asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this latter type crews, e.g., usg's army, dies for http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1244654 motherland
mircea_popescu: the dood that thinks he can't hit a woman, for instance. and assorted other bars in his equivalent cock cage.
mircea_popescu: yes "country is 90% male singers", but this don't figure much into anything. there exists the direct equivalent of the northern pure cuck, as typified by say the charles wilson muppet above in the south : a brawny, silent, "strong" type, the competent 50 yo male slave of various trilema aparitions.
asciilifeform: there isn't a patriarchical sparta or whatever hidden somewhere in that box, no.
mircea_popescu: basically, it's southern queenie, aka dependopotamus, dedicated to sensual pursuits such as being fat and chugging coors vs the nothern jap, aka pantsuited hilarity, the fonda line, whatever, dedicated to intellectual pursuits such as being appreciated.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719603 << to briefly revisit, i am broadly unconvinced the nashville vs new york tin pan alley dispute is more than two flavours of matriarchy battling it out.
asciilifeform: dun think it is the same one.
midnightmagic: "goat". doh. Okay. I wonder if that's Chaang-Noi. What the heck is he doing with the SKS keyset..
asciilifeform: don't feed the birds.
asciilifeform: what the scammer specifically wants, is to put on you, somehow, the burden of searching for proof that he is a fraud. and when you fail to meet the arbitrary standard ( he will move it , as required ) , and you will, he ends up with free pr and 'legitimacy' etc
a111: 17 results for "teaching the controversy", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=teaching%20the%20controversy
asciilifeform: !#s teaching the controversy
a111: Logged on 2017-09-29 23:46 mircea_popescu: somehow, and i have yuet to pierce this mystery, people on the side of pantsuit always assume they own the world, natively. whereas people on the side of the republic, at least verbally, always assume the opposite, and start derping about how i've to prove shit and so on.
trinque: maybe you end up burning some fuel and shaving a few years off your orbit of the republic. who knows
trinque: midnightmagic: when you gather all this proof and various washington posts are still running articles about hoaxatoshi (or the next), might ask yourself why.
asciilifeform: midnightmagic: i do indeed have a 5G dump, mailed in by somebody with handle of 'goat', on oct 20 2013. it was among the first items fed into phuctor.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: The earlier dataset would just be evidence I didn't randomly edit mine, and thus prove that buddy probably didn't upload his key into the SKS set before that date. (Since SKS key server ops won't delete keys.)
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: I was hoping you would just tell me where you got the earlier dataset, so I can also go there.
midnightmagic: Data which comes directly from me could just be edited. There is less chance that I am also an MIT sysop or whatever.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Correct. However, if the data comes from, e.g. MIT server hosting, or if it comes from one of the SKS key server operators, then that's enough. I can point at that and say "look, more data that says the same thing."
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 15:39 mircea_popescu: "option for the poor", dontchaknow, first and foremost the option to pretend that they're not poor because they suck ; that the reason kid now needs to beg for college moneys ISN'T that his mother failed at her fucking job, that had she been a non-suck wife she wouldn't have the fucking problem in the first place and so on.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720258 << whole ameri-edifice, from alimony to divorcetheft to childsupportism to harassmentism etc -- is specifically about handing out to the wives 'the freedom' to pantsuit. 'giving the wolf a spear' or what was the expression on mircea_popescu's planet.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-28 02:09 asciilifeform: the book is quite like the 'rule of law is a myth' piece (http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm - linked here a few times) except that katz hasn't let go of his religion yet
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 15:35 mircea_popescu: lishing those interests. In other words, courts ask whether the statute does what it was written to do."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720255 << lol!! 'dun ask whether this is a crock of shit, You Will Have Problems, instead ask whether fuhrer's decrees are being correctly carried out' >> and see also oblig. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-28#812963 .
asciilifeform: there is no such thing as an opposable nonexistence proof for a bitstring
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 15:11 midnightmagic: You'd told me after I uploaded the 4GB to you that you had an even earlier copy--and that's what I'm looking for. The phuctor dataset was something I saw you post a link to in the archive which Mircea kindly(?) suggested I look more closely at.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-29 20:08 asciilifeform: in other idiocies, https://archive.is/zI6Xm >> '... mysterious attacks that left diplomats with hearing damage and brain injuries, the State Department announced...' << somebody lock'em up in schizo ward, like they do to their victims back home, per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548698
shinohai: "The US has expelled 15 Cuban diplomats, saying Havana failed to protect US diplomats from mysterious acoustic attacks." <<< moar Cuban/US lulz
mircea_popescu: lettuce externalize all the costs into a large ball and gift it to jesus! that's why we created jesus for in the first place innit!
