jurov: I will wait with the shares till that is resolved.
mircea_popescu: she wouldn't mind doing it in person, but the dude sure as fuck ain't gonna ask her.
mircea_popescu: i imagine 50% of rats exist so random wankers can watch the girl in 8a work as a camho without having to pay for the "credits"
shinohai: Doubt even the shittiest back-alley clinic in Guatemala would pay 10% of that for dudes kidney.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i read that as "the system has decided the value to it of this $random is 200k."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/our-everyday-rape/#selection-133.20-133.57 << in which mp unexpectedly claims dibs on the "it remains" device by virtue of material published 6 years ago!
shinohai: lol @ homeless crackhead being given $200`000 bail for setting the freeway fire.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^ (but i don't have a point to prove, just that i didn't see much to blame there, however i could just be my usual naive)
Framedragger: "and have my esteemed pedigree tree"? isn't part of his (by now, tired, yes) point to the effect of the exact opposite? ("trust your biology, folklore, etc., they're better than experts telling you things"; "i won't give advice on $currency because i don't hold positions in $currency hence not exposed to the risk", so on)
asciilifeform: maybe there was something good in joseph smith also -- 'stop drinking', say.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: other observation re taleb -- i find his works quintessentially 'american', in the most damning sense of the word -- they are exactly 'salvation through method' - 'do-s and dont-s', 'don't use black-scholes', 'do worship at my feet, and have my esteemed pedigree tree, and sit on the sunny shores of the levant, and You Too Could Be A God Like Me' etc.
BingoBoingo: saifedean of Lebanon, expert who would not deedbot was cast out for the rice in his pork
mircea_popescu: chronos, the god time, who devoured all his sons, was wounded by a diamond sickle borne by his own creation. it happens.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as far as the forum is concerned, his latest foray was some very overreactive bs triggered by my refusal to take rice out of my sushi or somesuch. << AHA
asciilifeform: my other irritation, fwiw, in taleb, is that he positions himself as 'opponent' of lizard system, while in fact being a creature of it
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care re "arrogance" or whatever other emotional manipulation in the text. i can read the barely literate productions of poorly washed 5th century jews figuring themselves "god". what's taleb gonna do to max my dosimeter.
asciilifeform: but suffers from large admixture of nonsense and peacock feathers.
asciilifeform: it is clearly the work of a thinking man.
mircea_popescu: good here means a very specific thing : a) not lifted from soup but actually chosen by a hand that can choose to suit the work. ie, not pret a porter but tailored ; and b) correctly covering. as explained in eg http://trilema.com/2017/stop-being-so-fucking-poor/#footnote_3_72144
mircea_popescu: my positive view comes from specific things, such as take the recent article of his that was discussed here : his references are good.
mircea_popescu: sadly there isn't such a thing as "brilliant trader" in nature anymore than there is "masked crime figther wearing a cape".
asciilifeform: my pov re taleb reduces to 'asciilifeform does not have he expertise to determine, from the supplied info, whether taleb is a brilliant trader; but the money, even supposing taleb made it from trading,
mircea_popescu: until they are replicated, all successes can't be replicated.
asciilifeform: lottery winners have not merely 0 to teach, but 'learning' from them tends to make folx dumber.
asciilifeform: and i even have nothing, believe it or not, against lottery winners. of whatever kind. but i will not worship them.
mircea_popescu: because the latter have to move, and consequently must be graceful and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: the problem is the rope frays at the other end : bama dillert's father, who plows, does not appear in any james hones novels ; bama dillert himself, who figures if a man's gonna gamble anyway, might as well do it without plowing, does.
asciilifeform: i am not a protester of the food chain.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's two kinds of animals, at the basics. those who "make something with own chloroplasts" ie, algae, plants etc ; and then those who eat them.
mircea_popescu: if for nothing else, because if followed along it ends up favouring bos over panthera
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635918 << i suspect alf has a very strong bias pro algae and anti bacteria. i'm not altogether convinced the view has any merit.
mircea_popescu: because taleb is no mark cuban (the poster child of "pro wrestlert accidentally sold pair of used undies for 5bn, now thinks self businessman in spite of mountain of evidence to the contrary accumulated over the decades)
mircea_popescu: if it's indeed the case that taleb is your orlov, i'll comment that i'm missing out on less than you are.
