Framedragger: re. per minute, i guess i should reach out to consult first eh - this was borne from a solipsistic "me as a customer" consideration: e.g. i want to test out some trb feature across multiple different instances, i need good i/o and memory; monthly costs would not be trivial (for the purpose at hand), so i wish to be charged on smaller timescales.
Framedragger: again, yes i understand, but really depends on application/purpose. being able to assign IPs from different c blocks is (eventually) desirable, but may be too steep in the beginning.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "different ips" in the sense of, "same box, same c block" is somewhat naive. they're not that different.
Framedragger: (or, becomes cost-effective if users commit to more extended periods of time; i suppose the thing would have to be flexible re. latter, anyway. i may want to spin something up for testing purposes just for the evening; or, i may want the thing for months+ (with expectation for a discount.))
Framedragger: unless of course one finds a provider which can provision physical boxes in a matter of minutes programatically, but the whole thing would then be a bit like a reseller-for-bitcoin, no?
Framedragger: it would, however, require having more than one physical box at-the-ready. which is fine and how providers work anyway, but the matter becomes cost-effective only at some degree of scale, then.
Framedragger: but i can certainly understand the separate-machine constraint for mirroring etc.
Framedragger: well, for purposes other than mirroring (CDN'y purposes), it could be useful. e.g. when i had to spin up 13 vps instances at once, i only cared that they had separate (dedicated) resources and IPs
mircea_popescu: why would i want 2 instances on the same box/ip ?
Framedragger: (costs could almost-equalise at scale, but until then, it'd be more costly i would think.)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-02#1650908 << i assume that here you meant "separate physically", even though the context was a discussion about vps? there could of course be a knob (separate instances, or separate instances on different boxen; the latter attracts a higher cost).
mircea_popescu: lenovo did use it to persist, i recall the scandal.
mats: get the right bytes in memory and windows will execute arbitrary PE file
a111: Logged on 2015-08-12 21:41 ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about this anywhere on the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link to the Google Cache since it's a .docx file) and in a random
shinohai: Perhaps her owner got tired of dragging her out from under the bed and removed the frame to ensure compliance.
trinque: put a sheet on your bed god, and get it off the floor
mircea_popescu: and in other teenage interest items, https://68.media.tumblr.com/909efedec17f394a7c236fcb23b89fa9/tumblr_o3209tAfC81tgdz6ro1_1280.jpg
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/02/the-oilers-2017-playoff-run-and-other-municipal-musings-on-the-parking-lot-formerly-known-as-the-city-of-champions/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The Oilers’ 2017 Playoff Run and other municipal musings on the parking lot formerly known as the City of Champions.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well, while i of course agree in general, i don't agree in particular: i'd certainly find it useful to be able to supply a "curl phuctor stats every 24h, serve here" instruction. or, you know, "submit key", or "comments", or anything else of the sorts.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no. no fucking payload. the web has no business being in state.
Framedragger: so in this case it'd just be static content hosting, which is minimal on cpu etc.; there could of course also be an option of supplying a (signed, of course) payload, but less clear on definite application.
mircea_popescu: and this is a bona fide economically useful service, mind you, it'd entirely cut the whole "cloud" business at the knees, seeing how 99% of all the actual value they deliver is ~this, execpt at 100x the financial and 10`000x the administrative cost.
mircea_popescu: there's really no need for domain names generally, and certainly no actual utility in this application.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so the url would contain what, static contents for web serving?
mircea_popescu: then we could just maintain static versions of trilema, qntra and anything else tar-gz'd and ready to go.
Framedragger: there is a question just how much would people use it. of course, best market research is testing the market itself...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes, something like that. same !!v principle. user gets ssh login. billed (if at all) by the minute, or the likes.
mircea_popescu: well it was sort-of in the logs, at least in general, but it's still a very cool idea very much needed. scriba-based provisioning or what ?
shinohai: yup using hashbang for now, though plans are to move the whole shebang (pun intended) at some point this year.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: only in the form of air being in the middle between antenna and shitty access point in cafe, in this case heh.
mircea_popescu: is there some very inept mitm going on ?
mircea_popescu: you know shinohai had the same problem earlier ?
