davout: buttfinex also has such a market with roughly the same volume figures
davout: trade volume seems pretty low on all these ~100 btc/24h
mircea_popescu: iirc the confederate republic scored this low after lee surrended and not at any point before
ben_vulpes: was shitty for a bit there
asciilifeform: in other lulz, comcast ( mega-monopoly isp in good chunk of usa ) is down.
diana_coman: hmm, I suppose I could run a trial test on a batch of generated public exponents with co-prime rather than strict prime requirements, to see what small factors are there but not sure if this will say a lot really in itself; fwiw I don't feel particularly comfortable with the idea of a non-prime public exponent but I don't have mathematical proof for weakness introduced, hence my question
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: turns out it's not the brightest idea to deny people access to the body of a message if you're gonna send that subject line via email.
mircea_popescu: shinohai part 2 of the lulz is that the userbase is now revolting. "Well screw that then. This website is a big hoax."
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 14:18 mircea_popescu: " The Saudis will not be able to link the S-400 with Saudis current (US and Europe-sourced) infrastructure, nor will they be able to connect the S-400 with US systems." << says who the everloving fuck.
asciilifeform: as described on trilema and elsewhere, usd ain't money, it's 'money[*]', and the * typically includes 'cannot be spend on defense from usg'
mircea_popescu: kinda weakly defended, them bluebloods.
asciilifeform: possibly gotta 1938 the wrong-chirality bluebloods who want to spend it in usg-unapproved ways (e.g. btc) ..?
mircea_popescu: hey, the saudis have a lot of paper moneyz.
mircea_popescu: "we're running out of money, tax the provinces" ?
mircea_popescu: oh i see, it's the even friendlier us ?
asciilifeform: 'The conference was spearheaded by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is pushing an ambitious reform plan that is aimed at reducing the country's dependence on oil over the next decade. The prince is also leading the anti-corruption committee that has the authority to investigate, arrest, issue travel bans and freeze the assets of those it finds corrupt.' << lol!
hanbot: <asciilifeform> in other lulz, https://archive.is/UVcTG >> 'reports of death of yet another Saudi prince' << meanwhile i was reading this morning "riadyh ritz-carlton now detention center for saudi royals", (http://archive.is/p7KPc), but tuned out when "evidence" seemed to consist of "booking websites" not having rooms available.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/how-the-beastforumcom-private-messaging-function-became-a-paid-user-only-item/ << Trilema - How the beastforum.com private messaging function became a paid-user-only item
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/UVcTG >> 'reports of death of yet another Saudi prince'
mircea_popescu: "but there are no alternatives111!!!"
ben_vulpes: lookie, usg agents teaching the world that depositing into their banks is a fucking terrible deal
a111: Logged on 2017-11-06 16:21 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ZuzvO << from same rag, 'They accused him of “structuring” — depositing money in increments of less than $10,000'
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-06#1733218 <<< "The IRS wouldn’t comment on Kwon’s specific case, but a spokesman noted that he pleaded guilty to the structuring charge."
asciilifeform: may be in the logs.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> definitely acceptable for first month anyway, i'd say. << The second month will be more organized in the course of going along
shinohai: You can buy the pansy-ass modified ones with breathing tubes @ local sex shop.
asciilifeform: and on top is this, there is ~state~ level copy of same apparatus. e.g. in asciilifeform's local moneychangery, there is a placard, hanging in plain sight , re 'to cachiers: you MUST report all tx of 2k or larger, even if customer was regular for decades, by order of maryland something-or-other commission'
asciilifeform: the '10,000' thing also has an element of 'torbrowserism' -- to spread the notion, among the simple, that 'it has to be >10k to be seen'
mircea_popescu: "not breaking the law is a crime!"
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ZuzvO << from same rag, 'They accused him of “structuring” — depositing money in increments of less than $10,000'
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/metheus/ << moar, apparently.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf do you know this https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_metheusSch_74035988 d00d ?
mircea_popescu: not specifically. can reside wherever, but not much interest in country girl chained-to-the-land mentalities.
mircea_popescu: spend the usual 200 hours/week connected to irc and doing whatever clerical tasks provided. must be native chinese speaker with a reasonable command of english, she's not expected to take calls or anything in it.
