ppsk: by the way, does "if you go on a bitcoin fork, irrespective of which scammer proposes it, you will lose your bitcoins" still apply?
ppsk: just wanted to say I've really enjoyed reading your blog, i can't remember how i first stumbled across it but its been one of the better collection of writings on the internet
mircea_popescu: and the reason we dun wanna tell you what to do is precisely that the identification of these things is only easy in retrospect, but hard in the moment, and there's no worse sadness than following the wrong goal for THIS kind of wrong reason -- that the wrong person told you the wrong things.
mircea_popescu: myeah. if you're born to be a hooker and the year is 1982, the vegas strip awaits. no ifs butts or taters. it dun matter if you dreamed of being a psychologist or a milliner as a little girl, either, that's what hobbies are for.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 20:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1639964 << one of the (~the~ ?) advantage of tmsr work for intelligent folk is that there isn't a braindamaged/choiceless manager in the loop going "i know it's stupid but it must be done".
mircea_popescu: and thjere's no "that's how i feel blue squares should look on the wall" defense. hence the popularity of the pleb misstatement of "art".
mircea_popescu: the goals are the goals, and retrospectively it becomes obvious if you found the goals or fumbled like idiot.
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same delusion of specialness, "oh, it is my option whether i join trilema and i can set my own goals". in your dreams, and there only.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun give a shit what they';re shooting for.
mircea_popescu: "holy shit they built ai capable of doing job of corps of competent agents"
asciilifeform: dun think they were shooting for one.
asciilifeform: ain't that rather like observing that the stasi never made a breakthrough in audio tape tech ?
mircea_popescu: in fact the utter technological failure of that "warehouse the size of ny" was a major inspiration for teh republic.
mircea_popescu laughed ass off @usg for the first time when saw that these days equiv of manhattan project, "general + all the zeks that can be found" came to ~same as romanian computer club windows reimplementation.
mircea_popescu: no you don't understand, they have an ad-hoc, informally specified, bug ridden reimplementation of microsoft access. XKEYSCORE!!!!
asciilifeform: but then, naturally, several flights down the human material quality latter , agents take smoke breaks still, but not to smoke tobacco, but pot, and not while tapping wires, but while writing code, tc
asciilifeform: of course happens. hence the push for 'tap all lines all the time, petabyte of liquishit lives in db warehouse the size of nyc' etc -- cheaper than trying to make a corps of agents who won't smoke break while tapping
trinque: hm, several minutes of lag from me to freenode atm. mitm dept didn't pay their aws bill?
mircea_popescu: it pays to be a miner these days.
whaack: yeah, suppose they held half the miners for 4 weeks, they'd then have to double their payout for the next cycle to match the btc mining offer since the difficulty will have halved (not even including the increase in the altcoin chain)
whaack: I just don't see how footnote 2 mentions the point of the btc difficulty decreasing while the miners are away from the main chain, even if it does allude to it by showing that holding the btc miner for an extended period of time doesn't help (b.c. of the fact that while the miners are away from the main chain their difficulty is decreasing)
mircea_popescu: whaack oh wait, you mean the diff on ~main~ chain gets reduced, because this is an early stage delusion and the fucktards numerous/heavy enough. yes, yes, you're exactly right!
mircea_popescu: aanyway. yes, it's a fine manner to repatriate actual wealth (ie, btc) from the fucktards who traded their wives/daughters for money they shouldn'tr have had in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin itself has a 400% baked in maximum increase each period, but what practical difference does it make ? Force the attacker to keep hashing for an extra 8 or so hours ? Big whoop, what's eight hours buy you ?
whaack: the point I was trying to make was that there's an additional motive not mentioned in http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ for the miners who "swoop in" in to return to to the main chain - namely while they were gone on the main chain the difficulty on the main chain gets reduced in addition to the difficulty on the altcoin being increased.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alrighty then.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but it's lulzy to watch the mutilation victims rave about their "victories" as the chainsaw revs for another pass.
mircea_popescu: whaack didja read the woes of altcoin thing ?
BingoBoingo: How do you know if they have BTC to prop up? Wouldn't be the first time the insolvent lied.
whaack: until whatever chest of btc they have is drained
whaack: well you don't get stuck without a block, but you get 2016 very quick blocks (that the turkey dollars club must have btc to prop up) and then 12h or w/e without a block
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ << whaack This becomes untenable for whoever is dumping turkey dollars into propping up BCH, exactly because of the altcoin woes
whaack: Seems like the miners have an additional incentive to go back to btc after driving up the bch difficulty, since in addition to the 4x bch difficulty the btc difficulty will have dipped (however slightly) due to their absence while mining bch.
