wearing the blessed crocs.
mircea_popescu: it does contain THE WORD dunnit ?
phf: http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-commentary/commentary/archive/the-truth-about-greenpeace-and-whaling.html
phf: there's this anti-japanese-whaling direct action guy, who got kicked out of greenpiece in the early 2000s for too much direct actioning
mircea_popescu recalls a time in the 90s... concidentally at the time the world was last great i was too young to care much about women.
asciilifeform: i suppose ~everything~ went to shit while i slept in the cave. even this.
mircea_popescu: in the 80s
asciilifeform: about same diff as the famous banana
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe they even get laid.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://archive.is/j41JR >> 'A group of at least seven protesters, apparently with Greenpeace, are scaling a crane in downtown Washington DC in protest at US President Donald Trump. ... the protesters unfurled a 35ft by 75ft banner reading “Resist,” 270ft above the ground. '
mircea_popescu: whatever the thing which goes "your money has no value here"
asciilifeform: the usg ministry of radio ?
mircea_popescu: this is ~why fcc-like authorities exist. to forbid the usg to buy and derp like this.
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit is that soft-warehouse (makers of subj, and one-time mega-monopoly, they made the only good lisp for msdos pc) was bought by ti and put in a hole, and cement poured.
mircea_popescu: ie, yes the case is "reasonable likelihood of confusion", but no this does not mean 'don't use the word'.
mircea_popescu: schmucks don't own the ~word~ "derive".
asciilifeform: changed by adding other words to `Derive', nor by your belief that the word `derive' is an accurate description, using the correct terminology, of the purpose of the software. In pursuit of your academic research project, please rename your software to avoid using `Derive' or any other word that might cause a reasonable likelihood of confusion with `Derive''
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/DrIFT/original/History.html >> 'You asked whether naming your software `Haskell Derive' would be satisfactory, and you explained your reasoning for wishing to adopt that name. We believe that we understand your reasoning, but the critical point is that including `Derive' as part of your software's name in *any* manner is not permissible. That fact is not
mircea_popescu: i deemed myselg well informed by the nonfakenews outlets.
asciilifeform: 'A failure in the data communications system of the US-made weapon system has been blamed. Lockheed Martin, based in Maryland, builds and maintains the missiles.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'US urged Britain to keep Trident blunder secret. Obama administration ‘feared missile failure put American nuclear deterrent at risk’.'
asciilifeform: the hardware is so monumentally idiot that even ~emulator~ behaviour is nonstandardized, even between versions of same emulator.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly: in re the metal lisp thread: http://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilOS << i could not get this to boot. but it is ~exactly what i had in mind (i'd much prefer that it be with a scheme, rather than a crackpot dynamically-scoped 1970s lisp, but the idea is illustrative)
asciilifeform: i always suspected that the glass doors are a kind of 'fuse'
trinque: why indeed. they're obedient creatures and this they're told is of the category of "fancy shit you can bolt to the side of" your house
asciilifeform: why these are built, i cannot say. i suppose americans believe that theft is part of the great circle of life, and burglars are also people, and Need to Eat, etc.
asciilifeform: for bonus penetrability, typical american dwelling also has ~massive~ glass door (often, double-width) in the rear.
asciilifeform: phf: the reason why american doors are what they are, is that the house is made of ~cardboard
mircea_popescu: phf nah, the idea is you get exactly like current, "security door" except the half inch steel sheet is on the inside, then 3 claymores stacked, then a thin al profile on the outside facing. have a shock detector modeled on 90% of the kinetic delivery of the standard issue us invasion corps battering ram.
phf: hmm, i can't recall anyone doing it in the 90s. i think this is a uniquely american problem though, where you can't trust frame to hold the door in place. traditional solution is to simply put the door on welded frame inside a concrete hole, so you will need something better than a claymore to dislodge it
asciilifeform: (ever have car alarm? it never went off from the wind?)
asciilifeform: i suspect that all of the folx who did this , are resting in peace/pieces
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda surprised nobody does the claymore security door thing. "if you shock this door... nice knowing you."
trinque: whatever, they love to sit there and piss about importantly on the phone with 300 people surrounding
mircea_popescu: specificity of diddling again applies. just as long as your response is not categorically identifiable, the empire is stuck in the one place it hates.
asciilifeform: (btw usg luuuuvvvs self-immolators, they cut down on paperwork)
mircea_popescu: ~nothing easier in the world than making a team of us experts shit their pants and spend the rest of the day loitering waiting for "the conversation" to happen.