RagnarDanneskjol: MP - I tried to follow the 'girl worker at a desk in Beijing' conversation, but not quite clear on the requirement there - anything I can do to help? I know lots of ppl in BJ and will be there for work next week.
shinohai: I shall have to purchase a pin meter and hire the services of 10-20 women to test this hypothesis .....
mircea_popescu: i can't say i've had the experience. but... sounds like they're trying to overperform to impress ? not a bad trait it itself.
RagnarDanneskjol: I am totally with you on "where is it written" Fuckin A, these Cali chicks always trying to prove something in the sac. I'm having the same conversation all the time - 'where is it written that you have to grind my dick off like a jackhammer before you even start to get wet?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/simple-method-to-moisturize-the-female/ << Trilema - Simple method to moisturize the female
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo item is markedly better in that it contains factual details ; still not great in that the details there present are disorganised, not evidently sorted into a complete tree with branches clipped by an obvious importance criteria and so on.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/11/05/iqaluit-nunavut-an-isolated-colonial-outpost-of-a-somewhat-less-isolated-colonial-outpost-of-the-pockmarked-empire/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Iqaluit, Nunavut: An isolated colonial outpost of a somewhat less isolated colonial outpost of the pockmarked Empire.
BingoBoingo: Yes, Brazilian DC very hungry for business. The why of their hunger is a portion of the reason I have been getting practice patching drywall these past two weeks.
BingoBoingo: Brazil also has lingering liability in uncertain import duties for servers and networking equipment. Being the biggest, supposedly most togetherest on their continent has apparently fucked their heads.
BingoBoingo: Well yeah. Buncha people with paper frantically trying to keep the pretense of the paper's promises going. Who needs Vandals and Goths when you have baby boomers.
mircea_popescu: the economy is so fucking dead...
mircea_popescu: in other fittings, http://78.media.tumblr.com/262c393815c82efa09bd08f100115736/tumblr_nizwrnX0tH1rdgf8do1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: get the specific item, corp reg for sale by lawyer with no activity.
BingoBoingo: Most on the market are failed gringo lifestyle projects
BingoBoingo: Hopefully that is the route fellipelali's contacts will lead, but substantial due diligence required. A lot of pre-regd corps in Brazil are loaded with debt.
mircea_popescu: in juristidctions where that is the case, saner lawyers have pre-regd corps ready to be sold.
BingoBoingo: Colombia also has substantial cable coming in from across the Caribean and through the Isthmus
BingoBoingo: In further digging looking at public undersea cable maps, Montevideo is apparently a popular destination for "disaster recovery" infrastructure.
BingoBoingo: Still trying to move forward on Brazil, but gotta keep the parallelism up in the search lest locking issues screw the whole thing until next year.
BingoBoingo: The cost of doing anything in Brazil without already being established in a Mercosur jurisdiction also keeps adding up.
BingoBoingo: It's still there, but they timeline to make a business there is months out so I am still slutting it up and looking for faster sexier prospects where something might be able to turn on by Thanksgiving
hanbot: aha. sixty's pretty shitty, but relative to other service industries not so bad...
BingoBoingo: Tomorrow cold calling Uruguay, then Colombia
BingoBoingo: Peru's a no go. Only independent "datacenters" advertising as such there aren't in the colo business. They are in the Pinoy spam for Espanol speakers business
hanbot: hey nice report BingoBoingo. what sorta percentage of the 56 dcs contacted wrote back at all, for the curious?
mircea_popescu: and in other presentation suggestions, homemade pate on homemade bread with chilera de jalapenos and/or pickles. followed by a nice cigar with a rum.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/05/tbi-october-2017-report/ << Bingo Blog - TBI October 2017 Report
asciilifeform: imho it is a quite obvious idea. but the above is the closest asciilifeform found to any record of it having been attempted.