BingoBoingo: lol, seems like someone doesn't know how the Altcoin problem works http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/#comment-108317
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://archive.is/948EL >> '...the government knew that the firms were on the edge of massive profitability and that they were in fact not insolvent. ...They did it to steal the profits from the company -- which means they stole the shareholder's property to fund other things - including Obamacare.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-23#1702512 << reads like the same ameritards as before, 'can haz reddit and paypal but kinder and gentler'
asciilifeform: this is the traditional bitcoin sync behaviour, and i have not altered it.
asciilifeform: and then never again! will passively sit and wait 'for rain to fall into mouth'
asciilifeform: the reason why mike_c's node appears 'stalled' is that it stopped fetching blocks. trb's block sync behaviour is unspeakably moronic, it will attempt 'long sync' ONCE, on warmup
asciilifeform: i.e. accepts connections, processes mempool tx ( which, if said tx relies on a yet-unseen block, WILL be rejected, and will look exactly like the snippet mike_c posted, and in fact most of the debug log of a syncing node WILL consist of these )
asciilifeform: then it is working normally,
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and in other open oven roasts, http://68.media.tumblr.com/137acf17a8143c7e01d8a2ea60b57184/tumblr_nyh0qhzBdx1u9uov7o1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: no, it was around ww2, they just stole all real estate.
ben_vulpes: you mean it wasn't all whining and pleases and you shoulds the first time through?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Whitey ate their houses
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: hey if everything can't be free, maybe we can guilt whitey into giving us their houses and inheritances
ben_vulpes: but the error i hit was 'pthread: command not found', which...wat
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Remember that when a leftist group gets COINTELPRO'd that it's because USG wants the shit they are selling
ben_vulpes: today's american political wtf: "John Brown, of an anti-Trump group calling itself the Redneck Revolt, wore military fatigues and had an AK-47 rifle strapped to his chest as he and a half dozen others from the group stood about 30 feet behind the barricade for protesters. He said they were there to protect Trump opponents and stand up to fascism."
mike_c: how the fuck is litecoin still a thing
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/20/bch-bcc-to-btc-brokerage/#footnote_0_19497 << updated max fee because today was a day of hard knock learnin', particularly around what btc actually goes for these days and how to dun read gud.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it was one of those "please to submit your version details" so... i did. can't recall if i actually clicked the "emergent consensus" button seriously or in jest, or if it was something that the hosts ticked, but it was definitely a test to see if they'd keep it up or not. looks like they have.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes evidently they're pissy about "he took our jerbs".
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: gems in the linked piece in re bulldozer on tracks
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is the contention union position is unreasonable ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 23:56 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and speaking of nodes and things, https://coin.dance/nodes << never saw this one before, pretty cool blurb there on trb.
asciilifeform: if speaking of cheap nodez, zoolag costs ~0 ( aside from disks ) , i get fiber to the grounds regardless
BingoBoingo: <whaack> so..does the USD monthly fee estimates imply it doesn't matter if you posses the metal? and if it doesn't matter, what are the hosting suggestions/guidelines? << A node is not a wallet, doesn't hurt to spread a few around.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world. << Negrodamus, i.e. 192.187.99.74 rents for less
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No idea what the concretes are beyond the admission that poverty is the condition of having a dysfunctional WoT
ben_vulpes: and totally aren't saboteurs either!
ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/oxRxc << ...unions refuse "to accept responsibility for service disruptions that negatively affect the customers when we have no input on operational changes."
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 23:56 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and speaking of nodes and things, https://coin.dance/nodes << never saw this one before, pretty cool blurb there on trb.
mircea_popescu: whaack dun imply anything, you can surely put together older gear in your den or w/e.
mircea_popescu: us army trying to "sort out america" would last sixteen hours. provided they start early in the morning.
mircea_popescu: lol @lafond "us military is called in to sort out what is left of america". here's the scoop : us military is <100k, most of which desk flyers, out of shape and combat-useless. ever since vietnam all the us army did was "consultancy", for locals willing to fight, where they could be found.
whaack: so..does the USD monthly fee estimates imply it doesn't matter if you posses the metal? and if it doesn't matter, what are the hosting suggestions/guidelines?
mircea_popescu: and in other nodes, http://68.media.tumblr.com/fc2a8f443424459184707f9472b0e450/tumblr_nwn691yqQs1ujj1izo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html : are we making it bad form for l1 to not have a node up ? or waiting till next year ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and speaking of nodes and things, https://coin.dance/nodes << never saw this one before, pretty cool blurb there on trb.
