mircea_popescu: asciilifeform altough after that utterly shameful episode with the transvestite whore living at his house...
mircea_popescu: it seems the parsimonious explanation.
phf: erlehmann: people who can't roll their own grammar can still buy two separate machines though
erlehmann: phf who believes people who cannot roll their own grammar can roll their own compar-virtual-boundary-thingy?
asciilifeform: in recent sads, 'Our batch prime-generation algorithm suggests that, to help reduce energy consumption and protect the environment, all users of RSA—including users of traditional pre-quantum RSA—should delegate their key-generation computa- tions to NIST or another trusted third party. This speed improvement would also allow users to generate new RSA keys and erase old RSA keys more frequently, limiting the damage of key theft.'
mircea_popescu: speaking of, what should the flymake for lisp be called ? drool ? dribble ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect the idea is that systems which require something like make are broken anyway.
erlehmann: meaning almost all software is rotten to the core based on this alone
erlehmann: experimenting with a medium-size C++ project (liberation circuit) i found that there can be as much non-existence dependencies as “normal” dependencies
erlehmann: but apparently, i am the only one who does. DJB thought of it, he has notes on it.
erlehmann: i am of the opinion that all build systems except my own redo implementation are shit. reason: non-existence dependencies. if you search for header files at locations A, B, C, find it at C, then C is a dependency. but if non-existing A or B start to exist, the target must rebuilt.
mircea_popescu: lol. there's that joke with the christian and jew debating the truth of the bible also.
mircea_popescu: actually in my youth i deemed as the highest achievement in literature a situation where multiple parties participated in a conversation that admits an interpretation for each.
erlehmann: therefore: no deterministic context-free jokes
erlehmann: at one langsec and tea gathering i suspected that every joke contains a misunderstanding on some level
mircea_popescu: hey, i beat the slavegirls if they fail to infer ; and also if they infer incorrectly.
erlehmann: i can, but it puts the burden on me. possible misunderstandings.
erlehmann: i also highly prefer it if people talk to me like that. the worst people are those that are like “please send me this and that” – “send me an email with the full details of what and where i should send it please” – “can't you just infer it from the last time you mailed me something?”
asciilifeform: ( in 'p', nor ethertardium )
mircea_popescu: any other glaring errors anyone ?
erlehmann: the universe provides a halting guarantee: proton decay
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#footnote_2_68942 << there we go, updated.
erlehmann: putting the mechanism in your head
erlehmann: maybe. ethereum has a gas price, yet it is still turing complete, still reentrant, still vulnerable.
erlehmann: asciilifeform the problem is the different assumption people have about components. the programmer feeding input to ffmpeg expects audio files to be input. a recognizer would solve that.
asciilifeform: on the contrary, any literate fella using a decompressor , expects
erlehmann: reason: ffmpeg takes synthesizer instructions in plain text
erlehmann: every idiot who just takes an uploaded file and converts it using ffmpeg is just a 4 line text file away from me filling whatever storage the idiot has on the converter system
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i think i do understand the many implementations thing. data that flowing over abstraction boundaries has the potential to trigger a holographic fracture (i believe that is how it is called). to prevent this, you need a parser and an unparser and both need to have the same grammar (max deterministic context-free) and check it.
mircea_popescu: in which mp discovers that how to register with deedbot is NOT actually linked in the topic.
erlehmann: yes, how to participate. i might have read it at some point in the past.
mircea_popescu: can you see the chan topic in your client ?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann well, i'll rate you so you'll be able to self-voice. and see topic, it's in there.
Framedragger: good practice, props for persevering! (i'm the "modularise, bitch" guy at work)
mircea_popescu: i suspect you ~don't~ get the "many implementations" thing after all :D
erlehmann: really, 3 to 4 months. some immediately get it, but others do it after that timeframe.
erlehmann: but it works. turns out that if you tell people in code reviews for 3 months straight that they should define a grammar and check their inputs, they start to do that.
erlehmann: i am the guy at my workplace who always rants about grammars, but i think i am the only one who actually did philosophy in university
erlehmann: the seven turrets of babel is a TL;DR for langsec. it collects antipatterns (in section III) and remedies (in section IV)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 18:53 asciilifeform: so i had two base64's png files in there,
mircea_popescu: what was the intended purpose ?!