Framedragger: yesyes, "not in wot" is central nail in coffin against any of these, sure. (nevertheless could be useful for certain isolated efforts, e.g. ip space scanning and so on.)
Framedragger: yesyes, "not in wot" is central nail in coffin against any of these, sure. (nevertheless could be useful for certain isolated efforts, e.g. ip space scanning and so on.)
Framedragger: in other news, was checking extant bitcoin (yes, "bitcoin", i hear the scoffing) vps offerings. seems to consist of things like https://libertyvps.net/offshore-hosting which has "offshore" and "our NL datacenter" in same sentence
a111: Logged on 2017-04-29 12:43 mircea_popescu: aaand in not-really-news : avalance in retezat (romanian mountain) killed a few kids that were european and world record holders in mountain-related items. ro "our democracy" media railing about how the trainer (also father of one of the victims) "forced his two daughters to break record after record while training in EXTREME CONDITIONS!!!1 ONLY TO SATISFY HIS OWN EGOTISM!!1111"
mircea_popescu: then 15 years later they're having "a conversation" on ~~facebook~~ about things ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-29#1649833 ) and expect to be taken seriously, and for their INCREDIBLY offensive tone to pass as socially acceptable. the romanians of facebook, disgusting crawlies that came out of the eggs laid by the "romanians on ms office" repugnant creepies.
mircea_popescu: to them it seemed natural to get a govt job and explore what the computer "lets them" do
mircea_popescu: it started once "romanian language" became a thing, they started hawking keyboards for it and "localized ms office" and bullshit.
asciilifeform: 'buy a phreedomboot box, it lets you change the icon font'
mircea_popescu: sure as fuck no one in 2009 was willing to buy the 2009 crap.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 18:41 mircea_popescu: count for 100% just as soon as they stop telling themselves the 0% story to get to the slop like the rest of the pigs.
mircea_popescu: ie, if the current http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-01#1650556 dorks keep at it, by 2025 we'll be buying up the shit of today because it'd be better than the shit of by-then.
asciilifeform: perhaps they'll even make a show of 'here, go ahead, turn off amt'
asciilifeform: let the gnu idiots think 'we fixed', etc
asciilifeform: it is even possible that 'kaby' (latest chip) already has it. hence the burn.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally: i fully expect the ~next~ generation of intel fritz to use nic-independent trigger (e.g., magic string in memory)
Framedragger: b-b-but they have a list of approved ports and they would only use them approved ports!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but just make it incompatible with internet. nic / "router" / whatever item which a) sprays out numbers just like current but b) does all the alf magic routing + encryption + etc.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you think they use distinguishable magic packets, think again
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "not on cisco equipment" part == "incompatible nic".
mircea_popescu: not exactly undoable, either, but not much of a priority as we don't have yet a tmsr internet spec.
asciilifeform: 'Whitelist-only networking may help contain the vulnerability, provided of course that it's not implemented on Cisco equipment.' sounded like it was about lan filtration, so not same idea
mircea_popescu: it's even in the qntra treatment.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-02#1650813 << hn is copying #trilema, years after the fact, and with the full faith and credit of imbecility lent to the pretense that they are not.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-02 01:14 asciilifeform: whether lizard hitler alone, or 10,001 scriptkiddie derps, have the key, is immaterial
BingoBoingo: Sometimes there are weird exceptions to ethanol free lake gas being great for small motors, some of the 4-cycle hondas have trouble with octane numbers over 89 and the ethanol free lake stuff is the premium 91, 93, or 94 octane
BingoBoingo: Ethanol free gas also very useful for 2-cycle power equipment because carb'd rather than fuel injected (for now)
BingoBoingo: You'd be suprised the amount of water "Up to 10% ethanol" can absorb
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 21:11 deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/01/youre-not-saving-anything-at-the-pumps-with-cheap-gas/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - You’re not saving anything at the pumps with cheap gas.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-01#1650704 << over here, all 3 grades of petrol are 10% etoh << aha. i recalled that your swampy corner of the continent was so afflicted. california is even worse iirc.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 22:24 Framedragger: re https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&languageid=en-fr (released today) (AMT (part of intel's ME) mega-vulnerable (shocker i know)), will just remind x220 fans that those laptops are 'biznis grade' and hence have AMT in them.