mircea_popescu: very similar reaction in a certain sort of mousy librarian brain (like for eg the population of something awful) wrt yours truly.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635912 << i don't personally find taleb objectionable. this position my be significantly bolstered by my disinclination to actually read him. anyway -- i suspect it might be a case of anaphylaxis. you can't stand specific antigens which he expresses mostly to protect himself from the idiot soup he bathes in, the twitter world etc.
mircea_popescu: (in other words : males tend to put up all sorts of inept acts because, literally, manhood is a practical impossibility.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's hard out there for a pimp, yo, when he trynna make da mony fo da rent.
mircea_popescu: as far as the forum is concerned, his latest foray was some very overreactive bs triggered by my refusal to take rice out of my sushi or somesuch.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 14:48 asciilifeform: the basic q for him, per diana_coman earlier, 'who the hell ~are~ you, to ~speak~'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635906 << lebanese iirc expat ; did some research work in the us. not actually stupid but altogether lazy and possessed of a very inflated sense of self-worth and self-importance (it seems to rub off on foreigners faster than on locals, this typical ustardism. i guess it would be because the immigrants self-select for sensitivity to the infection).
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 17:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he "will spend significant time" to find... "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" yet he can't be bothered to figure out how deedbot works ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 09:36 diana_coman: it seems that academia meanwhile went even faster downhill than I thought possible; at this rate it will soon produce colouring books and "educate" people on how pencils are not even good for much besides making marks on paper (for which one can use their hands anyway! there's one chapter on that plus 10 on history of mark-making and its perks)
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 08:20 saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635884 << this was lulzy. diana_coman has been weighed in the balance and found wanting. saifadean 5:27
Framedragger: (well he did retire in his 20s by doing trading and also correctly shorting for the 2008 meltdown)
asciilifeform: (d00d who thinks that he's a demigod, but i have nfi what he actually accomplished with ~own~ hands other than the tired old trick of 'turning a billion $ into a million')
asciilifeform: but not for the certificate-from-hitler.
asciilifeform: there are few folx more insufferable than the ones who think that their heathen 'credentials' ~per se~ are worth something.
shinohai: He replied to me on twitter: "the groupthink, navel-gazing & ritualism can be a little overdone!" ( Asking one to cite sources = ritualism ? )
asciilifeform: the linked material is.. 'content free'
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 08:20 saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
trinque savors the irony re: "rituals for exclusivity"
shinohai: tfw peer review requires you to get out the crayons ....
diana_coman: it seems that academia meanwhile went even faster downhill than I thought possible; at this rate it will soon produce colouring books and "educate" people on how pencils are not even good for much besides making marks on paper (for which one can use their hands anyway! there's one chapter on that plus 10 on history of mark-making and its perks)
diana_coman: lolz @ ritualism; I ask for practical, hands-on experience that would give him something to say on the topic and he points me to bla-bla; I point out it is bla-bla unsupported and without any concern to even allow people to verify it should they be inclined to do so and he claims it's rituals I'm asking for
saifedean: in any case, these only inform the last couple of chapters of the book. the rest is mostly economic history and austrian economics on sound money and its perks & fiat money and its disasters
saifedean: academic disciplines as we know them have degenerated into rituals for exclusivity, not communicating ideas. these papers have been quite helpful to disabuse a lot of people of the retarded notions that altcoins and "blockchain technology" are going to revolutionize all teh thingz
saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
diana_coman: the links you sent are essentially bla-bla; not even theory since there isn't even some clear methodology one could evaluate, nor clear supporting arguments to the claims; I won't waste any more time on it
diana_coman: I didn't mean to get involved and do something useful with "blockchain technology"; I meant at the very least running a node, exploring the network
saifedean: other than bitcoin-envy, there's absolutely no reason for anyone to use "blockchain technology" for anything
saifedean: sounds nice in principle except that you can't actually do anything with "blockchain technology" other than bitcoin
diana_coman: read this: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2832751 <- the answer to the title would be "well, how the hell would you know?" ; really, get involved and do something useful with it and then talk about what you did; so far I see only a re-hash a la acm/journalism/whatevers, not-even-proper-systematic-lit-review
saifedean: agreed entirely, and the only thing that will kill this worthless zombie is sound money cutting off the bezzle spigots
diana_coman: no need to: it thoroughly disabused me of the naive belief that academia is actually worthwhile aka truly doing research (in some 1% cases it might still be doing it, but mostly dieing out)
saifedean: and I'm happy to send you the work in progress first draft, but don't want to publish online yet
diana_coman: saifedean do you have the work and results that mean something? if yes - link; if no, no
diana_coman: in other unrelated or possibly related happenings, my 4 year old got a book about the iss (int'l space station); he got quite obsessed with it for a week so now he knows it inside out; this morning he came with a construction made out of lego pieces and informs me: THIS is IIISSSIII!