mircea_popescu: "option for the poor", dontchaknow, first and foremost the option to pretend that they're not poor because they suck ; that the reason kid now needs to beg for college moneys ISN'T that his mother failed at her fucking job, that had she been a non-suck wife she wouldn't have the fucking problem in the first place and so on.
mircea_popescu: let aside that property is the first, and only right that matters, for as long as i have property i will bring back all the other crap as needed ; whereas without property all the rest is entirely not worth the mention and we can really start calling each other tavarisch, there being no further need of any pretense in the vein of courts, or for that matter any other rationalisms.
mircea_popescu: the important point here, as far as the latin-american "liberation theology" marxist reinterpretation, as typified in the latest (and first jesuit) pope is concerned is : that property is not a right.
mircea_popescu: lishing those interests. In other words, courts ask whether the statute does what it was written to do."
mircea_popescu: flecting people's marital status and assets. Consequently, courts only need to use rational basis review. Rational basis review, the most deferential review of legislative action, requires two steps. First, courts must determine whether these statutes attempt to promote any legitimate state interest or public value. If so, courts must determine whether the statuttes and classifications created are rationally related to accomp
mircea_popescu: and to continue the lulz : "Equal protection challenges require a review of the statute allowing court-ordered support [for adult children of a failed marriage]. Neither strict scrutiny nor heightened scrutiny are required as these statutes do not create classes of people based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin or involve a fundamental right. These statutes create, instead, social and economic classifications, re
midnightmagic: So. I guess.. surprise! Phuctor is also useful for other things!
midnightmagic: In particular, I know that if I send people here to find old data, you people will tear them a new butthole, and so I hope to punish the disbelievers.
midnightmagic: You'd told me after I uploaded the 4GB to you that you had an even earlier copy--and that's what I'm looking for. The phuctor dataset was something I saw you post a link to in the archive which Mircea kindly(?) suggested I look more closely at.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Good god, no. Not interested in embrace&extinguish. I've managed to capture the attention of Chief Lying Scumbag himself Craig Wright, and a secondary source of historical SKS would mean that I'm probably not lying when I tell people that fake-Satoshi's fake-keys *weren't* in the dataset as of February 2012.
asciilifeform: 'At The Meyers Law Group, P.C., we are pleased that we were able to help this college student and her mother get the support they deserved. ' << this paragraph verily smells of zyklon, lol
mircea_popescu: you know, this is the ONLY fucking benefit of living where you do. that you can put up a craigslist ad or whatever, "willing to feed and house paralegal, you will have to have nice tits and love the cock." and be swamped with takers.
asciilifeform: i have a paralegal in the sense that she has an arc welder operator
mircea_popescu: yes, adult male should have at least one paralegal living on the premises, what.
mircea_popescu: anyway. you can end up in jail for not paying the court-ordered kid's college, no question there.
asciilifeform: sorta like the diff b/w arrest by local cops and, e.g. fbi rendition
mircea_popescu: i suspect this difference is made of the same substance as your knowledge of the matter prior.
asciilifeform: they are not separate from mircea_popescu's dirigible, but to the folx on the ground are very different items, with different types of spiked ends on the whips
mircea_popescu: i don't know the difference is factual, tbh.
asciilifeform: but was this done using the childsupport bureaucracy apparatus, or the divorcetheft apparatus, is my q
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't get to move the goal posts. fact is, us courts have, throughout and since 1979, ordered divorced parents to pay for the rejected bitch's spawn to go to college as adults.
asciilifeform: is there a record of, say, 30 y.o. 'eternal student' being 'childsupported' ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.bestnewyorkdivorce.com/Long-Island-Divorce-Blog/2014/April/Father-Ordered-by-Court-to-Help-Pay-Childs-Colle.aspx any better ?
asciilifeform: it's a state apparatus, btw, rather than federal, and maintains a pretense of 'voluntary' ( i.e. d00d gotta manually sign cheques, and jailed if he 'forgets', rather than wage & property confiscation as seen in tax collection )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 17:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
phf: asciilifeform: there are definitely variations on college support
mircea_popescu: in the sense court will order you to support college kid.
mircea_popescu: quoted for being anodyne part of the trend, not some sort of solitary prophet.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 12:35 mircea_popescu: and in other ancient lulz, http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2058&context=bclr
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720096 << brain-melter. but picture, if d00d had gotten his way, the collegism cost death rocket could have fired 30 yrs ago , instead of delaying the inevitable 'tothemoon'
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 12:40 midnightmagic: Hrm. I missed my chance to download the phuctor db snapshot.
asciilifeform: !~later tell midnightmagic http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720099 << if you want to read, e.g., the phuctored page, i refreshed it on archive.is a few days ago. but if what you're aiming for is to embrace&extinguish phuctor itself, you're on yer own
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 12:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720072 << heh, the next day after http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719442 huh ? tell you what, wait until it's back on, then ignore the matter for a few years, then when it next is down or anything come back and ask that.
mircea_popescu: of course, then it was a cross. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: phf but leaving aside that the inquisition was invented in the first place to stamp out pantsuitism manifested as catharism from teh south of france (which it did do) : are you aware the first yellow star as a sartorial accessory was also introduced then ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 11:45 midnightmagic: Uh. asciilifeform? Can I ask you where you managed to dig up those old SKS keysets which predate the one I shared with you?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720071 << some d00d sent'em in, oughta be in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: anyway, the moment is very much a french equiv of the us civil war. the north still won, same north, same terms.
phf: such us the tmsr darlings, knights templar
mircea_popescu: nah. carcassone was literally an impregnable fortress for the time. were it defended, even middlingly, it would never have fallen.
phf: i sort of assumed from the paintings and the existence of such thing as thieves' cant, but at some point it was sort of like a mix between monthy python's holy grail and the life of brian. i.e. dirt digging communes, living somewhere on the periphery, espousing any kind of random interpretation of gospel. "christ the table throwers of the third denomination"
mircea_popescu: ^ early noether, by any account.
mircea_popescu: and, then as now, actually competent women didn't think much of the whole crap sandwich.
mircea_popescu: well, the fact that there existed a 12th century animalrights, gender-fluid community of idiots who failed miserably in the field excuses you from such a pinpoint.
phf: right, inquisition is then 12th century, and crusades are over by 15th, reformation is 16th
mircea_popescu: anyway. 1100 century vegans, they existed.
mircea_popescu: to this very day teh episode does truly bother the pantsuit press. because here's the thing : whether alt-right knows or doesn't know there's such a thing as jesuit, the thing they know or don't know still is, and still works.
mircea_popescu: look into how well the impregnable fortress was defended by those ninnies, and see in them the "hell no, we won't go" vietnam victrices.
mircea_popescu: the 14th century pantsuitization of the church resulted from the 14th century burning at the stake of the pantsuit enclave of toulouse.
mircea_popescu: and what is your explanation of the cathars ?
phf: right, i have similar impression, i thought there might be an event associated with it. i'd stick to the umberto ecco's idea that the transition happened sometime in the 14th century as a result of pantsuitization of catholic church
mircea_popescu: anyway, the important point here being that the "progress" is actually a withdrawal ; from alhpabet to hieroglyphics, from christos to jesus, everywhere the sweet scent of senescent decay.
mircea_popescu: none of this, obviously, having to do with divinity in the slightest ; we're here discussing religion not theology.
mircea_popescu: phf there's two fundamental roles for divinity in the life of man (unlike the matters discussed re resplenduminous, which are quite apart a third) : it's either momgod, give me a thing ; or else dadgod make me enjoy the thing i got.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking ploy with the new testament is not simply http://trilema.com/2017/why-god-has-died/#selection-111.0-129.119 but actually turning the heavenly father into the heavenly mother ; hence all the inept bs starting with all the mary worship in the loser south.
phf: i'm not sure, but not in the way that phrase is cliche in english. god loves you, christ acts from inner great love. i'm not sure christ loves ~you~ as such
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what you mean by western conception of jesus (i'm vague on when the split happened, but yeah christos in slav countries and presumably in greek tradition has retained his "vsederzhitel" title, not so much in the west, but i can't imagine that the split happened in the 6th-8th century)
mircea_popescu: and in more domestic tranquility : a girl made bolognese, with fusili ; i made spicy paprika chicken, with penne rigate. there's now available A SELECTION of pasta leftovers for breakfast!
mircea_popescu: (the link, for the curious, is that in any other time than the present the above charles f. wilson would have been counted as a jesuit. both his stepping-stone and ultimate destination 2nd education institutions being -- jesuit.)
mircea_popescu: even exists in early anglo stuff, christ resurrector, christ almighty etc. though the vein exhausted itself readily and apparently without leaving much trace. i guess in the same way "everyone" knows of bedwetter's 1984 but nobody read point counterpoint, notwithstanding that huxley is the important kid in that class, not fucking blair.
mircea_popescu: (note that the above deals with jesus, as the western conception, not with the thing thereby named altogether. christos, as ~same thing understood in the east, be it the greek pantokrator, the russian voskresie i guess, or various others is not nearly as problematic)
mircea_popescu: in other words, i dun think "obscure" is the problem. i think "not wanting to take a look inside" is the problem.
mircea_popescu: it happens to also be the single most important thread connecting the self-same "alt right" with faith altogether, so this is problematic.
mircea_popescu: phf but to be honest, i suspect the actual reason is that this'd be a first step on the road to indicting jesus. which is apt, jesus being the best first-line heuristic for idiocy you'll ever encounter.
mircea_popescu: what, just because that happened 3 and 400 years ago as opposed to 1900s ? what is this, the simple, child-like behaviour of the new world demographic ?
mircea_popescu: jesuits were shoah'd in venice once, 1600s, and THEN in france, portugal, the two sicilies etc in 1700s. this is moar than one piddly german interdict
mircea_popescu: except it's better substantiated in fact than the jew thing.
phf: too obscure, though that would be an amusing thing to do. jesuit "protocols" on twitter, quotes and condemnations. it would be closer to an art project, than anything. "the who?"
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing amusings -- i wonder why exactly hasn't the "alt right" picked up on JESUIT heritage to bitch and whine about ? it's just about the core of modern pantsuitism, it was historically oppressed specifically for pantsuitism, and when i say historically i mean centuries not decades, why exactly nobody knows enough to say "the jesuits will not replace us" ?
mircea_popescu: (ie, exactly the monetary process described in http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ except applied to labour rather than capital)
mircea_popescu: this is how the ourdemocracy "pluralism" ratchet works : if everyone is nominally equal, and if nobody should face the music of his own ineptitude, then you can cycle these spawn-and-consolidate cycles until everything is pure shit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the above line re "consolidated into" is there to explain how exactly $item became shit : at time t0, there existed $item, and it was respectable. at time t1, misguided "pluralism" allowed a bunch of rank imbeciles, such as here typified by charles f wilson, to open $rakim-and-his-black-chix-code, $faggots-fashion-law-review etcetera. then at time t2, the foregoing useless items "got consolidated" into $item. the
phf: i might run into him in the street! i have friends in hartford and throughout CT (though i mostly visit those on the coast)
phf: this is a discouraging entomology, since i just came back to washington d.c. so now i have to interact with willsons and their brood yet again. (not directly, but i get to see them on the street)
mircea_popescu: "In Spring 2017, the Boston College Environmental Affairs Law Review, Boston College International and Comparative Law Review, and the Journal of Law and Social Justice published their last issues and consolidated into the Boston College Law Review." for extra bonus points.
mircea_popescu: (one helluva braindamaged "case" that was, too. worth reading for the curious, they got thrown out at every level, then held up supreme court to educate them in basic law.)
mircea_popescu: so : bc law thinks having argued before the supreme court!!!! on the wrong side of a case that got adjudicated the other way 8-0 is something to put in its bio as the #1 item.
mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone remember the brouhaha of "fair" (ie, some faggots-on-campus pac) vs rumsfeld case ? (govt wanted to cut funding for colleges that didn't allow army recruiters on campus, solomon amendment ; they didn't want to allow recruiters on campus because they judged don't ask don't tell DISCRIMINATORY!!!11)
mircea_popescu: phf dood's bio : 1993-1994 greater boston food bank volunteer (ie, ASSISTANT volunteer MANAGER!!!), then 1998-2002 testa hurwitz & thibeault. boston college law school (ie, shit) 94-97. "saint joseph university" (ie, shit), ba politics 89-93.