mats: and claims as to 'our team was looking for hardware backdoors' when the guy's a 'journalist' is dubious at best
asciilifeform: btw pete_dushenski would appreciate the scene : old pickup truck on street, sign 'for sale' : 28k usd.
asciilifeform: tbh i have nfi why the local market is what it is. maybe racing-grade custom shitanium boatz.
mircea_popescu: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peterborough-Canoe-Natural-Finish-36-Wooden-Handmade-Row-Boat-Model-NEW-/282282237687 << the $200 model.
asciilifeform: whether lizard hitler alone, or 10,001 scriptkiddie derps, have the key, is immaterial
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 22:24 Framedragger: re https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&languageid=en-fr (released today) (AMT (part of intel's ME) mega-vulnerable (shocker i know)), will just remind x220 fans that those laptops are 'biznis grade' and hence have AMT in them.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 22:37 Framedragger: funny: if one were to follow intel's route of patching firmware, as regards say x220s, lenovo gives update in the form of windows executables
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-01#1650717 << dun look like any other patch is available, or planned
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform was just now in a dock yard. readers may be enlightened to learn that 8k usd does not even buy a rowboat. y'know, the kind with oars.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 19:37 mircea_popescu: the lulz of all fucking time, a grand bought his father a new life 25 years ago ; i just did the household accounting, my petty cash line is a shade over $8`000. that excludes rents like it excludes isp bills or agents on a mission or anything else worth the fucking mention. a grand would buy me half a week's worth of groceries, taking a girl out or buying her some random dress we saw in the window so she comes out of the sho
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 21:11 deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/01/youre-not-saving-anything-at-the-pumps-with-cheap-gas/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - You’re not saving anything at the pumps with cheap gas.
mircea_popescu: trinque more like, yet another case of bad dns implemented ad-hoc by pretenders.
trinque: yeah, sorta tape over "we don't own the ircd"
Framedragger: almost as if the thing would need to wait and then send a challenge to that same nick, but this is kinda promisetronic i guess.
mircea_popescu: trinque there's a vulnerability in how deedbot handles registrations in that even with nick enforcing on, one has enough time before chanserv kicks him off (2-3 seconds ?) to shoot a reg string at deedbot and get the name registered to his key.
Framedragger: "tl;dr: OVH had an issue where your second network card was connected to other servers in the datacenter. This allowed you to run a DHCP server and offer a gateway. This also allows you to MITM several machines outbound traffic, I had 35 machines responding back with DHCP Leases and about 4 routing outbound traffic to me as their router."
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1646987 << heh https://jrwr.io/doku.php?id=blog:ovh_vrack_security_issue (they did respond and amend fairly quickly, but srsly)
Framedragger: funny: if one were to follow intel's route of patching firmware, as regards say x220s, lenovo gives update in the form of windows executables
mircea_popescu: eh, they'll be happily churning along years from now. just look at the debian keys or openssh horrors etc.
Framedragger: *actually*, one needs to ask their hosting providers if AMT is enabled (BIOS setting), wouldn't hurt
Framedragger: re https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&languageid=en-fr (released today) (AMT (part of intel's ME) mega-vulnerable (shocker i know)), will just remind x220 fans that those laptops are 'biznis grade' and hence have AMT in them.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/01/youre-not-saving-anything-at-the-pumps-with-cheap-gas/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - You’re not saving anything at the pumps with cheap gas.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: in theory, any objections to a dc located in india ?
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "saving" as alf referenced previous discussion because this "saving" is fundamentally and at its core an anti-concept. "how to be powerless while retaining power". nigga, wut ?
mircea_popescu: nobody said you gotta be a figment of some redditard's imagination, now did they.
mircea_popescu: yes. the alternative to not being a creature of this world is BEING a creature of this world.
Framedragger: i suppose the alternative is not necessarily "buy up bitcoin" (somehow stuck in mind), but invest in business (and possibly (non-nato, or w/e) real estate). (not against my current plans, just, can't do all at once (yet))
mircea_popescu: if a million dollars buys you a decent meal in another 25 years you should count yourself lucky, and that's only 2042, 8 more to go to 2050.
mircea_popescu: p looking just like the display only better.
mircea_popescu: the lulz of all fucking time, a grand bought his father a new life 25 years ago ; i just did the household accounting, my petty cash line is a shade over $8`000. that excludes rents like it excludes isp bills or agents on a mission or anything else worth the fucking mention. a grand would buy me half a week's worth of groceries, taking a girl out or buying her some random dress we saw in the window so she comes out of the sho
mircea_popescu: it is fundamentally toxic, yes. this is how you ended up with so many "naive premise can't disagree with other partrs" etc.