saifedean: it's a good answer when you consider that I have the bullshit mainstream credentials most cattle imagine would qualify one to opine on this topic, and that I did not mention that to answer your question because I know cattle credentials don't mean shit.
saifedean: I guess you'll have to read it and judge for yourself. In any case the topic isn't bitcoin per se, it's mostly about sound money, and how bitcoin is the digital solution to this perplexing age old problem that has fucked humanity eternally
diana_coman: saifedean WHAT makes you an expert on the topic?
saifedean: If any of you good folk would like to get a sneak peak at the first draft, I'd appreciate the feedback
saifedean: I'm sure you agree it's about time someone wrote something about bitcoin beyond the 'muh cheap latte processing fees'
saifedean: no, but I wouldn't want that before it's done.Have a few connections to publishers and will ship it off to them when done
saifedean: I'm writing a book explaining the concept of sound money to normies and how bitcoin will restore it
mircea_popescu: lobbes you ever got in game yet ? till trinque 's payment thing is live that's the only way
mircea_popescu: (top keks : sysco tried to buy us foods (2nd in the field) a few years ago, it came out the merger'd have controlled 75% of the us food supply)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 03:13 phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food.
diana_coman: lobbes, I'll gladly pay for the auction services in Eulora; Foxy's currently in a days-long craft so will have to wait for that to finish first though
lobbes: nice. I'll try and find ya tomorrow. I really got to set up my old craptop to just be connected to Eulora 24/7. Currently gotta boot into my winbloze side to get the game working -_-
lobbes: hell, I'll probably just pay my Republican taxes with the first bitcent-bundles I collect
lobbes: danielpbarron, I'm thinkin' that even monthly billing for the thing is too frequent due to the small sums involved. Gonna just do it on a quarterly cycle
trinque: ah yeah that's another
asciilifeform: they all serve 'mcchicken' or similar; 'ice cream' that is 80% hcfc by mass; hcfc syrop drink; etc
phf: there's a handful of american "restaurants" i've never been to, applebees is one of them. but the list is getting smaller with time, recently i got to experience "cracker barrel"
asciilifeform: '"You have reached the Russian embassy, your call is very important to us. To arrange a call from a Russian diplomat to your political opponent, press 1," the recording begins, in Russian and English. "To use the services of Russian hackers, press 2...'
asciilifeform: but, more entertaining, from same rag: 'The Russian Foreign Ministry addressed election interference allegations as an April Fools' Day joke on Saturday. The ministry said on its Facebook page that it had set up an automated telephone switchboard for embassies, offering in a fake voicemail the services of "hackers" and "election interference."'
asciilifeform: 'The bidding war over the rights to the books had reportedly soared above $60 million...'
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/ZEJ1G >> 'Former President Barack Obama is planning an extended stay in the South Pacific as he begins to write his memoir...' etc
asciilifeform: trinque: gotta love the 'we bugged him ACCIDENTALLY, and if not, it was because ru stooge and stfu terrorist'
mircea_popescu: dude got the government into torture. outside of that... really, what else, what more ? once that's on the table everything else's peanuts.
asciilifeform: 'In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
mircea_popescu: in general, the pretense that anything in the us can limit the presidential administration was all but abandoned with bush
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu convinced me -- 0 way to learn it from reading the beobachter.
mircea_popescu: which is kinda the point here. yes, if you read the libertard fake news they're like all victorious and shit, hillary is practically president.
mircea_popescu: they should have shot her, ideally, but whatevs.
asciilifeform: last i heard -- 3rd (?) consecutive 'judge' refused to un-cancel the revised immigration reform thing
shinohai: The Trumpreich lives on!
mircea_popescu: and the trump news totally dried out ;/ nothing but rehashed butthurt and libertard wishful thinking.
asciilifeform: ( the other reason, ftr, why phuctor, is that there exists solely ONE method to determine if your key generator produces phuctorables... )
mircea_popescu: the only adequate epitaph on the tombstones of well over 90% of "civilised world" females the past few centuries is "here lies jane, whom nobody could suymmon the interest to ever rape."
