asciilifeform: i dun actually hate apl. it ain't chinese liquishit, is actually pretty small and readable alphabet. that probably oughta have occupied the upper half of ansi 8bit coding, instead of the rubbish that's in there nao.
trinque: I was relating the uniturd thread to $girl in the pool just now, and she challenged erlehmann to start writing software in emojis. and if not, why communicate with it.
asciilifeform: and it ain't useless space, either, i like my current dig mainly for the enclosedbalcony. sunlight, it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: instead tell me you were there while it happened and didn't notice, and i shall believe it, but also point to it for your benefit.
asciilifeform: for the sake of space.
mircea_popescu: now tell me they did not do this in berlin and i shall not believe you.
mircea_popescu: the ~only thing all survivors of socialism agreed on, even the ones too dumb to live.
mircea_popescu: why ? because even in their sclerotic stupid fucking heads that should by rights have been taken off en masse at the very onset, the value of SPACE exceeded all other values.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as they managed to get a little capital, which is to say money not needed day to day, they stuck it in this deeply improductive activity. not went to istanbul to buy cheap colorful crap to resell, not anything else.
mircea_popescu: this is to say, standard soviet matchbox dwelling, like berlin is still full of, came from the maker with a "balcony", which was open to the outside. they -- paid, scions of the decrepit metalworking industry, to solder/weld/glue to the balustrades ugly scrap metal pikes and pipes, and in between them put glass.
erlehmann: not in the mood for guessing history i'm not familiar with
mircea_popescu: this is not so, but let us not diverge any more. what did the old people do, as their principal neo-society endeavour ?
erlehmann: large scale deployments are always driven by statistics. i once read that many stats have no bike helmet laws because lawmakers are convinced this would reduce biking to the point where more cardiovascular diseases outrun benefits of less head injuries.
mircea_popescu: note helmet works -- before the fact. it's not fucking antibiotics.
erlehmann: process that produces them → people die from head injuries?
mircea_popescu: alright, now to the question.
erlehmann: sounds like what a qualified cognitive-behavioural therapist would say indeed!
mircea_popescu: yes. if you permit the woman to act out her "worry" about "What may happen" you will sink. if you beat her black and blue every time she worries -- about anything, you'll suddenly get great parties.
mircea_popescu: do guess, you i hear are from the right germany to guess./
mircea_popescu: erlehmann let me tell you a story. after the fall of the romanian socialist republic, people were left with no practically useful skills and no capital. a mad rush to accumulate both ensued, which was subsidiarily great because it put young people above old people and as a result produced the only sort of society worthj living in -- with anxiety way way underregulated. now then -- what did the old people do, as their principa
asciilifeform: there is no 'no, just'.
erlehmann: no, just the hex file format
asciilifeform: erlehmann: see the earlier thread /
mircea_popescu: erlehmann and yet, funnily, everyone comes to make war in europe. and yet, funnilky enough, the byzantine empire still prays to their legions in heaven, notwithstanding the reality daily debunk
mircea_popescu: war makes the only thing peace never can, that is -- empty space. the value of empty space varies, from negative after a war to infinite during socialism.
erlehmann: mircea_popescu it's only war in europe that is made less profitable. lots of wars to shop around for otherwhere.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann war IS more profitable than peace. whether you find this or not.
mircea_popescu: "make domestic arguments less profitable than watching tv". this isn't washing the dishes.
mircea_popescu: this is simply a restatement of the foregoing idiocy.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean, because eu bureaucrats tolerate greek, eu is going to shit. i mean -- because eu has absolutely no project (which is the direct equivalent) everyone is only there while the food flows. and furthermore, because the men tolerate the misbehaviours of the women, the countries are dropping off thje map, and so on.
mircea_popescu: and is going to shit. BECAUSE of it. not simply "in the time of it", but BECAUSE of it.
