asciilifeform: costs considerably more, and often hard to get ( the swiss d00dz make'em in batches, i had to wait ~month for mine back when i got it ) than konsoomer crud
mircea_popescu: if the idea is "this stove is not intended to work as a gun" then you can't justify buying lens clearing fluid for the stove's scope.
asciilifeform: the value of apu1, or gizmo, etc is not 'cheap node box'
trinque: it's less a bedroom and more pissing off the balcony
asciilifeform: a certain qty of them -- remains in stock, in various places.
asciilifeform: but separate issue is that amd discontinued the sage-able G-series cpu.
asciilifeform: ( there are 3 known boards with these, at least considering only ones that you can actually BUY : apu1; gizmo1; and gizmo2 . afaik . )
mircea_popescu: so then, main weakness of apu is that it is useless for networking.
asciilifeform: plus the working sage plug.
asciilifeform: and the fact that the mb schematic was actually published ( this is unspeakably untypical )
asciilifeform: the cpu
asciilifeform: they won't even warn up without $mysteryblob.
mircea_popescu: the apu's ?
asciilifeform: asciilifeform will never be able to in good conscience sign off on the extant GB NICs as auditable items.
mircea_popescu: worked ok for those dorks, recall, the guy didn't wanna talk to us ?
asciilifeform: main weakness of apu1 is that it is approx. the pogo
mircea_popescu: maybe we should give trinque shares, box the apu1, sell TMSR router/webserver/mailserver
asciilifeform: and this in a box the size of, approx, vhs tape.
trinque: could build all video related modules, then reboot, modprobe them all, cd /usr/src/linux && make localyesconfig/localmodconfig
asciilifeform: video works either immediately (pre-obummer cards, approximately) or never (i count 'with closed blob driver package' as == 'never')
trinque: same method would apply, but since my own needs begin with headless boxen, started there.
mircea_popescu: trinque> iirc the main challenge with gentoo for folks has been getting to that first boot << nah, getting it to correctly use video without taking more in babysitting timevalue than the box cost in the first place. which means < 1 hr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i see box where i can't ban ip as ~useless << why the heck.
trinque: and not grab from the net
trinque: ^ main point of the thing, script shall shit down distfiles
trinque: worthwhile to at least get folks carting around their own copy of various distfiles eh? get them off the debian apt servers and so on.
trinque: but I don't want to overcomplicate things or this will be another round of "gentoo does not work"
asciilifeform: theoretically if you could source the chipset, you could have an equivalent box made, but with dimm slots
trinque has the gizmo and sage sitting here too
asciilifeform: otherwise identical chipset, and same one as apu1
asciilifeform: apu1 was the imho interesting box -- the first, afaik, and only truly usable workstation x64 with PUBLISHED mobo schematics
trinque: asciilifeform: sure, but you don't get the "this particular gentoo recipe SHALL WORK" without *some* standard box
trinque: apu2 will sit down a node, run their weechat or w/e
trinque: sadly now I find the debugger port I saw on it doesn't do dick.
asciilifeform: ( there isn't, i will add, a 'lowest common denominator' solution for those. )
asciilifeform: trinque: on some boxes, 'first boot' is trivial. on others, not. for instance, my 3ware raid boxen won't load even 1 block after boot loader without the correct mod.
trinque: iirc the main challenge with gentoo for folks has been getting to that first boot
trinque: folks want more modules, kernel source shall be sitting right there after the thing's booted
trinque: only modules I'm even going to have it build in the first place are those involving block devices, network cards (eth), usb controllers
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don't give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not'
asciilifeform: (). In addition to the handling of hotkey/function key strokes, all key-scancode information [2] is written into a logfile in a world-readable path (C:\Users\Public\MicTray.log)...'
asciilifeform: 'Conexant's MicTray64.exe is installed with the Conexant audio driver package and registered as a Microsoft Scheduled Task to run after each user login. The program monitors all keystrokes made by the user to capture and react to functions such as microphone mute/unmute keys/hotkeys. Monitoring of keystrokes is added by implementing a low-level keyboard input hook [1] function that is installed by calling SetwindowsHookEx
trinque: saturday all day's going to be my catch-up day for this and other things
asciilifeform: you end up with either massive hog kernel 'with everything', or with a thing married to particular iron
trinque: I boot with modules, do localyesconfig, then reboot with that product
asciilifeform: this was the principal obstacle when i tried 'infectious gentoo' concept
trinque a little sad to find the thing's neutered, but the updated infectious genbootstrap will work as well on the other, or any other device with kernel module tweaking
asciilifeform: also ftr imho 'sync in the wild' is a waste of time, it simply doesn't work, 'wild' contains ~no nodes that actually serve old blox on request.
