Framedragger: (i assume web caches older version for now, but web is only preview-mode of the actual thing anyway)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey , these are the folx hell-bent on retrofitting inflation into bitcoin somehow. are firmly convinced that they will eventually do it ( alternative is to 'lie down and rot' , from their pov , world with perma-working bitcoin in it is not one they wish to even conceive of living in )
mircea_popescu: fucking jobsworths and their demented perspective.
Framedragger: no bother
Framedragger: trinque: while at it i'll just mention that mine still doesn't have teh old ratings, not that i need them any time soon, just adding to the list. god knows my own list is long :(
trinque: 1900 is the real 1970, way lispier
mircea_popescu: fine, but i find it rather lulzy that apparently i have to worry about "Bitcoin revenue", as if i can't trade fiatola for bitcoin like anyone else ; and that somehow i should be worried while sitting on technology the usg couldn't replicate in spite of trying for a coupla years.
asciilifeform: or the slightly more advanced kakobreklan version, 'oh that wasn't mircea_popescu's thing, it was asciilifeform , mircea_popescu only drinks his blood'
trinque: !!ratings thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: by now it's ~bitbet sized, in terms of "bitcoin mp holds for other people".
asciilifeform: apparently rats in the sewer have conversations and things
mircea_popescu: i can't talk about being a pimp on the clear net ? holy shit i wrote the fucking textbook on it ?
asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:27 basically from a purely logical standpoint MP’s last bastion in generating bitcoin revenue is 1) through activities he can’t talk about on the clear net (he used to be a pimp and made money that way in the RO days), 2) through Eulora which is basically just A Tale in the Desert with Bitcoin' << didjaknow
asciilifeform: 'not ivan, but pyotr, and not won, but lost, and not the lottery, but at cards'
trinque: !!reputation thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 've not been following, but anyway. i can't recall him doing something over the years.
asciilifeform: then no??
asciilifeform: !!gettrust thestringpuller
asciilifeform: by the latrine.
mircea_popescu: can the useless twerp even voice himself here ?
asciilifeform: ^ specially designated prb heathen pit, apparently.
mircea_popescu: and where the fuck were they with the "speculating" back when buffett had no option but to pretend like i dun exist.
mircea_popescu: such a best korea you folks got going there.
asciilifeform: 'Klein faces five years in federal prison for operating an illegal money exchange—a money exchange that traded USD for property, according to the IRS’s BTC tax document.'
asciilifeform: s at such a commission, IRS agents arrested him without mention of the money.'
asciilifeform: from earlier, 'They reached out to “jrklein,” out of thousands of LBC users, and arranged a meet. All said and done, the IRS agents met with Klein five times. The IRS agents clarified—with or to Klein—that they wanted to exchange their cash for his Bitcoin. Although other possible transactions existed on LBC, cash for Bitcoin was not uncommon. He made charged a 10 percent commission rate, and although the internet often scoff
phf: but if you're actually trying to render tits with full knowledge of medium, you have to layout your pixels manually, with the full "what is dpi, what is point, etc." awareness
trinque: whole countries of them actually.
asciilifeform: apparently there are junkyards for people.
asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:32 @davef Dunno. Some speculated MP was broke and couldn’t warrant the losses to keep BitBet going' << didjaknow !!
phf: there are hacks in postscript that let you dump a raw pixel buffer (as is the case in most graphics libraries, there's "graphics language" and "dump these special bits in internal format")
asciilifeform: briefly upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658014 << i tracked down the heathen pit in question, for entomological purposes. the only possibly lulzy bit is that it turns out to be thestringpuller 's new home.
mircea_popescu: now, in fairness, knuth had nfi of this, was deeply displeased by the poor quality of the image generated at the edge of this design graph, mostly due to cost saving and poor machinery, not substantially due to the item itself.
mircea_popescu: the 2-3 transition may be argued as "oh, like i wouldn't have figured that twirl on my own anyway". nevertheless, the 2-5 continuity doth revolve around warnock fellow.
asciilifeform: the tech was ~obvious.
asciilifeform: as was the work henderson's paper stood on. imho this is a case of 'bell's telephone'
mircea_popescu: and yes, it can be said it all stands in the same relation to henderson & functional geometry as all the "gurus" and "experts" of the us school of management stand with skinner.
