mircea_popescu: you want to technologize talking to people out of the equation of living ?
asciilifeform: at one point folx were used to typhus and everything, incl. houses of great lords ( see last night's plumbing b00k link ) stinking of shit. then came the tech to stop.
mircea_popescu: why not you know, get used to talking to mario $rando instead ? way the fuck easier than growing linen on the open ocean.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't even consider introversion as anything other than insanity, does he.
asciilifeform: 100% physically closed cycle, motherfuckers, on mars, if i could!1111
mircea_popescu: if you have the laundry.
asciilifeform: yes, them
mircea_popescu: what other people ? the other people who will grow your fucking food and do your laundry ?
asciilifeform: phf: if not open-ocean capable, it's rubbish, because fails at the elementary task of putting distance b/w operator and otherpeople
mircea_popescu: wait. he had an oceangoing vessel on "kalash budget" he bought off the shelf ?
mircea_popescu: she beleeted the internets ?!
asciilifeform: phf: he had, then, like idiot, got a wife
mircea_popescu: and i fully expect that as he drowns you'll find some other equivalent nonsense to fully expect will work.
phf: reading orlol i thought he already had a sailable device? why aren't there plans&details for what he already allegedly has
mircea_popescu vaguely regrets he's not harun al rashid, sends sipahi over orlol's place, give him a year to make the damned thing and force him to sail in it.
asciilifeform: umm phf these dun look like oceanic vessels
mircea_popescu: "livable" you know. the colonization of polynesia is living proof that man can live on a plank.
mircea_popescu: it was, then you just raise it six months later as if it hasn't.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that fg can be bought, and escher's drawings can not be bought. orlol is of the latter type.
mircea_popescu: and they also don't pay rent.
asciilifeform: if he puts in the time.
asciilifeform: artisan, on otherhand, can make 2 $ shoes that will outlast mircea_popescu's 2$k
asciilifeform: these are products of mass industry, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: the problem domain of "item that sails" is wel lcatered to. the problem domain of "doods feel like they're not personally interesting enough", never will.
mircea_popescu: you will never EVER be able to beat for price the discounted products of an industrial process through artisanal craftsmanship.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 00:27 mircea_popescu: oh, yeah, and the whole "rent free" nonsense bit a huge girder once i pointed out to you what the proper solution for this boating bs is ; then it turned out the whole thing was more of an exercise in inverting naggum's matrices "to see if it could be done" than anything specific.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 00:22 mircea_popescu: i need some roto'n culo to "invent" the houseboat for me like i need some indigent farmer to invent a new religion on the basis of "reading" tablets fallen from the sky.
phf: asciilifeform: the specifics of rent racket are different, but same principles apply to escaping modern rent racket in any kind of real sense, beyond "don't you hate paying rent??? what if i told you you don't have to pay rent ever again!1" snake oil
asciilifeform: those aristos died of stupidity-- thinking that they were exempt from having to learn about money, similarly to modern brahmins 'exemption' from crypto
mircea_popescu: inexplicable, you know (never said maximillian) how i owe money to merchants for armies to defend/acquire the very fucking towns in which these merchants live. how is it that max owes fugger rather than fugger owing max ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 00:32 mircea_popescu: not like it wasn't fucking obvious, hence the whole "student" vagabond class, already well entranched by the time of villon.
mircea_popescu: not like it wasn't fucking obvious, hence the whole "student" vagabond class, already well entranched by the time of villon.
mircea_popescu: the reason merchant class even appeared in medieval europe was because it's cheaper to rent a house in castle than it is to produce it. sucker's play, and that's how aristocracy bled to death.
mircea_popescu: if you factor into this "rent free" what tomahawks copst anbd what they do for that money, you're sunk.
phf: intuitively any rent free arrangement must necessarily cost more, because it's not subsidized by the master
mircea_popescu: oh, yeah, and the whole "rent free" nonsense bit a huge girder once i pointed out to you what the proper solution for this boating bs is ; then it turned out the whole thing was more of an exercise in inverting naggum's matrices "to see if it could be done" than anything specific.
mircea_popescu: (in passing let it be said that the universal and fundamental quality of snake oil is just this swiss army knife appearance, it's supposed to be everything for everyone but nothing in particular to no particular anyone.)
mircea_popescu: i need some roto'n culo to "invent" the houseboat for me like i need some indigent farmer to invent a new religion on the basis of "reading" tablets fallen from the sky.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise -- no further than last year i sat and drank on a "QUIDNON". it was large and well furnished, built specifically for being casino. sat, logically, ON RIVER, beause no waves. and so forth.