BingoBoingo: And then this discussion on the not quite backed up web in the comments http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8738&pr=1
BingoBoingo: A discovery on Infiltration from the department of web backups that are not https://archive.is/xbdld
BingoBoingo: ^ From the between Berlin and Moscow department of departments
mod6: Also all, I have updated the howto page to link the trusted-nodes page as well: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
mod6: Ok all: trinque, ben_vulpes, asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, mircea_popescu : I have updated the trusted-nodes page, please take a look and verify that the information for your nodes is correct, thank you! http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 since these are public and publicly known, how about adding an irc name next to the ip ? so i know who to talk to. << sure, working on the updates now...
asciilifeform: prolly needs at least another wk before backinbusiness
mircea_popescu: mod6 since these are public and publicly known, how about adding an irc name next to the ip ? so i know who to talk to.
trinque: so yeah, looks like there's one ahead yet
mircea_popescu: and apparently https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 is back too
mircea_popescu: ah the resyncing would do it yeah
mod6: Basically, operators are responsible for keeping the nodes going.
mod6: fwiw, I almost never connect to these myself.
mod6: Attention rest of the node operators: Can you vouch for your node being online? Ideally, it should have 95% or better uptime.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 22:43 mod6: <+asciilifeform> zoolag live as of now at ye olde 108.31.170.49 . << thanks for the update.
mod6: mircea_popescu: hey! cool. thanks for adding that in there. lemme look those IPs up quick.
mircea_popescu: mod6 done : http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-115.56-119.1 ; though the header could prolly go to "The Real Bitcoin public node list" or something.
mircea_popescu: o noes! she'll just find different sucker then!
BingoBoingo: Then she can pick cotton, weave tent
mircea_popescu: except of course wife wants house to lay eggs into because "all the other girls arew doing it"
BingoBoingo: <r0nin-> theres no such thing as an economy without credit << There is no obligation to take on credit, or keep "revolving" credit accounts
mircea_popescu: somehow the participants manage to insulate themselves from these obviously very toxic facts
mircea_popescu: which, amusingly, makes the jesus pantsuits ACTUALLY MORE PROGRESSIVE than the new yorker crowd.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, speaking of catholic latinas etc : the dispute between "progressives" and "christian fundamentalists" never ceases to amaze me. here you have two pantsuit groups which both agree with the fundamental pantsuit "every sperm is sacred". their disagreement is re when "every sperm is sacred" starts : the jesus pantsuit thinks it's at age -9 months ; the progre pantsuit thinks it's at - something, not quite 9 mon
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 18:53 mircea_popescu: you should see the latina chicks btw. they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here.
mircea_popescu: you should see the latina chicks btw. they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here.
mircea_popescu: rain. whole country runs as an advertising firm, "keep 'em talking about what color highschool uniforms should be, as long as they do they've already accepted they'll wear fucking pantsuits to school like retards".
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:04 spyked: loaded (because I don't use this day-to-day), I must consult these items in great detail. my guess here is that once I have spent all the time to learn, the "framework" becomes useless, because the mental framework is in place.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701966 << more importantly, and more subtly, it sells you on the notion that "dh is a prerequisite for handshakes", which happens to be false. for one thing, you can shake a friend's hand without the usg being involved. for another, gossipd does not use dh for handshake. in short, the usgtardian nonsense is always there to distract you while it implants simpler points deep into the reptile b
mircea_popescu: and in other life and times, i have a table out on a balcony overlooking the valley where i oft have breakfast. a week or so ago it gained a little wolf spider, he hunts on it. he's there every morning, and if i sit down to eat he leaves to hide in a crevice somewhere while the disturbance lasts.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 06:24 trinque: in other python 2 was already shit... all([]) -> True yet any([]) -> False
mircea_popescu: now consider the by now famous http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1583902 and understand that the negative case WILL get the brightest minds. not once or twice, it's perfecrtly capable of getting you again and again and this doesn'rt even speak to how smart you are. how inexperienced at best, in terms of "not yet wounded by practical experience enough to systematically reject the null case".