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i also recommend http://langsec.org/papers/curing-the-vulnerable-parser.pdf
erlehmann: i told all my coworkers to read it. when i told maradydd, she was like “well, that's like the intended purpose”
erlehmann: > The Seven Turrets of Babel: A Taxonomy of LangSec Errors and How to Expunge Them, Falcon Darkstar Momot, Sergey Bratus, Sven M. Hallberg, Meredith L. Patterson
erlehmann: are you aware of the seven towers of babel?
erlehmann: sane software would have rejected everything not conforming to the grammar
erlehmann: which is the only thing that makes vdiff possible
erlehmann: well, i get that GNU diff does not actually verify that there is a timestamp
mircea_popescu: yes. the vdiff processing was arrived at through historical choice rather than deliberate design. therefore i'd say it's lacking it by accident.
erlehmann: full recognition before processing, as they say
erlehmann: i understand the “many small independent implementations” idea, but does the republic have a grammar for vdiff output? i am sure this is faulty somehow, as it contains neither a recognizer nor an unparser http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/bin/vdiff
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking epic, if you ask me, take a fat old nag to COURT, where she fucking loves to go, and dreams every day of her life, and then say THE BAD!!!1 about HER!!!!!! omfg. and she can't give all teh replies!
mircea_popescu: the guy strikes me as dumber than rocks, but what do i know.
mircea_popescu: well, they stole one of the guy's airplanes at some point. that sort of thing i imagine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: curious, how do they intend to collect this tax
mircea_popescu: those 30 bn do include, of course, the blue diamond stolen back in 1989 from saud faisal's palace by a thai janitor, who was then caught by a lt-general of the thay royal police, except when the thais flew back to ryadh to return the loot the saudis discovered the parts not missing were fake.
mircea_popescu: which is rather convenient, seeing how he inherited nothing less than thailand's ~30bn crown fortune (he's the guy in the "scandalous" party where his woman was topless around the pool o noes!11).
mircea_popescu: and in today's lulz : bavaria, which apparently still imagines itself a state for some reason, has decided Mahawachiralongkon Bodinthrathepphayawarangkun (that's, incredibly enough, not a german national's name) spends most of his time there, and therefore they get to tax his inheritance.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/lazy-wreckers-actually-dare-to-name-their-thing-etherdoge/ << Qntra - Lazy Wreckers Actually Dare To Name Their Thing "EtherDoge"
shinohai: Also BingoBoingo ... the Noriega article may be one of your best yet :D
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mod6: I haven't gotten openbsd to do quite what I want yet, even with the -crtscts flag set for stty.
trinque: on my gentoo box it is part of the "sysinit" runlevel.
gabriel_laddel_p: I don't have it in front of me either so idk. Have not touched this project in a ~month or more. That /etc/init.d/devfs exists is news to me, and will try messing with it next
trinque: not looking at the thing in question, so don't know.
trinque: maybe the kernel is mounting /dev in an initrd, but when leaving initrd, nobody's attaching it to the new root.
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: I'm the very opposite of "uncheck happy", I use the VERY SAME kernel binary being used in
trinque: you could certainly turn off the driver which would present your sata drive if you got too uncheck-happy configuring your kernel.
gabriel_laddel_p: which I suppose credits your /dev/ is not being populated correctly theory
trinque: you will see after having loaded the driver for whichever block device, that sdb1 and so on were created.
trinque: also inspecting /dev for the presence of your block device.
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: there is no error to paste. Nothing is missing, nothing shows up as missing when I strace it.
gabriel_laddel_p: Oddly enough, the fdisk binary from https://www.phenix.bnl.gov/~purschke/RescueCD/ works, even though I have a different kernel than it ships with (the masamune one), and different shared libs (masamune ones).
trinque: sounds like you didn't pack along the right kernel modules, or otherwise didn't mount dev correctly
gabriel_laddel_p: emacs, htop, mc, sbcl all work fine, but X11 & fdisk do not, which sort of screws me. strace works, but tracing the X process does not turn up anything useful
mircea_popescu: but the supposed "fear" merely translates a desire, which is the desire to be not-different from the rest. which... hey, everyone's entitled to be plain, boring, lame an' as ordinary as their wife can stand.