mircea_popescu: and you're wrong, a claymore going off in response to a hammering of the door will postpone the raid by HOURS
asciilifeform: i don't build jets. but i do live deep behind enemy lines, and will have -- if lucky -- about 5 seconds of time to pull the pin when the door breaks down.
mircea_popescu: you're not building fighters therefore the "other broken parts of the whole process" have been identified and disposed of.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well no, problem not solved, the pieces on the ground can easily have residue of key, if the zapper is mechanically damaged before it can finish zapping.
asciilifeform: hey i don't build fusion reactors either.
asciilifeform: where the thing is breaking apart in the air, and potentially on quick collision course with ground
asciilifeform: the key zap in a fighter jet
mircea_popescu: my thought was more along the lines of "if the difference between a second and a minute has a practical effect, there are other broken parts of the whole process that need fixing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform really, the "not time" is no considerent.
asciilifeform: you want a zap that cannot be cancelled, even by mechanically separating the 'zapper' from the payload with explosive.
phf: (just as long as the final device looks like this http://museumofmagneticsoundrecording.org/images/R2R/WebsterChicago78a.jpg )
asciilifeform: ideal eraser is probably a 'belt and suspenders' approach, where the wire is pulled through neodymium magnet (with hand crank backup) but meanwhile a pancake magnet is lowered onto the spool (for rapid, though imperfect, erase, in case there is not time to wind the entire tape) and at the same time current is run through the steel wire, if a current source is available.
asciilifeform: thermite already exists. but there are distinct advantages to non-pyrotechnic key zapping.
asciilifeform: (finishing touch on the otp subthread : the mega-virtue of steel wire vs magnetic tape, is that you can heat it to its curie point for rapid-zapping, without creating smoking, melted mess. so good emergency erase -- just put current through the spool.)
mircea_popescu: "Jump forward to 2030, give them the benefit, and assume that Beijing can securely distribute quantum encryption keys that cannot be broken. Can they guarantee that by 2030 their average Soldier will be any less susceptible to phishing attacks and wont click on links embedded in unsolicited emails?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, it's what they picked for 'how to deal with pgp'
mircea_popescu: "oh, if the chinese do qke, the us army will... have to find a way to diddle all keys in subatomic transit"
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/IkPjo#selection-417.364-421.293 << direct link to the butthurt in question
asciilifeform: even the humble steel wire recorder, ancestor of magnetophone, could easily come back as a practical thing.
asciilifeform: (there is no conceivable reason to put otp on expensive, non-disposable random-access disks, other than not having anything better)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not discussing practical utility, merely that it makes sense from a technical perspective. unlike the other thing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re qc, bonus lulz for the huy-guy : so the chinese are trying to do it over satellites, because currently it's been demonstrated over much shorter distances. and the dod bright lightbulb (seriously, he is probably the smartest guy there, seeing how he has a blog) went "oh, this would allow safe key transfer, well tell you what, the army could DoS the system!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'quantum communication' is golden toilet nonsense, for the cost of building the link, you can perma-sync a thousand years of OTP.
mircea_popescu: yes, but that didn't enter into the above.
asciilifeform: i'll point out, largely for n00bz, that we do not in fact know whether breaking rsa is hard.
mircea_popescu: and this includes situations 100k years in the future where qc ie quantum communication is actually used. computing, not so much, for the ~same reasons.
mircea_popescu: in that sense i propose the MP Certainty, which says that it will NEVER happen. ie, at no point in the history of humanity will it be cheaper to break rsa through "quantum computing" than through electronic computing.
asciilifeform: and are quite content to fund random stabs in the dark, or even outright charlatans
asciilifeform: but politically the situation has an obscenely close resemblance to alchemy
mircea_popescu: i dunno how to meaningfully discuss it in terms of time, but i am willing to bet anything that the leap between $current-situation and $quantum-computing is larger not just than the alchemy-to-cyclotron gap, but actually larger than all extant science.
asciilifeform: as for 'how to even know whether it works', that one's easy. qc is strictly a wunderwaffen for breaking rsa. if it breaks rsa -- it worx. otherwise, not.
mircea_popescu: for the same money "we have" the process whereby glass can be rendered transparent or opaque through recrystalization
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how exactly do you propose the spin valve is related to the "qubits" business ?
asciilifeform: nobody invents alchemy when there 'are no tools.' alchemies happen when you got the tools, but not the knowing-wtf-you-are-doing
mircea_popescu: because no, excitation levels aren't "quantum" in the sense contemplated here.
mircea_popescu: there isn't even a measuring tool ; we have nfi if any observed effect is even anything.
asciilifeform: NO tools << e.g., spin valve, exists. there's one in your hdd.
