asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612526 << i saw this and immediately expected it to be about the spiral 'torpedo' search strategy, but nope
mircea_popescu: there you go.
asciilifeform: http://www.trobar.org/troubadours/montan/montan2.php << found by way of the not-so-great www sources.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-capitalism/#comment-121289
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/18b0b3a13a75ed537a94955d7ec082e8/tumblr_o7yhg27Se91v0oj9oo2_500.gif
mircea_popescu: anyway. warren becoming the libertard schelling point is possibly the best thing for sanity. she's utterly terrible.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's a harsh blow to the socialist dorks to realise that no, being "an activist" doesn't mean you're someone. every yoko ono out there shudders, and that's... most of the movement.
mircea_popescu: anyway, apparently melania trump worked as a high end escort, sez daily mail ? i never had the pleasure, but seriously, wouldn't you WANT a president whose daugther is keen ?
shinohai: Why the insistence I upload mah pk
mircea_popescu: in other news, checking out the latest trump news is like fucking catnip, total unintentional comedy & butthurt goldmine.
shinohai: them = keybase
mircea_popescu: who are them here ?
shinohai: I'm not Framedragger or asciilifeform levell but I've had my eye own them from inception
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 23:37 framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
a111: Logged on 2017-01-29 17:56 mircea_popescu: then you can look through mimisbrunnr and see the sort of load bitcoin db implies, then you'll be in a fine position to model adequate tests for the profiling thing above
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612495 << if your trb node is on solid hardware might as well add it to the list of nodes ; otherwise there's an ample swath of thingd to do, depends what your inclination is. i suggested looking into mimisbrunnr in the context of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-29#1609460
mircea_popescu: nothing else is needed or wanted , or is there ?
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-circle-explore-method/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Circle Explore Method
shinohai: The only reason I am still testing Deb/Ubuntu at this point is to help potential noobs that have a smidgen of an idea how to operate linux
shinohai: thestringpuller: I honestly don't want to encourage you to continue to use Deb for obvious reasons .... but it's just vanilla wheezy
thestringpuller: ah. do you have an image name for the wheezy you used? i just wanna try it out lol
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/08/the-shallow-depths-of-the-apparent-deep/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The shallow depths of the apparent deep.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
framedaddy_ghett: oh, there.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612483 << yeah, I'm fine with trinque handling the payment portion of the process, and I shouldn't have any issues getting lobbesbot to handle the billing portion
mircea_popescu: at least if they do we'll get to explore the "automate signed" space cheaply enough.
mircea_popescu: possibly they should exist as deeds for that matter.
trinque: I'm gonna need that to finish logbot-wot (handles voicing model and ratings), after which the thing's modular, ready to release (and accept other Lords patches)
trinque: speaking of which, ben_vulpes, I'm hacking on the raw protocol logging thing today for a bit. dunno if you did anything there to get ACTION working with logs.bvulpes.com
mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 17:10 mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate.
jhvh1: thestringpuller: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
shinohai: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html <<< is pretty self explanatory ... phf also has a nice source viewer which is helpful for reading the code.
Reuel: ah yeah i hobbied a bit with the cli before, can't seem to find it now... i'll look harder
mircea_popescu: that's all it has, there's no gui
mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate.
mircea_popescu: ^look ye and be amazed at the grandiose arithmetical future of alphabet, inc!
Reuel: And hardware isn't 100% safe either... ah I am drifting off anyway
shinohai: I was a Debian fag for years until the Lordship convinced me of gentoo switch
Reuel: Yet, following the philosophy, then at some point one would want to build an OS this way, right?
Reuel: Also, in the spirit of what you guys are doing, I'd guess Ubuntu would not be the prefered system to run a bitcoin node on for serious use, do you have suggestions as to what to use?
Reuel: When I am looking at the TRB site seals, I see more than one for each patch, does that mean code has been reviewed?
mircea_popescu: "E tiravan la donas e tozas e molhers e venc tot dreit la peira lai on era mestiers." how about that! what fucking magic is this, i wonder! you mean to tell me it's possible to KNOW THE FUCKING SOURCES as opposed to n-th hand idle commentary of no value or import ?!
mircea_popescu: seriously, 500 fucking references, all of which to one of either "according to the most detailed sources" or "according to one source", or "apparently" or "legend" ? fuck me, really ?
mircea_popescu: dude how the fuck can google be this fucking useless.\
mircea_popescu: (after "they won't fucking yield" peacefully, without any sort of plan other than "we'll just keep on going". holocaust predictably followed.)
mircea_popescu: shit ended poorly for them.
mircea_popescu: kind-of easy to forget (especially for the ustard who never knew) that there was a california a thousand years ago, and it was called languedoc.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:40 phf: first time you see a physics ph.d. with a patent you're kind of impressed, but when you have ten of them in a row..