asciilifeform: 'First Demonstration and Visualization of Receive Spatial Modulation Using the “Radio Wave Display”' march 2017
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 17:58 asciilifeform: re: cryptoradio, here's a gedankenexperiment: consider a tx station consisting of 2 separated (by, say, a km+ of cable) transmitters; each sends prng soup across a few 100MHz . modulation of payload is strictly via altering their relative ~amplitudes~ .
asciilifeform: in other lulz, the french apparently did almost think of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1733006 a while back, but 'additional signal to help receive normal one' snore, https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01489004/document ( sorry, pdfola )
mircea_popescu: reports are to the past, and are definite. they are not concerned with either the future or "possibilities"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
a111: Logged on 2017-11-05 05:59 deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/04/the-boingo-isp-draft-charter/ << Bingo Blog - The Boingo ISP Draft Charter
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-05#1733062 << dood, nevermind charters and bs. a) you still haven't published ~a report~. and it's the 5th. b) http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651459 ! and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714557 !!
trinque: jurov: there ya are, relative links for bundles
jurov: and you consider the reasons above sufficient?
trinque: can change the links, sure
trinque: didn't say anything other than I don't do anything without a reason
jurov: Lastly, as an appeal to any trace of ocd present, links to individual deeds are relative already, and i don't see why the difference.
jurov: also, with only relative links, one can use the mirror as local files without any changes
jurov: because the mirror does not live at root path
trinque: how'd it be converting the URL? absolute path is absolute
jurov: namely: <a href="/bundle-492667.txt">492667</a> bundle links and the stylesheet
mircea_popescu: and in other buttxplorations, http://78.media.tumblr.com/cbd7c36f2107fceb0fb7b4836273b3d2/tumblr_nl272gQp741sfhnpeo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: two buttfinexes butt-finessing each other.
asciilifeform: i haven't even heard of either party prior.
asciilifeform: the derps are literally indistinguishable to asciilifeform's unarmed eye
a111: Logged on 2017-11-05 14:39 mircea_popescu: in other entomology weird, https://via.hypothes.is/https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-05#1733088 << try as i might , i cannot tell who , if anyone, is the ant, and who , if anyone - the anteater
mircea_popescu: apparently the redditards are taking very seriously their "become the hot topic of the 2010s" mission.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 11:40 Framedragger: hello! reporting alive status. went for extended travels through portugal and the likes, moved into apartment in homeland, managing whole new (to me) world of poly relationships, and other fun stuff.
mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721620 lulz : apparently there's a polyamory community on freenode.
mircea_popescu: in other entomology weird, https://via.hypothes.is/https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/
mircea_popescu: well, whatever he has to say is thereby disqualified
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for the obvious reason
asciilifeform: ( something like ye old 'leah' but steals half-chewed tmsrisms to grease the implement )
BingoBoingo: The crashing continues
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/04/the-boingo-isp-draft-charter/ << Bingo Blog - The Boingo ISP Draft Charter
BingoBoingo: ^ Please comment here or there
trinque: mod6: there ya go ^
shinohai: blockchain.info on the phork: "To ensure they remain safe while the network is in transition, we will temporarily suspend bitcoin send, request, buy, sell, and exchange functionality roughly 12 to 24 hours before the time of the fork until the network stabilizes. "
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: in other fiat-octopus-withdrawing-from-salt news, https://forum.fiverr.com/t/payment-in-bitcoin/100989 << fiverr discontinues bitcoin payments.
asciilifeform: ( observe that 'fox hunting' for ulw is ~impractical, not only from sheer physical dimensions of the receiver , but from signal strength being approx same on entire planet, regardless of where you tx from )
asciilifeform: what i suspect you get, is something quite like the ultralongwave submarine transmitter, but without the monstrous mains current bills.
mircea_popescu: just about the item i thought was under discussion all along.
asciilifeform: 1 reduces to convention radio, where the signal carries meaning.