BingoBoingo: <erlehmann> i think it is not about the literature. i think it is to cater to the special interest groups. << Maybe these groups need specialler interests?
mircea_popescu: there shall be no equality, and there shall be no tolerance. black man either dresses like white man or picks cotton.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:51 erlehmann: can it be that your complaint is more with the egyptian glyphs than with unicode itself?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684303 << the complaint is about the concept of tolerance, equality and so on.
erlehmann: i think it is not about the literature. i think it is to cater to the special interest groups.
mircea_popescu: we are the never goes camp.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684298 << yes, this is how socialism always goes. not how "it" "usually" goes. when the socialists are involved -- always goes. when they are not -- never goes.
mircea_popescu: "oh but all teh great literature shall be lost" hurr durr. egyptian had just as great literature. JUST as great. its loss was thought important for centuries, before drunk soldiers broke the code and it was discovered -- egyptian literature is barely fit to grace toilet paper.
mircea_popescu: they're glacially going that way.
asciilifeform: choose-from-these-palace-approved-words.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:57 asciilifeform: if i start writing english as strings of 16-bit indices into the oxford dictionary, people will laugh.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing a sorting here. i am just proposing they notice the parts of their skull made of cow dung.
BingoBoingo: <erlehmann> asciilifeform ok enjoy your latin1 while it lasts. << 卍 We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children 卍
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but we DO know mine still permits the use of language.
asciilifeform: hey, mao did answer 'but your father swallowed french revolution, we dun know which is more lethally stupid yet'
mircea_popescu: coming to that minimal point of self-awareness any bimbo with half a peanut in her skull manages in fact to come to, where she realises it's not the fucking squiglies painted on her nails that make her unique.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684289 LEARNING A LANGUAGE. accepting that chinese is not a language ; accepting in order to accept that the simple annd obvious fact thjat your mother and father, if you're chinese, were FOR THAT REASON idiots and imbeciles ; and for the reason also that their parenjts in their turn -- idiots and imbeciles.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:40 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684006 << via this, found >> http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-10.0.05/unifont-10.0.05.bmp << which is lulzy, weep at the sheer bulk of the orc hieroglyph liquishit
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684252 << funny, i was expecting a few hours. apparently guessatron not that badly oiled either.
mircea_popescu: o things this way rather than that...
mircea_popescu: notice how this works : visa is sending "up to $10k in bitcoin" to its own bitcoin addresses to claim "people" have "invested" in whatever nutty bullshit faux coin they have going ; visa is sending "up to 10k" faux news on dead paper to its own offices to claim someone actually gives a shit what the new york times says on any topic ; visa is then giving 10k in cash to 50 of its own merchants to pretend like you and i should d
mircea_popescu: and yes, brougham is a monument of socialist retardation. devout abolitionist (which, incidentally, is coming together in my mind as the spot where western civilisation actually went off-course, early 1800s), argued with young re wave form of light, argued with some statistician re solar spots impact on wheat prices, tellingly thought everyone else unscientific and by comparison to his bright mind very stupid indeed and perp
mircea_popescu: not for a purpose but because it's there.
asciilifeform: it doesn't relieve of the burden of having to actually prove correctness tho.
asciilifeform: ( to the extent such a thing is to be demonstrated experimentally. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another fine experiment is to do 9000 mults of B-bit rngolade. demonstrates that the payload really has 0 impact on time.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the army, http://68.media.tumblr.com/900d9a19e3797d8e49d3cae388b0ce63/tumblr_o7m7l34i1B1vv8p8co1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: again, no argument. T needs to be measured, factorial is a fine case to measure it in, we don't resort to the lab when we wish to prove theory wrong but in all cases and at all times because we like the lab.
asciilifeform: sorta why the thing even exists.
asciilifeform: 1 ffa mult for B-bit regs take time T. 9000 of them take time 9000T. guaranteed.
asciilifeform: ( see further in same thread )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the difficulty is in predicting how long ops take on heathentron, not on ffa ( which is deadly linear for all ops )
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 12:45 asciilifeform: while we're on subj, ffa is more or less guaranteed to lose to just about any heathen bignumtron in factorial speed, and it should not be hard to see why.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684189 << tis nevertheless important to see how much.
asciilifeform: erlehmann: the 'ligature' liquishit had almost 600 motherfucking years, to get lost, now. since gutenberg.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> also you forgot, in the original, to divide the length of ffa by 64 (bits), yours will blow up instead of run, gcc by default does not give infinite stack << ah thanks for making the changes asciilifeform. bak now. will try this out...
erlehmann: and one introduced because unicode consortium was sick of other misbehaving standards bodies (ISO country codes), ha-ha!