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612420 << and the first time you see a lord in full regalia it's also kind of impressing ; by the time the peasants made themselves replicas and every barefoot-in-the-mud haystack princess is embroidering her "crest" on pillows...
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 00:28 mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:36 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612232 << umd is a giant h1-b clearing house, when you take away that, there's nothing left. at a recent career fair i saw huge lines of azns and indians at google and facebook booths ("our wait time finally dropped below an hour so i could get away and grab lunch")
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612417 << quite exactly, yes. a fine example of the general principle in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612300
mircea_popescu: more or less the "refugee" thing.
mircea_popescu: the universal cure for it, as deployed by the french king, is raising special forces cavalry dedicated to raping the daugthers and castrating the husbands, and billeting it with the families in question.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 04:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612127 << i actually heard that phrase verbatim from the nordics more than once in the past week
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612411 << it's the periodic sort of idiocy ; you end up hearing it from sinking civilisations. the greeks thought "the future is female" and it survived ~1k years, as seen eg in the cathar heresy.
phf: first time you see a physics ph.d. with a patent you're kind of impressed, but when you have ten of them in a row..
phf: i could count the natives on two hands, and only one or two with the right kinds of brains. on the other hand incredibly large number of "i have a ph.d. and a patent back in china, studying here for compsci undergrad"
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612232 << umd is a giant h1-b clearing house, when you take away that, there's nothing left. at a recent career fair i saw huge lines of azns and indians at google and facebook booths ("our wait time finally dropped below an hour so i could get away and grab lunch")
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 20:05 mircea_popescu: i don't use their dns.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612201 << i'm using that ip list that you pasted in round-robin for both bouncer and the bot, and subjectively shit's been dropping more frequently.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 19:05 asciilifeform: and other proggies running on the box have 0 business knowing which serial ttys are rngs, which are terminals, and which -- nukes
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612175 << if we're sticking to unix, should really be able to specify which random device to use, with /dev/random being fallback. of course they Solved it on Plan9 (tm), you can bind whatever endpoint as /dev/random in your process
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 18:24 mircea_popescu: ahahaha future is female get the fuck out of here.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612127 << i actually heard that phrase verbatim from the nordics more than once in the past week
mod6: <+thestringpuller> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it... << ahh, huh. well, if you ever figure out what it is, let us know.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it...
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D140BCA0BB6C20C9AB25314C80770AB6DEAC6302A53ACA6E89CEA0A2D1DCC93D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1648...0553 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.33.66 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.33.66 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (athena.argo.no. NO)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D140BCA0BB6C20C9AB25314C80770AB6DEAC6302A53ACA6E89CEA0A2D1DCC93D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1667...5417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.33.66 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.33.66 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (athena.argo.no. NO)
thestringpuller: and so the war goes on.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: most wireless carriers in usa -- already do afaik
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this wouldn't be the first isp that tried to monkey with the naked bits , nor the last
thestringpuller: no PRB nodes on the LAN
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you're interested in a perma-cure, plz consider answering my qs
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: one other thing: is there a prb node also on your lan? it might have led to malleus banhammering of your ip.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what does your build look like ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: out of curiosity-- what isp
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: weird heathen survey connects on my VPN machine but not from my local network?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not possible to have "0 air defense" to the level of making it safe for helicopter.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: problem is on your end
thestringpuller: as of current looks like there are no TRB nodes responding
asciilifeform: the latter works, in all fairness, quite well against folx with ~0 air defense.
asciilifeform: they were cannonfodder-inserters first, gun platform -- distant second.
mircea_popescu: aha. otherwise dumbest thing ever, really, chopper as battle machine ?!
asciilifeform: they settled on physically marooning the cannon fodder behind enemy lines, with chopper. hence that vehicle becoming iconic of the period.
asciilifeform: vietnam is a fascinating treasury of lulz, and quite well-documented. how, for instance, the command was mainly occupied with question of how to actually make the conscripts fight instead of 'travail arabe' imitation (consisting of retreat and shots fired for sound effect)
asciilifeform: by some accounts, good share of the actual 2way fire exchanges, ~were~ with ak.