mircea_popescu: the big secret re rape is that it's a happy occasion. the fundamental state is two bored people watching tv, too lazy for even the copacetic nonsense they call proper. let alone any kind of rape.
asciilifeform: yea well phuctor imho exists so that they can be raped raw, not 'helped'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so they can make .io websites under dorky pseudonyms and expect medium tards to pick them up ?
asciilifeform: but why feed the lazy.
mircea_popescu: to think that, much like "tor", those passed for the "forefront of internets" at some point, a decade prior.
mircea_popescu: kinda nice when it just gives away the whole key like that.
mircea_popescu: lmao 310 + 310 digit factors. this'd be a 2kb key i gather ?
asciilifeform: 'Sort-of like the colonial Europeans' expectation that someone firing a weapon necessarily speaks French, or Spanish, or English, or some sort of civilised language. Because otherwise... where did they get the human weapon! Goblins don't craft weapons. '
mircea_popescu: "but mp, my mom told me i was born with the god-given ability to make cogent arguments" "that;s probably why she fucks drunks, too."
mircea_popescu: im not even discussing the substance of his claim. so far we're at the pre-hearing arguments where he learns how to make a cogent statement in the first place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'comp has no business being anything other than large fpga' and 'swamp of nic drivers that have 0 legit reason to exist' are elementarily plagiarized from us
shinohai: My last log message was http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635587 until just now. I like observing the transformation of thought that occurs when one reads these things,
mircea_popescu: shinohai i had some follow-ups for his benefit, such as you know, "why quora is a piece of shit" http://trilema.com/2017/global-warming-on-triton/#footnote_0_71308 and other "basic combinatorics or why $nobody can't possibly have ideas / be taken seriously."
shinohai wonders if mircea_popescu broke the CompanionCube with that Trilema article .....
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 01:28 asciilifeform: in other lulz, for everyone who 'enjoyed' shitoshi's 'varints' -- the retardation apparently is endemic, and even has named!!111 'standards' complete with shitlang demo suites: http://msgpack.org
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635711 << i can't imagine the babe-iosis splittage escaped notice ?
mircea_popescu: "along with images of European sculptures of white men." << welcome to the empire of ignoramuses.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 23:21 asciilifeform: in other lulzies, https://archive.is/BQ2cK >> 'University Police conducted a search of the building, which yielded no additional posters ... The situation is being investigated as a hate bias incident, she added, encouraging anyone with more information to contact University Police.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635691 << it's funny that they can do the whole "this is investigated AS AN X" thing and yet STILL split it in their head so that "justice" and "law" work as anything but "the top criminal in our criminal organization said so."
asciilifeform: in other lulz, for everyone who 'enjoyed' shitoshi's 'varints' -- the retardation apparently is endemic, and even has named!!111 'standards' complete with shitlang demo suites: http://msgpack.org
nacci: it seems to be a catch-all for the aches and pains of middle-aged wisdom
asciilifeform: (with possible exception of the desert)
trinque: https://www.openbsd.org/plus60.html << "On macppc, hook up smu(4/macppc) to the thermal management framework."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: northeast and upper midwest
nacci: so I do have a deedbot registration from about 6 months ago when i was checking out the eulora buzz
doppler: danielpbarron: could it have been the air duct sensor?
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, https://archive.is/BQ2cK >> 'University Police conducted a search of the building, which yielded no additional posters ... The situation is being investigated as a hate bias incident, she added, encouraging anyone with more information to contact University Police.'
trinque: danielpbarron: they patched that (and I patched it myself before somebody else did in CVS tree)
trinque: I had one; I forget now where the hell it went.
trinque: danielpbarron: very nice looking machine, there
a111: Logged on 2014-04-28 10:23 cazalla: moiety: didn't see any male midwives while my wife was in hospital (private), i wouldn't mind being a lactation consultant, it was pretty sweet watching the younger ones caress the missus' tits for milk :P
trinque: asciilifeform: anyhow neither portage nor ports is a sane build system so I'm not picking an OS based on it.
nacci: i am the wonderous nacci, previously non-wot, but want to participate in the discussion, I do like the philosophical approach I've found here
nacci: i suppose that's not much better than getting out the tweasers
nacci: let the punters continue with the architectural experiments and run on some version chosen arbitrarily, maybe porting over critical fixes
asciilifeform: this'ere wad of shit is dry enough to put a primitive hut on top. and it turns over very rarely. would like the same on bsd.