phf: combining glyphs to make national flags is yes yet another extension
phf: fwiw unifont is not even the whole story. consider extensions like CTL, which allows you to have special rendering for a sequence of glyphs. a completely separate technology from ligatures and combining characters, but part of the standard never the less.
erlehmann: i suggest put the following in your .XCompose if you use X11
erlehmann: in standard german, ß / ẞ / ss / SS are not ambiguous, but in german variants that do not use ß / ẞ, the ss / SS could be a digraph depending on context.
erlehmann: ch does not exist as unicode ligature, but as i understand distinguishing characters is one of the problems unicode is at least intended to solve. as soon as everyone uses Æ for “ AE” the postprocessing is no longer needed.
jurov: there are plenty of articles "what programmers mush know about unicode" with such gotchaz. just educate yourself.
jurov: they will just expect it to work
erlehmann: well, if ch is one character, i rather have it as one codepoint.
jurov: unicode has zillions if these cases
erlehmann: jurov converting case is locale-specific, therefore better left undone.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 18:21 mircea_popescu: this notion that i will support the wintel FOR FREE is the lolz of all time.
jurov: "incorporating something in unicode does not increase processing complexity" orly? maybe unless you want to do anything interesting with the text, like... count the characters. or case convert. or detect whitespace. or compare two strings. or...
asciilifeform: from my cold dead hands, motherfuckers.
erlehmann: chinese, japanese, korean now share unihan, with all the processing complexity and technical debt incurred from that
asciilifeform: just like the poettershits convinced idiots that 16bit chars were 0cost
erlehmann: yes, but this cost has already been incurred. unicode actually tried to prevent too many new characters in the past, leading to misfeature han unification.
erlehmann: that turns out to be a problem with the abysmally bad TTF file format.
asciilifeform: so you now have either 24bit chars, or O(N) stringlen operator.
erlehmann: so if code does not care if there exist 250 or 2500 or 250000 characters, why should i?
asciilifeform: the mere possibility of 'new characters' is antisanity.
erlehmann: one point is that incorporating something in unicode does not increase processing complexity by any means. i actually installed a new version of unifont on an old phone and instantly it could display all the new characters.
asciilifeform: but for some reason will not laugh if chairman mao does the same thing.
asciilifeform: if i start writing english as strings of 16-bit indices into the oxford dictionary, people will laugh.
asciilifeform: though i definitely see the strength of his argument, that people who use more glyphs than there are keys on keyboard, have severe problem, and their place is by the cultural latrine, and not bloating the os for civilized folx
erlehmann: some writing systems contain non-abstract symbols. all the same to me, as long as everything fits in 16×16 bits.
erlehmann: can it be that your complaint is more with the egyptian glyphs than with unicode itself?
asciilifeform: it's a shambling horror, with empty desert, duplicated glyphs, no particular rhyme or reason, and all the consistency of microshit
asciilifeform: they wanna say 妓 -- let'em be stuck saying 32 bytes (16x16 bit matrix, more than enough for any hierohorror) rather than 2 bytes !!!
erlehmann: asciilifeform the sole purpose of unicode is to replace all other glyph standards. from that follows all else, i.e. incorporation of wingdings, emoji, etc.
asciilifeform: ( why was it necessary to unicodize the fucking hieroglyphs ? even supposing the chinese are inseparable from them. why not simply carry them as bitmap matrix.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684006 << via this, found >> http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-10.0.05/unifont-10.0.05.bmp << which is lulzy, weep at the sheer bulk of the orc hieroglyph liquishit
asciilifeform: ( where we do as i said, incrementing the T , using i for nothing but loop )
asciilifeform: also you forgot, in the original, to divide the length of ffa by 64 (bits), yours will blow up instead of run, gcc by default does not give infinite stack
asciilifeform: also you got a bunch of ??? in there (what does IO do ? )
asciilifeform: there's no type rape, because you don't use i for anything but to do the thing i times
mod6: i dunno, just the strict types thing.
asciilifeform: use a human integer as the counter
asciilifeform: why do you have a ffa-wide comparison in there.
asciilifeform: ( the increment is about 4ms each, so neglected )
asciilifeform: mod6: re upstack, http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StirlingsApproximation.html has the details.
asciilifeform: just determine the C, and multiply.
asciilifeform: you can immediately say how long the thing will take.