phf: i think that might be a haskelism. a functional formalism 20 years after the original concept
phf: oh the functional geometry henderson
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: 6. the item at 5 is what most people deem ps, but this is somewhat like thinking facebook invented php because it stole the sources and renamed them.
mircea_popescu: 5. the selfsame fellow named warnock, with some others, started out in early 80s, made a company named "adobe", wrote the third copy of the ~same ps item.
mircea_popescu: 4. the fellow named warnock was hired by xerox parc, which was also trying to get a publishing software package. he used HIS ps, to rewrite theirs.
mircea_popescu: 3. a fellow by the name warnock, while working on a forgotten company cca 1975, came up with ps, in the sense a fellow called nakamoto came up with bitcoin. he was at the time working on the problem of drawing maps.
mircea_popescu: 2. the alternative was run on digital machines, which ran software.
mircea_popescu: phf let me formalize the statement here.
asciilifeform: phf: henderson's method, was, ultimately, 'the maxwell's equations of graphics'
phf: se in a physical printing world. i don't know any prior art to postscript, but i don't think publishing is it. most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make sense in a physical publishing
phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen
asciilifeform has tried, on and off over the years, to generalize it to something more interesting, but so far not succeeded
asciilifeform: possibly the only example of something that comes close, that i know of , is bernstein's gcd
asciilifeform: makes the difference b/w, e.g., sieve of eratosthenes factoring, and modern factoring algos, look small.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: aha, one of the most jaw-dropping optimizations in history of the field, afaik.
asciilifeform: ( and fwiw, iirc the wavelet patents expired long ago )
asciilifeform: sane folx piss kerosene on patents and then light it
phf: oddly enough djvu is hated in angloworld (something something patents), but most of the archives of soviet written material is in djvu
asciilifeform: Framedragger: 'hashlife' was interesting because there are not so many 'martian' breakthroughs -- multiple-orders-of-magnitude speedups -- in algo world.
Framedragger: yeah djvu is great for what it does. never bothered to check how it actually worx, wavelet compressor, cool.
asciilifeform: djvu has some annoying quirks ( lossy compressor, so sometimes, e.g., И turns into Н on entire page ) but otherwise mindblowingly great tech, a scan that'd be 400M in pdf, can be 4 , and actually uses the res of whatever display you have, incl. printer, to display ~= original
asciilifeform: and extensions thereof
asciilifeform: funnily enough the problem of 'how to store scans without losing ANYTHING' was long ago solved : 'djvu' (ancient bell labs thing, i use it every day)
asciilifeform: this a) sucks for text, can no longer search, cut/paste but b) for most of my pdf this is ALREADY so, because they were ancient scans
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, there was a sort-of working js to txt item alf was demonstrating at some point. i dun recall where it ended up.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658022 << iirc it was just a sh script to rasterize the pages to jpegs ! a la http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html .
mircea_popescu: the adobe ps is the warnock wtf he called it, system something or the other. xerox parc also had something, of course, but it died out.
asciilifeform: very much a synthesis-invention
mircea_popescu: but, postscript is NOT the invention of some adobe dorks. postscript was a thing cca 1976, and stolen, ~wholly, from already existing print process, by eg warnock.
mircea_popescu: point being, there was some software running the crap knuth didn't like, wrote replacement.
asciilifeform: ditto postscript (dealt with other end of the funnel -- the low-level pixel-pushing, rather than 'what to do with equations')
asciilifeform: tex was concerned with the ~logical~ end.
asciilifeform: (today it is approx. same as then)
mircea_popescu: (including the only items with pit style monitors, other than in alfs home, that i ever knew of.)
mircea_popescu: and they had you know, linotypes and stuff. dedicated computrons.
asciilifeform: but 'not direct loop from mathematician to photosetter'
mircea_popescu: ftr knuth liked the first edition (metal), hated 2nd.
mircea_popescu: there WAS the molten metal tech, same as what they printed the 1929 nyt on. but cca 1970s it was replaced by photo
mircea_popescu: anyway ; afaik the whole reason tex exists is because sometime in early 80s/ late 70s knuth got some galley proofs from the new photo process and hated them
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's theory -- we got pdf (postscript on comp display, really) because of the barfalicious failures of the www folx ( html etc )
mircea_popescu: as usage i mean, not as the item.