asciilifeform: trinque: indeed quite terrible thing, but i can get permanent no-dbus there. can haz on bsd ?
asciilifeform: the goal post is set by my gentoo boxes, running since '07
asciilifeform: rather than pry out with tweezers 10,001 times.
trinque: asciilifeform: leave the goalpost where it was, eh?
asciilifeform: for other folx.
trinque: asciilifeform: dbus is not in the base system wtf
nacci: perhaps the republic will need to maintain its own os in which to run trb
nacci: yeah there are some interesting decisions made along the way, such as over a dozen drupal packages. . .
nacci: the latest stable version has some regressions that people have posted about on the mailing list
nacci: i've taken an interest in openbsd on powerpc and found there are folks here doing just that
mircea_popescu: !~google human babesiosis in the us
mircea_popescu: a doomed entreprise, obviously. even the more intelligent among the herd are actively laboring to make themselves intolerable and to undermine any possiblity of even vaguely respectable entities sharing their space.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd guess the closest to home summation would be "they aspire to be well regarded by an entity they can respect".
mircea_popescu: and in any case inferior to actual sexual slavery on the face.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me what specifically they aspire to, but it IS clear to me that the plurious "variety" in that aspiration is strictly of the nature of the variant surface glycoproteins, protecting protozoans from the immune system
asciilifeform: probably -- not the communal flat
mircea_popescu: that while not all of the us livestock is fit for either sexual slavery or "our democracy" whatever the fuck they would call their current activities ; "raising awareness and waiting for their day" whatever it may be -- nevertheless sexual slavery is a much more legitimate ASPIRATION than whatever they aspire to, namely "our democracy" or "speaking at a conference" or w/e the shit.
asciilifeform: i'd picture many of the chix would agree to join as junior deck swabbie in mircea_popescu's dirigible. but -- no such luck. (and for that matter, no such luck for the d00dz, either, in any case)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 20:07 mircea_popescu: "Each of HomeShares hundreds of tenants gets about 55 square feet along with half a closet, half a bathroom, and a compact common area shared with a roommate and usually two other flatmates, slumbering in the units other divided bedroom." << how's this supposed to be preferable to simple, honest to god sexual slavery is anyone's guess.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635561 << not every beastie is pet-grade. some -- kennel-grade, others -- soap-.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
mircea_popescu: CompanionCube the point of interest for all this is obviously http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523269 both in-chan context an' references.
mircea_popescu: in any case, dude droning on about "his ideas re evolution" is going to make a very poor impression. as they aren't his fucking ideas, and an apparent ignorance of the whole darwin thing does not plead in favour of either his intelligence or his culture.
CompanionCube: where somebody == being in the WoT/trilema?
mircea_popescu: very much as property works in the empire.
mircea_popescu: either you are somebody, in which case you may have ideas ; or else you are nobody, in which case you stole them.
mircea_popescu: the problem is this : i/we don't deem $nobody capable of independent thought.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635531 << looks like some default won't demean itself to the point of scaling or anythng!
mircea_popescu: what's your word for "i'm just stating stuff others have said without referencing" ?
shinohai: All these lurkers aren't her for nothing!
CompanionCube: *isnt' enough if you didn't originally find the idea somewhere else
CompanionCube: mircea_popescu: imo plagiarism requires intent and knowledge - mere repetition of the idea s
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 18:31 CompanionCube doesn't think the FPGA article plagiarises #trilema logz but I should most likely read/searc more to be confident about that
mircea_popescu: but i guess the natural solution "doesn't scale".
mircea_popescu: "Each of HomeShares hundreds of tenants gets about 55 square feet along with half a closet, half a bathroom, and a compact common area shared with a roommate and usually two other flatmates, slumbering in the units other divided bedroom." << how's this supposed to be preferable to simple, honest to god sexual slavery is anyone's guess.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 14:09 asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/gz0l9 >> communal flats soon to be sop in usa.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635408 << there's this ancient mp idea / article about giving "student" chicks free rent in exchange for living in all-glass no-clothes arrangements. make shop windows great again.
trinque: wot service shall be posted there at some unspecified future date
jurov: mod6: the treasurer duty is very light one, so it's not a problem at all
diana_coman: if it's settled/clear either way, certainly not
a111: Logged on 2016-04-03 01:59 mircea_popescu: more like a "people responsible enough to understand the difference between 'people on tilt' and 'voices of reason'". otherwise i enjoy talking with a wide selection of folks. women, even!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> the one other item is ... jurov fell off as lord treasurer. i dun exactly recall why or wherefore ; but he is STILL holding a considerable sum for the foundation, and moreover why sohuldn't he be a lord ? <- based on the work he did/does as far as I know it, I think he should be on the list; that being said, my understanding was that he got dropped due to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-03#1444966
jurov: I think I can function equally well without titles. And if people stop obsessing about where I am speaking, the better.