asciilifeform: mod6: other thing, since ffa is constant time, your N! is in O(N) (if mul were considered a constant op and brought outside of the brackets. which is is, 10! with 4096bit ffa, takes exactly C longer than 9! with 4096bit ffa. etc )
mod6: ok ima kill this off then throw in some 1mb FZ
asciilifeform: well, numerical fudge thereof
asciilifeform: mod6: think of ffa as a soldier's entrenching spade. you wouldn't dig a foundation for a new house with it. but it is bare naked simple, + adequate and entirely so for entrenching, and for the occasional bout of hand-to-hand.
mod6: 1.326 + log(65536)/2*log(2) + (log(65536)/log(2) - 1.443)*65536 << during this exercise, i started, very quickly to see this expansion pattern. was thinking there must be some square law to predict the probable size of the outcome.
asciilifeform: mod6: it won't affect whether it's still going, but whether you get anything resembling the correct answer on the way out
asciilifeform: well Mb rather.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 07:26 mircea_popescu: btw, does asciilifeform know about the right honorable the lord brougham and vaux pc qc frs ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: btw if you're actually doing something that doesn't need constanttime, you can simply put the obvious check-for-zero in the karatsuba and get 2-9000x boost for mul.
asciilifeform: ( it is possible also to get 3x speed boost , on machines with 3 or moar cpu cores, on top of all, by allowing tasking ; this adds 12 or so lines. but i'd rather not , it subtracts from msdosificatability )
asciilifeform: not built for speed. but for simplicity. the only concessions to optimization (karatsuba, etc) are strictly what was necessary to get to where rsa happens in merely annoying, rather than geological, time .
asciilifeform: ( in fact it will never win speedwise against ~anything at all. but factorial is probably the worst item. )
asciilifeform: while we're on subj, ffa is more or less guaranteed to lose to just about any heathen bignumtron in factorial speed, and it should not be hard to see why.
mod6: alright, i better catch some zzzs. i'll check in on the factorial here when I wake up.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile faux news outlets imagine they have over a dozen readers.
mircea_popescu: and in other "internet is for lulz", http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43617/43617-h/43617-h.htm was downloaded... 77 times.
mod6: this seems to be the analogue of the modern-day soccer-mom 3/4 boob selfie. in the text, she criticizes her friends for being "suburban" and "dowdyish"; but to me, she seems like one of the same.
mircea_popescu: ah, i meant the painting.
mod6: I liked your comments about byron. That was the first i've read of him.
mircea_popescu: so almost an hour, and then failed to return. alrighty.
mircea_popescu: btw, does asciilifeform know about the right honorable the lord brougham and vaux pc qc frs ?
mircea_popescu: amusing life slyce right here : user will read error message after the 4th pass and not before ; and will mess up the bot after 4 tries thence.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker
mod6: found a website that produces what seems to be the same 2193 digit value
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for the hex factorials.
BingoBoingo just wonders who had honor of destroying the phylactery
mircea_popescu: there's always going to be more zsa zsa gabors around than free drinks available.
BingoBoingo: The reality leaking in is that the most important man in her life is gone and the new most important man, lacks eldritch powers she is accustomed to. Whole new set of daddy issues in her fifth decade.
BingoBoingo: Nah, it's the alt-soros reality distortion field leaking onto her face. Also her face was leaking blood because likely cialis can only do so much for Morning Joe.
BingoBoingo: excess plant water drains through leak, nail to wall goes through other leak
mircea_popescu: there is a substantial difference between someone trying to build a house with a badly formulated pi, who ends up building a spiral instead of a tower and never thereby finishing ; and someone who in his house builds a clay pot with his own hands and no potter's wheel. so what if the pot will leak ? it can hold a potted plant or whatever, hang on a wall, participate in a domestic argument...
