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asciilifeform: took this long for ~all mention of the original to fade away...
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Loper OS » A Complete Pill for the Sage SmartProbe .: <http://www.loper-os.org/%3Fp%3D1667>; Loper OS » Sage SmartProbe FAQ: <http://www.loper-os.org/%3Fp%3D1887>; Loper OS » The Care and Feeding of the Sage SmartProbe .: <http://www.loper-os.org/%3Fp%3D1821>
mircea_popescu: for all i know dood hasn't even found that clicking plate with square nubbins on it for the past eight months.
mircea_popescu: there doesn't seem to be more rhyme or reason behind their decisions / behaviours / choices / "engineering" generally speaking than behind movement of clouds.
mircea_popescu: honestly, from the past few years of involvement with "software engineers", i can squarely say i have no fucking idea what goes on in their heads, but if it came to light they're just randomly squirming like froglegs on electric plating i wouldn't be much surprised.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : no word from the dh d00d, eh
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in pointless selfies trying to pretend like they're participation and message-y and whatnot, https://68.media.tumblr.com/672f03fddc8bd7293e7b6da7414d9bfb/tumblr_ntrixopVy91s3qr6wo1_1280.jpg
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu enjoyed reading the sage faq.
mircea_popescu: and if anyone has any objections, hey! "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" or how did the http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/niggers-rights-by-randall-munroe-560x570.png bullshit go.
mircea_popescu: start giving them six months for going around dressed and obnoxious shit like that, i say.
mircea_popescu: about 2.55mn women in jail by fall, to sit there two or three decades at the latest.
mircea_popescu: i would say that in order to rectify historical injustices, there's strict need for about
asciilifeform: ^ the reddit folx had a word.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: What do feminists think about the ' glass cellar '? - Quora: <https://www.quora.com/What-do-feminists-think-about-the-glass-cellar>; Who cares if men are stuck in a glass cellar ? (They can change the ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2146979/Who-cares-men-stuck-glass-cellar--They-change-bulb-theyre-there.html>; Glass cellar vs Glass ceiling (85% of the worst rated jobs are held by ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: this DOESN'T constitute some sort of misandrism, and it's NOT time to change the laws to you know, punish more girly shit ? how about 5 years in jail for watching netflix without a partner, speaking in a shirll tone, being fat or being obnoxious ? and striking male crimes suck as you know, fucking, from the books ?
mircea_popescu: men in the federal system.
mircea_popescu: and to continue the penitentiary discussion : i don't seem to see all the fuckwits insisting that black dudes being jailed constitutes some kind of racism etc notice that a) google will serve you the "37% non-hispanic blacks" figure on a search for "us inmate population by gender" front and center, because who cares what you're actually searching for, have some nigger figures in any case and b) there's only 12k women for 175k
mircea_popescu: did they catch the homeless dude responsible or still shopping around ?
asciilifeform: is it given to anyone to properly grasp the mechanics of the selfsame woodchipper he is being ground in ?
mircea_popescu: orwell, technically, was physically present in india the dominion. similarly, failed to understand the working of the mechanical details, similarily for all the shit between the eyes : more committed to not admitting he's a shithead than to understanding anything.
mircea_popescu: the contention is that he wasn't in any position to understand the working of the mechanical details, for all the shit between his eyes.
asciilifeform: afaik d00d lied strictly re political, rather than mechanical, details.
mircea_popescu: doesn't really have much to do with either prison, or my book.
mircea_popescu: the item was not yet borne into being that'll force me to include anything. he's welcome to figure prominently in any she-anglotard "story of prison".
mircea_popescu: and for the record i've not that much respect for solzhenitsyn. yes, very accomplished child, child nevertheless. so he famously went and told mommy things and mommy really cared. good for the fucking tuna ; meanwhile what the fuck is he to know about the point in discussion.
mircea_popescu: if the dorks outside don't slosh too hard, what're you gonna get.
mircea_popescu: you only get bitch wars when there's a ww2.
asciilifeform: then klapaucius unplugged the lispm.