mircea_popescu: we even have a multitude of strong statements of impossibility all converging towards a hearty "fuck you" located at the core of this concept
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the problem with quantum computing is in the fucking name. we have NO tools to do quantum work with. none. we've never heard of one existing, we can't conceive how one'd even work, if it did, which it doesn't, because it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i hold they are not, for the following reason : the nonsense of contained cold fusion rests on mechanical problems, ie, the plasma expands and therefore cools too fast. at least we have SOME TOOLS to do mechanical work with. like you know, a fulcrum. perhaps the plasma could be put in a fulcrum somehow ? or maybe with cogs ? dunno, should at least investigate.
asciilifeform: dunno, some of the fusion concepts come close.
asciilifeform: it's a screamingly single-purpose (hypothetical) mechanism.
mircea_popescu: really, bitch, they're gonna do what you want ? because why.
mircea_popescu: the notion of "quantum computing" is possibly the most idiotic thing on the table today.
asciilifeform: usg really, really wants the wunderwaffen.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 06:09 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606239 << d00d has some rather surreal 'thousand year usg reich' wtf, e.g., https://huwieler.net/2015/10/30/quantum-cyber-warfare-the-defense-policy-we-dont-have-but-should/
mircea_popescu: you've not been following along, there's a department of us army intelligentsia which is putting together an anally insertable quantum computer out of 2T and 0.001 kelvin
asciilifeform: is this the sr dope testing crackpottery again..?
asciilifeform: who the hell needed a konsoomer nmr magnet again?!
mircea_popescu: dude huy-something from the us-still-thinks-it-matters dept told me ima get it in my wristwatch!
asciilifeform: if i had to guess the actual unit cost, i'd put it at couple of hundy.
mircea_popescu: so how much is one of these 5T itemz ?
asciilifeform: (i cannot speak for folx living in other monkeystans, but over here even shoelaces will remain available strictly while-china-ships)
asciilifeform: it's an off the shelf thing, go an' buy as many as you like.
mircea_popescu: some other empire will have to do that, this one seems to cap out at plastic 200W electric driller
mircea_popescu: i thought the alloy perma ones do about .5
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yXziR << excelent diagnosis piece as to how the chanting hordes of the blue state managed to fuck up things wrt munitions. it's a fine complement to http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/#selection-113.485-113.615
mircea_popescu: ok, ok, i'm done befouling the logs. such insanity.
mircea_popescu: ode, design, and technical datum would likely be further controlled by classification at the TOP SECRET level with some kind of Alternate Compensatory Control Measure specific to QC and QCW."
mircea_popescu: AI to power unauthorized access against foreign state and non-state actors, then both code and design could be interpreted as defense items. Then it could fall under Title 50 of US Code, appear on the United States Munitions List, Category XVII (Classified Articles, Technical Data, and Defense Services Not Otherwise Enumerated) and therefore be subject the Arms Export Control Act. Once under DoD control those examples of QC c
mircea_popescu: "Currently, one mechanism the DoD has at its disposal domestically is Department of Homeland Security Presidential Directive 7 (protecting infrastructure deemed critical to National Security). If the most immediate application of QC is harvesting foreign government secrets by breaking intercepted data of its classical encryption then the QCD itself clearly falls under HSPD 7. Another option is that if QC were to be used with
mircea_popescu: anyway, check him out, everyone wants his porn industry to be "the reliable bridge" between "pure STEM R&D" and "free market consumerism". everyone's a tindr, getting the weird shy boys in the slimy wet bed of expectant females, dontchakno. hurr durr an' a bottle o' dross.
mircea_popescu: as a bonus, ofcourse, hitachi pretty much owns neodymium magnets, and china pretty much owns everything to do with all the other rare earths also.
mircea_popescu: (the "strongest magnet in teh werld" title goes to something in the 20-30 T range ; it cost millions to build, it takes six oxen to drag around so on)
mircea_popescu: but jay b huwieler ain't got no time to read the fucking article he's linked the (horrible) summary of, nor to understand wtf maintaining a 2T field costs, or for that matter milikelvin temperatures. fuck that, "now ensures that existing manufacturing facilities and processes can be more-easily upgraded to mass-produce quantum computational devices (QCD), in turn ostensibly reducing the time-to-market estimate for enterprise
mircea_popescu: principally what it does is that it requires intricate production and then to be kept < 0.001 kelvin and such wonders.
mircea_popescu: anyway, https://archive.is/0yq1G is the actual published item if anyone cares. tl;dr : dorks aware of which side bread is buttered created a silicone lattice with captive phosphorus on a plane, put wires on top and bottom and can now pump electrons into the so captured phosphorus. this DOES SOMETHING (tm).
mircea_popescu: this comes from phys.org by the way, if anyone was about to take that mfa seriously.
mircea_popescu: "In the team's conceptual design, they have moved from a one-dimensional array of qubits, positioned along a single line, to a two-dimensional array, positioned on a plane that is far more tolerant to errors. This qubit layer is "sandwiched" in a three-dimensional architecture, between two layers of wires arranged in a grid."