mircea_popescu: for all the blather, the famed "blacklisting" of communists did ~nothing, and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: there's no fucking reprisals. so some stuck up brits asked some german physicist living with two women to kindly go away. ok, so ? some other people gave him a different-same job.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, and not so long ago, the ~same "academics" would have hid that they were born black, say, for same vague "fear of reprisals". or, for that matter, gay. what exactly changed, there's no more reprisals nao because what, let me guess, awareness has been risen ?
renzo: can't argue with that, how does one protect someone from something that exists only in their heda
mircea_popescu: trying to protect people from things they imagine isn't likely to yield results.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger asciilifeform you will notice that the perceived problem is very unlikely to be a genuine problem. to use the familiar field of sexuality -- people also don't hit up on girls, and in direct proportion to how hot they are, because they perceive possible harm may come!!1
mircea_popescu: one day around noon i bought a girl in the street in nantucket ; by nightfall the respectable housewives all the way down to whitechapel and all the way up past maine had re-evaluated their priceless litter accordingly.
mircea_popescu: they aren't, of course, but what's that to do with feelings.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 22:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did yarvin / urbit EVER do anything other than selling "space" of various description ? it's like reddit by now, wut.
mircea_popescu: you know how it goes when you get the flu and ancient cold sores also flare up ? bitcoin climbs, as a result all sorts of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657609 / bs "feel involved" and relevant and whatnot.
renzo: Have to admit i haven't visited your blog since the time of the DAO hack... Mircea, what do you make of this ETH bubble?#
mircea_popescu: gives you the ability to speak.
asciilifeform: imho idea is approx as realistic as the space ship in same -- but entertaining yarn nevertheless.
Framedragger just wondered if one of the functions of "concents" in stephenson's anathem (which i haven't yet read) are to reduce this kind of "but i have two cats and mortgage!" compromise possibility for scientists and the like
Framedragger: (not that this is original at all, just another articulation of same old.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah, taleb had a piece about that "thrown to the dogs" exposure (if that's the word): https://medium.com/incerto/the-skin-of-others-in-your-game-3f51d8ccc3fb - "independent academics" are not at all independent, etc etc (this also creates the "give advice without skin in the game" issue, so on.)
asciilifeform: ( and sure, occasional superstar mircea_popescuist pulls off 'money + hatespeechblog' in concert . but for mortals there is typically some degree of engineering tradeoff )
asciilifeform: perhaps he wants, e.g., tenure, rather than to be thrown to dogs.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 01:26 mircea_popescu: why not increase income ? it's the traditional approach.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-30 14:37 mod6: asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
asciilifeform: some folx would rather http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663156 than associate with 'terrorists', say
Framedragger: of course. not much use in the first place. it's not about any mega opportunity / utility loss, just, d00d seemed ~healthy, there was no excuse (free! relevant shit!), and *yet*. i know the whole history of the forum is full of this, it's just fucking depressing what can i say.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: why the sad? we dun really need that d00d for anything, afaik
Framedragger: damn, that response re FUCKGOATS somehow made me sadder than random $afk emotional things. "you had your chance" and any onus to follow-up is now on their end (demarcation line has been set), yes, lost cause, but still, damn. such a waste of flesh.
asciilifeform: i would have even said 'throw out the idiot os' but on linux also it defaults to flowcontrol-on
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663444 << eh, what difference does it make. as i tell derpy girlies at least weekly, "you had your chance." was there more to it than that ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: thx for looking into the problem from your end as well. s.nsa with the custom-o-service!
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663190 << ah. good find. that's almost certainly the culprit on openbsd. but god help anyone try to find ~only one~ such snag on the flaming shitpit that is macosx. *spits*. stty dun even pretend to work in 'terminal' because it doesn't talk to serial devices. at all. no luck yet with coolterm, quickterm, etc. either. they just... freeze.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 19:56 mircea_popescu: "in the us the nsa has powers and bla bla bla. why are you crying, little boy" "I WANT TO GO TO THE USA!!11"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663421 << we had that in the soviet block. approximately http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450314
trinque: obviously this notion of christian respectability must die, but there it is.
trinque: and you're handing them a FUCKGOATS, lol
trinque: recall the guy who got burned at stake for wearing an anime shirt with hot chicks on it at cern.
asciilifeform: they won't undress and juice for $rando .
asciilifeform: to play devil's advocate -- it is rather like if they were, e.g., mircea_popescu's pets
asciilifeform: i dun even go so quickly to 'ineptitude' -- perhaps they are quite 'apt' but not at the job naively supposed by outsider.
mod6: unified theory of ineptitude
asciilifeform: i dun even have a handy 'unified theory' of this
asciilifeform: in other updatez, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661163 >>>>> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WuqOG/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The ability to take anything that isn't bolted down and convert into a medium of exchange is an area my survey of current republican assets finds lacking.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/#selection-2959.0-2975.867 << oblig
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BingoBoingo: The thing is walmartroniuomists dun learn anything that would be useful to Republican causes should they recover. Opiumist tends to pick up wide array of skills useful to fight against various USG's if only they recover.
asciilifeform: i expect to get done in by it personally, if not by anything else first, and i dun even eat it ! ( it is however in the water , air, fraudulently mixed into $maxint premium phood etc )
trinque: lobbes: "This is a set of ideas that I???ve tossed around with friends for a while. Unless something huge changes, this is probably the only viable solution." << oh, ok.
asciilifeform: not to rain on the parade, but must point out: moar fine folx, incl. pretty gurlz, nuked by walmatronium than opium
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but Hussein Bahamas invited it to USA to further his white genocide agenda.
lobbes: Although, he does paint the accurate picture of the us population being destined to become slaves of nobody-in-particular. Just labeled as "UBI"
BingoBoingo: One of those things. Go to meeting see pick up X day coin. A while later see them try again and pick up X milestone coin again. Last week discover "one last time" meant "one last time" that particular time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they killed your particular pet ?!
mircea_popescu: and being americans they whispered about it, because nobody can have a blog.
asciilifeform: even at ye olde backwater u. of maryland, there were persistent rumours, of profs who found, with simple perltron, gigantic cribbed segments of homework, and then ordered to forget-whole-thing by the dean, because perp was a blueblood
mircea_popescu: time'll deal with them sure enough.
asciilifeform: they will, i expect, be dealt with.
asciilifeform: they don't test for it
mircea_popescu: im sure there's no cheating going on in "social sciences".
asciilifeform: meanwhile völkischer beobachter does not disappoint , https://archive.is/ja4zY >> 'At Brown University, more than half the 49 allegations of academic code violations last year involved cheating in computer science. ... At Stanford... as many as 20 percent of the students in one 2015 computer science course were flagged for possible cheating'
asciilifeform: theoretically one could ionize the liquishit in a gigantic arc lamp, even. but even this, is harder than it looks
mircea_popescu: then it's uv+ozone, and so on
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663378 << uv is usually the answer, though EVEN THAT is not good enough sometimes.
asciilifeform: one of the two great soroses
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> funnily enough there are things that will not die, in bleach . << This is when you use a different species of bleach
trinque: managed to navigate the place without touching a damned thing with hands
asciilifeform: funnily enough there are things that will not die, in bleach .
BingoBoingo: I am not in the business of growing negro supertumors. I would probably use bleach.
asciilifeform: ( with bent neck : you can vacuum up old 'soup' without denting the 'business end' of the bottle with the pipette )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: typically you'd use liquid culturemedia, rather than agar
asciilifeform: davout probably has the details.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663357 << helo, unlike in the movies, is pretty hard for uninitiated folx to lift : ground effect is a bitch, gotta work the cyclic, the collective, the pedals, in sync properly
phf: it's the kind of stiffness that makes one indistinguishable from a corpse
phf: (that's also why aerial work with unprepared people works, until it suddenly doesn't: people get scared, start compensating intellectually, throw the balance out)
BingoBoingo: Anyways, people are the hardest load to lift.