mircea_popescu: allowing the ru to superiorily lulz at teh orcs.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for the needs of us industry to feel important and relevant, war'd have been fought with ak-47 on both sides.
asciilifeform: (which birthed f35 et al.)
mircea_popescu: well they were pretty shitty rifles.
asciilifeform: vietnamese would not even take the rifles. 'this little black rifle is of no use to our cause.' --actual order
asciilifeform: i suspect that modern folx see war as a snore at least partly because there is not so much that is to be carted away. killing, e.g., usg troops, is pest control. cockroaches - don't have gold.
asciilifeform: quite likely there are folx in rural ru still shitting in toilets from reichstag to this day.
asciilifeform: (though they did find a way to take zeiss home -- entire thing, men, machines, glass.)
mircea_popescu: germans were more practical, burn teh locals take the train system.
mircea_popescu: as many equal rounds as there are men present.
mircea_popescu: you understand the ancient conception of war ? you raise a bunch of men, you go the next town over, you beat up all the guys, this is the work ; you fuck all the women and drink all the booze, this is the party (like what they do in sane jurisdiction during college games, the winning team gets the naked cheerleaders of tghe losers') ; then all the gold found on the premises is melted into one single thing and it is poured in
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that. ww1 veterans got gold ? what gold did they get ?
asciilifeform: if 'their plumbing' means 'stitch malefactor's arse to his mouth' and take his gold -- then yes, deal.
mircea_popescu: wtf, suppose you're a plumber, go do a spot of work, dork refuses to pay, you go to courthouse to complain they make you do their plumbing too. this sounds like a deal to you ?
mircea_popescu: bitch, veteran = golden solidus and all the barbarian women in a county. that's the deal.
mircea_popescu: basically they fought another war for free because they weren't paid for he first one ?
asciilifeform: ~then~ went on to get fucked by new folx, in new orifices.
asciilifeform: mno. went to his house, and burned it to the ground, and fucked his daughters' neck stumps.
mircea_popescu: they didn't go home happy.
mircea_popescu: this is a deal ? because why, they "got married" ? tyvm.
mircea_popescu: who ... fucked once more, and allowed them to stay on, to get fucked more as the need may arise.
mircea_popescu: so they got fucked once and didn't get paid, so they went to the fucker's house to complain.
mircea_popescu: how not ? think of them as hookers.
mircea_popescu: well yeah. the veterans usually get fucked, from rome onwards.
asciilifeform: the folx 'with the guns and training' were raped by washington (shay's rebellion), by hoover (bonus army), by johnson (vietnam), by bush/obummer (iraq bonus withdrawal, retroactive, evictions, dekulakizations.) somehow.
mircea_popescu: but in any case - stomping into the ground anyone with "protests" is certainly the moral imperative of the age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1zp953kVLs to quote the left's own agitprop.
mircea_popescu: derp who's never been punched imagines his edgy talk is something he can support because he has no life experience ; and will be shocked to discover that if you get yourself in the situation where you get punched, people don't usually stop after the first one, even though you switchedon a dime from tough talking dragon to whining little girl.
mircea_popescu: "And the frightening thing is that the Left is so foolish, so stuck in its bubble that it has no understanding that it can only push so far before the people with all the guns and all the training push back. Thats the problem with kids who were raised on participation trophies and who never got into a fistfight they dont consider the possibility that they will lose, and lose hard." << dude exactly has it. loudmouth
mircea_popescu: then again, i am hard pressed to ground the proposition that the left shouldn't be tortured in anything palpable. why exactly not ? i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: supposedly mercy killing is when you kill an injured animal on the spot, rather than torture it medically for a while first.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it'll be either crush them now or crush them tomorrow or crush them next week etcetera. the only variable is how long the gnashing of teeth is to last.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : townhall.com significantly more widely read today than theatlantic.com ; i bow to your more relevant lulzlinks lol
mircea_popescu: ad with it. shame on the arm!"
mircea_popescu: but in other butthurt, from thenewrepublic fake news outlet : "The term fake news outlived its usefulness almost as soon as it became common parlance, and is perhaps only valuable now as a marker for whether journalism that paints President Donald Trump in an unflattering light has reached his desk." ie, "our arm outlived its usefulness just as soon as the enemy broke it off our shoulder and started beating us in the he
mircea_popescu: maybe make a website for it too. "here's the dozen children that had to lose a limb because johnny mc fucksticks, "hacker and evanghelist" had really bad parents who didn't beat him."