mircea_popescu: while i think it's broadly true that ps yielded tex and pdf in world and gutter respectively, it's not clear the ps folk understood reflow, or generally speaking the problem they were trying to approach.
asciilifeform: because printer ( of the print house variety, not asciilifeform's old rattler ) takes pages, not scroll
mircea_popescu: but this wasn't a core item in the original was it ?
mircea_popescu: oh, because everyone watches the internet on standard issue tvs ?
asciilifeform: but the PROBLEM was an intrinsically WRONG problem to have to begin with
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658008 << idea was, you ~are~ 'moving' objects by asking them to be laid out on a display of unknown (to author) resolution. this began as a ~sane 'postscript' and bloviated into a usgologic monstrosity, pdf
mircea_popescu: the reason our brains work and computers don't is, to a significant portion, that our brains actually define what PASSES FOR sense.
mircea_popescu: suddenly puts the ai as digital-machine-intelligence problem in its proper perspective, and also supplies a very good explanation for the genysym issue. people going think() are ACTUALLY approaching the river at the other end.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that's prolly the only acceptable definition of intelligence.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Stanisław Lem - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%25C5%2582aw_Lem>; List of works by Stanisław Lem and their adaptations - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Stanis%25C5%2582aw_Lem_and_their_adaptations>; Stanislaw Lem : the official site: <https://lem.pl/>
mircea_popescu: and theo rem was german!
mircea_popescu: and for the record, soap operas, action movies, talk shows etc haven't replaced literature strictly because there's no way to say "we're in the business of emission, make your own fucking receiver sets" when it comes to television. that and no more.
mircea_popescu: girls going "i don't know how to tell you this" are in for a beating on the strength of that alone, meanwhile whole generation of dorks having not much to say at all fretting ineptly about ~the way~ they're saying it / "presenting themselves" expect this to somehow work.
mircea_popescu: all of it is the same thing, a deeply misguided attempt to control the reception of the message. focus on the fucking message.
mircea_popescu: the content is never the problem. it always and universally goes to shit when they attempt to control ~the consumption~ of content. hence drm and css, hence return mid paragraph "because i don't want YOU to scroll horizontally" etc.
mircea_popescu: depict in as what, adding some screenshots in the text ?
Framedragger: of course, usually the medium is misused - sure.
Framedragger: i disagree that visuals cannot add more than text all of the time. best way to depict broken css rendering is to depict it.
mircea_popescu: really. i don't want to watch some dork on video. i don't want to watch his stupid slides. i don't want to watch his facebook. really all this "rich content", diagrams-hyelogryphs-bs is only there because illiterate monkey has nothing to say.
Framedragger: for one, there are some lulzy screenshots showing the insanity of JS event loop, and exceptions, and css rendering, etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes, to text yes, hence why i said plaintext is the easy part ^. but you're right, maybe text is the way to go in these shitcases...
mircea_popescu: anyway, there was a sort-of working js to txt item alf was demonstrating at some point. i dun recall where it ended up.
mircea_popescu: moli_ i think the media's just as petrified of saying my name today as years ago.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you are aware that item does nothing whatsoever, you could have published screenshots for the same effect.
moli_: nothing, how you doing, mircea_popescu ? you've been quiet on the media
mircea_popescu: of course the cunts in question wouldn't actually be fonts, but anyway. wtf-8.
mircea_popescu: similarily to how the millionth fraction of a pt is meaningful if you print a km sq picture of all the cunts of all the women currently alive and then intend to go check out the indvidual ingrown hairs with a magnifying glass.
phf: i'm not sure why jump through these hoops for static content though. position:absolute; left: top: still work
phf: that transform:matrix is the "standard" way of doing object positioning and movement (they displacement is optimized in gpu, so if you're actually moving objects around it's faster then css x,y positioning)
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
mircea_popescu: next time just load the fucking images, as images, like trilema does it.
mircea_popescu: tell you what, if i wanted to put uncacheable pngs somewhere on the web, i'd have NOT needed 1k lines of six decimal place pt specifications nor inept matrices and their useless transforms.