phf: people reflexively shift weight when lifted, self-stabilizing into the force vector
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc folx who transport corpses for a living, also record that the latter are considerably more difficult to move than the living )
asciilifeform: there is a related legend that, at one time exercise weights were forbidden in new york prison. inmates then began to use ~each other~ for weights
asciilifeform: and ftr 70kgs afaik gives 0 trouble to a healthy d00d, whether in chick or knapsack or comp (e.g. my lispm)
asciilifeform: i dunno re mircea_popescu's barbell , but mine doesn't have hands and help the lifter by hanging on !11
asciilifeform: this is also a good time to remind fols, THIS ^^ is the kind of thing 'rng testing' shines in, picking up misconfiguration/catastrophic os retardation/similar
asciilifeform: the preponderance of 0xff 0xfd etc is screaming hint
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: the heuristic 'if i can lift $creature, it is not too massive' heuristic worx
mircea_popescu: the problem with usian chicks isn't necessarily "being the weight of three girls" (mostly cuz i don't expect you'd talk to those), but this unhealthy / inflated aspect due to forced adipose growth for toxin burial. ~that~ sheds, once toxin intake is discontinued, of course.
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, human female will be fifty something to seventy something or thereabouts. if you like big tits and big asses you'll be at the 70s side of it. 100kgs is really excessive even for adult males.
asciilifeform: most of the memorable ones.
mircea_popescu: which photos ? i'm actually quite variant, there's all sorts.
asciilifeform: ( on other hand there is some variation in tastes : e.g. it seems to asciilifeform that he likes gurlz with fully 2x the live mass of the ones in mircea_popescu's photos, for instance )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had some article where he describes the process. but what's the worst 'patient' he cured ?
asciilifeform: i'm curious re the 'it sheds'
asciilifeform: but who knows, maybe other end will learn to like 'heavyweights'
asciilifeform: i think the mcamericans fixed this
mircea_popescu: anyway, re needing : white females have been historically the better selling slaves, in all cultures. i dun expect this will change.
mircea_popescu: but shit can't continue, they even made a special lab to certify cultures etc.
mircea_popescu: that's going to be a major butthurt, in the coming years, lots of stuff will have to be thrown out, and people dun really wanna.
mircea_popescu: very hardy and hey, hygiene still mystery among the medical lab.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by now it's apparently in over half all other cultures.
mircea_popescu: i imagine ~same reason socket still supplies current for the ~ton or so of hela in existance.
asciilifeform: 'dreaming' is powered by very real energy source. q is re why does the socket still supply current.
asciilifeform: cn folx are, overall, bright enough, i suspect that at some point they will wake up to the fact that they do not in fact need the euro/usa schmucks for anything
a111: Logged on 2017-05-24 16:37 mircea_popescu: gotta be teh dreamers, that's the only way the batshit insane expectations of 8 bn heros in their own stories can be "satisfied" after a fashion.
mircea_popescu: the problem is not really "carrying capacity" in any objective sense, but carrying capacity of pretense, as discussed in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1660840
asciilifeform: fixed by exporting excess biomass the 1st time, by shredding with artillery 2nd
asciilifeform: density per se isn't interesting, but rather density vs carrying capacity. and iirc europe was pretty 'full', by this metric, in the 18th c
mircea_popescu: perhaps a better measure is "hallucinated self-determination", ie uppity twerps pretending like they get to "make choices", something the chinese are very carefully keeping in check. this may continue indefinitely, in which case it might never even come, that time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "time comes" factor is traditionally thouht to deal with "population density", yet the inept west never dealt with pop density even vaguely close to what the chinese are handling ok.
asciilifeform: in point of fact there's plenty of 'normal' things asciilifeform does not do, because he does not expect to live long enough to make use of'em
asciilifeform: when the external power source dries up
asciilifeform: q is whether they'll reinvent it when the time comes. like the swiss did, and brits etc
mircea_popescu: all those theoretical concerns aside, chinese banks routinely handle arbitrary size deposits and their agents are amused at this white man "mony raunderin" thing
asciilifeform: even a soap seller could be portrayed as 'defrauding the crown with inferior soap' etc
asciilifeform: *then
asciilifeform: (if not in their l1 than l2..)
asciilifeform: how many mega-magnates with 0 business with the crown, tho
mircea_popescu: without exception they're fraud in public funds, afaik.