Framedragger: i use wikipedia for quick lookup of $topic sometimes; i also use it as "collection of references to other places" thing. is this fundamentally toxic? maybe.
Framedragger: so the disagreement stems from that (naive) premise. other parts of reasoning i cannot disagree with, of course.
mircea_popescu: and don't tell me "that people themselves should be able to choose". people themselves are morons, will gladly "choose" frozen tacos if given that "choice".
mircea_popescu: what is the problem ?
mircea_popescu: so explain this to me. yesterday i was in ##crypto. after a while i... left. this has the blessed effect that the inept idiocies spewed by some immature dickheads no longer befoul my timeline. turkey allowed wikipedia. then after a while it turned it off. this has the blessed effect thjat immature dickheads no longer befoul its timeline.
Framedragger: they blocked wikipedia like 2 days ago heh
mircea_popescu: let them show me this wonder.
mircea_popescu: eh they have my foot.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: they have massive firewall, blocking at will. could be not a problem, depending on business case of customers of course. and i guess the counter would be "everyone does"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lol if people want boxes racked in the heart of the empire i can do it for 100/mo for a 2U
Framedragger: unfortunately northern syria (rojava) uses internet via turkish radio towers (checked / had chat with them once). that'd be an interesting location (kurdish autonomous region; i mean, while it lasts....)
mircea_popescu: i'd have bought in mossul had the idiots been a little less inept
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if the baltics are technically in nato per http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm, this leaves approx. russia, china, japan, korea, and... ?
mircea_popescu: eh, better to overprovision than to underprovision these things. but no, not yet.
Framedragger: pete_dushenski: curious how much they'd quote for 256 GB ECC ram :) (phuctor)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski montreal is not part of the world.
mircea_popescu: well, "the made-1k-realpeoplecurrency-bought flat and cheap hooker in socialistan" anecdote has naught to do with "saving"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you happen to recall when we had the thread re 'saving' being a magical-thinking delusion as a concept ?
trinque: BUT THE THIRD SHALL STAND
trinque: I dunno how a kid from .lt thinks whichever govt is everlasting; even the last two cocks that fucked them in the ass withered
mircea_popescu: "framedragger's dad hjad the sense to leave shitistan, worked for dollars in 1991, came back with 1k bought flat, spawned kid, who is too dumb to leave shitistan and work for bitcoin, make 1k, perpetuate the cycle"
asciilifeform: Framedragger: moreover, there does not exist such a place as from which they won't steal it. whenever they feel like it.
mircea_popescu: ass-backwards logic you got going there.
mircea_popescu: that the braindead fiat of the local socialists was going to outlive the at-the-time republic-of-smart-people currency ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: also recall the 'tx replacement' thread. classical btc has uncorrectable birth defects.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: theoretically. but tx grow in number, and ssd grows no cheaper.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "different fiats". the chinese made a usd-counerparty-fiat just for the purpose of insulating usg from their economy.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tell you what, review what your grandparents earned in usd when they were your age, figure out how well they'd live on it today.
Framedragger: (just to be clear, this is another is/ought, i was doing the "is" (imho) part ^, not "ought", of course)
mircea_popescu: saving in usd, though. for retirement. this gotta take the cake.
ben_vulpes: the latter at least is fixable.
mircea_popescu: rather.
asciilifeform: 0 of btc, either, geometric db death.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no chance~ of an usd in 2050.
mircea_popescu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/bd01c81c0c708e3e995ab86652ea19d2/tumblr_ofxifw8zgz1vvfoleo1_500.gif to continue the picrelated trend.
mircea_popescu: "count for 100% just as soon as they stop telling themselves the 0% story to get to the slop like the rest of the pigs."