mircea_popescu: and THEN the WHOLE thing is five lines of div id="pf1" class="pf w0 h0" data-page-no="1"><div class="pc pc1 w0 h0"><img class="bi x0 y0 w1 h1" alt="" src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAABC4AAAWfCAIAAADrrCCVAAAACXBIWXMAABYlAAAWJQFJUiTwAAAgAElEQVR42uzdW5Mjx5n/9zzVAUCju+dAUlpqJfmvXa/DYb8IvwiH354vfOkX5QuHI/6SOJzpA1BVmfk8vsBwOBoOyUaiqlDo/n5idyNE7Qy7C4XM/OXhSauq5pKlrhs+3J3yN/i2bW6uDQDgku3++9+P/SOrt2+s9zw6ADgXxyMAAFw6
mircea_popescu: there's also one thousand lines of spurious nonsense in the vein of .x3e{left:412.722800pt;}
mircea_popescu: Framedragger a cursory look at the pile (complete, btw) makes it obvious matrices were not the correct approach for this problem, whatever it might have been.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:44 mircea_popescu: holy shit "Quaternion.Euler" is a full blown core function. and wait, there's more : http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/765683/when-to-use-quaternion-vs-euler-angles.html
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657897 << "due to heroic actions of Praporshchik Sidorenko, the aggressor has been neutralized, but unfortunately resulted in death of selfsame praporshchik, who will be awarded a medal posthumously, and his vdova will receive 500 rubbles in recognition of his heroism"
mircea_popescu: why THE FUCK does this exist ?
Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that i have 0 problem reading actual pdf, even have dedicated hardware for it
Framedragger: pdf almost saner in this instance. fwiw i did try with lynx, it showed the text. but yeah.
asciilifeform: almost as if they have a if (xres < yres) barf()
mircea_popescu used to have a very poor reaction / low tolerance to ineptitude in that vein "oh i shouldnt end up naked on the first date" from chicks who saw stupid americana on tv and imagined it's an example to follow back when he was 16. it deteriorated over time.
mircea_popescu: it absolutely is that, just like the unthinking http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657708 bullshit.
Framedragger: that i don't understand, either. all them web designers, too, gotta protect those PNGs in transit
Framedragger: i wonder if it's due to the cert. probably yes. yeah, sad!
mircea_popescu: nevermind the 2015. gimme a 2017 version.
Framedragger: you have some CA roots, therefore you (implicitly or explicitly) prefer some, neh?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why the specifics need even be discussed. who cares WHAT was in the dumpster girly put on her head ? point remains, FREE!!11 is a garbage heuristic.
Framedragger: there is that
Framedragger: i don't recall but i believe you can define ~all the params for DH key exchange in ssl, i think
mircea_popescu: there's layers to this ec story.
Framedragger: yesyes, the whole format is broken, yes EC, so basically almost as bad as bitcoin :)
mircea_popescu: apparently, for same reason they buy real estate above list price.
mircea_popescu: so is visa paying oleg enough to compensate him for the loss of trilema link ?
asciilifeform: in protest against the nonsense where people ( who insisted on using ssl, but originally this was made mandatory for users of visa ) had to pay rentseeking hucksters thousands for 'this cert will work and browsers won't complain'
mircea_popescu: well, i can only hope they're paying him enough to compensate.
mircea_popescu: he missed out on getting a trilema link because of the letsencrypt bs ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just fyi, the site (osalabs.com) loads - you don't have a root CA which signed their certificate (letsencrypt cert). of course the point is still valid
asciilifeform: it is an obvious product of people who have nfi what the subject matter even is, and simply pasted fragments in microshit word together.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi re the actual meaning of the linked text. simply translated.
asciilifeform: 'the real nexus of this photo is the government official with the "you've got to be kidding me" expression, who exists in a power-structure that requires solemn professions of belief in this powerful weirdo's dumb rituals (including, but not limited to, spraying electronic devices with water, and not because a computer that has been rendered inoperable due to electrical faults is incidentally and thoroughly immune to malware)' >>>>>
asciilifeform: 'currently the activity of the virus is localized. leakage of official information from ministry machines is wholly ruled out, quoth the official representative of same, ...'
asciilifeform: 'Servers belonging to the ministry were not infected on account of the use of alternative operating system and natively produced servers using the ru elbrus cpu'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657831 << i dun wanna let this slip by . so : '12 May , the dept. of IT and information defense of the ru ministry of internal affairs detected a malware attack against PCs belonging to the ministry which were running Windows.',
mircea_popescu: apparently i lived a whole life without doing these strange conversions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is literally free to produce whatever rubbish it likes. because this is somehow useful to the folx who were dropped as children and wrote unix.
mircea_popescu: and "9.5 10^8" too ? or other random formats ?