asciilifeform: wtf is the point, thing will never keep up with blox in real time
BingoBoingo: In other things, sync test is now within 1500 blox
asciilifeform: if you believe the heathen chart ('bitnodes'), 'falcon' mega-relay-network etc has ~same number of nodes as... their count of trb.
shinohai: (supposedly deters BTC theft)
asciilifeform: 'FEATURES ... Reduced orphan rate ... Less wasted miner effort' << naturally they pitch it to miners
shinohai: ^ Falcon is one of The Siren's pet projects iirc
asciilifeform: 'we lost on mining, let's leverage control of the telecoms, TeroristBlox will go as slow as we want, CornellBlox will go at the expected speed on the wire'
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 18:50 mircea_popescu: the last time us citizen actually said something in public that wasn't marketing-derivative might have been before mark twain was born.
asciilifeform: '...application-level cut-through routing. This technique effectively decouples the speed of disseminating blocks from the size of the network...' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: in other not-quite-noose, http://www.falcon-net.org << usg '1000X faster! bitcoin backbone!' chumpnet
mircea_popescu: seems to me he's ~ a modernist reflection of the pre ww2 court system. blaming him for having a postwar reinterpretation of a rabbiniucal court seems rather strange.
mircea_popescu: i mean, consider -- the nazis did not think so much of the various romanian/ukrainian/polish courts. and their agitprop did say they you know, lure german girls there to fuck!!11
asciilifeform: and to be fair i have nothing with which to counter mircea_popescu's 'he's the real deal, but they built an immunological cocoon around'im' hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: well, what's the alternative, "of a good man - i am fond twice, of a bad man - not even once" ?
mircea_popescu: (the two aren't even distinct. to belong to the lower classes aesthetically or intellectually, what the fuck's the difference.)
mircea_popescu: the equivalent'd be to propose i'm vulgar because hey, i do the whole "damn... well, basically they fuck, but it was absolutely splendid in verse" schtick so therefore. except the intelligent can't actually be vulgar ; or for that matter socialist.
phf`: with "manufacturing consent" being one of the implications
phf`: i appreciate chomsky, he gave me a useful analytical tool of considering social and economic dynamic systems in terms of dependency graphs (which doesn't necessarily preclude lizard hitler, but allows for wider range of topologies that includes lizard hitler along all others)
mircea_popescu: now, to sum this up -- it's not that i'm a huge chomski fan or anything ; but it is that if the scaffolding were build up in stanford square and the guillotine ready, i'd have serious problem signing off on chomski ; and some obscure dudes in the sciences depts.
mircea_popescu: to the outrage of the old bitties. "oh noe, susanna! he beat her! but she's so smart and cultivated and independent and o noes"
mircea_popescu: any "good family" girl in her 20s knows so much, to preciously pretend like "oh, uncle joe, he's always ~so~ controversial". which makes me take the cane in hand and leave her some memories.
mircea_popescu: now, obviously any bureaucracy aka club of the intellectually lazy will secrete insulating cocoon around such a fellow, in the shape of "oh, he's the delegated weirdsayer".
mircea_popescu: phf` this is true ; but the way he got there was through saying all sorts of weird/taboo things over 30 or so years.
mircea_popescu: well apparently by your theory not anyone with half a mil.
asciilifeform: except for mircea_popescu -- him, they would invite in for free! for life-long residence, lol
asciilifeform: other thing - going to usa isn't hard; even visa isn't hard ; ~anyone can buy 'green card' for half a mil $ or what was it.
mircea_popescu: in fact, my interest in computers at the time was comparable with your interest in machine guns today. a little bit of history and occasionally maybe have one in the house.
asciilifeform: incidentally plenty of ro folx in usa. asciilifeform met them for first time, there !
mircea_popescu: i was still mp before bitcoin, just a) you had no way to summon the interest and b) i had no interest to you know, maintain an irc connection like the link with the chest of the covenant.
mircea_popescu: salvage some statal dignity for the state.