mircea_popescu: consider : even if i somehow decided to sell a girl, there exists no one who can meaningfully pay for her. what "money" ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you managed to miss the esr poverty discussion and the debian dork murder and the devil's leaves metaphore and everything else.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the point you elide is that all that fiatola "money" is not actually anything.
mircea_popescu: "whisperers" as alf calls them.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there is that. point is, world is ~sheep (when approximated/rounded), they have fiatbux/lifedebtbux, they don't care about these things, intel's profits come at scale, hence investing into "decent tech" is not business-viable. is all i'm sayin'.
mircea_popescu: the prototype of the former being of course naggum, who would have some rather pointed questions to answer hadn't he taken the easy way out. most of the rest aren't quite that hard stuff, live a life of living death instead, cowering in their basement from tmsr emails etc.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: whatever things the folx who happily swallow intel cock might do -- 'thinking' is not a legitimate description of any of it
mircea_popescu: either "momentary lapse into lucidity" by dubious author with VERY clenched teeth, usually decade+ old ; or else cat-v/##crypto/tardstalk/reddit/tedx/etcetera.
Framedragger: yes but this is a bit circular, one of those "prove P: if tmsr, then P; ergo, P"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger and why are they capable of hiring anything but sheilas ?
asciilifeform: well for one thing, ~nobody runs linux, they run rathead, africa, other 'i can't believe it's not's
Framedragger: they just use linux and do not give a fuck about getting fucked in ass if money keeps flowing in. money from business and customers who *are not* high-principled powerusers
mircea_popescu: Framedragger and why don't they.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: that's the more dramatic take on it; the other one is "most of linux powerusers are dirt poor, and there aren't many of them [and the companies which *run* on linux do not count as part of the former group.]"
mircea_popescu: count for 100% just as soon as they stop telling themselves the 0% story to get to the slop like the rest of the pigs.
asciilifeform: the britney buyers -- for ~100%.
Framedragger: and yet and yet, all them new xeons....
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do smart people stand up agaionst the empire of stupid ? BY NOT BEING PART OF IT. hurr.
mircea_popescu: then they wanna go around pretending like fucking goats is somehow obscene. had they fucked goats instead they'd be quite a lot more respectable.
mircea_popescu: and all this happened because well, the dorks that were supposed to stand up against it were jwzing.
Framedragger: (at least in intel ME, from slides i infer that if it doesn't detect the "ME firmware part in BIOS flash", it doesn't even turn on?)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: no, but the src of the separate kernel at the very least. "gotta start somewhere", again. but yeah i know, sisyphus much
Framedragger: amd "kinda said" they may release full src for coreboot et al., but obvs no dice yet
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah apparently. but gotta start somewhere. and yeh i understand that shit's different *again* since then
mircea_popescu: shinohai so basically this is the monero unraveling / going away party or what.
mircea_popescu: and in other 56th wave feminisms, https://68.media.tumblr.com/0e8eb89bd01e55b9063a0c1b812f6d8f/tumblr_ngqdo4wLx41sxfvmgo4_1280.jpg
Framedragger: summary of short chat with cherryservers (hey can't hurt): they used to offer colo but do no more (hmh); they "may" consider attaching "arduino-sized" (my description) hardware device, will report back tomorrow after consulting with technicians when they are in.
shinohai: Heh `anonymint` reborn locked that other thread, is evidently working on some new vaporware: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837136.msg18597183#msg18597183
mircea_popescu: Framedragger or they have a 3 ring binder, or whatever the fuck. why should i debug their process when instead i could debug yours.
mircea_popescu: which, to resolve ~that~ problem, alone eats plenty of yearly thousands of dollars. it alone, the loss leader of one of the projects etc.
Framedragger: could it be legitimate concern of space in their cramped cages that they are worrying about? (i know, naive interpretation)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it could even be the case that the 'no, we won't plug your box in' are not in fact selling physical boxes. but instead are fraudulently peddling vmtron
mircea_popescu: it was an isp. one that on the price front is pretty cool but on the service front sucks.
mircea_popescu: i mean of course you'll colocate boxes, this is what you do. isp places his boxes in a datacenter, it's the job description.
mircea_popescu: i don't get what the problem with colocating boxes is supposed to be. pro tip : every box in every rack in every datacenter on planet earth WAS COLOCATED THERE.