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna bet the only time we'll ever hear of any of those involved is when either the youthful dorks finally obtain the coveted (if meaningless) SCIENTIA title, or else when the two older farmhand looking idiots finally get their scientia-cum-laurels-and-hitler's-own-dinerfork-buttplug certificates ?
mircea_popescu: "The great thing about this work, and architecture, is that it gives us an endpoint. We now know exactly what we need to do in the international race to get there." << the international race! endpoint!
mircea_popescu: "From left to right Dr Matthew House, Sam Hile (seated), Scientia Professor Sven Rogge and Scientia Professor Michelle Simmons of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Quantum Computation and Communication Technology at UNSW. Credit: Deb Smith, UNSW Australia" << fucking imagine that.
mircea_popescu: silicone is used in electronics because of specific properties of its crystal lattice (it acts as a good substrate for dopants, resulting in nonlinear circuit elements). there's exactly nothing that recommends it over something like aerogel, or someone's stained tie, for the purpose of "quantum computing"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this pass someone's filter ? so the dorks trying to push a scam decided the one thing that'd best improve the flavour of credibility would be spurious relation to existing practice, so now it's SILICON quantum computers, and you buy this, and even underline it of your own volition, as if it were a thing just because you wish it to be ?
mircea_popescu: "While the last two decades have seen unambiguous experimental progress developing the science of Quantum Computation, there has never been a feasible, physical architecture developed upon which to scale-up the actual Computer itself. Not until today. Further, the success of specifically a ~silicon~ chip architecture now ensures that existing manufacturing facilities and processes can be more-easily upgraded" (emphasis his).
mircea_popescu: "October 2015, scientists at the University of New South Wales announced the successful design of a single-atom qubit 3D silicon chip architecture, making significant progress toward building a full-scale, operational Quantum Computer."
mircea_popescu: anyway in other news it seems historical necessity is prevailing, trump is gonna forge an alliance with russia over everyone's objections.
mircea_popescu: depends on the women.
trinque: the hell's this guy talking about, cursive text? nicknaem, you need to go spend some time on a ranch chopping off chicken heads / slitting pig throats or something http://trilema.com/2017/how-to-deal-with-little-girls/#selection-141.1143-141.1263
mircea_popescu: if i had to order out in this shithole i'd have shot someone. did i ever tell you about the "sushi ya!" order which showed up THREE HOURS later ? idiots were VERY surprised nobody's taking their bs.
mircea_popescu slathers even more beouf salad on top of lovingly homemade sourdough. you know that's real mayo, made by hand out eggs yes ? and that the womenz cook every day or else there's terrible consequences ? o look, there's half a pot of delicious soup! maybe i'll order some pie. which means - i say make pie, they make pie.
mircea_popescu: now we understand how the pacific islanders invented what later came to be known as us sizes.
davout: usually ends up in their fucking fried noodles
davout: protip if one ever tries to order food there: ask what they have, don't waste your time trying to order fancy shit like "a burger", "a wrap" or any other nonsense
davout: "we don't have", "there's non"
davout: most useful word of the kreol morisyen language: "pena"
ben_vulpes: and with that i'm going back to the rocket stove
ben_vulpes: even has search, although a very naive postgres full-text, not the "omfg exactly like grep" asciilifeform made phf build
davout: looks like the log's not werking
mircea_popescu: there you go nicknaem
mircea_popescu: rather than dribble it in chat.
mircea_popescu: well if you're patient enough im penning a reply to your latest comment so we can continue from there
nicknaem: i dont hate the world though
nicknaem: so there is some truth in it
nicknaem: I must say, the not naming myself thing kind of got under my skin
ben_vulpes: eheh in other dependent hacks, dog wanted to destroy things the child was throwing, so i gave the child a lemon to throw around. dog will chase, but not retrieve the lemon.
mircea_popescu: heh not the first time someone lies on exploit analysis
asciilifeform: was silently fixed in the upstream git.. The analysis says that is a "possible DoS", but its a local root exploit...'