mircea_popescu: fucking 7 year cycles, most of the idiots must be dead by the time they're 7 and people are looking for compliant cocksuckers to fill the scant page jobs available.
mircea_popescu: that's what built the british empire, that's EXACTLY what built european civilisation, and i would much rather cut a limb off any three year old than ever again encounter any of these unchecked, unhumbled, unhinged monstrosities "liberal our democracy" produces.
mircea_popescu: chains for the poor, whippings for the poor, feed children as little as they can bear and send them away from their mothers as soon as they can wlak, to slave in the house of another.
mircea_popescu: hey, the feeling is entyirely mutual. i don't simply think they're misguided, although they are, or for that matter wrong. i don't hate them, but there's no question of the world continuing on any other basis than the complete enslavement of any lefty anywhere.
mircea_popescu: "Leftists dont merely disagree with you. They dont merely feel you are misguided. They dont think you are merely wrong. They hate you. They want you enslaved and obedient, if not dead."
asciilifeform: maybe the ftmeade pipe nao has lag, and so mircea_popescu's -- doesn't
mircea_popescu: that shit was so amusing, the collective sigh of relief on twitter, "finally, something we are qualified to discuss! bathrobes!"
mircea_popescu: and, amusingly, fake news are too busy stroking each other with bathrobe talk to say anything. and then expect anyone to think very much of them. hurr.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform so far in the ukraine the russians are on the move, the "goivernment controlled" areas shrinking. they just lost another rural shithole this morning
mircea_popescu: diabolique with the ustardian remakes. really puts some light on the fundamental cultural inferiority of the new world.)
mircea_popescu: i'm rather amused, tbh.
shinohai: !~weather
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, that thing's been redone a few times, always hacky and with hacks. the original version - is with alain delon. see that, compare the ustardian ineptitude, it's a cultural shock about on the level of comparing the original diabolique with the ustardian remakes. really puts some light on the fundamental cultural inferiority of the new world.)
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 22:55 mircea_popescu: unlike the rich ivy leagues, it entirely lives off trump's charity.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612238 << 'trump's' usg is rather like that ameriexpat d00d's bangkok pub. that is, 'his' to ceremonially sit on.
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : whenever a "liberal" dork points out that "the electoral college is broken because hillarious clinton got 52% of the popular vote", feel free to retort the inept hag carried less than 500 counties. out of over 3000.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that "civilisation" aka "liberal democracy" aka rank nonsense promises her "a job" doing nothing and a full trough every day, no matter what. the shit must be taken away, let the average girl worry about feeding herself, ukraine style.
mircea_popescu: "you're not even fat, what exactly is your problem ?" "PRECISELY that! I still hold on to my princess delusions because unlike the fatty, i've not been forced to abandon them yet."
mircea_popescu: she's probably got some scrawny horse at home and doesn't perceive the branch to swing to all that clearly.
shinohai: But ask then to take a topless pic with face "Oh shit, that's too much"
shinohai: No shit, saw this hamplanet girl getting boned by a guy in a horse mask today. Face for the world to see, no shame.
mircea_popescu: by 2017 they must have gone through the "hai" "tits or gtfo" "uhh...." cycle at least 1k times. what, they need 1k more ?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they're thinking. not like you can date without linking your cooch page, so wtf.
mircea_popescu: epic shit. i guess ima start offering a bitcent per cracked progressive head, or somesuch. lettuce fight "the battle" then huh.
mircea_popescu: "We cant know how the battle will finish, only that it will be fought. This is, quite suddenly, the story of our time."
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, the "Special relationsheep" britain speaker of parliament declares he will oppose trump speaking in uk parliament. hurr!
mircea_popescu: in my own experience, it's very common for poorly socialized anal child to neeneer something along these lines, "oh you wouldn't dare" until the very first time you grab a stick and take his consciousness away.
mircea_popescu: unlike the rich ivy leagues, it entirely lives off trump's charity.
asciilifeform: r undocumented persons, unless they have a warrant or absent exigent circumstances. UMD police will not partner with ICE officials to assist with immigration enforcement activities. UMD police will not detain, question, or arrest any individual solely on the basis of his or her undocumented status.'