mircea_popescu: let me point out that a) i visited, when i felt like ; b) they gave me a 10 year visa back in 2000. i was one of the i dunno, maybe dozen romanians with one, at the time ? c) they fucking held the embassy open while my driver was going 100 on the wrong way in bucharest because i met some friends and got to drinking and we lost track of time and we were late. eventually got a police escort to do it under color of law at least,
mircea_popescu: and if i felt like doing a phd with whoevere the fuck, i'd have that, also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got mansions and whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: this matter may be examined, like any matter, but the examination is neither substantiated nor concluded by the one sentence "coach sandusky had nothing on him". where are the fucking examples, notes, etcetera ?
asciilifeform: but simple observation that ~actual~ oppositioner will not be permitted mansions and titles inside the reich he is nominally opposing.
mircea_popescu: yes, maybe he speaks half truths because reasons. maybe he's just not bright enough to go further ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 16:34 asciilifeform: right. i dun mean the physical box, mircea_popescu . i meant 'in my head, i dun have a trilema' to say.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you're now stuck reconciling this item where this lefty darling sees the right perspective.
mircea_popescu: chomsky is, also, for opening bids, the only guy who pointed out what mp pointed out re joe stack. yes his version of "sops, you're cutting the branch you're sitting on" is neither as cogent, articulated, useful or descriptive as mine. but this is because he is old, comparatively stupid and comparatively uncultured.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. the basis of the comment is me reading the whole "Shaft in plato cave" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: wtf. and what the fuck is a "child prodigy" even!
mircea_popescu: ause it's online and we gotta compete on wordage''' items about current event which i'ma misrepresent as somewhow related to me really really hating the chomsky guy i really look up to for the reasons i actually look up to him, notwithstanding the whole pile exists only in my too-lazy-to-actually-read and too-eager-to-imagine-i-got-it-at-first-sentence''' dumber-than-rocks '''child prodigy''' head"
mircea_popescu: "i think chomsky is really cool because i imagine chomsky to be this guy who is read worldwide and got really rich out of feeding people ''''alt-blue pills in a red coating''' (yes i'm aware this is nonsense, but it is also easy reference to a by now readily understood brand of nonsense this particular idiot club deals in) and i wanna be just like him!!1" becomes "here's some random '''nobody said them so they'll get said bec
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja even read the linked item ?
mircea_popescu: why's them ghetto folk need to feel & be this contorted, really ? he's going to write a piece to confess imaginary crimes he summoned up for the circumstance which do not exist for any other reason than to try and misrepresent into their opposite his actual feelings about his misconstrued notions of a third party ?
mircea_popescu: with the mention that i absolutely don't see his point re chomsky ; but i do see his point re... himself.
mircea_popescu: but in further wtf of today : http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/01/noam-chomsky-killed-aaron-swartz.html
trinque: what the hell was all that
mircea_popescu: ^ http://twitter.com/akekmememorph for the curious. clever see, cuz kek and meme and stuff. and ironic. and everything. you should prolly date him.
BingoBoingo: It's what one does when they are a JWZ, It's a natural milestone on the walk of "just wanting to"
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: To be fair click the link on "FBI Director and a JWZ" and read the Trilema that appears in your browser
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 07:19 jpt4: What actions beneficial to Trilema et al, and visible enough to cross the ocean, are there to be performed?
shinohai: !~later tell jpt4 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654386 <<< I personally keep losing boats with shipments full of tits. Find the individuals responsible, return my tits, and surely you shall be rewarded.
shinohai: Holy shit the logs this morning.
diana_coman: you might want to check out #eulora too and the game itself anyway
BingoBoingo: Well, then you aren't webbed in trust you. You are simply a point that can be webbed.
jpt4: We are swiftly rectifying fbar's unauthenticated anonymity.
BingoBoingo: The park rangers, like those patriots in Oregon did last year
BingoBoingo: jpt4: That's a question for the lord alf of Beedog
BingoBoingo: Well, design a coat of arms, make some flags and play capture the park against some rangers?
jpt4: Assist us to peer into the shadows.
BingoBoingo: Well, horse manure delivered to tax offices, delivery of microchip fab to Jamaica, etc. The gamut of useful things is wide and long, but also dark
jpt4: What actions beneficial to Trilema et al, and visible enough to cross the ocean, are there to be performed?
mircea_popescu: i'm going to bed. will read the proceeds of the #trilema invasion in the morning, keep it sprightly.
