mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733636 << there's exactly zero incentive to plan for actual war for the obvious reason : 0 survival rate of current socialisms in case of war.
mircea_popescu: 1. full employment ; 2. notwitstanding full employment, no work being done ever observed ; 3. notwithstanding no work being done ever observed, all plans realised > 100% ; 4. notwithstanding all plans always overfulfilled, no useful products ever on the open market ; 5. notwithstanding no products ever on open market, everyone well supplied ; 6. notwithstanding everyone well supplied, everyone always stealing ; 7. notwithstan
asciilifeform: 'we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us' ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733587 << this is a funny application of the 7 wonders of socialism. dja know that bit ?
asciilifeform: ( the 'rtl' dongle sdr aficionados ~all use, started life as 'tv' )
asciilifeform: fwiw there is already a wifi set in ~every isp-issued kit in usa. which is basically a sdr
asciilifeform: how often do they mandate something loudly and with fanfare.
mircea_popescu: "this is the new consensus-community developed standard"
mircea_popescu: they -- for lack of alternative.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 19:17 apeloyee: the enemy doesn't realistically have resource to stand next to everyone. see bitcoin: can't make rewriting history impossible, lets make it unprofitable.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733562 << this is a doubtful proposition, as the enemy is basically "idiots", and much like nature having much more energy to burn than you do, idiots are much more affixed to their idiotarian ideology than you will ever be to yours.
asciilifeform: wasn't meant to be 'kept in attics gathering dust', but simply low duty cycle - as in, e.g., 1ms per hour
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 19:15 asciilifeform: well yes, in the sense that they spend the vast majority of time, silent
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733558 << this is a maintenance nightmare. the fundamental reason girls get married off is that it's much more efficient to maintain a station that works rather than to maintain a station that doesn't work.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 19:02 apeloyee: to a reasonable value, but there's probably no escape from "keep moving"
asciilifeform: they come in standard railroad size too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they had one of those at 'banat fair' thing ! ( though it was plugged into mains )
asciilifeform: other thing re 'hybrids' that asciilifeform never understood, is why to have a rotary engine at all !
mircea_popescu: charge tesla by running mercedes so the hipsters can hipster
asciilifeform: would go handily with the 13337 pirate sw set.
mircea_popescu: i'd like a car like that, insteadof the "planet saving" bullshit.
asciilifeform: but theoretically even this, could be made detachable.
mircea_popescu: i guess. though im not sure i want to perma-carry the generator coils.
asciilifeform: ideally you'd have the rotor attached to the drive shaft; by default stator is disconnected. when you want to turn the auto into generator, you put the thing in neutral, undo the clutch, and put on gas (ideally has 'cruise control' throttle)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that pos goes over the wheel, bs. i want to bolt it on instead of the wheel!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't so difficult for ignoramus to wreck an ordinary auto, either
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( vs motor-per-wheel ) << requires more software for traction control when you have all of the torque starting from 0
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo may have the exact recipe, this is a thing welders, cement people, etc. actually do. << Called a "power take off" Standard issue on tractors. Special order on trucks.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the gearbox is massive loss Internal friction in motor pistons ~50% loss, so what?
asciilifeform: and the motors scale down. but needs correct soft.
ben_vulpes still a fan of the wrightspeed/volt model of onboard generation and electric drivetrain
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is why it wasn't done. they literally cannot afford even one simple piece of correct soft.
ben_vulpes: not intractable, just more complicated than bolting a muxer to the driveshaft.
asciilifeform: incl the porches etc
asciilifeform: oh hm really ? the 'prius' etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i tried like 5 diff ones, they're all shit.
mircea_popescu: and much better than any fucking converted lawnmower they sell as generator, for that matter.
asciilifeform: the 'hybrid' crackpot autos, incidentally, have proper gen
mircea_popescu: and most of the weight of the 30kg generator that needs a fuckming crane to move comfortably is the fucking engine, which guess what, i already have.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, inductive load is generally 3x the rated draw. 3kw is not a fucking ac unit for instance.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo may have the exact recipe, this is a thing welders, cement people, etc. actually do.
asciilifeform: well yes convertible, there's a clutch
mircea_popescu: that's not what i want. i want a washingmachine dynamo i can put in the back of the truck and take to middle of nowhere for tailgate party with megawatt power available.
asciilifeform: the gearbox is massive loss
mircea_popescu: i don't want that crap. i want a unit the size of washing machine.
mircea_popescu: that thing is like 1.5mn and the size of a room
asciilifeform: or rather, a modern non-orc incarnation
mircea_popescu: park your car, put out 50kW or w/e the conversion yielkds.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they do, asciilifeform's father designed one when he was my current age
mircea_popescu: i want an unit which lifts up the bridge, plugs into the car as if it were a wheel, and then simply converts.
asciilifeform: ( at least in the classical 'i want my orders from moscow' type of sw )
asciilifeform: they nuke sw reception ~entirely
mircea_popescu: the lights especially.
mircea_popescu: what IS however overwhelmingly present in su of today is the howl of the newstyle ligthtbulb balancing circuits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they've been displaced by 'modern' crapola, e.g. led light bulbs, 'power line ethernet', etc
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 18:48 asciilifeform: reason is so that each station can be physically indistinguishable, from outside the door, from, e.g., a defective lift motor that arcs a bit
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733491 << for the record, these were a lot more common in soviet union than in present days.
asciilifeform: lol but the empty loops in microshit!1111
mircea_popescu: tbh, by comparison with the volume of spurious strings pasted into shitsites, the amount of idle for loops executed to date seems dismall. less reddit more foring.
mircea_popescu: more than nothing. for all the idle cycles being burned erryday...
asciilifeform: has no bearing on the ones that are not.
mircea_popescu: numeric methods to the rescue. wtf are computers even for amirite.
asciilifeform: nor emit information re the input or output via timing sidechannel.
asciilifeform: nor give some segments of the input bitstring more influence over the output than others.
asciilifeform: it is more that i cannot prove to my satisfaction that it does not skew the distribution .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733464 << i still don't follow how you figure the approach elides some primes.
mircea_popescu: "pivot" being the anglo word for this.
asciilifeform: this is the fate of all 'we don't have an ideology' derps
asciilifeform: the scihub thing isn't even sure what it wants to be , 13337 w4r3z, or 'service'
mircea_popescu: but otherwhise there's no excuse available to the chuchka that "washing is too hard and besides rubbing against a tree trunk is a close approximation"
mircea_popescu: or whatever, if they don't feel like it, like eg ben_vulpes doesn't for his paste service, let them not to
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733438 << let them learn how to fucking use technological civilisation, get a deedbot account and fucking charge like sane people.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 17:27 apeloyee: ......p_n are independent and uniformly distributed, then the probability of tuple of these being chosen is the same (by definition of independence), and because CRT gives a bijection, all outputs are equally likely. did I repeat myself enough?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 17:14 asciilifeform: ( why is there EVER EVEN ONE ?! )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so, because the gap's a cone not a rectangle
asciilifeform: afaik all of the bits are equally likely to 'need flipping'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 17:03 asciilifeform: what ought to do instead, is to rngize the bottom Q bits, where Q is log2(estimated prime gap at the current bitness, times severalfold engineering margin)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733418 << no, actually : should generate new prime by adding a byte to the extant number that failed on a PROBABILITY based index. ie, adding to offset 0 much less probable than adding to offset 4090
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:41 asciilifeform: but as i currently understand, my q reduces to 'find The Formula For Primes' (tm)(r), a millenium-long headache for mathematical folx , to this day unsolved.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733356 << for completeness i originally read "largest prime factor", and intuitively thought i see the proof, but meanwhile that also collapsed.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in world of orlols, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-october-revolution-and-you.html
asciilifeform: 'That day, Polygon[13] and Kotaku[12] published articles calling the Kekistan flag an “alt-right” and “white nationalist” symbol' << lol
shinohai: https://www.antena3.ro/actualitate/social/o-organizatie-anarhista-prezenta-la-protestele-de-duminica-441087.html <<< Is my Romanian really that terrible, or are they calling a meme an "anarchist organization" ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the pleasures of overflowsandpointerslang , https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/docs/linux/found_bugs_usb.md
asciilifeform: they're happy to fly boeings into sea / towers / etc. remotely. nobody will even fart at ntp/bbc/etc.