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't live there, so...
ben_vulpes: based on historical record alone it is very unlikely but i put the chances that mircea_popescu dramatically underestimates the scale and scope of insanity running amok in the states at ~5%
mircea_popescu: the way things shape up, this current nazism is actually a lot more insane than the original german version. holy shit, what, you want to kill ~men~ ?!
mircea_popescu: irrespective of the considerations pof the case, what remais is that random "intelligence analyst" thinks army should be dedicated to the rooting out of manhood.
asciilifeform: hey it's how they abolished conscription. put folx from unemployment queue in uniform.
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder, a new model army of old strippers and youthful gramas, dedicated to the global fight against the tribe of 6 foot 2 "overly" aggressive Alpha males pumping testosterone out their pores.
mircea_popescu: so brutish and nasty, that Warriors too must be. That is simply not accurate." << apparently you can get random dork to support the termiting, also, for as long as you call him a "chinese linguist" or w/e the fuck.
mircea_popescu: "What is not accurate is the false and felonious image of the U.S. military on which the defense of her conduct has been, at its root, predicated: that somehow everyone in her formative years in the military was practically part of a tribe of 62, overly-aggressive Alpha males pumping testosterone out their pores who ganged up on the smallest in the group and tore her apart out of hyper-machismo intolerance; that War is
mircea_popescu: basically the us army is a ridiculous menagerie. AND the whole fucking point, from the pov of the obama DoS, is exactly that it not only stay that way, but never again become an actual army.
mircea_popescu: o find her there, hed probably just get blown up by an IED problem solved."
mircea_popescu: her, so she joined up with the Americans instead. Charlie 82d had dads in their mid-thirties, and it had dads not yet old enough to buy beer. My platoon had a single mom who had been working as an exotic dancer before she raised her right hand and took the oath; another had married young, got divorced and wanted to get as far away from her Ex as possible; she figured the Middle East was probably far enough, but if he tried t
mircea_popescu: One recruit in fourth platoon had been homeless before he joined, and another had blown his entire first university semesters tuition on OxyContin before he dropped out and enlisted. One recruit was a Mexican citizen who was willing to go to Iraq and fight for the United States in exchange for expedited citizenship. Another was a female with dual German/American citizenship who was so short, the German Army wouldnt take
mircea_popescu: d a former coffee distributor in South America in his mid-thirties who everyone still called Grandpa. One recruit ironically named Goesforth went AWOL within 48 hours of arrival, deserted the military, and was never seen again.
mircea_popescu: "In 2007, the U.S. Army was habitually failing to meet its monthly recruiting goals; the application standards relaxed and a great cross-section of humanity ended up reporting for duty that warm October at Fort Leonard Wood. In the company, there was a 17-year-old who had enlisted with a waiver, and there was: a 42-year-old mother of three who was terrified of needles; a new grandmother to a brand-new infant granddaughter; an
mircea_popescu: notice that the feathering thing is actually curative, as proven by the fact that absent the men, rooster did it to himself.
mircea_popescu: letting him out of prison is likely the dumbest thing obama ever did. not in terms of impact, which it entirely lacks, but in terms of concentration.
mircea_popescu: and this is what he was doing with the wikileaks, too. until the day he dies, pvt c manning will be looking to reassure himself that yes, totally, mommy rules!
mircea_popescu: which is why he joined the army, too, trying to bait that absent father ; and which is WHY the candy thing. didn't want the fucking candy anymore than i do. just wanted to see if dog may be enticed to bark in the exact manner that'd get it shot ?
mircea_popescu: dude's not very perceptive. manning evidently comes from a broken home, which instilled the expectation that Mommy is somehow significantly more powerful than Daddy.
mircea_popescu: ractically bragging out loud that she had contraband candy. At six weeks into basic training, it just wasnt worth it, and yet that scene has stayed with me all these years, because for Manning, it somehow was worth it. Maybe by then, she thought she had nothing else to lose."
mircea_popescu: "At the end of the field exercise, that holdover was walking up to groups of us, offering to sell us candy for $20 a package. We all knew to keep our distance from him he was untrustworthy, he was in trouble, and he was only going to get you in trouble too if you associated with him. And yet, Chelsea Manning bought a package of M&Ms from him for $20. I remember that scene, because Manning was not quiet about it. She was p
mircea_popescu: dude ~maybe~, if i know them personally and care on some sort of level i might update some dork's gender. unless you invent fucking vlsi the odds aren't too good of that.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 06:09 a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:24 mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/10729577345/ << disregard the meatsack, gaze in wonder at the caddy
ben_vulpes: our options are to scratch in the dirt or pretend that a life made of plastic is worth living.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:58 trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry