mircea_popescu: you may want to start it with detachdb and backup the chain now and again.
mod6: that's probably the simplest answer :[
mircea_popescu: aite well, if your setup's only coupla weeks old by very far the cheapest solution is to wipe and restart.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looks like the db is fucked huh
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding i had the honor of experiencing as much bitcoin node disk corruption as the next fellow, but never saw it beforeE.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i don't recall this wonder. << me either. looking...
hanbot: .lock's there with blkdat files etc, yeah.
GratefulSerf: I am really enjoying reading the logs
mircea_popescu: they really gotta start putting these schmucks in jail. were you "protesting" around a car and got run over ? 6 months till we get around to hearing your case.
BingoBoingo: Pantsuits must be desperate to get other case law
BingoBoingo figures there will be plenty of time to film watch when winter comes
BingoBoingo: Nah, it's on the list
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://trilema.com/2011/nu-mai-faceti-upgrade-la-nimic-niciodata/#comment-122744
asciilifeform: ( i.e. twatter et al no longer have any defense re ~failing~ to censor Officially hated-of-the-day $item, at any future point )
asciilifeform: incidentally, whatever happened to the 'common carrier' thing
asciilifeform: 'an upstart company — especially one that’s deliberately isolated and adversarial — would have trouble competing with providing the type of service that Cloudflare, or its similarly massive competitor like Akamai, can' lolx2
asciilifeform: 'Cloudflare — a web services company known for never banning anything — dropped the Daily Stormer in a fit of pique' << lol!!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile under the tree, http://68.media.tumblr.com/e69be6ae48b41f91b5e6d48136ef66fc/tumblr_nyo7bmYuDI1uco4pdo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, "those other people are isolated because our internet consists of google amazon and facebook and we don't look outside herpa derpa"
mircea_popescu: i predict it'll work just as well as all their other "no really it's the original" clones worked.
mircea_popescu: this IS the right internet. the pantsuit are more than welcome to build their alt-internetcoin.
asciilifeform: ^ the one that took laughing gas as oxidizer
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/e38Qx << what asciilifeform has ( iirc there was a thread about this item, but can't seem to find )
mircea_popescu: this thing, usually plugs into like a campging cooker for the gas.
asciilifeform: 'water torch' uses h2/o2. ( actually predates all other welding mixtures. )
mircea_popescu: there's also arc welders. pulse, 2-3 a sec, 2-3 amps or so
asciilifeform: ( exercise for the reader, how )
asciilifeform: incidentally there is a very spiffy tool ( that i dun currently have one of ) for such occasions, that runs on... distilled water and many many amps of dc
mircea_popescu: (before anyone tries the cutting weld torch on their wedding ring : the torch here discussed is a tiny thing, not-that._
asciilifeform: 'glue' is misnomer then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. well i guess maybe the "easy" sort.
mircea_popescu: there;s also special brazing flux. but i had a can
mircea_popescu: there's a special eutectic formulation of silver.
mircea_popescu: the myth of "you're a human being and therefore you can do anything human beings can do" strikes again.
mircea_popescu: obviously the chiseled bit and the forged bit were apart when i got 'em, and today finally got around to fixing the item. which, you imagine by now, first requires cleaning the surfaces from all the previous "fixer"'s efforts.
mircea_popescu: and in further tales from the orclands : place mp rented (furnished!) included something like a quarter ton worth of silver plate. because the woman likes it or something. among the vessels, this reasonably nice cup, with a lid. both the cup and the lid were chiseled into shape, but the lid had a forged pompom added on top, for ease of handling i guess or whatever.
mircea_popescu: nowadays they deasl in surefire bharara-izations, not in surefire governships.
mircea_popescu: anyway. compare to the 90s, arguably the pantsuit's only glory times. back then, das would have fought each other TO get this case. surefire governorship
asciilifeform: looks like they found one tho.
mircea_popescu: take the dnc. still looking for a chumpairman.
asciilifeform: to date they've always found a chump
mircea_popescu: so now the pantsuit agreements look like " it should be done -- but by someone else."
mircea_popescu: here's the thing with the monkey herds : they can all agree that "x is to be done" until blue in the face. the problem is that a specific X will have to do it. and the word is out whoever does it gets fucked in the ass, as per that ancient von flondor discussion.
mircea_popescu: otherwise reddington post fulla idea "men" in diaper suits.
asciilifeform: or, failing that, 'accident' the d00d in his cell.
mircea_popescu: so expect they.
mircea_popescu: terrible case from their pov, the redditards consider it a prerequisite victory and the evidence dun support
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my guess that the guy will walk is based on the knowledge that the da's have been struiggling to NOT take the case. ie, someone will have to, but i dun wanna be it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc the last major 'walked' was in fl. << Baltimore cops walked on the "not buckling up crack dealer in van" murder charge
asciilifeform: the lever they've been using since rodneyking(tm)(r) is 'he walks, we burn $100B of city'
mircea_popescu: that when they get one over they'd better fucking advertise it well. because it's the one they get.
mircea_popescu: to put it another way : pantsuit illegitimacy MEANS something. this is what it means.
asciilifeform: iirc the last major 'walked' was in fl.
mircea_popescu: buncha priviledged white sons raped the shit out of a random poor ho, walked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ain't that what the installation of 'magistrates' etc. freislers, is for
mircea_popescu: the whole "pantsuit worldview is supported by the courts" is borne out of review of pantsuit faux news sites ; not out of review of actual court cases.
asciilifeform: they'll nail him in a 'civil' 'wrongful death' or whatever nonsense. pantsuit gets infinite lawyering for $0; d00d -- prolly already penniless
asciilifeform: 'kick the dog till it bites'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, the videos showed a "sea of baseball bats" (other's words) around car
asciilifeform: which means if the driver had a kalash, he would have been theoretically in the clear, if he had used it, right through the window
BingoBoingo: "They encircled a passing motorist in his vehicle and attacked the 20 year old motorist, attempting to remove him from his car. This lead to the motorist's Dodge Challenger2 colliding with a collection of Antifa bodies in an apparent attempt to escape." >> http://qntra.net/2017/08/antifa-terrorists-and-pantsuit-local-government-shut-down-conservative-rally-fatalities-reported/
asciilifeform: ( subj being the pantsuit-crunchmobile of recent fame )
asciilifeform: meanwhile in monkeylandia, in charlottesville va : '...Police say the car was covered in dents prior and apparently hit by a bat'
asciilifeform: quite the goxlag
asciilifeform: and - while we're on subj -- the naive replacement, a ball-in-pipe tilt switch, is NOT suitable for rng -- contact bounce is patterned; and oxidized contacts -- semiconduct.
asciilifeform: phunphakt -- at one time usg considered these 'dual use item', on account of their popularity as carbomb trigger
asciilifeform: ( hg can semiconduct but not under the conditions contemplated here )
asciilifeform: the added noise immunity you get from the analogue business end ~not being a semiconductor~ is considerable.
asciilifeform: ( there are various types, but all ~same idea )
asciilifeform pictures the generals Electric, Motors, Dynamics, and Relativity, around a table
mircea_popescu: (we have this joke in household, "General X", all the various generals.)
mircea_popescu: there's not so much difference between google "ai" as seen here ; and lookup table mixups as seen with the original eggog.
asciilifeform: actually there's a whole subculture of '90s spectacular translator fails
mircea_popescu: hf our brother.
mircea_popescu: this is a pretty good companion for the eggog list.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Farewell HF our brother!
asciilifeform: the only thing this method has to recommend it, is that it is utterly insensitive to environmental conditions and to variations in components.
asciilifeform: gnd rather
asciilifeform: btw you can make this right now by attaching 2 hg tilt switches to a fg , 1 on each end ( b/w the middle and the +v pins )
mircea_popescu: the reason people don't fuck dog/rat is principally that woman cheaper.
asciilifeform: this approach actually extracts the very low bit rate of entropy available from the muscle of the meat.
asciilifeform: ( and with no other change )
mircea_popescu: this is the mic'd hooker all over again
asciilifeform: you work the device by simply passing it from hand to hand.
asciilifeform: in other quasi-noose, here's a simple electric rng suitable for very low bit-rate application ( e.g. walletrons for sig nonce ) : small mercury tilt switch, gates clock signal to counter, and a flipflop. when the latter toggles, the counter value is forwarded to a register; every 2 shots end up vonneumanned and xor'd into the output reg.
mircea_popescu: and, of course, "that coffee meme". not http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ but you know, "someone". because if the muppet herders don't mention mp to the muppets therefore mp won't be 1. muppet famous and 2. won't have the herders' ass.
mircea_popescu: and no, "take the money freom these 3 accts and send to these 8 acfcounts" IS NOT ONE TRANSACTION. it's like 11.
mircea_popescu: Going back to that coffee meme, the implied message is that 1MB is fine unless for everything else. You know substantial stuff like paying your mortgage, business deals, major capital expenditures, or paying a supplier for inventory. This just isn't the case though. Do you know anyone who pays for coffee with a bank wire? The FedWire service (run by US federal reserve) processes ~150 million bank wires annually. "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~equally often they find cigar box of au, weimar banknotes, etc drywalled in by ww2 j00z
mircea_popescu: they owned it quite well, if it's only re-owned now.
asciilifeform: lobbes: folx are TO THIS DAY finding jars of au left behind by romans who thought that they 'owned it'
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702835 << understand that the concept of 'mine' 100% depends on your ability to bolt 'yours' down, which may require you to expand your capacity to bolt! See also: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22it+works+if+you+work+it%22
mircea_popescu: aha. part of why the whole "bitcoin tx fee" argument was so thoroughly derrided.
asciilifeform: barbed wire, dogs, ilsa the she-wolf, etc.
asciilifeform: but also of cost of the cannons, cannoneers, shells...
asciilifeform: sorta how the cost of moving gold bars does not consist solely of the req'd joules to physically move'em through atmosphere
asciilifeform: btw i suspect that even nao, the txfee is a small piece of the actual cost of moving btc
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm rather looking forward to the 10k usd/btc doing 1 bitcent txfees and everyone from goldman sachs to goldman sachs salivating on the side.
mircea_popescu: nor the average wire.
asciilifeform: ( interestingly, the price hasn't changed in ~decade )
mircea_popescu: clearly the cheap alternative has to change!! god forbid people see the value of bitcoin to the point they're willing to pay more to use it than to use SWIFT!!! WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE BANKS!!!1
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, bitcoin tx costs 5 bux at the very most. wire costs 50 bux at a minimum, plus whatever bank tacks on to that.
mircea_popescu is now getting pissed off at conflicts long resolved through the beheading of the conflicterers. what a life.
asciilifeform: 'if not you, then who!' (tm)(r)(su)
mircea_popescu: back in the days of mpoe-pr, he was the single "competitor" so to speak, ie, person at the same level. "deathandtaxes".
mircea_popescu: actually i suppose the ur-example of "washed out of bitcoin" would be http://trilema.com/2015/gerald-davis-is-wrong-heres-why/
asciilifeform: in those days, asciilifeform naively -- and silently -- imagined that as soon as btc began to be worth palpable moneys, the 'big kidz' quietly hired d00dz with long, long beards, to write ada node
mircea_popescu: back then the standard for technical qualification was "hey, let's put 10 bytes of txid in one point of the log and 14 in another. FUCK YOU!"
mircea_popescu: and the list keeps going and going. gavin or mike hearn were (their moral turpitude aside), ~technically~ qualified to participate back in 2012.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sadly i wasn't alive for c1, missed out on the freakshow
mircea_popescu: and so it goes, the table stakes keep ratcheting up. "hey, i'm the coolest kid in my village!" is great for while we're still talking the village.
mircea_popescu: take who the fuck will you take, thickasthieves ? way ahead of the pack back when the pack consisted of "neobee will save bitcoin from ???".
shinohai: Oh dear Lord ... the one that puts Post-It notes outside the "Bitcoin Embassy" or what the fuck ever
mircea_popescu: come 2017 ... he's barely qualified to shrem. not even on the fucking list, art all. what 99% ?
mircea_popescu: take voorhees! in 2013 he was great -- not entirely retarded kid, some business experience (earned in daddy's shop, but then again, so did trump). way better than 99% of all those involved.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 04:00 mircea_popescu: otherwise what, we'll be stuck in 2020 dealing with legacy yahoos ? noty.
mircea_popescu: see, asciilifeform, if one wants examples re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699949 then half the people present at c1 are the finest of examples!
mircea_popescu: he's a typical schmuck, a la jwz. wants a comfortable existence and really, all these complicated shits scare him shitless.
mircea_popescu: i think it dates to the Surgeon General Warning's Verifiedaccount.
asciilifeform: 'science' in the 'stage magic for kidz' sense
mircea_popescu: you mean the pantsuit science czar ?
asciilifeform: ( the office, as such, dates to clinton reign )
asciilifeform: oh lol he's the current carlsagan .
mircea_popescu: aha! isn't it funny who's talking, and what they're talking about ?
asciilifeform: solar eclipses, meritwashing mediocrities with lookup tables ever since aztec priests 'helped' quetzalcoatl spit back out the sun he swallowed
mircea_popescu: (that's been the big pantsuit talking point, pushed for the past week or so by teh faux news orgs : that trump "fails to lead" and that therefore and thereby all sorts of others are "filling in the void". very much in the vein of alf's prediction)
mircea_popescu: you know, random fake media soap bubble fucking-loves-"leadership" in the pantsuit sense of teh term
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz from the swamp : "The divided United States of America will unite today, sharing a cosmic event predicted by the methods and tools of science." apud Neil deGRasse TysonVerified account.
mircea_popescu: it's altcoins all the way down to fed vault!
asciilifeform: last time i did this, it was moar sweat than worth ( they ban obvious lamermails )
mircea_popescu: why, they've no disposable emails where you live ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi re others
asciilifeform: and that's just the gox where you can get said info in advance of actually sinking in any shitcoinz
mircea_popescu: (of course, like darwinism, there's a large mass of religious "critics" of the notion)
mircea_popescu: this has been so amply proven by the crypto exercise as to compete with darwinism.
asciilifeform: goat will go to the soup pot still thinking of man as simply a vertical goat, 'and if the cards had fallen differently, it'd be him under the knife' etc
mircea_popescu: anyway. goat finds it very easy to not think about the gun in the drawer in the house it's not allowed to go into. and so comes to conclusion man is ~goat.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the difference between power rangers and "ethereum developers" is entirely nil, which is why the "ethereum community" is flattering itself into relevancy : they compare themselves to the power rangers, and come to the conclusion that "similar kind, dispute to be resolved by headcount".
asciilifeform: there's a few interesting divergences from the protocol as commonly understood, in the actual clients ( esp prb ). for instance the capacity to backtrack orphan chains longer than a dozen or so is ~untested for eons
mircea_popescu is not entirely convinced the ~implementation~ of segwit as executed by the power rangers will even work. because that's what they do, it woul;dn't be the first time. or the second. it'd be like the 5th time, which is how many soft forks they did.
mircea_popescu: if it's say 24 blocks, it's POSSIBLE someone undoes your tx, but not likely (needs 24 block lead to unroll the chain)
mircea_popescu: now at this time t3, you judge the quality of the input as always : block delta between t2 and t3.
asciilifeform: recall, 'anyonecanspend', so it got spent, possibly a block or however many in the past
mircea_popescu: um. how would trb see the tx anyway ? it dun interpret segwit
asciilifeform: ( gotta walk the tx upstream by hand and look for anyonecanspendolade )
asciilifeform: might be time to automate the detection of this item tho
mircea_popescu: people who write checks instead of paying cash don't automatically expect their mom note be accepted by merchants. why would these ?
mircea_popescu: and let power rangers add the warnings, "our altcoin isn't universally accepted, always make sure and ask"
asciilifeform: PeterL: the 'cryptography komyoonity' derps didn't do it 'because slow', but because entropy-poor machine
mircea_popescu: that's his point, if you have the rng it's much better quality secret primes for the same effort.
PeterL: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kY6bd/?raw=true << turns out it is about the same amount of time
PeterL: So I was thinking about how asciilifeform suggested generating new random numbers until you hit a prime instead of incrementing a single random number to find the next prime, and my initial guess would that generating new numbers would take a lot longer
runsegshet: Ledger uses a chrome extension for the wallet... which to me seems really sketchy
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 14:57 mircea_popescu: diana_coman yeah there's also no "catching up with the chain", one can turn eulora off for five years, turn it back on (maybe have to get a new client, till we freeze that down) and be ready to go. but then again the cost of having to check the blockchain isn't THAT terrible, we bring up back new nodes all the time.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702832 <- aha; trouble is that people are scared of the "cost" and like any scare it is way bigger than the actual real thing; as previously mentioned I really don't see this "I can hold bitcoin without knowing /getting dirty with it" thing
mircea_popescu: the one's we've seen weren't.
mircea_popescu has very little experience with macs. get phf or another ewxpert's opinion
mircea_popescu: linux isn't much better, practically. but there's a difference in kind, you could in principle have a secure linux machine, even if most people don't bother to. whereas the secure windows machine is a myth, like the happy feminist.
mircea_popescu: understand -- there is NO safe way to operate bitcoin in windows.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yeah there's also no "catching up with the chain", one can turn eulora off for five years, turn it back on (maybe have to get a new client, till we freeze that down) and be ready to go. but then again the cost of having to check the blockchain isn't THAT terrible, we bring up back new nodes all the time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not sure what's easier, eulora install or trb install. they're very similar processes for some reason (har har)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ain't putting it into production yet. just sits there on hdd, lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a draft design for the sticks already.
mircea_popescu: take the item this line is written on -- it doesn't fucking need dram. in fact, it could be a 386.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 14:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702770 << the only advantage eulora has is the low friction, there's no cost to transfer ecu from one player to another. it costs about 5 bux to move btc on the bitcoin chain. if your holdings are small enough, this matters.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702796 <- it's actually even download& run sort of thing and no online/keeping up to date requirement; one has to keep their key ofc, but that's about as low bar as it gets I think
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of "smart shit we don't bother to mention because everyone knows" sorta thing. this is also how/why the inept noobs that get silenced do : not worth talkingt to.
asciilifeform: ( why to do this ? just as in other cases of 'i can't believe it's not X!', dram is not actually random-access -- all currently sold drams only achieve their rated speed in 'burst mode'; and from that it follows that they are only ever read to fill a cache line; and from this, trivial timing leak etc. and the joys of 'rowhammer', bonus. )
runsegshet: thanks for the replies, will be interesting to see what happens next
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 13:38 diana_coman: well, some might of course, but it's again a matter of...hoping they will, sort of thign
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702786 << i entertain noobs/unknowns mostly because/when my answers to their questions are actually worth reading.
mircea_popescu: basically a very drastic reduction in quality of life, fit for a socialist empire. something on the level of "hey mr, you have this contract to have two cartons of milk delivered each mon, wed, fri and sun. how about we deliver JUST THE CARDBOARD, empty ? it will be 5% cheaper and you can have them every day instead!"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, hashes are by definition unreversable, and they no longer propagate transactions. so i wouldn't know your transaction from adams' or "your" pile of nonsense from another's.
mircea_popescu: this works in the sense that whoever has the hash AND the transaction that was hashed can prove that indeed that transaction was hashed (it's how http://deedbot.org/ works to notarize documents for instance).
mircea_popescu: their idea is to INSTEAD just store 16 bytes worth of that transaction's HASH.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702779 << core hasn't yet hardforked from trb. their "segwit" thing is a "soft fork". basically they intend to make everyone's transactions be blockchain messages instead of actual transactions.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702770 << the only advantage eulora has is the low friction, there's no cost to transfer ecu from one player to another. it costs about 5 bux to move btc on the bitcoin chain. if your holdings are small enough, this matters.
mircea_popescu: just don't accept "segwit" payments, and don't use their scamware, you'll be fine.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 12:42 runsegshet: miners going to spend to themselves and steal segshit coins?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702759 << eventually this will necessarily happen, yes. "segwit" transactions are stored on the bitcoin network as "anyone can spend", so eventually miners will unroll the segwit chain. how soon is not easily predicted (which is why the idea is stupid/usg-like, introduces impredictability in the currency)
diana_coman: well, some might of course, but it's again a matter of...hoping they will, sort of thign
diana_coman: and while you are still around: register a key here because otherwise nobody will spend more time with some random nick that can't be in any way assigned to any sort of "you" at all
diana_coman: runsegshet, read and ask more specific questions if any; in other words: learn; there's no way anybody else will simply do the work *for* you - if they do it, it will be for them and so you can at most...hope; poor path that one, even if very crowded indeed; if you want to hold bitcoins, you need to figure out the "technical" details too, no other way around it
runsegshet: thanks for all the insight
runsegshet: like the good old days
diana_coman: read the s.mg category on trilema re eulora
runsegshet: Thanks for the insight
diana_coman: but yes: you need to read and figure out whether it works for you or not, no escape there
diana_coman: how do you figure one is digital and the other one electronic? one is gold, the other one copper?