asciilifeform: i'm neither solzhenitsyn, nor even weev, but would seem to me that this'd depend ~entirely on the other jailbirds
mircea_popescu: reddit users were rendered obsolete by "ai" back in the days of minsky.
asciilifeform: in other lolmatics, https://archive.is/MVqGZ >> 'As bitcoin rises, Mt Gox approaches solvency (vs. claims). Now Reddit users are asking @MagicalTux to reopen. They even new designed logos.'
trinque: ever closer to the goo-tube life
mircea_popescu: then again fwih ru prisons also went to shit. all hope left is i guess brazil ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. this phf` - enabled short survey through the us penitentiary culture leaves me unimpressed. not much of a culture, is it.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the keyword being "you".
mircea_popescu: gimme a break, anyone who's someone can get a bottle or two of whatever they like. wtf.
mircea_popescu: ah ok then
mircea_popescu: wtf is with all the ramen anyway. they've no pasta where these people live ?
mircea_popescu: see, alfie ? social behaviour. the dude will gladly state a nonsense to the outgroup (us) to gratify the ingroup. he's not even a part of it notably, but he aspires to see himself and hopes to be seen by us as if he were.
mircea_popescu: "Quite frankly some of the tastiest food I have ever eaten was cooked in the microwave by inmates." o brother.
mircea_popescu: phf` seems you have an interest in the item ?
mircea_popescu: well my experience is ancient and from outside the best korea
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, none of the people i knew in jail ever complained.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i expect prison food is a shade below rather than a shade above what they feed the cattle normally at the mall food court.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about the last point. they used to pay someone for just that, in the middle ages.
asciilifeform: or that the other subtle torments dissolve the man. e.g. what they feed him, or the light that never goes off, or guard waking up hourly at night.
mircea_popescu: that nobody makes use of the library part seems rather a comment on the nobody.
mircea_popescu: it seems rather certain at this point that us "SHU" ~= being locked in library.
phf`: the one dude who reads through chemistry textbook in solitary also probably doesn't make the headlines of "horrors of solitary"
asciilifeform: but kakzynsky did manage to get hold of paper, there's that.
asciilifeform skeptical of these supposed features
mircea_popescu: and no, definitely can get books. apparently no actual limit, either! mostly because... nobody ever fucking wants any.
mircea_popescu: apparently they can even make phone calls o.O
asciilifeform: follows 'bathtub curve', like every other wear part.
mircea_popescu: truth be told, the human brain isn't either intented or designed to exceed 30 years of continuous abuse.
asciilifeform: you get the scenario in 'chess novella' - madness.
mircea_popescu: still, the boredom angle... let them prove all the theorems yes ?
asciilifeform: in american supermax they, iirc, do not
mircea_popescu: it's not implemented by the batiscaphe, at least not usually.
mircea_popescu: afaik they get a book a week or some shit, i dunno, haven't followed.
mircea_popescu: if your theory of man had any feet, solitary confinment weren't regarded as the mother of all torture. physiologically, people lose their minds. maybe you or i wouldn't care, or maybe we think so in our ridiculous, adolescentine misapprehension. but this anecdote doesn't do much.
mircea_popescu: monkeys are social rather than solitary. this goes with "have two limbs and opposable thumbs". how exactly they make use of those limbs or invest that sociality is also up for grabs, but doesn't speak to the principle.
asciilifeform: prison is not part of man's physiology either, and escape is not pathology, wtf
mircea_popescu: they can't be not-inmates.
mircea_popescu: us environment threats, such as you know, other civilisations, volcanoes and aliens landing is entirely up for grabs. these points make the good/bad adequate/inadequate distinction, not whether the "inmates" "like" it in their "hearts of hearts". for one thing they're not inmates, lacking the capacity of outmating ; for the other thing they can't like and for the third they've no heart of hearts.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653759 << no, no. the sad fact of the matter is that what people want is without exception stupid and harmful. not even one, both. a functional civilisation provides people with a good story as to why they're getting something other than what they want. whether what they actually get happens to also be a) what they actually need, as opposed to $random ; b) actually competitive with the vario
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653746 << lizards are for practical purposes ~immortal , but they do sometimes die of ennui. sometimes this takes the form of dope od.