Framedragger: cherryservers do seem nice but their nato affiliation is over 9000 hah
Framedragger: some providers may agree to attach usb devices. iirc (possibly) leaseweb. (based in .nl, i know, but they also fought some 'give us yer customers' cases iirc)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wonder how the ssl idiots handle this ( they have, or at least at one time had, hardware accelerators for their nonsense . did they also have to pay for entire machine colo, to plug in the 1 board ?? )
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah, but they don't offer colo, at least upon initial glance. can send query, of course. but may as well deal with their upstream DCs
mircea_popescu: russia is not without its own problems but having a dc there is certainly a sound plan.
Framedragger: yepyep. i must say that i had not dealt with them directly, ever. but it came up in my 'ok so what actual non-nato providers/DCs could i use?'
asciilifeform: the linked isp even offers year-long parcel
mircea_popescu: ~any isp will open you a wire channel if you're paying them substantially. pay them quarterly, it'll be substantial enough.
Framedragger: if there is a will!..
asciilifeform: or hm, nm, they also eat 'visa' etc
Framedragger: btw, if anyone is considering doing the isp thing, one of the potential providers which offers colo is https://pinspb.ru/ (doesn't look serious i know, but after some research it turns out to have close ties to 2x4.ru, and that's not a bad sign.)
asciilifeform: gotta wonder what the 'market depth' is.
mircea_popescu: the 4gz fx 8370 goes for 150 bux, used. and so on.
shinohai still wants one of mircea_popescu 's thinkpads from back in the day ....
mircea_popescu: respectable profit in what sense, i'll trade my time for fiatollars and then what ?
mircea_popescu: ever at all WITH THEIR FUCKING LIFE
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same argument could be made re mp's bitcoins, mp's slavegirls, mp's anythings yes ? how much would a girl properly trained sell for, seeing how the fucking shah of brunei can't, apparently, find one, and not for lack of trying ? subquestion : what THE FUCK is "respectable" supposed to mean in a world where apparently mp is the only one who has shit and everyone else will resist getting ~~~~~~ANY~~~~~ shit whatso
asciilifeform: incidentally, if it turns out that mircea_popescu had in fact buried 10,001 opterons somewhere in the desert, now'd be the time to dig'em up. and profit margin will be very respectable.
mircea_popescu: is it from the experience of being a businessman, or is it from the experience of being a cocksucker, begging this and that, like the schmuck i just negrated ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'll mention one thing tho: you cited "$10k+ / year" figures and all that, but just ftr i don't believe the actual *profit margin* (vs. revenue) would be decent. that said, this should of course be researched.
asciilifeform: ( if mircea_popescu needed a 2009opteron for own use -- asciilifeform could, in principle, help. but if he needed a rack-house filled with them -- the gods themselves, could not help. )
Framedragger: the "but we begged" is quite rich, omg
asciilifeform: HAVING THE FUCKING FRITZ CHIP is the backdoor. not somebody-not-nsa-learning-the-key.
Framedragger: olook the backdoor is an actual backdoor! good call on opteron asciilifeform :)
asciilifeform: 'You have them on your machine. You really need to turn them off' << except they dun come with an off switch.
asciilifeform read linked piece 3x, did not find disclosure of the 0day
asciilifeform: ' Richard Stallman was right about firmware, and there are alternatives now too.' << 'alternatives' link goes to, guess what, vapour
asciilifeform: 'Intel has plans on when to issue “reactive” NDAs to customers several weeks before the “proactive” and “public” disclosures. ' << gold
mircea_popescu: "First a little bit of background. SemiAccurate has known about this vulnerability for literally years now, it came up in research we were doing on hardware backdoors over five years ago. What we found was scary on a level that literally kept us up at night. For obvious reasons we couldnt publish what we found out but we took every opportunity to beg anyone who could even tangentially influence the right people to do somet
mircea_popescu: and the idiots "begged intel to fix it for years" and never said a peep.
jurov: The short version is that every Intel platform with AMT, ISM, and SBT from Nehalem in 2008 to Kaby Lake in 2017 has a remotely exploitable security hole in the ME (Management Engine) not CPU firmware.
mircea_popescu: what fucking choice! THIS is the choice. what choice was it ?