asciilifeform: dunno that all of the publicized 'corruption' trials have this trivial explanation, 'didn't pass the bakshish up the chain'
mircea_popescu: it actually has a pretty close approximation of the "unreviewable source" principle, too.
asciilifeform: if contemplating 'who is actual country' based solely on where the yet-untungstenated physical au lives, possibly only cn is now 'country'.
mircea_popescu: so if it was the pile of wealth that "bent space and time", you'd have had swiss cucks cca 1810, rather than have them provide vatican guards as the respectable manly troop the us marine core tried to copy.
asciilifeform: how's panama doing these days.
mircea_popescu: anyway, point being : the relative proportion of wealth stored there actually diminished throughout 19th and 20th centuries.
mircea_popescu: didn't make that much dsifference, they were small.
asciilifeform: just like it was for the swedes
asciilifeform: being a piece of europe not wrecked at all by the war, was mega-boost
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with that view being that in bitcoin terms, swiss piles of money were lowest after ww2.
mircea_popescu: i don't. i'm satisfied there's just idiocy of the "consensus seeking" nature involved, no more.
asciilifeform: but i suspect there are 'physical limits' involved
mircea_popescu: and they didn't do too badly with it.
mircea_popescu: there's rather pregnant demand for a country with a constitution specifically forbidding "provenance" verifications. put a pecunia non olet clause, win ~all the remaining capital.
asciilifeform: rumour has it, usg made 'offer' to various ru exiles; those who refused to put coin in the piggy, now 'have problems'.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: last iirc abramovich was still there.
mircea_popescu: well... in that case they long ago sold.
asciilifeform: but to play the bubble
asciilifeform: dunno that they bought-to-live
asciilifeform: no word so far on what the brits will do when they discover that the 'sticker prices' for the golden toilets are a work of '2 old jews and their painting' fiction , and ~worthless on market
asciilifeform: esp that of idiot 'oligarchs' from ru who thought that they could happily live to old age in the enemy's camp
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2016-17/criminalfinances.html >> brits prepare to 're-investigate where the money came from' for all posh properties in london etc and confiscate if 'unclean'
mod6: ya, was thinking that myself. could have been something else weird, but he seemed to update to V99994 and then been able to get past the issue.
mircea_popescu: also can't wait for the brand new http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/antifa.gif marine corps.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-30 05:49 trinque: "omg you can't do this to *me*" on all sides of the day's nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-30 05:37 trinque: http://sanangelolive.com/news/live-thought/2017-05-27/group-disregards-history-tirade-against-sam-houston << Channel 2 (NBC) in Houston reports there will be a counter-protest over the statue by open carry groups. Channel 2 quotes the vice president of Texas Open Carry David Amad, "Our event is to make sure they understand that one way or another that statue is not going anywhere."
asciilifeform: ty mod6 for putting in the sweat.
asciilifeform: but if mod6 comes up with a recipe, i would like to include it in the manual.
asciilifeform: FG transmits at 115200,1,noparity, and this is readily verifiable by anyone with an oscilloscope and eyes, or with linux box, or dos box. i will not be taking responsibility for every broken os on the planet.
mod6: don't bother for now, just stick with whatever else you were doin'. I don't wanna get you off on a side-quest for this.
asciilifeform: ... or i could let the bsd aficionados take on this chore.
asciilifeform: though it ~does~ have a serial port , on the docking cradle (it's a 'toshiba libretto'), and perhaps i could dust it off
mod6: ok, np. i'll dig into it later. we'll get to the bottom of it. just some weird config deal.
asciilifeform: i encountered this nonsense when i built my very first prototype rng, iirc mircea_popescu even turned the resulting dialogue into a whole post on his www
asciilifeform: and the output is unusable because now skewed
asciilifeform: if you don't disable flow control ( in-band idiocy ) the os nukes the terminal whenever it encounters magic char
asciilifeform: and hah, i think we nailed the problem pete_dushenski had
asciilifeform: however if your system fails to set 115200 baud ( and on every box i have here, it is the default baud rate, HOWEVER you MUST turn off flow control )
mod6: ok, if `cat` won't pad, or do any weird buffer hijinks, then i'll give it a shot.