asciilifeform: whereas even in recent past, say 19th c britain, crown did not give half a fuck if you preferred opium to society. or whether you wanted to get on a boat and never be met with again, etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653756 << well noshit.jpg, it motors along whether the inmates like it or not
mircea_popescu: but this promises to be yet another pandora box. obviously and of course.
mircea_popescu: but these days, even the fine motor control of hominid ain't worth jack. and so...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the premise for civilisation competing with dope od is finally here. prior to recently, the dorks were still needed for muscular power -- first, brute, then, finely controled by a cns, primitive as it was.
BingoBoingo: Anyways how would the CIA lizards have any money at all without their trafficking business
a111: Logged on 2014-06-18 00:36 asciilifeform: interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up
asciilifeform: 'sub-dissociative' nonsense, yes, for you an' me; opio-cocainiferous goodness by the gigatonne, until head explodes, if he wants, for lizardman.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: brought to you by the same 400 yr puritan blight as 'graham cracker' ( look it up, the original ~deliberately designed~ shitfood , for mortification-of-the-flesh )
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Alcoholism, Bitcoin, and the timeless infant republic saved BingoBoingo from possible Sam-ism
mircea_popescu: lol. bb is a fan of the sampam story ?
BingoBoingo: WoT coupled with handshakes is all that remains as opposed to the time where WoT was also coupled with BitBet
asciilifeform: so then.
asciilifeform: and bbet users decided whether to put coin in it, exactly how ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in other lulz from ye olde heathendom, https://archive.is/Cvsb7 << Well for quite some time now there's been no serious betting venue outside of WoT and handshakes.
shinohai decides to go the distance, channel inner Gregor Mendel, and await fruit flies.....
mircea_popescu: time them like an arrow!
asciilifeform: them'd be time-flies shinohai .
mod6: <+asciilifeform> gentlemen, get yer gnats in working order. will need them shortly. << cool!
asciilifeform: in other lulz from ye olde heathendom, https://archive.is/Cvsb7
mircea_popescu: in other news, why the fuck isn't there a rapper named cashew ?
asciilifeform: in other not-quite-noose, apparently it is impossible to a) portably b) open a file for UNMOLESTED (e.g. no 'magic' char interpretation) i/o c) detect EOF.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 00:10 mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
mircea_popescu: the weird shit people will believe.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 23:39 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/XsgTu << in other petruses.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 22:23 ben_vulpes: dang, urbit went straight to the browser
mircea_popescu: well, there's a difference between typical and common. tsetse in fact quite typical.
asciilifeform: not quite typical 'hipster startup'. in the sense that tsetse is not a typical fly.
mircea_popescu: this great dilemma must be integrated, thought the hipster doofus, and so urbit or whatever. start-up culture.
mircea_popescu: or else they gotta go you know, in the raft, like that chinless douche / president of nbc with a crush on elaine. which doesn't supply food.
mircea_popescu: see, because currently the george costanzas of the world are stuck : either they go work for nbc, which does pay ok but makes women in bars laugh in their face shrieking "imagine! he writes sit coms! and he tried to USE IT!11"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:43 ben_vulpes: what are those again? being the wholly-owned sillycon valley bitcoin/namespace table?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653615 << well, first and foremost, being at the same time a food conduit that works in conducting food, AND something cool to tell chicks at obscure http://trilema.com/2017/from-the-bounty-of-the-internets-mp-was-right/ parties.
asciilifeform: ( hey, it's how chinese remainder theorem was, supposedly , invented. commander lined up soldiers in columns of 3, 5, 7... )
mircea_popescu: if what happened in those heads were modular arithmetic, they'd even be useful.
asciilifeform: just happens in what passes for his head. just like modular arithmetic 'happens' in the head of the folx who never learned to count above three.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, i was thinking exactly this, wtf they managed to re-bolt central approach into it.
asciilifeform: hey, beelzebub burned the great-inca-star-topology into his bios in the womb
mircea_popescu: "In future, it would be great if I could just accept any old patch, from any urbit down to the merest comet, as long as it was sealed by ~zod. In general, I would find it comfortable, knowing that everything my urbit was running was a collection of patches, each of which had a signature, or a chain of them, originating in the urbit claiming authorship of that patch." << wtf.
asciilifeform: they, evidently, read the l0gz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol wait wut, urbit bolting v to the side ?
mircea_popescu: "Thank God for those strict gun control laws in Chicago, otherwise the place would look like Texas." << i lelled.
mircea_popescu: ie, the program is probably brand new etc.
mircea_popescu: i'd propose anyoen with a degree from the same place and an ounce of self respect worth would return it, but then again it's transparently a ploy by whatever rando nonuniversity's too-clever-by-half administrator.
mircea_popescu: it's what the spanish'd have done!
mircea_popescu: honestly, i was hoping for something more along the lines of, "trayvon martin, the idle hoodlum who tried to beat up the wrong guy and got it as a result has finally received a less idiotic name. he's going to be exhumed and reburied as travis martin later this week"
a111: Logged on 2014-02-07 18:06 asciilifeform: re: hallucinogen: http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0-quotes-786200.jpeg (translation: most often, the words 'you ought to try everything in life' refer to dope and porn acting, but much more rarely to quantum physics and chemistry'
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:32 asciilifeform: in yet-other, lulzier-yet lulz, https://archive.is/wRzSJ >> 'Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager whose shooting death by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in 2012 prompted a national debate over racial profiling and civil rights, will be awarded a posthumous university degree in aeronautical science that reflects the 17-year-old’s dream of becoming a pilot before he was killed.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, sex means copulation, the usual reproductive behaviour in sexuate species.
mircea_popescu: they gotta hold the she-waterbugs in front of a frog to get them to cooperate, yo.
mircea_popescu: "i have nfi what receptive member of a sexuate species would want to "experience sex" rather than run as fast as legs would carry in opposite direction."
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:25 asciilifeform: i for one have nfi why anybody at this point would want to 'experience american', rather than run as fast as his legs would carry him, in opposite direction.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653603 << you're starting to get in touch with your feminine side! welcome to the ancientest experience of alterity still in common use today! how do you find it ?
mircea_popescu: they're into fat fried pork rinds down here. item is 98% hamburger.
mircea_popescu: and take-out is this very specific thing. subway bears the advertisements thjat tell the story, "rated largest quantity of muza per porcion". muza dude. petrocheese found a new life down there.
mircea_popescu: you should have seen the cheap "pizza" places in buenos aires. ~nobody cooks there because they're idiots, they survive on take-out and barbecue a few times a year.
mircea_popescu: o the "scientific methods". by the cubic mile.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653599 << happened all through south america. it's not "considered food" i nthe sense that "it's expensive", and they have some vague intuition as to the whole "in parismadrid they go to mcdo to experience american -- and SO DO WE111" ; however they are poor and cheap food is cheap food and they have local shitholes that "invented foccacia" sell them "pizza" or whatever, produced according t
mircea_popescu: there's this automatic "judge human mass by the mass" mental process, visible here, visible when new guy was going "oh, capitalism will end because most people are spurious", as fucking if.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653594 << the problem with this theory is that culture is reposited in the elite in all cases. the arab world at the time it was saving the classics from the idiot hordes of europchristians ALSO mostly made of arablite by mass. if i pile up a bunch of coal over your heirloom diamonds can i thereby convince you to throw out "all this pointless carbon" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 21:09 phf`: i think that traditionally would be called pogrom, rather than genocide. problem is that unlike jews, coptics, parsi, etc. american blacks don't have a culture to fallback to, and their persecution narrative is artificially constructed, so they just fall back. there's not going to be a tzadik in projects, unmovable, because torah told him to suffer
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653590 << quite. their situation is complicated by the fact that pre-oral "culture". you don't build much of an identitarian resistance along 12 yo values, a love for colorful skirts and dancing.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, physical extermination is rather likely on the way also, anyway.