asciilifeform: thereby scheme reduces to looking for a truly rngistic signal that at all times is known ~in advance~, but from 2 or more diverging physical directions; and comparing.
asciilifeform: ( and can just as easily substitute ~actual~ otp in place of the prng, if you like , the exact mechanics of generating the noise waveform are irrelevant other than for the fact that they must be repeatable )
asciilifeform: i.e. individually the signals are meaningless
asciilifeform: the prongs thing is quite like the xor-otp structure removal transform from the ciphers thread
asciilifeform: receiver needs to know 1) prng seed for each 2) the band 3) his physical position relative to the prongs of the station
asciilifeform: re: cryptoradio, here's a gedankenexperiment: consider a tx station consisting of 2 separated (by, say, a km+ of cable) transmitters; each sends prng soup across a few 100MHz . modulation of payload is strictly via altering their relative ~amplitudes~ .
mircea_popescu: hey, outsourcing goes the way it goes.
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Group_photo_of_Wikimedians_Meetup_With_Katherine_Maher_-_WikiConference_India_-CGC_-IMG_5330.jpg << meanwhile wikipedia ever more relevant. in india.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:59 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated lulz : the "womenz in tech" dynastry of aparatchicks over at wikipedia is pretty lulzi : sue gardner's lengthy tenure ended (she was recycled to nsa honeypot "tor project") to be replaced by lila tretikov, two bit russki scammer gal who got sent off (over the whole "knowledge engine" failed wikimedia http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729324 attempt) to be replaced by katherine maher.
mircea_popescu: gaussian is a decent "middle of the way" representation ; but not so useful when discussing specifically stuff to the extreme one side.
mircea_popescu: yes it's true that heat in a rod, or whatever diffusion phenomena are relatively smooth in this sense ; nevertheless em is the least smooth of the entire series.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose the correct reference i sohulkd have given re smoothness was weierstrass.
asciilifeform: so subj is really a restatement of asciilifeform's orig q : how does the fox's equip have to differ from the extant.
asciilifeform: 'not using hunter's equipment' still requires a meaningful difference to exist. just as in the case described in old trilema, where some illiterate camel fucker reinvented caesar's cipher ( and unsurprisingly exactly as breakable as if caesar were resurrected and using his , because why not , despite 'not issued by hunter')
mircea_popescu: ie, the very substance of the "fox can be found" argument. yes, if he uses sparkplugs you yourself sold him ; yes, if he lives in a space of gaussian noise ; yes if etc.
mircea_popescu: i suppose. though really the problem as far as interests here is this : presented with an "aberration", in natural noise you really can't tell whether relevant ; whereas in gaussian noise you generally can guess.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all schemes where the transform is of 'payload itself' and 0 entropy, suffer from immediate 'penguin problem', https://blog.filippo.io/content/images/2015/11/Tux_ecb.jpg .
mircea_popescu: apeloyee let me take the matter this way : are you familiar with how every "be a graphics artist" software package out there has a coinvolve-with-gaussian "effect" ?
asciilifeform: naturally fox will make own, rather than using hunter's, gear.
asciilifeform: whole q, from asciilifeform's pov, is 'what should the fox do, if playing without rules, in battlefield, not in karateka'
mircea_popescu: not ~entirely~ passive, he makes some assumptions on the nature of "using hunter-provided equipment"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly ; but this would then match my criteria for "not by purely passive em methods" above.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unfortunately noise is not a scalar : enemy can distinguish your transmitter from supernovae, strictly from the fact that the latter happen 'in the sky' and the former -- not
mircea_popescu: however you define your function, the principal distinction between gaussian and natural noise is that the former is smooth.
apeloyee: real noise is not so gaussian << true. but still means must solve the q of optimal bandwidth each time
asciilifeform: ( admittedly spark plug 'fox hunt' worx great in the otherwise rf-quiet jungle, but would not in a city or anywhere remotely industrialized )
mircea_popescu: (imo the best model of "real noise" in this sense is perusing the SETI reports, or else any major, indiscriminate dataset of radiotelescopy. THAT is how natural noise goes. with the occasional neutron star and the occasional "holy shit" scribbled in pen)
apeloyee: i meant optimal for the sender and his expected recipient, not eavesdropper.