BingoBoingo: It's that thing everyone assumes Phuctor uses so Phuctor gets to collect all the PHP run time exploits thrown into not a PHP run time
BingoBoingo: See the green scam v. fire code http://qntra.net/2017/06/poor-brits-evacuated-from-their-warehousing-in-green-incinerators/
mircea_popescu: reality is self-healing, tjhat's why the pantsuits live on pizza and reddits.
erlehmann: so the cool guy must not have reached maximum snowflake level (where no one else could even think themselves snowflake)
mircea_popescu: no, the thing is the cool guy is dealing with a physical system. it has backblow, if you're too special you're not gonna be around anymore.
erlehmann: i must so the cool guy has not reached maximum snowflake
mircea_popescu: the guy is sorta pondering this away in his head, when suddenly they run into a green light and the driver breaks like all gedup.
mircea_popescu: so he asks, hey, aren't you supposed to stop on red ? and the driver replies that he's a cool guy, an' cool guys don't have to stop for shit.
mircea_popescu: guy asks hotel desk to call him a cab, which they do. he gets in and not long after discovers that the madcap driver is actually not accidentally blowing a red light, but systematically blowing each and every one of them.
mircea_popescu: you know the cool guy joke ?
erlehmann: mircea_popescu in the past i wondered how people who ask that question never consider someone else might think themselves such an exceptional snowflake.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann and you know what will happen -- two will call it at the same time. and you know what they'll do -- a Top.Window.Manager to handle the conflict. and so on.
erlehmann: i remember a post from “the old new thing” about “why can't we have a method to have our window on top of all others?”
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the point no systemd detractor ever made : that systemd is fundamentally and by itself an unstable arrangement, and it'll end up stuck systemding itself to death, very much like how the dnc keeps revolutionizing itself into irrelevancy.
mircea_popescu: the problem with the systemd approach to system design is that everything ends up wanting to be its own master-exceptional-class.
erlehmann: > One generic approach is to limit the privileges of font processing code in their respective environments, such as enforcing sandboxing of the FreeType library, or moving the font engine out of the kernel in Windows (which Microsoft has done starting with Windows 10). However, that is mostly beyond our reach.
erlehmann: (conceptually, at least. non-scalable 8x16 / 16x16 glyphs all the way down.)
mircea_popescu: in fact, ~every one i've seen played soccer on the monitors. except for the one that had VERY BAD porn. i mean terribly bad.
mircea_popescu: it's incomprehensible they even manage to have strip clubs here AT ALL. the girls are so utterly innocent of anything to do with either money or fucking that they might as well be the local highschool volley team.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : i took girl to strip joint crawl today. highlight of the night, this plastered drunk waitress / whore that wouldn't take 3k for a 2k tab. literally, she gave it back to me, evidently i made a mistake.
mircea_popescu: same place the fixed font thing came from we were lulzing at a few days ago
erlehmann: i might want to figure out the UTF-16 LE issue before that. of course, i can do my injection in UTF-16 LE, but i want to know where it comes from.
erlehmann: don't worry, i'll do the “if you use chrome, wine and gnome, visiting random websites might yield vbscript” writeup sometime soon. it's too hilarious.
mircea_popescu: seems wiring money to the same idiots that made it necessary for you to abandon country and fambly with their rampant idiocy might be a worse move than just pouring it into cement.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1683969 << but if this were actually true, why is the guy not in somalia then ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 00:18 trinque: erlehmann: the logs would benefit greatly from a proper writeup of these, so the next time someone goes "hurr durr $shitlang" the blog post can be linked
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 23:56 lobbes: This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer; they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683901 << i suspect the 40yo might have been actually getting more for his money.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683878 << there were those people doing "unboxing" of nuke silos iirc...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683859 << not only that. they also watch porn on their bigscreen and see the girls taking it in the ass so ass-ume the gf can do the same out of the box.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, prolly ought to assemble a variety for the artisic alien weapon expo
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683853 << there's all kinds of cool gliding seeds, including 3 axis rotational ones.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 23:56 lobbes: This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer; they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683901 << it is not clear to asciilifeform that the 'wire 50bux to somalia and it costs 70' people are any smarter than the lottery players.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 00:14 erlehmann: in other news, the base64 module in python3 will happily eat garbage and pretend it is filet mignon.
trinque: the IRC bot part does very little.
trinque: I admit I went as far into IRC as to make the thing stay connected, and otherwise didn't want IRC that far into my head
erlehmann: seems sane otherwise
phf: erlehmann: i think it's maybe your client that's misinterpreting the result
trinque: erlehmann: the logs would benefit greatly from a proper writeup of these, so the next time someone goes "hurr durr $shitlang" the blog post can be linked
erlehmann: only one of those inputs conforms to the expected grammar
erlehmann: in other news, the base64 module in python3 will happily eat garbage and pretend it is filet mignon.