asciilifeform: 'We will provide you with all available protections under the law and in accordance with the guidance provided by the State Attorney General: We will not release information on immigration status of our students, unless required by law. We will not share student information with Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) officials without a court order. We will not permit ICE officials to enter campus buildings to search fo
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what does gcc --version return ?
thestringpuller: mod6: wheezy doesn't want to build TRB anymore. ping me if you have a specific image that you recommend from the wheezy era
asciilifeform: mats: if only they had with what to glass it.
mats: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/7388/video-of-saudi-frigate-attack-released-as-ballistic-missile-hits-near-riyadh
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: man in a nuthouse. he cowers in the corner, won't let anyone come near, in very odd pose. finally the d00dz in white coats come. they ask:
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sane folx using pm, treat it as a variant of pastebin. but apparently 'the squirrels don't know that' ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579086 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. besides, i don't even fucking use pms, and the c
mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulz where in same amsterdam dc box #i of 1..n suddenly "is laggy" while the rest are not, only for box j to be laggy two days after switch (ie the next tues)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine they think themselves advanced for being able to log chans and steal pms.
asciilifeform: (what's the attack mode of a fleanode box, at any rate, while we're on the subj..? selectively vanishes messages ? inserts crapola ? as i see it, this will show up in the logtrons. and even if not, we have ways of reaching one another and pointing out the fact)
mircea_popescu: i don't use their dns.
mircea_popescu: in general empire is inept, the worst thing you can do for them is use their own older shit.
asciilifeform: as if one were any more or less infested than another.
mircea_popescu: i kinda dun feel like connecting to their new nsa servers (no, mp doesn't buy the "user provided" angle, seeing how they wouldn't take HIS)
asciilifeform: (for some reason unknown to me, the satellite folx have a separate one)
hanbot: i thought it was "nothing is beyond our reach" or what's that idiocy with the octopus
asciilifeform: the ftmeade jargon, iirc, is 'nobus' ('no one but us'), in contrast with 'phuctor-style' discoverable hole.
hanbot: <asciilifeform> it may even be that ~most~ rsa keys, such as presently exist, are cheaply breakable. << i'd've thought accessibility only via some other means precluded cheapness. but anyway, interestingk.
asciilifeform: ('slave clock' in turn is an illustration of specificity-of-diddling. say you do not want to run the thing at the default clock, because you suspect that enemy rented the flat below yours and is microwaving your box, not only penetrating the shields but boiling your tea for you, etc. and you want to run at a different, unknown to him, frequency. well -- you can.)
asciilifeform: (you can put it in slave clock mode, but only by connecting physical wires in the very specific way described in the docs, and never 'from software')
asciilifeform: this is why i did not make FUCKGOATS a usb device in the usual sense. and did not give it any 'test mode command' or in fact any way to manipulate its state from the connected comp at all.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if i go and dd if=/dev/whatever1234 of=foo.bin bs=512 count=1 , there is no mechanical way to say, am i generating a 4096-bit whatever key ? or reading voltages from my air conditioner ? or whichever.
BingoBoingo: In other news, the best part of starting Brussel sprouts from seed is culling the delicious seedlings.
asciilifeform: and other proggies running on the box have 0 business knowing which serial ttys are rngs, which are terminals, and which -- nukes
asciilifeform: mix at the point of use.
asciilifeform: and not only in the sense of 'having 1 rng on the physical iron is braindamaged' but doing the mixing in a centralized place, known in advance to the enemy, is likewise idiotic
asciilifeform: while we're on the subj, i will say that reading from just ~one~ centralized rng, is braindamaged;
asciilifeform: grab the canonical source (deedbotted by mircea_popescu) and see for yourself.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can ssl or gpg be beaten into eating a specific file of entropy without patching them?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja ever learn how the hell shitflare got between you and anybody at all ?
asciilifeform: (elementary application of 'birthday theorem')
asciilifeform: hanbot: conceivably, a sabotaged generator that yields 2**32 possible keys, will result in ~0 natural collisions, and remain invisible to phuctor unless i first find it via some other means.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: (because there were 32768 possible primes of every particular size, which makes for very few natural collisions.)
asciilifeform: consider a very simple example, the debian keys. prior to when i added their factors to the 8ball by hand, only a handful of them popped.
asciilifeform: there are also several known classes of ~naturally~ occurring 'sad prime', and some unknown number of unknown such classes.