phf: i tried !from:foo syntax, but until there's a proper search query grammar i think i'll stick to an explicit looking keyword, as originally suggested
phf: oh the combination has been working for a while, that example with hurr durr had ascii hidden somewhere there
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy throughout. "we were old enough to fight in vietnam, but not old enough to vote, which is lulzy, notwithstranding we whined a lot more than we fought, AND ALSO LOST THAT WAR THOUGH BEING SAD FAILURES!!! ; then the vote thing was fixed, but it was fixed in the wrong way -- by lowering emancipation age it meant daddy no longer has to pay! UNFAIR!"
phf: i didn't realize it was written by a guy. i've not encountered that whole cuck behavior until i came to u.s. i suppose i remember men like that growing up, but they were explicitly recognized and condemned
mircea_popescu is pretty well satisfied ~only reason charles f. wilson put that out there is the hope that some "divorcee" somewhere will "let him help".
mircea_popescu: cucks trying to signal to milfs that they're available, basically. naive colonies sufficiently unsophisticated to allow this shameful display.
phf: i suppose the usual suspects were making inroads, perhaps in 20 years it will not be obvious why high pitched sjw is a "google" concern
mircea_popescu: 90s a lot dumber than originally thought, in the us.
mircea_popescu: i find it interesting that anyone thought that'd make sense as an opener. for the READERS OF LAW REVIEW no less.
midnightmagic: Hrm. I missed my chance to download the phuctor db snapshot.
mircea_popescu: not sure what's lulzier, the failed-female whining or the concerned-bystander "is college bezzle getting all it could get ???".
mircea_popescu: and in other ancient lulz, http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2058&context=bclr
midnightmagic: macchiato guy myself, for the coffees that are worthy enough to be drunk so.
mircea_popescu: i'm not much of a coffee drinker, in general. but when i live here i take a few months to turn into utter fiend. then if i move away it goes away.
mircea_popescu: shinohai move to costa rica, have the problem of omfg i can't keep drining so much coffee... but it's so good...
midnightmagic: The page with the RIP dulap doesn't have the raid failure mention on it. I can't read *that* fast dude.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that's EXACTLY the fucking problem. modern man has total disconnect between symbols dancing in front of eyes and anything to do with action.
midnightmagic: lol I swear I was reading them almost that whole time man... oh. Gad dangit.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 03:42 mircea_popescu: in other lulz asciilifeform : phuctor server raid array failing, when'd you like the item restarted ?
mircea_popescu: it's all in the logs you know. see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714183 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714212 and so on.
midnightmagic: .. hard drives were seized? What's dulap? Is that the name of the server you guys were using for the phuctor project?
mircea_popescu: it's the only way!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720072 << heh, the next day after http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719442 huh ? tell you what, wait until it's back on, then ignore the matter for a few years, then when it next is down or anything come back and ask that.
midnightmagic: Uh. asciilifeform? Can I ask you where you managed to dig up those old SKS keysets which predate the one I shared with you?
mircea_popescu: i hope you're corking champagne over there.
mircea_popescu: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/19/business/an-ad-gasp-in-cyberspace.html from back in the day it didn't know it's dead yet.
mircea_popescu: Americans to enter a very low-odds US-work-permit raffle. Jeff Wheelhouse, sysadmin for Internet Direct, was soon bombed into oblivion by world-wide complaints. He told the New York Times this caused Internet Direct computers to crash at least 15 times -- "that's when we stopped counting." Canter soon appeared on CNN's Sonya Live. Interestingly, spam was viewed as an innovation by Sonya, who hailed Canter as a Business Pionee
mircea_popescu: "The term "spam" came into broad use shortly after a famous incident on 12 April 1994. Canter and Siegel unleashed the first mega-spam against Usenet. (Cantor had done local, mini-spams before; he was now going international.) Canter spammed almost 6,000 groups in less than 90 minutes through an Internet Direct account (an Arizona Internet provider). The post was a C&S ad for the U.S. "Green Card lottery" -- a chance for non-
mircea_popescu: & hard to reach to be in management. Also, their support offerings are so complex theyre afraid of a great deal of misinterpretation if they write them down."
mircea_popescu: pretty entertaining shit, too. "Just spent an hour+ listening to @NETGEAR ProSafe support condescendingly claim a feature w/ an entire chapter in the manual doesn't exist. Finally made them download manual off their own site. "Huh. We'll try to get somebody who's heard of this to call you back
eventually." or, "Just had @MariaDB decline to give me a quote for @nfsn. They dont deal with staff & say Im too busy
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is, for the time being, nodeless.
mod6: Okay, update me when either or both are back in action.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:30 mod6: trinque: do i need to change the one listed here then? http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719958 << plox to remove the deceased dulap, 46.166.165.30 . and also note that 108.31.170.49 ( zoolag ) is at 382k and will remain useless as a public node for some weeks.
mircea_popescu: but yes, in principle a chumpatron op shouldn't be losing money, seeing how they translate into reality an ideal good : the disenfranchising of idiots.
asciilifeform: ain't as if the chumpatron ops are losing own money
mircea_popescu: and yeah, totally, i'm sure they're happy. an sept 2 investment in bch would have brought... o look, under 0.095 now!... what is this, 60% loss ?
asciilifeform: was this in the log?
mircea_popescu: there's a 2012 and a 2013 installment.
asciilifeform: where was the 'talk to me' piece
mircea_popescu: recall that other turdhead, what was his name, "oh i r big deal, who are you" in 2012 or when was it, then in 2014 "oh, please talk to me ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, having read this thing you linked i actually come to like the guy, whoever he is. why the fuck isn't he in the wot ? dja have a contact ?
mircea_popescu: not as they actually came.
asciilifeform: ( back when it has 'business model' other than simple 'tbtf' usgonics )
asciilifeform: lol aolism then
mircea_popescu: what are you, like from the future ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfi but ain't it an emailtron, can't other types speak with it..?
asciilifeform: and pama suxx, though i've only set foot into/out of plane there, it has humidity like dc, and presumably year round
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << lol didja also neglect the scorpion pit and the nuke waste drums ?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719945 << felt a lot more like I was *in* the nuke waste drum! panama sux ftr, no idea why anyone outside of maaaaybe overspecialized ornithologists profess to like it. anyway, i have a yahoo account so other people don't have to. zero endorsements intended.
mircea_popescu: "Since 2006, weve used the services of a third-party company to offer domain registration. That worked out really well for many years. Then, in 2014, that company was acquired by another, much larger, company. Its new parent owns a large number of other hosting companies that compete directly with us." <<< heh. i suspect it's exactly http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-regist
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:03 asciilifeform: ( recall , mircea_popescu , the angry answer from d00d, 'we will never', etc. ? )
mircea_popescu: iirc this was even broken on ro trilema at some ancient point, to usual chorus of "but what proof do you have this proof you have is proofing" and other theguardianisms.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
mircea_popescu: just omits a pipe separating the last two nils
trinque: formatting goof in there? I'll take a look
mod6: trinque: do i need to change the one listed here then? http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 06:21 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akPqa/?raw=true << The IP address for deedbot.org and wot.deedbot.org shall be 45.32.123.240 from block 487154 until further notice.
mircea_popescu: phf that it only gives from the later parameter
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << lol didja also neglect the scorpion pit and the nuke waste drums ?
asciilifeform: ( recall , mircea_popescu , the angry answer from d00d, 'we will never', etc. ? )
asciilifeform: though on upside they take btc nao...
asciilifeform: '“Who should have to pay for protection from DDOS attacks?” is a trick question. No one should. Period. Because DDOS attacks shouldn’t happen. They definitely shouldn’t be several orders of magnitude easier and cheaper to launch than they are to defend against. But “should” and “is” are miles apart, and we have to take the world as it is, not as it should be. So who does have to pay for protection from DDOS attacks? E
hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
mod6: they'll prolly try
ag3nt_zer0: yeah hmmm as i went through the required stuff listed on trb node setup page, all of them said "______ is already the newest version"... all except the sha512sum
shinohai: That sgould be included in the core-utils package
ag3nt_zer0: following the guide for trb node creation, in making sure i have correct packages and binaries, seems everything is fine but "sha512sum" read package lists, built dep. tree, read state info, and then says: E: Unable to locate package sha512sum - is this going to create problems and if so how might i fix?