BingoBoingo: Surely there's a courthouse or college campus that needs 3+ cubic yards of fresh uncomposted horse manure for the lulz. I'd rate such a delivery a +2 *if only there were a key to attribute it to*
jpt4: Mr. Popescu has not shied from testing potential allies in the past.
jpt4: La Serenissima is one of the few institutions capable of accepting, and worthy of demanding, a sincere oath of loyalty.
Avarice_: after then right?
asciilifeform: the typical process is, at megacorp there in some dark closet labours a d00d with long beard who writes, e.g., a log daemon, in erlang. then it gets out and some crackpot www gets 'industry use!' logo.
Framedragger: but the bootstrap website says that it's industry proven, has FB logo. MIXED SIGNALS
asciilifeform: is in fact the biggest afaik reason it never caught on
Framedragger: i never got to really explore D, but vaguely recall the compiler not being / not relying on llvm some years ago
asciilifeform: ( was the original never openly published ? or simply dun work on anything today ? or wat. )
asciilifeform: speaking of 'c but with safety, really, believe!11' the original, 'd', apparently is in some sense alive! today : https://dlang.org
ben_vulpes: you may now proceed to quest 3 in the Infiltrate TMSR~ saga: write a patch demonstrating rust interop with TRB
ben_vulpes: the rust evangelism chatbot thanks you for your contribution, and awards you eleventy whuffie
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 19:15 asciilifeform: why not simply eat the rifle.
asciilifeform: which is quite easy to do, 'six words of the honest man', etc.
asciilifeform: then, was extended, in the classic american pattern, to 'he owned an X? he owned a Y ? where X+Y is $contraband ? now we only gotta prove 'intent to add X+Y''
asciilifeform: ianal but iirc the doctrine is called 'constructive possession'
asciilifeform: remember, this was the country where a man got 20 yrs for being found with a shoelace and a semiauto
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i oughta explain -- the astonishing thing wasn't that ammonal exists ; or that the 2 basic ingredients are sold in shops ( they indeed are , worldwide ) but that the 'mix it yourself' juridicial loophole still holds anywhere in usa ( it appears to, in a few states, for the time being . )
asciilifeform: 'Since 2014, 34 Dutch investigations, including those involving attempted assassinations and international drug trafficking, have involved PGP phones, according to Politie. "Police and prosecutors have evidence that the main suspects knew their products and services primarily used by criminals for such offenses," the Politie announcement reads.'
asciilifeform: but meanwhile, in the world of tardanology : https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/dutch-cops-bust-another-pgp-blackberry-company-for-alleged-money-laundering ( archive.is fails ! srsly the load-from-single-ip thing is monumentally retarded )
BingoBoingo: Perhaps he held a deep resentment against the trees?
asciilifeform: why not simply eat the rifle.
asciilifeform: 'A 24-year-old man from Portland, Oregon, used a Tannerite explosion as a means of suicide. Officials indicated that on March 19, 2015, the man parked his car along US Route 26 in a rural area near Mt. Hood and walked into nearby woods, where he detonated a "large quantity" of Tannerite with a .223 caliber rifle. The blast shattered trees and resulted in a crater two feet deep and ten feet wide.' << lol, the sheer wtf
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so no tractor << Amazingly "tractor supply" sells pretty much everything rural but the tractors.
asciilifeform: it's what you blow the permafrost with, to dig grave.
BingoBoingo: Yes, much of the cool shit you thing simply doesn't exist is actually sitting on store shelves 2 hours away
BingoBoingo: Or the wonderlands where tractor dealerships co-exist with car dealerships in a ratio that sometimes drops as low as 4/5
BingoBoingo wonders how asciilifeform would handle the wonders of "Tractor Supply" or Bucheit
a111: Logged on 2014-05-30 18:54 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Around here there is a big box type store called "Rural King" has more useful materials for electronics security than Best Buy
BingoBoingo: Per the courts: FBI gets to kill Lavoy Finicum, Big Urban PD gets to sometimes kill people, Small town PD gets to write traffic tickers and bother drunks
asciilifeform: they routinely fire into crowds and nail folx even mile away, and 0 ruin.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'frangible' thing is crackpottery tho. << It's lawyerasty. Shooting through next apartment and killing cat would ruin a small podunk PD.
mircea_popescu: the human/whatever body is made to resist certain stresses. you gotta be that tall to ride sort of situation.