mircea_popescu: the items are DANGEROUS, specifically because they exploit a fundamental weakness of the human brain. they're like guns to dodos, unperceived, deadly.
mircea_popescu: the point re thompson's compiler is easily misunderstood, in the sense of being conceptualized too narrowly. that unwarranted narrowness then permits you to handwave his objection re null ciphers in the actual technical discussion ; but look how you fell for an obfuscated null cipher yourself right here!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:57 valentinbuza: probably. but i think that your argument is invalid because you say that "in TLS ingredients suck and recipe sucks" and "in Noise ingredients suck therefore the recipe also sucks"
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701949 << very much a standard in the proper sense. standard should specify what must be specified, and NOT specifiy what needn't be specified. which is why all tmsr standards, or at least the ones i wrote, have this very prominent characteristic. "do it whichever way you do it". connects straight up with ye olde specificity of diddling.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:40 valentinbuza: as you can see on the spec, it is not concerned with PKI or your authentication methods, it's up to you
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701941 << the dispute you ended up in is due to the fact that he recognizes a pattern you do not. whether you will come to recognize it in time or not is an open matter, and not required for the discussion. the point is, the way the empire resolves the problem of practical failure (tls is a piece of shit ; socialism is risible bullshit) is to take refuge in meta (here's a tls-framework! let'
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:34 valentinbuza: don't know. ask Trevor Perrin, maybe he thought of creating all the possible recipes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701928 << yes, yes, but ~why~ does he think in that manner ? and why isn't he here ? and how are these two failures of his related ?
mircea_popescu: some kids who couldn't get laid got together and created... a framework for... other people getting laid.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:31 valentinbuza: noise is a framework for creating protocols. you have the option to create NOISE_NULL_CIPHER_TOTAL_BS protocol which is totally different from NOISE_ANOTHER_SANE_CHOICE
mircea_popescu: the nominal money has nothing to do with this.
r0nin-: becuase as i said if you take 2 100 bills and put them in a shelf they dont produce children.
mircea_popescu: not in any economy. only in the cemetery economy.
r0nin-: the natural rate of interest in any economy is zero.
r0nin-: interest rates are a abstract they can be whatever
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking problem. the bezzle rate = difference between real and nominal growth.
r0nin-: there is no savings without spending.
mircea_popescu: summer ends, girls come back to school, some with tits. the ones without -- discover socialism. that first week in september.
mircea_popescu: socialism is 100% a 12yo girl noticing the other girl has tits and she doesn't. that's where socialism is born, in the 7th grade class.
r0nin-: no economy can keep up with the power of compounding
mircea_popescu: mno. socialism comes about as the young failure discovers other kids can in fact morph into adults.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- not all of them speak of it ; all hate it like you do.
asciilifeform: i wanna hear how 'natural' is to borrow from others for phree
mircea_popescu: that's why socialists hate interest so much : because it is the prick that deflates the nominalist balloons into the reality shapes subiacent.
mircea_popescu: and IT EXISTS so as to bring the names in coupling with reality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but in the country where "everyone agreed" not to save, then savings depressing rate is a myth. much like in class where "the class community" has agreed not to do any homework, the punishment for missing homework is a myth.
r0nin-: theres no such thing as an economy without credit
mircea_popescu: and keep doing this until the economy is too flush with savings to keep the rates high.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- farm doesn't HAVE to increase output. if the sconto rate is too high, i will simply sell an extra egg and invest.
r0nin-: its basic mathematics here
trinque: god if only the rentiers would give back our precious appstore wealth
mircea_popescu: in a dozen or so cycles, france goes from main country in the world to footnote in geographical area.
mircea_popescu: then guillotine brings in a new normal in terms of social proofs, which allows the cycle to start over.
mircea_popescu: living above means -> economic failure -> ra ra socialism -> guillotine. that's how the engine works.
r0nin-: if you have 100% private debt to gdp, and 3% interest, even if you economy expands at 3% all the gains go to interest
mircea_popescu: no, they ate their farms. exactly as how 1600s frenchmen ate their farms, became "french republic" because too poor to continue kingdom.
mircea_popescu: which is why they had the office of the censor, and which is why it was illegal for the womenz to wear expensive textiles, and so on.