mircea_popescu: it is literal genocide, however that may fit or not fit unexamined notions of mass slaughter = genocide. the fact that "african americans" are a sad desert where ella and louis used to walk is good enough.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 20:59 phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653582 "any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group : causing serious mental harm to members ; deliberately influencing the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction ; forcibly transferring children from the group to another group". standard un definition. entirely fits.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/08/the-noob-investors-temptation/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The noob investor’s temptation.
ben_vulpes: dang, urbit went straight to the browser
asciilifeform: massive lulzmine, complete with -- yes,i shit thee not -- 'rust'
asciilifeform: 'If you're a "US person" and win a medal, bear in mind that we have to 1099 you for the assumed value of these goods (at the last crowdsale price, ie, $205 per star).' << ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: 'With the infrastructure converging, we can finally think seriously about the user experience of Urbit. What we're imagining is a small-scale social network and command-line API aggregator. It's just screenshots right now, but we're confident that we can build it and make it work. System software is boring (at least when done right). So let's start with the user experience.'
asciilifeform: ( from the man himself -- https://urbit.org/blog/2017.1-update/ . guess what, actual testable promise... )
asciilifeform: 'And cc-release is our first release really designed so that neither your ship, nor the whole network, can actually sink. The Urbit network had zero unplanned, and one planned, breach (network flag day) in 2H 2016. The last planned breach, the cc-release update, is planned for 1H 2017.'
ben_vulpes: schmaltzman can't even get the name right
asciilifeform: in other lulzies from my www log, http://www.vaikan.com/man-vs-machine << cn fans.
ben_vulpes: what are those again? being the wholly-owned sillycon valley bitcoin/namespace table?
asciilifeform: 'There is a revision system out in the wild called v. It defines source code, or other data under version control, as a function of patches and their authorship, as sealed. Being a product of the Most Serene Republic, it is Spartan, manual, and instructive to Urbit's aspirations.'
phf`: asciilifeform: some people are so far removed from american experience, they will order coca cola with their croissant and feel international for speaking english with you
asciilifeform: in yet-other, lulzier-yet lulz, https://archive.is/wRzSJ >> 'Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager whose shooting death by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in 2012 prompted a national debate over racial profiling and civil rights, will be awarded a posthumous university degree in aeronautical science that reflects the 17-year-old’s dream of becoming a pilot before he was killed.'
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the point is Working White America likes the idea of wall, Black America NEEDS wall
asciilifeform: i for one have nfi why anybody at this point would want to 'experience american', rather than run as fast as his legs would carry him, in opposite direction.
asciilifeform: as for 'experience american', there are all kinds of insane folx, there are even people who go to chernobyl to experience .
asciilifeform: i have nfi presently what their mcdonalds looks like.
phf`: when i was growing up, mcdonalds was a place where you go to get a milkshake before going out. nobody ever thought about it as food, because people cooked at home and still do. i noticed this in paris this time, how similar mcdonalds is, that it's not food and not treated as such. it's a place where you go to experience american. if there was going to be qualitative jump where bulk of population considers mcdonalds primary source of nutrients, i suspe
asciilifeform: if there's a mcshitfood in the place, it extends.
phf`: i dunno, i'm not convinced of that. orlol's target audience are cultural honkies, people who otherwise would be wiggers or otaku or "i'm irish, 5 generations ago". yes, those people don't have any culture, but it's chiefly american problem. i'm not convinced it extends to the rest of the world that well
phf`: i think that traditionally would be called pogrom, rather than genocide. problem is that unlike jews, coptics, parsi, etc. american blacks don't have a culture to fallback to, and their persecution narrative is artificially constructed, so they just fall back. there's not going to be a tzadik in projects, unmovable, because torah told him to suffer
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 20:59 phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots"
asciilifeform: in other noose, latest fg orders shipped.
phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: re: black genocide, Soldiers of Aztlan have captured *COMPTON*, KKKalifornia from the blacks. The same Compton of "Straight out of Compton" fame.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-3-once-outside-the-terminal/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 3 - Once outside the terminal
asciilifeform: and it ain't of the africans.
asciilifeform: there's only 1 genocide going in usa nao.