apeloyee: *theorem
apeloyee: if you use wide spectrums, you get back to the problem of, "nature has more energy to burn than you do" << I'm unsure. Shannon-Hartley thorem sez that at least in its conditions, using as wide spectrum as poosible is optimal.
asciilifeform: even without carrier, possible to find. consider usg's adventure in vietnam, where they picked up spark plug noise from trucks on ho chi min trail.
mircea_popescu: i thought the discussion was carierless
mircea_popescu: apeloyee suppose what is transmitted is an equivalent of the "number stations" of old. minus, of course, the girly voice.
asciilifeform: idea is that for the enemy, without the key, you are below noise floor; but for the intended recipient, who knows how to look -- above.
apeloyee: if you have more transmitters than enemy has receivers "in the area" (precise meaning is a legit research q), then you can hide from the enemy, otherwise, you will be eventually found.
mircea_popescu: if you use wide spectrums, you get back to the problem of, "nature has more energy to burn than you do"
mircea_popescu: apeloyee narrowness of band was the original attempt to get out of this. the narrower the band the "better" the reception in the sense of fewer natural perturbations. which is what drove the move to diodes and then ic.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: difficult is ok. so long as for intended man -- possible, for the unintended -- impossible.
asciilifeform: well it's a sport, they use agreed-upon standard item, just like both tennis players get same type of racket, etc
apeloyee: if there's truly that many perturbations, they will also make difficult for the intended recipient to receive correctly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then i guess foxes use hunter-provided equipment.
asciilifeform: incidentally, rf 'fox hunting' is at this point a traditional sport in ru, and the 'fox' is always found .
mircea_popescu: in general, the only thing a "find me an em shrubbery" produces reliably are false positives.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee take an actually publicly-documented example : most crews tend to turn off the auto-return-fire thingee because left to its own devices it wastes all the ammo.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: what i'd like is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732165 + if you ~do~ somehow detect the fact-of the transmission, it ought to look exactly like the source had wings and zipped randomly around the continent.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of phenomena intercede. clouds is an example, but the point is that "noise floor" is not JUST a floor, but also randomly distributed perturbations, which during a whole day can reach significant amplitudes.
apeloyee: I concede I don't have a good estimate as to the amount of information a fixed location's good for
apeloyee: clouds move. otoh if the suspected source keeps transmitting...
mircea_popescu: (item got reliably measured because in the 90s they were derping about putting a d-fluorine mw laser on it.)
mircea_popescu: for instance : the majority of low clouds passing over this here observation point are em-louder than CG-73.
apeloyee: can just as easily be, say, 17 sources geographically dispersed , working in concert << you would not particuraly need fancy modulations then
apeloyee: by using stronger signal than the stoves. if you try to be below noise, you would transmit slowly, and thus still not evade max # of bits.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee maybe i'm missing something. how do you distinguish this "something" from "people turned on their electric stoves" say ?
apeloyee: two stations won't let you recover the signal, of course; just know something's there as soon as it transmitted enough bits (literally!)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 14:18 asciilifeform: apeloyee: q was, is it possible to transmit in such a way that for someone without the key, there ~is~ no 'signals received'
mircea_popescu: romanian expression is "taie frunza la ciini", ie, divide leaves among the dogs.
mircea_popescu: gotta kill the time somehow.
asciilifeform: they sit around and 'make rules' for it, same as 'for blockchain laundering' etc.
asciilifeform: oh upstack re radios, the 'why not use aperidic wave, and entire spectrum' thing was of course not long ago hannobockized and redhatized by usg shills, as 'uwb (ultrawideband)' and 'regulated' and other rubbish.
asciilifeform: i'll let the man speak for himself
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 14:45 asciilifeform: ( incidentally the other day asciilifeform finally met phf in meatland )
asciilifeform: orig point being that directionfinder gear makes life unreasonably easy for the enemy
mircea_popescu: well, once you finally get triphase installed you may then be surprised.