jhvh1: cruciform: The operation succeeded.
phf: also can definitely add notfrom: i almost think it should be there already as exclude or filter or somesuch
mircea_popescu: so then `ffa`-tronic not `ffa-tronic`
asciilifeform: re the separators, imho only whole alpha words oughta be tags
mircea_popescu: i suppose the from:x is directly suited for this
mircea_popescu: but the former is strictly correct
asciilifeform: imho ideally the latter.
mircea_popescu: so then is `ffa`-tronic or `ffa-tronic` ?
asciilifeform: oh hey backtick lookin' to be the champ
davout: this is going to end up in #trilema reinventing the semantic web
asciilifeform: ( and oh hey another one we've already usedup )
asciilifeform: davout: if ç then just as well ы
mircea_popescu: destroys the whole flow of typed text.
trinque: then it's both in the logs, and the logger can do something interesting with it, if it can.
trinque: possibly the thing is a standard log reference format, path part of the URL. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02?l=1719816&re=logging
asciilifeform: let there be 1 text.
asciilifeform: 'in-house' annotations that will fall off the net if a particular logviewtron dies, are imho the Wrong Thing.
asciilifeform: i'm not currently sold that it is great idea. but there might not be a better one.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 20:06 trinque: or what of the ancient logs
asciilifeform: say i want to 'infect' the line http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719816 , now if i include @ffa it will apply likewise to it.
trinque: or what of the ancient logs
asciilifeform: if it dun belong in the logs, it possibly dun belong anywhere
asciilifeform: it and only it, is the canonical material.
asciilifeform: the raw text is the only thing all logtrons ( and viewers elsewhere ) automatically get in sync
trinque: alternatively could be said that the log viewers ought to implement an annotation layer above the text
trinque: twitter kids and their hashtags aren't "wrong" so much as that they have nothing at all to say.
ben_vulpes: phf's log search has a bifurcative behavior on the quotes
asciilifeform: imho log supplies all of the 'pull' anybody ought to want.
mircea_popescu: at this rate we'll end up with metasyntactic. something like introduce @concept as a notation for concepts so they get indexed.
asciilifeform: ( not only the discussion it led to, but that led ~to~ it )
asciilifeform: the entire context.
asciilifeform: it's the magically most accurate way !
mircea_popescu: so what is the idea here, if i wish to review the state of this, other than asking you, i could also what ? !#s ffa ?
mircea_popescu: but the correct form for this would be https://archive.is/http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/$VAR$/?raw=true and where do they get that var ?
asciilifeform: my main contention is that folks who do not follow the logs, have 0 business with ffa drafts.
asciilifeform: insistent pullers, who do not follow the l0gz in real time, can go to e.g. https://archive.is/http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lHtia/?raw=true
asciilifeform: dropping code into ben_vulpes's pastetron is imho a sane way to emphasize, to the point of blood, that IT IS NOT A CODE RELEASE
mircea_popescu: she has a legitimate problem though -- interested parties can't follow the matter in their own time. it's currently push not pull, which is always a bad idea.
asciilifeform: once the thing has a final form, diana_coman , then yes it will go on my www; and with commentary; and potentially on dead tree even.
asciilifeform: ( which is about pgp sigs, rather than where to post drafts, but the abstract item is the same -- how to avoid giving false permanence )
asciilifeform: yes, folx can get ffa snippets from archive.is/l0gz but it is clear that they are drafts.
asciilifeform: i also do not like giving drafts a permanence they do not deserve
asciilifeform: and afaik all of the sane people who ever read my www, are already here.
asciilifeform: ( the 16s incidentally is , e.g., 10s, on intel box )
asciilifeform: but i put it here to show that it is possible to cut another 2x time without barrett.
asciilifeform: because it IS more complex and harder to read, than the old.
asciilifeform: i don't know whether it will make sense to keep this version of knuthdivider, after we have barrett ( where there is still 1 division, but now it is ONE per modexp, and not 8192 of'em ! )
asciilifeform: trinque: i left the prev. iteration of FZ_Mod in there, commented out. the current one is there.