mircea_popescu: just more of the same tedious, lazy, loathsome "reasoning" by simile.
mircea_popescu: eh, my recollection of the discussion is, "there's houseboat and there's yacht. there's no batshit-nonsense for the ~same reason there's no golf club cum baseball bat cum tennis racket."
asciilifeform: technical problems admit technical solutions. but i suppose political problem ( mircea_popescu simply loathes the idea , Answer Lies In The Sewers - style, ohnoez folx with modest means living rent-free ) does not ..?
asciilifeform: iirc also mircea_popescu's technical objections were, imho, intellectually lazy ('pipe fittings will cost their weight in gold, because boat and they can' -- by same token rng MUST cost 10k $, because raytheon's does; 'must drag it to shore to paint bottom' -- also fixable, make the bottom from inconel or hastelloy ; etc )
asciilifeform: it's poor-misanthrope tech and i'm for it, to the hilt.
asciilifeform: i disagree that the ugly boat is intrinsically bad idea
mircea_popescu: oh, in other lulz : laura codruta kovesi, ro axe handle and for ~decade very insistently presented by usg media as a sort of hero of the fight against "corruption" (aka, non-usg capital) is now sought by police because "somehow" disappeared just as various legal proceedings started.
mircea_popescu: or is that just more of "he robbed me of the glamour of yachting as seen by a cat inside a cardboard box" ?
mircea_popescu: how about it's just a stupid idea by a clueless moron who pointedly refuses to acknowledge his ignorance because he figures if he fixes it he just becomes the normal unremarkable dork his mommy made him, whereas in militant idiocy he feels unique ?
asciilifeform: hem the wrong way in any one of several ways: it doesn’t fit the glamorous image of yachting, it is useless for either sport or ostentation, and it shows people the way to live and enjoy themselves on the water for very little money. Anathema!'
asciilifeform: in other crackpotteries, http://quidnon.blogspot.com/2017/05/a-boat-for-reluctant-sailor.html >> orlol's boat thing, 'To be sure, some people found the project fascinating and, based on the blog stats, went and read all about it. And some of them wished me and the project the very best luck. But the most vocal people were also the most negative. In all, it appears that most of the people who responded did so because QUIDNON rubbed t
mircea_popescu: there's not even poems about it or anything.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever encountered this problem in the history of life on earth.
asciilifeform: they're big on fungibility-of-everything.
mircea_popescu: us is really very "liquidated damages"-y. rather than mandate performances.
mircea_popescu: but it can also be used in private practice, such as the obligation of guy who owns the gate to give you a key because you have a right of egress, or w/e such.
mircea_popescu: most of the time, it's a method of review of administrative activity that's not well served by equity redress (special court for that). i got say the ro immigrations obliged by court to issuye work permits etc.
mircea_popescu: romanian law has this wonderful device, successor of the ancient writ of mandamus, "obligatia de a face". you can sue for the court to force specific performance out of people.
mircea_popescu: ~only benefit of the whole eu thing.
mircea_popescu: (the threat of being sued in romania and then getting in trouble when going to french conbference or w/e is remarkably powerful.)
mircea_popescu: did take wringing some necks of the "antispam" mafia, but they wring surprisinglky easily.
asciilifeform: kept for the purpose
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i typically send these ~from~ a gmail
Framedragger: asciilifeform: this'll sound stupid, but have you checked whether mail from your mail server does not get marked as spam by various heathen systems (gmail e.g.)?
Framedragger is content with politness-instrumental-role in this context, but not certain if even that helps (being more confrontational (if that's the word) from the get-go ain't a bad thing, etc...)
mircea_popescu: can't ask other boys to talk to the girls that interest you, it's just not how this whole talking business works.
mircea_popescu: this is kinda why you're stuck doing the writing -- you're the only one who can tell him from adam. i dun care. Framedragger is polite and everything, but that goes so far.
asciilifeform: doesn't advocate whitening, or any other obvious liquishit, which is a jawdropping rarity.