Framedragger: otherwise fucks your wife
Framedragger: it spits back an int if it can parse the ascii string into one
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what this is. so what does it do, changes the string 9 to the numeral 9 ?
Framedragger: is itoa implemented in stdlib by default, then, as expected? NO! because fuck you
asciilifeform: which turns out is not actually a button that's connected. by paying mega-rent, asciilifeform is buying OTHER d00d a house.
asciilifeform: the only negotiating leverage available to the plebe, however, is not to buy. at all.
mircea_popescu: the core is the simple observation that if your trade value of whatever item is above book value, you should continue to manage it, not me.
mircea_popescu: the discussion was re buying at list / retail is for suckers / buying assets implicitly means they are discounted / stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: it's utterly unclear waht your chosen straw man has to do with the discussion, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: so then.
mircea_popescu: you'd go and see the square metre in wash swamp, if you were to buy it, yes ?
mircea_popescu: even leaving bitcoin aside, there's obviously bangladesh.
mircea_popescu: you want to lift a gram, you need a mN just like if you want to move a ton you need 1kN. there's no tiny discounts.
asciilifeform: there's a harvester, it harvests, wat.
mircea_popescu: this'd seem to explain why the redditards are single, as opposed to harem'd. not why they're poor.
asciilifeform: it's the logic of big-G constant. planet -- can hold atmosphere; piece of orbital rubbish - not.
mircea_popescu: seems to me same old thermodynamics applies at "work" and at "home". maybe i've just not had the right wife yet ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't comprehend this logic. how exactly is economy supposed to cease functioning once you enter your own door ? does water, strictly flowing downhill at the office, change its mind at home ? do you see it jump out of the sink, against gravity, and figure "oh, but of course, i'm not at work anymore duh!"
asciilifeform: ( granted this is different for 'investors' who buy'em up by the 1000. speaking here of humans who want place to live. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657737 << as i understand it, house 'buying' (virtually nobody actually buys , in usa, they take out massive mortgage) by a human, is not a financial transaction in the usual sense, in the sense you buy petrol . it is instead a fat-harvesting transaction, where you pay 100% of what the lizards weigh you to be worth.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 12:36 phf: i moved into a new place closer to the lizards, had a funny exchange in the lobby. this lady "got lucky" and "bought a house at list price" because apparently "everyone's scared because of the upcoming impeachment".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657734 << apparently this is the new fecal consensus -- nyt et al running 24/7 ads 'impeach nao!111' etc
mircea_popescu: Framedragger "imo the lang is fine, the unicode is bullshit, ~in this case~. numbers, diff story."
asciilifeform: them fingers betray.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 12:28 phf: i think the word chip is ruined for marketing purposes by clipper
asciilifeform: i'd rather write in befunge.
asciilifeform was reading, for lulz, a js bignumatron , a few days ago, and marveling at the sheer wtf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the idiotlang where ~all you get is string transforms
mircea_popescu: i had to talk of javascript. who the fuck thinks like this, i wish to know, "oh, i'll htmlencode a string and then replace some of the escaped items".
mircea_popescu suspects this may well be alf's favourite passtime. the endless field of register-clever, like a sort of chess.
ave1: Just reader of the logs for past year or so
asciilifeform: otherwise looks quite like yours, ave1
asciilifeform: only reason i haven't posted one yet is the square, presently making a proper one
ave1: (about the square)
ave1: It's a basic adaptation of what you can find on the web
ave1: Hello, I've been reading the ffa code
mircea_popescu: it's a cannonical example of what gui is/needs to be, obviously command line works but fuck me, really, i will type select so and so by hand each time all the time ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform web interface, prepopulates selects and etc so you don't have to type them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what does the proggy actually do ?