asciilifeform: i haven't verified that the 3rd rail in the underground is 800 volts hot, yet, either.
mircea_popescu: i've never verified this theory.
mircea_popescu: out of their happy interaction, a whole alt-world of no impact and no importance.
mircea_popescu: so... nsa wants to keep in touch with the whatever community, and idle tards of ~same value as a pig their size want to be kept in touch with.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually, exactly like kanzure and friends. they've nothing to do with the topic they discuss, but they do enjoy the attention from you know, "authority".
asciilifeform: was this the fetlife thing
mircea_popescu: many many years ago. but the item is exactly descriptive. one day, white petrus shows up at so and so office, starts picking up the trash and acting as if he works there for visitors.
asciilifeform: exactly like the 'cypherpunks' as described by phf in old thread
asciilifeform: there is also quite a bit of fixation, among the aficionados, on the physical process of building the radios, stringing antennae through treetops, and other minutiae.
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, it is a kind of primitive voice-powered usenet group, with the diff that you can get gestapo to pick up spammers
asciilifeform: to this day i puzzle over what is the appeal of 'licensed amateur radio'
asciilifeform: it is normally the crown-licensed user of the 'trespassed' spectrum, who rats him out. in almost all cases on the public record -- 'licensed amateurs'
asciilifeform: ( in mega-b00k re 'evil fyoootoor' , 'stand on zanzibar', this process becomes a proper service, for which they charge, and you can get not only firing squad but whatever you like, burning at the stake, guillotine, etc. )
asciilifeform: ( what whatever reason, convincing police to shoot is a popular suicide method in usaschwitz. rather like it was in orig auschwitz. )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, notice how it's all males ? how about some fucking gender equality ? where's the "women in police shootings" workgroup ?
mircea_popescu: i expect when i finally execute whoever's then sitting on the inca throne, they'll print "ex US president dies after MP confrontation"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but that's the point, a battlefield where everyone was properly armed hasn't existed since the sabine "war-games" ie let's figure out who impregnates this gang of feverish sluts.
asciilifeform: let's momentarily dispense with the broken doors and midnight policemen, and consider battlefield , where everybody's properly armed etc. for clarity of thought. conventional radio -- triangulable and draws accurate fire on its position. q is, can haz one that does not ? or not.
asciilifeform: even more likely to be run down by bus crossing the street
mircea_popescu: i am offering the (sadly unverifiable) proposition here that it is more likely to have your door broken into and your pet shot because "they thought tuttle lived there" a la brasil ; than because you were running a clinton-porn-pirate-radiostation and someone in usg noticed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must be one of the folx who brings own bomb on every plane, as in the famous anecdote, 'probability of 2 bombs is epsilon'
mircea_popescu: people get shot while the usg brown shirts are breaking in all the time ; they had no transmitters. adding one that had to this list does not raise above the statistical noise floor.
mircea_popescu: so, to make it perfectly plain : A. they'll break down "your" door at any point and for no reason because it's not your fucking door and they're not reasonable. B. a forty cent bullet is more effectual countermeasure than ANY amount of thought.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the broader point i am making is that the constraints on the gestapo are neither financial nor technological.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it is altogether likely that HADN'T there been a "hero security guard"/illegal immigrant to try and break in the door, 60 or so useless tards watching a "concert" would still be here sucking down their coca colas.
asciilifeform: the 'could fight to the death to defend the radio' proposition is orthogonal to the q of 'can haz pill against foxhunters' .
mircea_popescu: ONLY when some dork tried breaking in the door, ONLY, ABSOLUTELY ONLY when confronted with a hard decision did he start shooting. not before.
shinohai is reminded of how the Syrians captured Eli Cohen in this thread ......
mircea_popescu: consider the following point : the recent las vegas shooter had bought a room ; and had ferried a quarter ton of materiel up there ; and then the concert started, and he sat.
asciilifeform: and when gestapo says 'transmitter here' and they break the door, it in fact is there.