mircea_popescu: that's 1800s. throughout, everywhere, including the self-same romans understand this.
mircea_popescu: and the undersranding of this being what it is, is universal. flaubert has piece explaining how dr bovary sucked at farming because he ate his farm.
mircea_popescu: understand something : a new chicken is born on a farm. this chicken grows into either capital good or else consumption. THE SAME chicken.
r0nin-: deflation kills off consumption so you get a situation where theres literally no market to sell your produce in
r0nin-: what happened was all the $ went into so few hands you had deflation everywhere
mircea_popescu: by eating the capital.
r0nin-: their farms got posted as collateral for high interest rates
mircea_popescu: no, i've got the facts and you've got teh mantras.
mircea_popescu: wealth concentrated in latifundias to protect itself from the inept mismanagement of soldiers who had become welfare cases over a century since marian's obamacare.
r0nin-: youve got it the opposite, overtime compounding outstrips the economies ability to generate surplus
r0nin-: soldiers lost all their farms due to compounding
mircea_popescu: capital failing situation is eg, enemy bombardment. then capital fails, then you protect labour.
r0nin-: yes compound interest once again overwhelmhed the economies ability to keep up
mircea_popescu: i don't care how. this isn't explainy hour. the cooperation of the fucker-upper is neither sought nor required.
r0nin-: mircea: why should everyone be impoverished so a few misers can stare at their shitty bonds?
r0nin-: government created trillions in new fiat to bail out financial sector and then they told everyone they have to accept 90% wage reductions
mircea_popescu: r0nin- ayup. and it is the correct move if you'ere not willing to actually beat the fuckers.
ben_vulpes: wasn't that the premise of 'austerity'?
mircea_popescu: wtf is this "We'll solve the problems for them". no, bitch. we think the unemployment among X group is too high, that group gets beaten until it fixes it!
mircea_popescu: tell them, too. it;'s either unemploymenty under 2% or beatings for a week straight each month.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "oh fuck, unemployment among < 25 yos is 50% ? hahaha! pick up all kids, beat them for a week solid, then see."
r0nin-: rome is worth it for them alone
mircea_popescu: and why should they! human rights! living wage! no rape!
mircea_popescu: or to anything, really. they'll reddit, that's about it.
mircea_popescu: tell you what though : in the 70s everyone was getting his hjookers in italy, from visconti to the swiss.
r0nin-: Rome is on the map becuase of caraceni
mircea_popescu: anyway, rome is not really on the map for the sartorial gentleman. and the only thing that puts italy on the map is marcha, go pick a few pairs of shoes.
mircea_popescu: oh, yeah, that suit's dead by now. but it served well in the heat.
r0nin-: linen is a 1 wear though before it needs a press from the wrinkles
r0nin-: Rome 3k euro for anyone that knows what they are doing
mircea_popescu: 4-5k for the tickets + 4-5k for the hotel + 4-5k for the whores + 4.5k for the suits = 20k and you've a bunch of stories to tell.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- not terrible. old jew, knows his trade. anyway fabric varies wildly, this was a light linen thing. they'll make it out of anything, including bring-your-own
mircea_popescu: i paid for the fabric when i ordered it.
r0nin-: how they doing that? fabric is like $100 a meter
mircea_popescu: the one i picked up when ben_vulpes was visiting set me back 10k.
r0nin-: whats a decent suit go for there anyway in argentina?
mircea_popescu: kinda the purpose of this.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:26 asciilifeform: valentinbuza: also recommend to read the mircea_popescu's intro, in the chan greetingline
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701918 << actually, either of you two could make a logotron. it's a fine learning exercise. make it in lisp ; make it in v ; use whatever you're trying to learn.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-17 20:30 asciilifeform: but in very other olds, apparently in an obscure article in '09 bernstein shows how to eliminate one of the middle-term additions of karatsuba .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unfortunately the 'mega productivity boost' dun work for maths. asciilifeform goes through many kg of laser print paper each mo.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:18 valentinbuza: "to improve their experience." leads to "Which top sites are users visiting?" :))
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701914 << lolz, "how about we put an alexa toolbar into the very browser ?!?!?! got knows we meanwhile managed to import all the other spamshits from the 90s!". https://verkoren.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/and-the-award-for-most-spam-toolbars-installed-in-your-ie-browser-goes-to.jpg
asciilifeform: must be for the 'i'ma boot up my aol station, check aol, and switch off 10 min later' people.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:16 asciilifeform: ( firefox is the one that has the added 'feature' of eating GBs of ram for no reason )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701913 <<< it's not just that. firefox rendering engine has been forever broken, since version 5 or so. i dunno what version they're at by now, 60 or 160 or w/e, but they never actyually got the manpower together to fix the problem. which problem is -- not memory stable!!! most gfx pages will eat up firefox memory at linear rate over time. which means that the browser will always crash, no m
mircea_popescu: otherwise, stays child / vaguely transitions into cvasi-girl over time.