erlehmann: the only thing that prevented me from immediately gaining execution is that the created script for some reason is UTF-16 LE – and of course my code-injection-via-filename is UTF-8.
erlehmann: i should probably do a writeup of the vbscript thing, it's too funny
erlehmann: but in gnome-exe-thumbnailer, the filename is inserted into ad-hoc vbscript that is then executed using wine. fun stuff!
erlehmann: in one, i found the exact same vulnerability
lobbes: This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer; they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country.
lobbes: On several occasions I witnessed same 40ish y/o dude cash his check (roughly $200), buy 10 $20 scratch tickets, scratch them on-the-spot, then 're-invest' any winnings until he reached $0.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 03:51 mod6: the worst part about the lotto tickets people, is they buy them, then more often than not (it seems like), insist on scratching them off right there and then.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682208 << when I was a teen-lobbes I worked the service desk at a grocery store. In addition to selling lotto/scratch tickets I also handed out (and, if requested, cashed) the paychex to fellow coworkers.
asciilifeform: d00d has a number of these films.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2011/marea-afacere-cu-tuns-iarba/#comment-56455 << Lawnmower blades usually come from factory painted dull for our safeocracy. Idea is paint wears down and deck gets disgusting which discourages curiosity by the time sharp edge is exposed.
whaack: for the well endowed victim
BingoBoingo: "E drept ca intr-o prima faza am lasat-o sa creasca in legea ei, mai ales pentru ca ocupantii anteriori fura cam nepriceputi la doxa, si taiara iarba dupa metoda de-i zice-n englezeste scalping (adica foarte jos si foarte scurt), pina mi-or umplut curtea de gauri." << This is very common mistake because idiots think "golf course and sports field are shot" and assume shorter is better. They fail to consider that there are different kinds
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> that's the problem with me, i'm seldom actually doing what i'm say i'm doing. << OMG spoiler alert!!! That's supposed to take time to figure out.
BingoBoingo: OMG, Reddit has a hard on for the Stasi's insistance Alphabay victim found by his captors hanged https://archive.is/UJETj
mod6: okiedokie, i get the same thing.
phf: just doing my part in making the logs inclusive AND gender neutral
asciilifeform had nfi it were there, waves to it
asciilifeform: hey they're (surprise..) people too, can in fact learn human languages
phf: "zanavesku is how you say curtain" is probably the correct method
phf: asciilifeform: i used to try and clarify the inflection, but then realized that it's mostly meaningless for the anglophones. so however much it grates,
mircea_popescu: for everyone else : занавеску (zanavesku) is how you say curtain ; but the esku final sounds exactly like the romanian name thing, pop-escu.
asciilifeform: so that'd be yer word then
phf: apparently the complete form is "davai zdreanta, desdemona! -- kakoy zdreanta, otela, blya??"
asciilifeform: wouldn't be the 1st time
mircea_popescu: well here's the beauty of it : this item does exist in russian, according to romanians.
mircea_popescu: aand in other wtf, i just ran into an unexpected wall.
trinque: it's the fuzz!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, folx pumping MBs of liquishit into snsa shop POST form
mircea_popescu: of course now i can't find the whole classification. do you recall where it sez there's two types, the type that prices her cunt to work and the type that prices it to not work ?
mircea_popescu: thius is the one yea.
asciilifeform: the one about 'beelzebub put them upon the green earth to work to death' or how it went
asciilifeform: or at least the last para
asciilifeform: iirc there was an english of this also
mircea_popescu: trinque young Martial walks into the office of the Odessan Poet Combine, explains to the man at the desk behind the typerwiter that he wants to be a poet. "are you sad, young man ?" "no." "then what do you want ?!"
trinque: andreicon: nothing sad about the towering achievements of better men, aside one's own narcissism
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 01:21 mircea_popescu: trinque "face up, make your stand, and realise you're living in the golden years". fucking said it outright, also.
andreicon: yea, and mihai the great was 9 when he first ruled
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683618 << 'at your age, sergei lazo was already circling around the locomotive!'
andreicon: but i'm not living with the impression that i know too much
trinque: the skeptical observers are good for your noggin.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 18:35 andreicon: and with the advent of technology, it's now easy to put x and y together and get something exciting
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683634 << the picture that invites itself is that 1890s drunken d00d putting the two wires together
andreicon: okay, "by hand" tells the whole story