asciilifeform: hm, nothing pertinent in there. odd.
asciilifeform: and other joys.
asciilifeform: we're speaking of the same empire who did live-fire biowar tests on own population, in the subways, 1950s
asciilifeform: they would.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:09 asciilifeform: in other unsurprises, 'Corrupt data that accidentally flowed out of a NASDAQ systems test caused the share prices...'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( i wouldn't put it past'em to 'technical glitch' and turn off bbc for a few min. to get you to up your wattage, say ) << They do it to comcast
asciilifeform: before that it only has what crumbs enemy throws from the table.
asciilifeform: once hypothetical net has multiple stations on various continents, it will have its own idea of atmospheric conditions. but not before.
asciilifeform: q is what is the best that can be done with simply a radio.
apeloyee: consider that the enemy will certainly take advantage of your willful ignorance of atmospheric conditions (as known from bbc,etc), as you will up the power
asciilifeform: but these rely on existing infrastructure, like flea relies on dog. asciilifeform's q was specifically re self-contained structure.
asciilifeform: otherwise i'd have started the thread with unsecured satellite relays ( which do currently exist )
apeloyee: can add a phase offset so that they are in-phase at receiver. N stations, more than N times SNR increase, but opens to attacks based on partial knowledge
asciilifeform: ( the british-style 'can i hear bbc?' nonsense, i will dismiss out of hand, no externals plox )
asciilifeform: as for atmospheric conditions, station has no way of knowing them
asciilifeform: for the tx process per se.
asciilifeform: sorta how i got to the positional modulator thing -- can you take advantage of the fact of having 2+ dispersed stations.
asciilifeform: also must note that if the relay is controlled via radio, you've re-created orig problem in miniature.
apeloyee: more: set up a site, bemoaning "radio intruders" on $band, stream from several nearby radios on it. the recipient can then improve SNR by subtracting whatever interference (from your POV), or estimate atmospheric conditions
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 20:08 mircea_popescu: and the shower has a pair of buttons : if you increase the hot water debit, this drops pressure for the hot pump, which kicks in, dropping pressure for the main pump, which kicks in. and vice-versa.
apeloyee: more crackpot ideas: live in flyshitville, can then have ample warning about enemy detection equipment, and plenty of RF emission by and neighbors' equipment to hide behind ( but few neighbors, important for SNR)
asciilifeform: the empires solved this with satellite.
asciilifeform: e.g. ru horizon radar , eats what, half a MHz of sw, and betcha they have a massive garbage bin to put the complaints from 50 years into.
asciilifeform: observe, the problem dun exist if you already have your own pyongyang and can happily put a megawatt station there and invite whoever objects, to pound sand up his arse
apeloyee: 'maximize # of bits that can be sent before you gotta move' << this mostly involves choice of locality. "check if the map matches the locality. If it doesn't - change the locality."(R)(C)
asciilifeform: personally i'd be satisfied with a 'it costs all the king's horses and all the king's men' item.
asciilifeform: ( currently there are 0. )
asciilifeform: was still speaking of the scenario with 1 station
apeloyee: df for usg for free << correlation attacks work but are neither easy nor cheap. if they only exchange 10% of the traffic, will take 10x as long to find you, unless they know the key
asciilifeform: now this theoretically tru
apeloyee: hogging sw spectrum will be a simple way to make new enemy. << can reach a mutially beneficial agreement. the more transmitters, the more channel capacity, until the distortion is above noise.