asciilifeform: hanbot: there are possible broad classes of diddled rng that will result in trivially breakable keys, but not phuctorable in the usual sense (without my knowing the trick)
a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 17:21 asciilifeform: the one 'quantum comp' that is a reasonable possibility is the perpetuum mobile sort. where, e.g., a class of weak (i.e. cheaply breakable from birth, or from a few published signatures) rsa keys is discovered in the dungeons, and dressed up into a 'we haz magical rsa breaker box, go switch to $shitcrypto'
a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 21:44 asciilifeform: 'Lol this is easily the best "unhappen" yet. So as the story goes, a secret key that exists and is regularily updated since 2006 suddenly — but deliberately! — gets a shared factor in 2016, as part of a didactic exercise which consists of doing euclids and other calisthenics. As a sub-plot thickener, it is for the first time announced that it takes 11*10/2 operations to obtain a 600+ digit prime factor in Berlin, which is somewha
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA, the George HW Bush Story repeated!!!
asciilifeform: mccain is almost a human embodiment of usa per se. destroyed several jets through, legend has it, militant incompetence with ~own hands~, and by some accounts - entire battleship. result: promotion. (father was an admiral)
BingoBoingo: Anyways in 2018 Trump gets the Senate and McCain can fuck off to Bahamas party
mircea_popescu: and no, trump should never have endorsed the mccain imbecile.
mircea_popescu: short and exactly to the point.
mircea_popescu: do they actually hatch this idiocy or how does it come about
mircea_popescu: ahahaha future is female get the fuck out of here.
asciilifeform: stack trace plox, i lost the frame, which was putin
mircea_popescu: and yes they didn't change him
asciilifeform: woah -- first swallows of the dewinblowzification spring..?
shinohai: http://archive.is/PiNTr <<< lol I actually have an old fax machine somewhere, but prolly not worth effort just to troll the feebs
phf: y'all wanna buy some superior computing environment? i got here some good shit, my man. i just need like $10 for the bus, and then i have a guy, he's going to drop it off for me, c'mon man
asciilifeform: (then -- postbox...)
phf: it's no problem, i have a plan, i'm going to sell all my computing hardware and from then on do all my work from an ipad
phf: it looks like the codebase is entirely licensed from symbolics, and there are leftover, possibly operational bits, that talked directly to x11 (with "genera" and "(c) symbolics" all over it), at some point allegro added a subtrate layer, that they called silica, which at the moment can do a motif or a windows nt backends.
phf: unrelatedly i got allegro's CLIM2 running (on an allegro). it's significantly faster than mcclim, mostly because it uses a MOTIF subtrate, which also means that it's even ugglier, and also otherwise prehistoric
asciilifeform: not much info about most of these, typically 1-2 d00dz involved in making, and a few hundred -- sold.
shinohai: I've seen other clones, this one looks so ..... industrial
asciilifeform: shinohai: there literally a thousand types of this, in late '80s-early '90s
asciilifeform: in other lulz, clitler is bak! : '“Despite all the challenges we face, I remain convinced that YES, the future is female,” Clinton said in a videotaped message to the 2017 Makers Conference in California. Makers is a storytelling platform for raising issues impacting women.'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 13:20 mircea_popescu: oh man, the fucking 70s... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4BZnwTWIAAH26J.jpg
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612085 << is that the shot-self-in-eye d00d again? his expression! he looks as if he ~knew~...
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 12:54 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone actually looked into the "so called judge", james robart ? turns out he's a proper judge as opposed to the glorified court clerks the us has been replacing the judgeship with ; pretty famous in seattle for tearing down seattle's ban on strip clubs.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612084 << mircea_popescu is mistaken in the belief that usa has a seekrit inner core of 'sane judges'. there is no such thing as a sane judge in a reich. any more than you can have a 'sane' rubyonlgbtpqrs programmer.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 12:37 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the epicenter of hot blondies, http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20170206&t=2&i=1171630335
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612083 << witness, absolutely as if clitler were on the iron throne
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes turns out danielpbarron is working the daylights out of mz lustt eh ? :D
phf: amusingly enough, the consensus among local nordics (swedes, norgewians and danes so far) is that "pussy grabbing" is just an obvious, if an extreme reaction to the american political correctness insanity
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone actually looked into the "so called judge", james robart ? turns out he's a proper judge as opposed to the glorified court clerks the us has been replacing the judgeship with ; pretty famous in seattle for tearing down seattle's ban on strip clubs.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the epicenter of hot blondies, http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20170206&t=2&i=1171630335