mircea_popescu: really, black dude's gonna be the carefee highway robber of 2020 ? what next, samoan ballerinas, gypsy wrestlers, what.
mircea_popescu: has a certain kind of ironic sublimicity, the thing.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the black genocide ongoing in the us is so lulzy. here are some ~africans, dedicated fundamentally an' by nature to being lazy, confronted with either become wasps, "tryinna make it in this game" or else indians, part of the bureaucracy. possibly the two LEAST adequate passtimes for black man, ghetto gangsta or university professors, are what they must do!!!
mircea_popescu: teach the uppity poor to read and write as an escape from the hanging, they'll be penning subversive treatises about asking condolezza and her 5000 sister conclave.
asciilifeform: 'buck stops here', in the words of the original usians.
mircea_popescu: as you use it, i gather. as the historical element, not so much.
mircea_popescu: fuhrerprinzip is a lot more in the vein of usian miracle diets.
phf`: *the guide
phf`: re i've had this visceral moment of "cheaper also" when i was standing in the part of topkapi palace where sultan was making decisions, and the guided slowly and patiently explained "no, this is all of the government. sultan here says what needs to be done to this other guy there, and that's that".
mircea_popescu: ah, no, if unknown then valid subject to target practice.
asciilifeform: sort, somehow, the candidates .
asciilifeform: 'by will of lord' is what ? sultan selim using own subjects randomly for target practice from the parapet ?
asciilifeform: you -- them, or they -- you, tertium non datur
asciilifeform: fuck the fuckable poor. etc
asciilifeform: breed the malleable poor.
asciilifeform: they didn't simply 'hang the poor' tho. ~uppity~ poor
mircea_popescu: seems a shoddy way to design. you want to hang the poor, hang the poor.
mircea_popescu: this reduces to "a complicated gui built atop the basic idea of "just hang the poor" except with various fashionable colorings thrown in for marketing".
ben_vulpes: well there's the piece of paper or db record
asciilifeform: title is presumably with the local lord.
asciilifeform: simple, you pick him up before hanged, 'this is my brother'
ben_vulpes: how does this work when i send my brother out in my car to do something?
asciilifeform: the 'trap alive' solution is imho neato tho. car stops, locks. if the d00d inside has title to it -- they let'im go.
asciilifeform: or think of car alarm, most of the time it is what ? wind ? bird shit ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no because the culling of the herd must be "popularity contest" less the thinking monekys desert the empire.
ben_vulpes: make anti theft devices lethal again
asciilifeform: auto vendors profit from theft.
asciilifeform: this is exactly same thread as with the credit cards
mircea_popescu: except ofcourse without the communities.
mircea_popescu: modern cars implemented the equivalent of "wtf is the point of locking door" from back in the day of hillside communities.
asciilifeform: so to steal it, all you need is to artificially help the key box hear the interrogator antenna, and vice-versa.
asciilifeform: where upscale auto now likes to start engine immediately 'as owner walks in', from pure proximity (it is continuously polling 'is the key here??' like idiot)
asciilifeform: turns out, there is a simple electrical hijack that is now used against expensive autos,
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was recently buying faraday ~bags~ to test, after noticing that they have become cheap and ubiquitous, and then went to find WHY
mircea_popescu: the cars are stolen. rich dunenter into it.
mircea_popescu: nah, that's driving at each other.
mircea_popescu: anyway, only true manly race is the item depicted in, iirc, rebel without a cause. a) steal car ; b) meet at precipice ; c) last man to stand on two feet wins.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653398 << best driver i knew was chinese, drove a beat up honda (mazda? acura?) that would cut off the engine at 120 mph, so he would drive it on 119. he'd get into racing fancy cars, and of course they can dust him on acceleration, etc. but he'll always overcome them by being a) habitually good b) calculatedly reckless
asciilifeform: gentlemen, get yer gnats in working order. will need them shortly.
asciilifeform: btw anybody other than phf` and mod6 built the example from earlier ?
asciilifeform: gotta have the constant-time exponentiator .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rsa thing is complete other than the exponentiator -- currently on asciilifeform's desk, on grid paper..