asciilifeform: what happens is that 5-6 pensioners notice 'noise' and get in their trucks and df for usg for free, for a month, if it takes a month
apeloyee: or they must send strgraight to enemy
apeloyee: gotta exchange among them all traffic.
asciilifeform: the 'amateur radio' people stoolie for free.
asciilifeform: incidentally the problem as originally stated, 'communicate across planet with a few watt, reliably, unjammably, and as close to undetectably as possible' was obsession of usg in 1940s-50s; and was declared 'solved enough' when satellite was built.
asciilifeform: existing gestapo aside, consider also future enemy. because even when the empires of today are forgotten, hogging sw spectrum will be a simple way to make new enemy.
asciilifeform: they're already bankrupt.
apeloyee: understand, they can't keep sieges on 10,000 вредителей. will go bankrupt.
asciilifeform: what, gotta break into every single neighbour and see if they have one, lol
asciilifeform: otoh if it is in the house next to mine, i have no way of knowing it
asciilifeform: but it is quite different problem from the original thread's.
asciilifeform: if apeloyee or whoever wants to get past the tank column, mine field, etc. and demolish the receiver -- i'll clap, what.
apeloyee: most of the processing is local << if a known вредитель, that means siege. otherwise they need to exchange ~approx as much data as can be fit in spectrum. obv can't reuse the very same spectrum. hence lasers/sound/cables. can be sabotaged. them low noise receiver must cost quite some $$$.
apeloyee: sieges are generally followed by an assault, unless th3e besieged surrender; to hope otherwise is simply suicide
asciilifeform: if the enemy, on account of some internal psychosis, refrains from simply breaking in and shooting, there is plenty to do
asciilifeform: most of the processing is local
asciilifeform: everyone - no. the few thou known-вредители -- totally
apeloyee: the enemy doesn't realistically have resource to stand next to everyone. see bitcoin: can't make rewriting history impossible, lets make it unprofitable.
asciilifeform: because then you're back to the 'if they're standing next to you, you're found' item.
apeloyee: if they're sleeper stations.
asciilifeform: this is where i started in the gedankenexperiment. from there went 'why not to have the sequence per se be the information carrier'.
asciilifeform: ideally said movement would consist of large number of geographically-dispersed stations, taking turns in a sequence not known to the enemy.
apeloyee: (to the enemy)
apeloyee: but also hard to hear you over all that noise. hence my "there's a fixed number of bits you can transmit before detection, assuming given ratio of intended recipient capabilities to enemy capabilities"
asciilifeform: a block of flats, full of led bulbs, quite possible is the electrical equiv of a 10watt sw station
asciilifeform: also i suspect that 'avoid gestapo' is a very small superset of the much harder 'physically undetectable'. for example, if you pirate on an already unusably-polluted band, you would probably never Have Problems for so long as you are not distinguishable from the usual polluters ( e.g. led light bulbs and other filth )
apeloyee: you stipulated detector's across the street. can do direction finding.
apeloyee: an' if you keep sparking next to detector across the street, you will Have Problems. because have to transmit enough to rsa.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm not convinced that the problem is solvable, apeloyee may well be right. but i also remain unconvinced that it is unsolvable.
asciilifeform: go and detect the static spark i just generated. from across the room, much less street.
apeloyee: if stands across the street, will detect. forget about it.
asciilifeform: hypothetically. problem is to make a balloon stay up for any reasonable length of time, and not loudly show up on radars wherever it goes
asciilifeform: not even from standing across the street.
apeloyee: to a reasonable value, but there's probably no escape from "keep moving"
apeloyee: can just decrease the chance of detection.