asciilifeform: sounds like an attempt to make 'dumdum' without the bad pr ( but why?? )
asciilifeform: the 'frangible' thing is crackpottery tho.
mircea_popescu: this sounds a lot like a salt charge someone took the salt out of.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: then they run into actually trained actual men, and "o noes, snipers!!!" => collapsing tikrit "offensive" and "we're still two weeking mosul year and a half later" because three dudes didn't feel like speaking english that time.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the idea was, rather than actually drill the idiots we recruit into soldiers, cheaper easier and lazier to just give them a gun. and since they're idiots anyway, we "optimize" gun into peashooter. our democracy progressing continously towards further heights of socialism.
mircea_popescu: dun work worth a shit for the police.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc there was also a 'wounded man ties up 3, dead man 1' thing
mod6: np. sorry about the delay.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: also plox do me a favour and post the comment yourself again, i'll remove the old one << sure, can/will do this a bit later for sure.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok, so my comment that ~you~ reposted indeed verified after I copied it off the page.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is .223 non penetrating supposed to do. get the police robbed by hoodlums in vinyl suits ?
asciilifeform: all that's missing is a new orwell to write 'shooting the bullephant' essay.
asciilifeform: and ty mircea_popescu for the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654015 which worxxx great.
BingoBoingo: mits." << This a a serious failure of community policing. Why were better equipped citizens not deputized to combat the brown menace?
BingoBoingo: "But the bullet was not able to pierce the buffalos thick skull, which they use in nature like battering rams when they fight each other. However, the shot did knock the bull down to where Athmer could reposition again to gain a better angle and deliver more rounds. It took about a dozen shots total before the bull finally succumbed to its wounds in a brushy area about 100 yards off Tyson Road, about a quarter-mile outside the city li
BingoBoingo: "He put three rounds into the bull, behind its shoulder, a traditional target spot to bring down big game, but the bull did not fall. The rifle carried by Highland police is an AR-15 that shoots .223-caliber, non-penetrating rounds." << Not a enough bullet for Buffalo Lives Matter
BingoBoingo: In other local news I somehow slept through http://www.bnd.com/news/local/community/highland-news-leader/article149709494.html#navlink=Lead
asciilifeform: mod6: also plox do me a favour and post the comment yourself again, i'll remove the old one
asciilifeform: mod6: try verifying the pgpblock
asciilifeform: right. i dun mean the physical box, mircea_popescu . i meant 'in my head, i dun have a trilema' to say.
mircea_popescu: not for years. about as relevant as being mentioned in the subway.
asciilifeform: and i don't have the budget to put it on own t3 like trilema was put.
Framedragger: i mean, one can have a local entry in hosts file, even with old ip it seems, the client just needs to supply a correct 'Host' header field
mircea_popescu: heh. ok then.
asciilifeform: which twiddles the dns, silently, and serves up the correct d00d's site based on url requested.
asciilifeform: i'll repeat, there is no possible way you can get to my www via http://ip . for any value of ip.
mod6: hi, sorry got pulled away for a few there.
asciilifeform: curl http://208.94.116.204 >>> '.... <p>The document has moved <a href="http://www.208.94.116.204/">here</a>.</p> ... ' << and mega-unsurprise!!!!
asciilifeform: Framedragger: then i have even deeper nfi
mircea_popescu: no, the box has a whole c block
mircea_popescu: i can load it on other machines!
mircea_popescu: unless someone put a shitperl in there and forgot all about it.
asciilifeform: the attempt to load random crapolade, somehow triggers this.
mircea_popescu: why, this is the expected behaviour ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox post output of my exact curl ( with the &> stderr redirect into txt file )
mircea_popescu: but it's still there. you got... >2 bugs.
mircea_popescu: for some reason (ie, abug) it doesn't get applied to you/most others
Framedragger: i wonder if mircea_popescu'd get the same if he ran a manual GET under `nc loper-os.org 80` hah
mircea_popescu: the problem is that mine dun work, not that yours does.