mircea_popescu: it also has the major drawback that it's soaking up time and where's the rsa thing.
asciilifeform: 3 ) trivially boosted to almost any bit rate you might want, by simple expedient of putting 'test capsule' from geiger kit in the box...
asciilifeform: 2 ) trivially verified to work exactly as described, incl. the analogue 'business end'
asciilifeform: 1 ) cannot be influenced from outside, certainly without you knowing about it, not by 'all the king's horses and all the king's men'
asciilifeform: gamma rng has certain advantages which cannot be had any other way
asciilifeform: i dun even care about background gamma, but only the 'own goals' from the Lu's ~3% unstable isotope itself
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that afaik nobody's ever tried THIS application.
asciilifeform: ^ them ^
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Silicon photomultiplier - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_photomultiplier>; An Introduction to the Silicon Photomultiplier - SensL: <http://www.sensl.com/downloads/ds/TN%2520-%2520Intro%2520to%2520SPM%2520Tech.pdf>; Silicon Photomultipliers (SiPM) | Hamamatsu Photonics: <http://www.hamamatsu.com/jp/en/community/silicon_photomultipliers/>
mircea_popescu: well then your problem is insoluble innit ?
asciilifeform: at the amplification needed, ccd is ~100% own noise
mircea_popescu: i don't think there exists more accessible sensitive photodiode.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 14:14 Framedragger: asciilifeform: are you planning on building an entropy source based on them, then? :) need a good uv light reader, or something?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the coins are totally like dubloons, too.
mircea_popescu: i think i've 50lbs on the premises.
asciilifeform: somehow did not think of it. and not of wearing silver dishes on head, either...
asciilifeform: speaking of auto, i recently for the first time in entire life saw a 'bentley'.
asciilifeform: ( and if you see a head-on collision coming, can gun the vertical thruster and try to jump over it... )
ben_vulpes: but also if you're the sort of person who side-loads yr tyres a) you undestand that stick is not purely a function of lateral g's b) you deliberately break traction when you want to anyways
asciilifeform: it seems entirely the thing to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform presuming for unknown reasons acceleration constant, there's a strict relation between it and 0-60 timings.
mircea_popescu: but it's good g's. they're bad when rotating occipitally.
asciilifeform: i knew a d00d who had a g-sensor on the dash of his 500 horse bmw. laughable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform talk to mthreat, he did the "driving for fun" thjing for a while. eventually moved on to buying jets and shit. addictions are addcitive!!!
mircea_popescu: (for some reason this bothers birds. turkeys are very reactive. then again all sorts of things bother birds -- when we checked out the parrots had to have girls take hats off. bothers them sometrhing fierce.)
mircea_popescu: as opposed to turkey, then pinky and thumb touch, other thumb touches nose.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thumbs connected to tempe on either side, rest of fingers apart moving
mircea_popescu: next stop, girl mooses him. but like, in all seriousness, turns around, does it. she's in a cocktail dress, i'm in a suit, they're NOT LOOKING
asciilifeform: i had an old colleague who lived in arizona, in the desert, had sov 'ural' motorbike.
mircea_popescu: both dude and his girl pretend to not notice. they peel off again
mircea_popescu: round and turkey the driver. total idiot look, you know the "drab tshirt, close shaved for beard and hair, stupid glasses" i-m-a-java-engineer look ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta love the folx who buy 12-cyl mazeratis to go REALLYREALLYFAST!!! between same red lights as the toyota goes << oh i had the lulz of all time with this yest. so we were coming back, in cab. on other side, porsche SUV! black! dude just peels off like crazy, in the middle of the night. i go "hey, i think he won" and dun think more of it. till... guess who's lined up at next stop ? oh, us and them. so i turn a
Framedragger: gizmolearner: http://btcbase.org/log ; http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema ; http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today ; pasting anchor hrefs from the first and the last will make bots sitting in channel quote those lines
asciilifeform: i'll repeat my old verdict: the fastest, most luxurious, most cushioned, most speedtrap-proof auto, is ~not having to drive~
ben_vulpes: cops need the freedom to go after the maseratis alone.

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