mircea_popescu: this nonsensical pretense that there's somehow "choice" and "people have it" gotta be the #1 driver of the socialist empire of idiots.
shinohai goes to the swamp to revel in lulz
mircea_popescu: exactly like the braindead strippers who wouldn't pick up a bitcoin for free because hey, "professional" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: shinohai ^ post that in there, at least when i get to boil them in oil right and proper they get to hurr durr at the fact that they ~actually had the text before their eyes~
mircea_popescu: and then when i want them boiled in oil i'm supposed to give explanations or something ? hurr.
mircea_popescu: "oh, there's a game that actually works, run by the only guy who actually has money or understands business in this cloud of idiots. tell you what -- we'll pretend to be offended at "fuckgoats" and stick with some utter derpitude run by a mentally ill runt. then a year or two years or whatever later we'll go ... "unfortunately" and act like no one could have fucking predicted".
mircea_popescu: these FUCKTARDED IMBECILES.
mircea_popescu: "It is unfortunate that what was once a promising game with many contributors in the community has turned into a scam, but such as it is."
ben_vulpes: shinohai: that's...the tortilla?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and in other news : do you enjoy traveling ? is your idea of traveling to walk for hours among the strange bazaars of distant lands ? does the cushion for the pushin' whine that her feet hurt and that she's thirsty and hurr durr ? there are solutions! https://68.media.tumblr.com/469792dfd1e169230c2349eb69afd23c/tumblr_ocm867cZ1O1ukrdklo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: and point the woman towards #eulora, what.
mircea_popescu: guy bemoans lack of lisp style tagged data in today's world of shit ; refuses WITH THE CUTTING OF THE HEAD to structure and tag anything no matter what. wtf is wrong with you.
mircea_popescu: that way you'll end up with your blog linked by random idiots with delusions of grandeur in the future, exactly like it happened in the past.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 03:52 asciilifeform: in other noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/m3LQl/?raw=true << egyptian mul. with slightly better comments
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-01#1650363 << dude. put the double carry mult-with-overflow-detection on your blog. with a proper and complete discussion. with log references. THEN, ~link it~ from your ~actual software~ via the comments.
scriba: Logged on 2017-05-01: [02:11:19] <mircea_popescu> Framedragger btw you gonna re-do the scan for 2017 ?
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170501/#20 << ah, yes! that is definitely in the plan. in june or july, conservatively say july!
asciilifeform: surprisingly tough, because the OF bit is ~not~, as is in the case of familiar add/substract, the next bit of the product ! (which, observe earlier, can actually be 0 in the case of some overflows) but stands for merely the fact that P != X*Y .
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/m3LQl/?raw=true << egyptian mul. with slightly better comments
mod6: Ladies & Gentlemen of TMSR~: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-May/000263.html
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 02:07 mircea_popescu: in other hydraulics, https://68.media.tumblr.com/03c225e1a79025b4401f886571cd02e6/tumblr_o7z8mtGSO11r2u49wo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: Framedragger btw you gonna re-do the scan for 2017 ?
mircea_popescu: in other hydraulics, https://68.media.tumblr.com/03c225e1a79025b4401f886571cd02e6/tumblr_o7z8mtGSO11r2u49wo1_500.gif
Framedragger: yes sure, there is that.
asciilifeform: ( not to mention the idiot 'attribution' thing. why the hell would usg ~not~ broadcast false bgp to point to rutelecom. )
asciilifeform: 'On Wednesday, large chunks of network traffic belonging to MasterCard, Visa, and more than two dozen other financial services companies were briefly routed through a Russian government-controlled telecom under unexplained circumstances that renew lingering questions about the trust and reliability of some of the most sensitive Internet communications.' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/NmfNI << when usg bgp-hijacks - 0 press, unsurprise. when ru -- mass panic ( e.g. https://archive.is/ZYy6z )
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you can actually also change the dialogs skin the same way, the character models, the skybox / ground, pretty much everything whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: to quote "the high standard or mathematical discussion" folk, http://trilema.com/2017/how-i-found-some-area-of-expertise-in-mathematical-cryptography-one-expects-to-find-here-and-there-plus-divers-spots-missed-while-shaving/#selection-705.0-666.26
asciilifeform: and now you've given him 3x the 'broadcast', neh