CompanionCube doesn't think the FPGA article plagiarises #trilema logz but I should most likely read/searc more to be confident about that
ben_vulpes: the whimsy dun matter terrifically
ben_vulpes: just wait for lady of the coven
mircea_popescu steels himself for when someone's gonna want to be the lord of right good and proper.
mircea_popescu: what, "Lord of the Well" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 15:09 mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-lordship-list-fourth-year/ << so on re-read it occurs to me ben_vulpes should prolly be the lord mimisbrunnr ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635420 << "of the well" more pleasingly esoteric imho
asciilifeform: the comp flies it.
mircea_popescu: it just shocked me, i have nfi how pilots don't kill to drive it, but the thing flows like an audi.
mircea_popescu: it's been revised and revised since the 80s. but they came up with some exceptional engine couplings in the last (2015 ?) iteration
mthreat: ya the -800 is pretty new right
mircea_popescu: the latest though.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure i was on the 737-800. but in the miser section, naturally
mircea_popescu: the thing's shockingly fabulous, i've never had that "This is an exquisite piece of machinery" feeling in any commercial plane before.
mthreat: 25k hours is a lot. the highest columbia probably has under 5k hours even today.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone flew wioth the 737-800 LATEST version ?
mthreat: asciilifeform: many people don't - they fly "experimentals" and save lots of money
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform airframes are rarely the problem.
mircea_popescu: mthreat so that works then. you ever been in cr ?
asciilifeform: 'The 400 has a certified airframe maximum life of 25,200 flight hours.' << lol!
mthreat: mircea_popescu: i plan to do a bunch of flying to mexico soon. I flew along the rio grande a few weeks ago and my right wing was practically in mexico
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world worx.
mthreat: you can carry passengers with either plane.
mthreat: (since it was never certificated in the US)
mthreat: the albatros is under an "experimental" certificate, so it isn't subject to the same testing in the US
mthreat: asciilifeform: you're probably referring to the brand-new price. the cessna 400 is a "certificated" aircraft, which means it costs more because it had to go through more FAA testing
mthreat: but it was built by columbia before cessna acquired them
asciilifeform: and why does it cost 3x what the albatross (jet!) does
mircea_popescu: shinohai no, they just don't belong irl. girl has a point.
shinohai: The only person I have ever met that hated Argentines more than mircea_popescu was this girl I dated from Chile .... but evidently there is this long-standing hatred between the dos paises.
mircea_popescu: mthreat that was the idea lol.
mircea_popescu: afaik landing is the killer. if you get to land 1 hour fresher it's also worth the risk.
mthreat: i wouldn't only pack a life vest, i'd wear it the whole flight!
mthreat: if I can add 1 hour to the travel time and eliminate that risk, sometimes it's worth it
mthreat: water ditchings are pretty survivable, but on a non-retractable plane like mine, the risk of flipping over is real
mircea_popescu: eh get out. for one thing the gulf is so fucking populated you'd be picked up in three hours. for the other, the thing flies better over water.
mircea_popescu: cr is a tiny nation, doesn't need to do anything in particular to survive. but at least they have the intelligence to produce cash crops like coffee rathert than commodity crops like fucking soy.
mthreat: 1379 nautical miles. 1 fuel stop minimum, probably more, unless I want to fly directly over the gulf
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it HAS!!!11 pretenses of industry. if you ask the average fucktard they think themselves an industrialized nation. irl they farm soy and try to borrow for a living.
mircea_popescu: though in fairness the argentines have been argentining for a whole lot longer than cable tv existed. they're just bad stock.
mircea_popescu had nfi idea what racism is ; and imagined it's mostly pretended. not so. i HATE argentines, fundamentally, and the only reason there's not 40 mn corpses in limed pits right now is that i don't have the pits.