diana_coman: runsegshet, moreover, I suppose as an easy/quick solution you could even simply transfer your bitcoin into ECu in Eulora - I guess it is the lowest effort option to keep and even use btc at this moment; e.g. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Ecu
diana_coman: runsegshet, so learn; run your own node keeping your bitcoin; start perhaps from http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
runsegshet: miners going to spend to themselves and steal segshit coins?
diana_coman: runsegshet getting robbed is a personal thing so nobody can answer that for you other than yourself; as to hoping and the more general case: ditch hope, take action;
runsegshet: But it's still the real Bitcoin?
runsegshet: Thanks for the +up
ben_vulpes: "nobody could have predicted that the auto companies cannibalizing sales through financing and aggressive lease practices would blow depreciation rates sky high"
ben_vulpes: ("in other altcoins...")
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/23/the-fringe-edmonton-2017/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The Fringe Edmonton 2017
mircea_popescu: trinque practically the same thing!!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-23 17:50 trinque: hm, several minutes of lag from me to freenode atm. mitm dept didn't pay their aws bill?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-23#1702601 << turns out the soviet bureau of intertubes was laying me a fatter pipe.
mircea_popescu: you recall, you had to guess how the arrangement relates to a number
mircea_popescu: o btw asciilifeform any progress re the matchstick pattern game ?
mike_c: I ordered this shit from amazon before I orderd the goats. Goats arrived, still waiting for amazon package.
mike_c: asciilifeform - so.. is there some way to kick it besides restarting?
ben_vulpes: in other tmsr news: http://www.thoriumenergyworld.com/news/finally-worlds-first-tmsr-experiment-in-over-40-years-started
mircea_popescu: i expect just change the contents
mod6: so it's been suggested that we change 'trusted-nodes' to 'advertised republican nodes', which is fine with me. but the file that these live in is called 'trusted-nodes.html'. Since this is now linked in trilema 'how-to-participate', should we do a redirect to a new file, or just change the filename, or just change its contents?
asciilifeform: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ISSI/IS61WV51216BLL-10TLI << e.g. (and they block archive.is, who'dvethunkit )
asciilifeform: in other non-noose, 10ns ecc sram is ~15 usd / megabit today.
mircea_popescu: ie, why the fuck would you pay 3x what they pay to be part of their shithole medicare, when 100% of thew time you'll use the private hospitals.
mircea_popescu: as to the catch -- well for eg, they got obamacare here. if you're a resident you must enroll. and so on.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yeah, if you show them you own a 1mn bond paying 3% you're good.
mircea_popescu: me failing math. their cap is 86k/yr not 8600 as i thought, nm
asciilifeform: aah i was speaking of the prove-30k item
mircea_popescu: no catch. and that's the CAP.
asciilifeform: 30k << that sounds brainmeltingly cheap... what's the catch ?
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that the cap for public employees compensation is 4.2mn colones /month (about 10k/year)
whaack: ppsk from my research in the matter apparently CR has a 90 day rule for most gringos...wherein you just have to step out of the country (for an hour) every 90 days. so you can do a Panama or Nicaragua day trip and get your passport stamped and come right back. Apparently you can get banned from returning to CR for 1-2 years now if you leave having stayed more than 90 days.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the first time i was here, bout 15 years ago, i came in on a tourist visa (with the idea of staying for a coupla weeks), ended up staying three years.
ppsk: no, I'm rather new to all this
mircea_popescu: ah, people swear by costa rica. abundant, cheap hookers and nice weather.
ppsk: Ive seriously considered the universal plan for wealth, I was thinking central or south america is a good place to start over
ppsk: whats the best country in that region, in your experience
mircea_popescu: random scam designed to lighten the pockets of wediditreddit fucktards.
ppsk: it seems to be a significant point of contention in the realm of bitcoin
ppsk: I was surprised you hadn't written something regarding the whole bitcoin cash debacle