mircea_popescu: man who uses computer to do work never fails to discover this. the only thing is that most children start their intellectual life using computers for entertainment (which is entirely natural) and the transition happens naturally only if child is exposed to environment that permits manhood.
mircea_popescu: and finally of course there's the important 3. pages that fail to work through this process are very rarely worth reading, you basically gain an entry filter more valuable than readily intuited.
mircea_popescu: 2. eye trying to orient in the "user friendly" graphical bloat is an incomprehensibly huge wastage of bioresources.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:54 mircea_popescu: hmm, not putting it in topic, putting it in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ once i get that thing online again.
mircea_popescu: it may seem offputting at first, "where's my rounded corners" reaction. then if you stick with it for a few weeks you might discover the IMMENSE productivity gains of text-only.
mircea_popescu: he'd go consult with mp with a list of questions, and MEMORIZE the fucking answers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the romanian canaris' lol
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:59 mircea_popescu: the point is not without merit, though. ~all the competent, at artisan level, males, the dudes working leather and metal and wood and whatnot ~competently~ are virtually all 50 yo doods with very much a slave mentality.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702083 << this is entirely true : carpenter is not free to ~negotiate with the task~, only with the wood. now for engineer, you also need a built-in ~master~ in yer head, aka ' царь в голове '. but at no point does unconstrained amoeba brain become a craftsman or engineer.
mircea_popescu: that was more the internal protection thing.
asciilifeform recalls the siguranța agent in ye olde #ba
mircea_popescu: it was decent and no more back when the principal target was the german kingdom. same exact evolution in tito's aglutination, actually.
mircea_popescu: but romania ended up with a competent secret service mostly through infiltrating kgb, not through competition with the deeply inept burgeoises.
mircea_popescu: it was a case of "the inept management died, and the bright kids republiced in their absence". blasted through everything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the actual reason, i am persuaded, is that the formerly VERY competitive, fragmented talent finally pooled starting mid 1989 and ending six months later.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the fear of one generation became the reality of the next. funny how it never worked that way re nuke ; but did work that way re craft.
asciilifeform: sorta the main diff b/w 'terrorist' cells org, and usg-style org, neh. the latter in fact has a 'crown jewels list-of-every' somewhere in it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701905 << the skinning of the cat costs in excess of the pelt. suffice it to say that there's a reason all 80s "Spy films" are about how "there's a list of EVERY AGENT and the soviets MIGHT get it" bla bla dramas.
mircea_popescu: the point is not without merit, though. ~all the competent, at artisan level, males, the dudes working leather and metal and wood and whatnot ~competently~ are virtually all 50 yo doods with very much a slave mentality.
mircea_popescu: well, the noobies, but briefly.
mircea_popescu: nobody's chained to the place!
mircea_popescu: she's a slavegirl here ; otherwise luvs torturing bois in her free time.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 14:35 asciilifeform: when saw that the ~original~ src was a pile of shithacks, lost interest in anything but the electron microscopy path ( like it or not, 1uM process folks were ~forced~ to make compact description )
asciilifeform: point remains, it is the Wrong Thing to use flippable registers to store bits that ain't EVER supposed to flip.
mircea_popescu: hmm, not putting it in topic, putting it in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ once i get that thing online again.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea at all ; was going to come up when we were finally making the tmsr hdd controllers. but even early dun hurt anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 14:20 mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701801 << Sounds like there should be a link to the trusted-nodes page in the HOWTO maybe. Also, a once per-month round-up of me asking for Node-Updates, if there are any.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701887 << actually ima put the link in topic. standby.
asciilifeform: cheap ( 'sandisk' and a few others ) actually become unreadable, the controller decides to shit itself when it can't find writable blocks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, which aspect makes them slightly better than spinsters, which actually become unreadable.