Framedragger: ok then will, can't hurt. but expect same success rate (0)...
asciilifeform: not. one. of the folx i wrote to, answered usefully, to date.
asciilifeform: ( afaik it is the broadest and most complete survey of subj, fwiw, when was written )
asciilifeform: for extra rage, http://cs.ucsb.edu/~koc/cren/docs/w06/trng.pdf >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3qKlv/?raw=true << described the multi-$k usg rngs, and the 'unsolved problem' etc etc
asciilifeform: anyway iirc i described the basic scheme of this previously.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if there were such a thing as an honest ic fab, the scintillator-cum-photodiode-cum-debiaser could easily be an ic
asciilifeform: the only improvement currently in the worx is the scintillator thing, which should give 1000x entropy debit ( and consequently 1000x faster testing, which is significant to asciilifeform who assembles and tests EACH UNIT BY MOTHERFUCKING HAND ) but that's really it.
asciilifeform: phf: i can see what you mean, but i dunno that the problem (if you can call it one) is addressable. thing ain't 'friendly' any moar than a claymore mine is friendly.
asciilifeform doesn't ask FG buyers anything, by default, unless they ask 1st
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: now that you mention it, did these arrive intact ?
asciilifeform: phf: wat, folx buy bare boardz all the time
asciilifeform: incidentally ( and this is not a seekrit, is clearly readable from the broadcast ) it was barely +ev after postage.
phf: asciilifeform: your thing is existentially terrifying, it demands a lot from the "user" (not sure it even accepts the notion of user) when they look at it, they see a glimpse of own mortality
asciilifeform: ( the last time, long ago, when asciilifeform solved-problem-and-nobody-bought )
asciilifeform: so far it's pretty hilarious, i build a box that actually solves $problem, and not even close to 'megabestseller', all the meanwhile 'people' paying, supposedly, multi-$k for usg rng.
mircea_popescu: well, be poor for a few more years, sell a coupla s.nsa shares, then you'll have.
mircea_popescu: but yes, costa rica mostly "colonial" style. which i like, myself, but i can see the "if it ain't small streets and vienese palaces everywhere it ain't the old country". guess not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference is that you could buy such a thing here.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is from vaguely-european-looking, architecturally, city, and simply likes the aesthetic, and considers everywhere where it ain't to be found, a monkeystan, is all.
mircea_popescu: and in the same vein, just came from accountant, who moved offices because whatever, fambly dispute over property etc. his new place, downtown san jose, is something like 2k sqft for 900 a month.
phf: i take it for asciilifeform unbroken means exactly cr or certain parts of mexico or southern india even, but with existing infrastructure to support his electron microscope. having to build that infra himself is mp'ism and is unacceptable
mircea_popescu: rolled today past this "entrance" at a 30 degree angle from the wall, two feet wide. whole place looks like hobbits built iut.
mircea_popescu should take you for a walk in barrio mexico. somehow everywhere the "barrio mexico" is this batshit insane / utterly pictoresque agglomeration of hovels. totally bohemian, all inclines and strange angles and shit.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the job of programming system is not to make operator squeal with orgasmic joy, but to behave ~predictably~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it looks pretty broken in the pics
mircea_popescu: meanwhile hung the whore, shit still broken.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661008 << not particularily. was just moving dollars into argentina under the hallucinatory delusion that it's the government rather than the country that's broken.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1660977 << must need get out more. thouigh from what i hear they charge peons 10% by now.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the delta means we could buy a coupla reddits or slashdots or w/e.
ben_vulpes: nah, just joking in re salary cuts to the last time this happened; "only economy in which salaries go down!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not terribly happy about the "congrats on completion of death march, here's the salary cuts figures."
mircea_popescu: ie, minigame is the most profitable game publisher ever, in relative terms and so on.
mircea_popescu: the ~8k in s.mg coffers went from ~10mn to ~20mn yes.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-24 21:04 asciilifeform: asciilifeform doesn't win ~anything from 'to the moon', but is happy for pete_dushenski et al
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: anyways, i get the distinct impression that you don't want to be particularly rich and see no obvious merit or advantage to wealth. so what else is there to say.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-24 20:48 BingoBoingo: OMG crashed all the way from $CURRENTYEAR to $STARTREKYEAR, Looking forward to $YUCCAMOUNTAINREPOSITORYPLANNEDFAILUREYEAR
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1660973 << it's not really crashing! fiat is solid, only other things can crash! vote pantsuit 2440!
pete_dushenski: there is that.