Framedragger: seems that www.www is the 301 *target* returned to his client, hah
asciilifeform: you gotta put quotes around the url y'know, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: which to me was the mega-feature
asciilifeform: the spam filter
mircea_popescu: ah wait, yeah, i recall you trying and couldn't get some corner in the door, what was it, do yo urecall ?
mircea_popescu: and you know, not putting it in wholesale LAST time you ran into this problem with i dun recall what, it's how you woke up screaming in the middle of the night a half year later because OMFG WUT
mircea_popescu: should be in wp-comments.php or w/e it's called i think. that'd be the displayer of comments section.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654011 << because ben_vulpes went through a day or two of screaming and drilling with me on the topic many many years ago and we fixed the process.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 13:24 asciilifeform: mod6: it gotta be in the display end. when i paste from the 'edit comment' box, it verifies
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654007 << this only means it saved it correctly in the db. wp does another filtering pass when displaying, which does munge.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 05:15 mod6: after curl'ing down the page itself, this is what it looks like in HTML: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tTbXV/?raw=true
phf`: otherwise a POST from a curl/programmatically is the safest way to upload. that's what browsers also supposed to do, but some of them will corrupt your CR/CRLF/LF combinations, which is not anything that you can defend from on the server side
mod6: I think independant replication is in order myself; i.e. someone create a clearsigned message with multiple line feeds in there (\n), and see if the result is the same.
mod6: I remember these to be exceptionally painful.
mod6: ben_vulpes: do you care to remind the readers of the adventure you had to take to handle this with your wotpaste tool?
mod6: thanks asciilifeform for taking down the comment.
phf`: welcome back to another round of "we trying to put TEXT into a TEXTBOX" with your host phf
asciilifeform: mod6: it gotta be in the display end. when i paste from the 'edit comment' box, it verifies
mod6: ill leave off with this, here is the un-buffer-copied, original before pasting into ben's wotpaste and loper
mod6: do you have all of the stuff between the '-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----' and '-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----', including those lines?
shinohai: mod6: The paste verifies fine, the loperos one gives me: gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545&cpage=1#comment-18076 << << then go here, all PGP text and see if it verifies for ya.
mod6: <+mod6> <+mod6> This is the actual pgp clearsigned data: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9AAL7/?raw=true << this is what gets pasted into the comments section. 7bit ascii. << go to this link, copy the text, save locally, or however you want to do it, and see if it verifies.
mod6: <+mod6> This is the actual pgp clearsigned data: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9AAL7/?raw=true << this is what gets pasted into the comments section. 7bit ascii.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ah but mod6 baby, you can't sign html and expect to verify the text a browser outputs cmon. << :] i didn't sign html.
phf`: for people who are into that kind of shit, Ruckert republished his "Understanding MP3", which is notable for being a literate program write up of an mp3 decoder (plus all the necessary context to understand how it works) https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-MP3-Semantics-Mathematics-Algorithms/dp/1541259335
mircea_popescu: ah but mod6 baby, you can't sign html and expect to verify the text a browser outputs cmon. whole fucking thing is a substitution engine for strings, how's the clearsign gonna be preserved.
mod6: so it's not much of a suprise i guess that a copy of the text, rendered, doesn't work.
mod6: after curl'ing down the page itself, this is what it looks like in HTML: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tTbXV/?raw=true
mod6: anyway, don't worry about it. just nuke the post I made, and I'll dump the unsigned text inthere.
asciilifeform: that diff is useless, the tops ain't aligned
asciilifeform: mod6: diff the hexdump -C outputs
mod6: seems to be the same for me?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> NULL, motherfucker, diff. << does vdiff give different output hashes?
mod6: it's gotta be browser related. if you copied the PGP signed data out of the database comments field or what not, and it was ok, then ok. may not mangled. but perhaps the browser does some weird formatting hijinx and that's fuckin us up.
asciilifeform: NULL, motherfucker, diff.
asciilifeform: 3) NULL DIFF b/w the two pastes if pasted into emacs each !!!
mod6: I was going to finish all the tests, compile some info, then if he still hadn't written to us or shown up here, I'd write him.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, mircea_popescu : no word from the dh d00d, eh << tbh, I haven't even reached out myself yet.
asciilifeform: from same rag, 'President Trump’s sudden removal of James B. Comey as director of the FBI sparked immediate fears among legislators and others that the bureau’s probe into possible collusion between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign might be upended now that Trump himself can handpick its new supervisor.'
asciilifeform: 'President Trump fired FBI Director James B. Comey on Tuesday, at the recommendation of senior Justice Department officials who said he had treated Hillary Clinton unfairly and in doing so damaged the credibility of the FBI and the Justice Department.' << lol!