mircea_popescu: they "decode" who paid whom when via blockchain signals, they see transmitters etc, they've "incontrovertible proof" that so and so parcel of fiatola broke the laws and so on
mircea_popescu: you've seen the whole "blockchain interpretation & crystal ball" "expert services" usg spawned to date neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "british researchers" as they're known in the romanian press will receive all sorts of signals, even when no signals there.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: q was, is it possible to transmit in such a way that for someone without the key, there ~is~ no 'signals received'
mircea_popescu: ie, there's a dork doing great seo successes by auto-translating and republishing content.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Die Geschichte von zwei Jungen auf trilema ein Blog von mircea popescu. Bitcoin Bergbau auf Android"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:33 asciilifeform: ^ per asciilifeform's current understanding, thing is untriangulable unless enemy knows the freq keying pattern, or is standing in the near field of your transmitter.
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732128 << correlation between signals received on two stations can reveal the fact that somebody's transmitting
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-cunt-off-brutti-sporchi-e-cattivi-vs-la-chiave-or-rome-and-venezia/ << Trilema - The Cunt-off : Brutti, sporchi e cattivi vs La chiave ; or Rome and Venezia
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 06:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732274 << not exactly. exception becomes semantically meaningful, then others end up building applications on the meaning, then you're stuck supporting unintended downstreams.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732293 << I think I see what you mean. In my case the meaning would end up being "x are never routed through y, ever". I could then end up regretting this if I one day encounter the situation where changing that meaning would result in an overall better process, but, alas, I cannot change due to downstream dependence on that meaning
mircea_popescu: "cyber forensic lab" aka the usg owned-and-operator "truefax" producer for usg court system.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu or anyone else knows of anything resembling this item off-the-shelf -- plox to link.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732785 << on the contrary, it is not publicly available for any kind of money ( and would need some gnarly custom silicon, to produce )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the shared pickle front, http://78.media.tumblr.com/0a8cb4685b6e25335b0dfc587e0ee847/tumblr_ncfkylCPhs1rlva65o1_400.gif
shinohai: Though taking a drink every time the video buffers is fun. Wheeeeee!
mircea_popescu: isn't it great for a free and open society to enjoy a vigurous academia which, like the brain on the healthy body, encased in its grey old stones, can lead through the bog of nonsense towards that enchanted high plateau of truth and sparkling clean springwater on the side ?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: however, post-collapse, the scholarship on the same topic is "probably unimportant nonevent".
mircea_popescu: in other lulz of all time : the pre-collapse of pantsuitistan scholarship of the anglo "peasan't revolt" (item where they beheaded the lord chancellor/treasurer/all cambridge robes they could find etc) was that MAJOR SOCIO-ECONOMICAL and POLITICAL!!! development OF GREAT IMPACT!!11
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732737 << do you understand how the original stuxnet item propagated ?
BingoBoingo: Grain fineness is one of those things that scales. If you want good rice start with a few tons rather than pounds.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:26 vlad56324: but if i generate entropy with my paper + pen, am i on the safe side or still intel can theoretically fuck me?
mircea_popescu: people could and routinely did read the whole memory content.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:22 vlad56324: you know what: it seems to me that with 56k it was very easy to have some decent "fine grained" control over the packets
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732711 << of course. back in the z80 days the whole memory could be printed out, wouldn't even take a whole book. more like what today passes for one, ie 40-50 pages' worth.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732693 << the danielpbarron eulora thing is intended as work-in-progress os basis for eulora (the mmorpg). it is not specifically secure yet ; it is however cleanner, in that less spurious / unnecessary / unknown or incomprejhensioble stuff included.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732685 << same reason people use perl instead of hacking sed awk and grep together every time.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732674 << hey, bakery better than the crapple store.
mircea_popescu: template pretty much is "pay me clerical fee for the styory of method to make $random-figure". whole fucking thing is based on wsd ; which is the problem with tards, fail to distinguish the stories they tell themselves from reality anymore.