asciilifeform: which is what happened , as i understand, to most of the 'believer' folx.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i dun have this excuse, i was aware of the thing almost from beginning
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: nah, because you were in the right place at the right time for one and not the other
ben_vulpes: trinque: ah yes, i will have a million children and drain them all
ben_vulpes sadly does not, either wot or megabuxx
asciilifeform: yeah if you give'em a megabux's worth, they'll probably simply swallow it
ben_vulpes: i thought asciilifeform was the one winking and nudging trinque
asciilifeform: the bits magically evaporate from your hdd ?
asciilifeform: say, 'coinbase', 2y or so ago i bought some coin there ( to then lose on bbet... ) and it came out
ben_vulpes: nobody i know owns a single satoshi either, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: asciilifeform doesn't win ~anything from 'to the moon', but is happy for pete_dushenski et al
pete_dushenski: probably won't hit $JOOYEAR on this run but there's always next one (5777 currently)
BingoBoingo: OMG crashed all the way from $CURRENTYEAR to $STARTREKYEAR, Looking forward to $YUCCAMOUNTAINREPOSITORYPLANNEDFAILUREYEAR
pete_dushenski: then again, what retirement ? what plan ?
pete_dushenski: sounds like a decent retirement plan. offer sex ed classes on the side. the way education is SUPPOSED TO WORK!
ben_vulpes: "how to spot a thesaurus abuser"
ben_vulpes: the worx
pete_dushenski: this is asciilifeform's problem with his understanding of blogs. 'i don't talk about traveling on my blog because that's not the theme' isn't how contravex works. i talk about whatever the fuck i'm interested in or thinking about or want to remember for later, regardless of whether or not the same 10 ppl are glued to their monitors adoring every word.
pete_dushenski: wat. gotta teach the kids how to talk. not everyone went to asciilifeform's kindergarten in the clouds.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mostly up in the atmosphere
a111: 2017-03-16 <veen> the man-handling happened at the helm of the challenger, much much smaller airframe
mircea_popescu: anyway, the ratchet's been going one way only. the whole pretend-republic is ever less sustainable. the rest...
mircea_popescu still recalls the 3 months of "oh, electoral college, bulwark of democracy" pre november, to be followed by endless stream of "oh, antiquated institution, holds back ourdemocracy paradise" hence.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the hawaii "judge" lulz, /me is already preparing the popcorn for when the shoe will be on the other foot and libertards will be frothing at the mouth as to how THIS IS NOT ALLOWABLE!!! only democratic when does it for democratic party!!!1
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> the parallels with diana_coman eating away at the ps atrocity for minigame are striking, by the way. <- ha, catching up with the logs and I wanted to say precisely that!
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, let dorks figure out their own shit, what am i, free consultancy inc ?
mircea_popescu: there are some jobs for which old men are never fit, turns out.
mircea_popescu: fox could have run the whole story as martha stewart 2 and that's it.
mircea_popescu: by now the usgtronic bestiary is getting pretty well fleshed out. "black man" assassin and "latino hotel maid" lying-under-oath and so on.
asciilifeform: or the hole
asciilifeform: could likewise suggest prosecuting the bullet
BingoBoingo: To be fair what's the # of arkensexwithpigs prosecuted
mircea_popescu: SHE WAS IN THE SITUATION ROOM!!11
mircea_popescu: it's a sad day indeed for ourdemocracy when the panstuit clown can't even get away with her extrajudicial murders anymore
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo an' lemme guess, some kulak elements, at putin's behest, are intermeddling in the legal attempts to bury the whole thing ? tsk tsk.
mircea_popescu: lemme guess, pantsuit clown hitmen ? (in subsidiary, how can something be "discredited" "Conspiracy theories" before i even got to hear about it ? there's no minimum interval for discreditation ?)
mircea_popescu: o ? how\'d they kill himn ?
mircea_popescu: the parallels with diana_coman eating away at the ps atrocity for minigame are striking, by the way.
asciilifeform: and incidentally i have the storage thing .
mircea_popescu: starting this from the networking angle with a pastiche of ssh-perl is a bad idewa
mircea_popescu: once that is in place, a proper p2p mechanism can be built and trb will work way the fuck better than prb ever could.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the whole thing with block management hasta be redone, there's no way to separate strands. which is why work is ongoing from the other end, trying to figure out the proper foundation for storing blocks, and creating a storage engine model etc, ben_vulpes 's stuff.
asciilifeform: or further experiment with same.
asciilifeform: until this exists, asciilifeform does not recommend the use of 'wires' branch in battlefield.
asciilifeform: sometimes i gotta wonder why i even bother to do experiments, when we could just write down mircea_popescu's hypothesis as result.