mircea_popescu: i spent five whole minutes belabouring under the misapprehension that it's metasyntactic reference, some sort of prototype and you gotta replace the a and b.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine these people are all trillionaires and so couldn't possibly care less about a million-ish item, chiefly because the us has no trillionaires.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck buys large or repeating items at list and why the everfucking love would they.
mircea_popescu: but i do occasionally buy at list price, for small occasionals like say when going out to a restaurant. i could have the slavegirls replicate anything on the menu, and it would come out even better half the time, but unless i care it's not worth the hassle.
phf: in this market the price is only going to go up, so you can flip the house when you are ready for retirement
phf: it's an excellent place to raise the kids, have you consulted with your wife?
phf: it's an investment in your future and the future of your family
mircea_popescu: or what, you're going to tell me these prices aren't based on discounted cash flows and other such actuarial judgements ? in the world's greatest economy the world's smartest people acting like a bunch of nation of africa retards ? unthinkabru!
mircea_popescu: seems to go against the most basic logic -- if the asset is worth more than its list in your hands, why should i take over management ? clearly you know what you';re doing and should keep doing it.
mircea_popescu: i guess i've been doing it wrong all these years ?!
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, there's a price higher than list ?
phf: i moved into a new place closer to the lizards, had a funny exchange in the lobby. this lady "got lucky" and "bought a house at list price" because apparently "everyone's scared because of the upcoming impeachment".
phf: i think the word chip is ruined for marketing purposes by clipper
mircea_popescu: i dunno but sounds like they might've vaporised something in that wc.
ben_vulpes: i will be SURE to listen VERY CLOSELY the next time a portlander has something to say about environmental justice and global warming.
ben_vulpes: and yet nobody except for the guy who benefits barely an iota from the fixing of the externality shoveling appears to give the slightest shit about the wasting of the single greatest blessing after my dick this metropolis has ever enjoyed
ben_vulpes: the waste has now STOPPED
ben_vulpes: and i didn't even need to bring any tools! or wire to extend the chain!
ben_vulpes: to fix the UNENDING STREAM of precious bull run DRINKING WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE TOILET
ben_vulpes: LOSING MY PATIENCE with the NOISE WHEN I GO TO PISS
mircea_popescu: because why should there be any!
mircea_popescu: almost as if it were the case the whole "contradictions" bs is really a subcase of "unearthing hypocrisy", ie the traditional codeword of the inept adolescent "fighting" with authority.
mircea_popescu: and in other random, isn't it funny that for all the millions of dorks going about finding "contradictions in the bible" there can't be had a single dork going about seeking "contradictions in wikipedia" ?
mod6: Here's the results from the second run of FG #5: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg5.dieharder_run2.txt
ben_vulpes: do find it funny that mircea_popescu eschews the "muh characters have a mind of their own!" line
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-8-sam-finally-gathered/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 8 - Sam finally gathered
ben_vulpes: i understand "reach the market" mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes are trucks in the us weighted in metric or dumbass ?
asciilifeform: that sr was to cut up the kg and sell at 1000% margin to folx who want to sit at home and get via the post
ben_vulpes: i still don't buy this imperial unit drug trade thing, but never having seen either metric or us tonne of any kind of product, will have to defer to those claiming knowledge
mircea_popescu: ~all comes back to the eternal "i'm a dog that thinks on the internet nobody can tell i'm a dog."
mircea_popescu: anyway, that was the original "sting" re silk road, some narc pretended to be a seller there ("hacked account, ie social engineered) and tried to sell pound of coke, nobody was buying so dork in charge decided to buy it on his own accouint. to "save face", because apparently "drug marketplace" that can't place a pound somehow has some face to be saved
asciilifeform: ( are there disengineers ? from disingenuous )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes actually, drugs reach market by the ton, so that's evidently false.
mircea_popescu: whatever, considering the "Fake it til lyou might eventually make it" attitude prevalent among the herd, it migh've been a nickle bag everyone kept pretending.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they use metric in tardlands now ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 22:32 asciilifeform: 'one time we got lost in the woods, and i was afraid that i would have to eat Tippy. then we were rescued, and i put Tippy back into the fridge, next to the other sandwiches.'