mircea_popescu: no. the "wires patch does little more than spam the log" conclusion was had about a week into the wires experiment.
asciilifeform: hypothesis != conclusion
mircea_popescu: though honestly this was the conclusion about a week in, also.
asciilifeform: so perma-connects by themselves make 0 measurable diff.
asciilifeform: turns out, the random 'push new blocks to peers' thing does not in fact work, aha, because they don't 'stay new' for very long
asciilifeform: at all other times, blox are a 'push' mechanism. and naturally ~100% of all incoming pushing is prb idiocy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check out the dividends of intelligence. discussion with random brat was not worth having, until i had it, and then recounted it, and now it's worth it -- plenty of people who want to be writers or bloggers or whatever but the head doesn't help them would gladly pay moneyz for such "Content" as idle chatter hath produced.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of sad prototypes : asciilifeform discovered ( and why did it have to be ' asciilifeform discovered ...' when other folx were nominally also testing...) that trb node with 'wires' still happily falls behind by 100s of blox, and never catches up,
mircea_popescu: but the big deal is that it's not just bitcoin which, even in its sad prototype form, is a much better alternative to "currency" as understood currently ; it's that tmsr is actually a much better replacement for the united nations.
trinque: phf: ftr, if ya stop the "now I think you're lying" when I'm an idiot, could shake your hand.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole tjhing with the "bretton woods agreement" / "our democracy peace and un" is an attempt to predicate the meaning on an authority predicated on the meaning, through the avenue of "we hate war". nice and good but can't work, and so it surprisingly does not work.
trinque might be a dumb guy, but can't remember the last time I lied.
mircea_popescu: two respectable gents called each other idiots etc.
trinque: the whole thing was instructive
trinque: clearly so. and behold, phf and I can't seem to parse messages, probably both wondering what the fuck the other intends by the character
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:38 mircea_popescu: there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning.
mircea_popescu: trinque that footnote relates directly to the earlier discussion re possiblity of meaning ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656354 ) specifically in the sense that war is unavoidable because... the agents can't... understand each other anymore.
mircea_popescu: ant it to try and use it to somehow plumb the endless depths of the chasm yawning inside, the horrid void of inexistence.
mircea_popescu: anyway. so now imagine ~half of all the chicks her age are also blessed with her mentality and it should be plain obvious there's NO POSSIBILITY of satisfying them in any other way than through netflix. because, even if you bougth them all ferraris, through buying half a billion of the thing they wouldn't be veblen goods anymore and so no longer serve the purpose. because they don't want all this shit for itself ; they just w
trinque: fascinates me then, what a king creates in his own mind.
trinque: http://trilema.com/2016/what-lasts-forever/#footnote_0_70544 << makes me think about one's own mind. if no large, esteemed node among the graph of meaning, psychosis.
mircea_popescu: what, am i going to become them ? take a more expensive, more exquisite path to the same derealization ? noty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same reason you so eagerly read the $crud.
mircea_popescu: but, the reason i'm not nearly as "entomology"-inclined as moist folks here is because i have a very heavy undercurrent of "hey mr p! you gotta talk to his one."
asciilifeform: then why in satan's name interface with 2legged cockroaches
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do you find these ??
mircea_popescu: then idiots make business plans including advertising budgets. to reach these psychos. why ? how's it supposed to even work ?
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, "read and comprehend and allign mental space to it", no way. just the comprehend would be extra, in the sense of i dunno, a fucking ferrari. no, just you know, clicking on it and then forgetting about the tab. something like that.
mircea_popescu: yes. in so many words, exactly, and i also bet you that not only she didn't read the link, but she imagines that if she had read it she'd be doing me a favour, and more properly speaking she should be paid to read it.
mircea_popescu: why the everloving fuck ? because yet another pancakeface "working in" bullshit she absolutely does not understand / has no business fucking with ?
mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/j2mgG/?raw=true << this chick seriously imagines ima... actually let's take it by parts. this chick imagines that the fact she's not held an actual conversation ~is someone else's fault!~. she imagines someone's going to cut his beard for her dumb ass, not even as a hope but as an expectation, and she imagines she'll get free tickets.
mircea_popescu: gotta be teh dreamers, that's the only way the batshit insane expectations of 8 bn heros in their own stories can be "satisfied" after a fashion.
mircea_popescu: the mtgox idiots frankly don't see why their situation should be any different from the situation of those fyre festival idiots. why are THOSE getting refunds and free tickets "next time" ?
mircea_popescu: 18 years is excessive, yet they regard it as nearly criminally short. 25 more the norm.
mircea_popescu: and this follows very strioctly ands quite necessarily from the workings of moderity / ourdemocracy. what do you need to get into the train ? not the physical ability, the PRIOR CLAIM. restaurant ? anything. and this on top of very extensive "parenting" in the form of mothering.
mircea_popescu: the physical realisation of the socialist/idiot's dreamed world is NO CONCERN OF HIS.
mircea_popescu: that's the mechanism, very fundamentally imago-logic. this for that, this stands for that, etc.
mircea_popescu: they had this experience where their computer game crashed and mommy bought them another one, because it was their xmas gift or w/e, ie they had THE CLAIM. and then made whole.
mircea_popescu: see, they never lived this experience where they go on horseback, run into vienna, rape some girls.
mircea_popescu: no, no, they don't care about the physical reality. the mental articulation is "1. i have claim ; 2. mommy makes good".
asciilifeform: also what would one have to smoke, to believe that there's any btc, usd, zimbabwe dollars, dubloons, etc. left in the smoking ruin.
mircea_popescu: this is how they argue with their insignificant others : "oh, i was miss ohio state when i married oyu! i want a couch!"
asciilifeform: even in theory
asciilifeform: i still dun get why the usd exchange rate of btc would matter to the mtgox proceedings
mircea_popescu: the lengthy pile opf chairs that is "our democracy" falls apart the moment you kick any prior out.
trinque: the lawyers keep you perpetually in court
mircea_popescu: "jail" is this theoretical construct for online dorks.
asciilifeform: and i had nfi that there were reddit terminals in jp jail
mircea_popescu: and as far as these idiots are concerned, 100% of "life" experience comes from tv and such stories, and therefore it logically follows that yes, pretty good ods heel to face turn etc.
Framedragger: lul magicaltux is actually responding on reddit (for gasmask folks, https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/6cwd82/plz_vote_mr_kobayashi_we_the_mtgox_creditors/)
mircea_popescu: basically, what's going on here is, the STORY of life wouldn't make sense, ~as a story~, ie it wouldn't be put on tv, if there wasn't a twist here.
mircea_popescu: trinque someone's gotta pay for the hospital bills eh.
trinque: yeah, when somebody steals my wife, whores her out, then keeps money, returns wife, that's whole.
mircea_popescu: the internet really made it obvious i actually don't like people.
Framedragger: because of the bull run, yknow
a111: Logged on 2017-05-22 14:57 mircea_popescu: nah, uk leads the shitshow.
asciilifeform: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-22#1660095 lulz, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhfSVJXsAA4uId.jpg
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/bitcoin-network-difficulty-up-6-42-percent-for-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Difficulty Up ~6.42 Percent For Another All Time High
mircea_popescu: that silbert schmuck is on his what, 5th "oh, i will change the world" hear him roar only to be used as a cum rag ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/still-no-consensus-supporting-bitcoin-hardfork-barry-silbert-pretends-otherwise-to-his-peril/ << Qntra - Still No Consensus Supporting Bitcoin Hardfork – Barry Silbert Pretends Otherwise To His Peril
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: the key insight, to use water as the SOLE moving part inside the shit-contacting subunit of the device, took ~200y from the first 'water closets' of modern europe...
asciilifeform: consider the -- quite malodorous -- 'pan closet', for instance. >> https://archive.is/VstFy << mechanical, moving parts, touched -- and slowly accumulated -- shit
ben_vulpes: in other hilarities that archive.is doesn't do an entirely perfect job of archiving: http://archive.is/hPlfc
asciilifeform finds the history of the shitter a fascinating thing, in that it followed in same pattern as, e.g., small arms -- i.e. went through a peak of RIDICULOUS complexity before finally simplified into modern form.
ben_vulpes: the orifice is on a floor that once housed train station and train company employees
asciilifeform: hm i assumed it was, given the stories
asciilifeform: incidentally, wtf is the reason why a ~public~ shitter even has a tank & ballcock
asciilifeform: dunno, my tank's lever nut was a veritable antikythera, wholly solid ball of rust.
ben_vulpes: as in "child, the might blaster is for lubricating and unfreezing bolts, not eating"
ben_vulpes: the mighty penetrating blaster
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what, incidentally, is 'the mighty blaster' ?