asciilifeform: but my whole q was whether it is possible to do better than the 100yr state-of-the-art of 'keep moving yet transmitter and be prepared to lose it' thing
asciilifeform: i dun get how the 2 items can be separate
apeloyee: shannon-hartley theorem. max bit per watt is when you sit far below noise floor
asciilifeform: then i'ma transmit 100kW, why not
asciilifeform: if any -- then objective met
asciilifeform: so long as i can force the 2 ends of the line, to differ in such a way as to carry information
apeloyee: the transmitter disguised as motor
asciilifeform: theoretically a positional modulator with a long enough span, could cover entire planet, with a few watt.
asciilifeform: reason is so that each station can be physically indistinguishable, from outside the door, from, e.g., a defective lift motor that arcs a bit
asciilifeform: the difference is that the transmitters there physically move; but is immaterial for our purpose
apeloyee: didn't you describe a scheme for 1 transmitter? in each time interval, pick many cryptographically pseudo-random orthogonal waveforms, calculate a weighted sum, transmit. the weights encode information. can split into many transmitters in various places.
asciilifeform: 2 is the bare minimum for a working ( again conjectured, whether it could work ) item.
apeloyee: i could understand if having 2,3, 4,... transmitters progressively lowering the detection chance
asciilifeform: not the crt per se, but that apeloyee's algo doesn't leak-via-timing, or bias, or avoid some class of prime, is not (yet) obvious to asciilifeform .
apeloyee: in fact, using evil, heretical software, calculated that this tries ~6.5 times less candidates for ~2048-bit primes compared to the pick-random-odd-number
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 19:38 asciilifeform: for the initial sieve ~prior~ to miller-rabin
apeloyee: quit flipping from one opinion to another every few days
apeloyee: do miller-rabin on the results.
asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick : what's the difference ?
asciilifeform: re crt, if apeloyee thinks he has found The Formula For Primes, he should not settle for small change, oughta publish...
apeloyee: how does it make bank from the captcha ? << it's just a proof of work. it's not unknown for sci-hub to ban etire countries also.
asciilifeform: ( lemme guess, spammers pay to farm theirs ? )
asciilifeform: how does it make bank from the captcha ?
apeloyee: ......p_n are independent and uniformly distributed, then the probability of tuple of these being chosen is the same (by definition of independence), and because CRT gives a bijection, all outputs are equally likely. did I repeat myself enough?
apeloyee: ...then, by the CRT, there exists a bijection between all numbers in range [0, primorial-1] not divisible by any primes in the primorial, and the tuples of nonzero remainders from division by the primes. "numbers in range [0, primorial-1] not divisible by any primes in the primorial", obviously, includes all primes in said range (except those in the primorial). if the remainders mod 2, 3,...
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:39 asciilifeform: i believe in the arithmetic, yes. but how to show that the two conditions i stated, hold ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
apeloyee: so to recap, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722402 generates numbers in range [0, primorial-1]; it may yield a composite, but all outputs are equally likely, and all primes bigger than largest_prime_in_primorial and less than the primorial. Proof: since asciilifeform has admitted to believing in the statement of the Chinese Remainder Theorem (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733392 ),...
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 15:53 asciilifeform: 13:08 < kanzure> she wants to control the access in her own way
asciilifeform: ( why is there EVER EVEN ONE ?! )
asciilifeform: ( exercise for n00bz : show that there is ALWAYS a prime between n and 2n, for n > 1. )
asciilifeform: what ought to do instead, is to rngize the bottom Q bits, where Q is log2(estimated prime gap at the current bitness, times severalfold engineering margin)
asciilifeform: ( the koch method, of taking R and adding 2 to it until m-r says yes, trivially leaks )
asciilifeform: incidentally it can probably be shown that you don't have to throw out ALL of the bits in a candidate R, when it is not found to be prime, and still not leak anything
asciilifeform: theoretically one can connect an unlimited # of'em to pc (in practice linux kernel starts behaving oddly when more than 7 serial devices, i found )
apeloyee: "pick random" will usually yield a composite, which must then be filtered out.
apeloyee: aha, so you're ok with the method produces junk, so long as the primes in range are equidistributed?
asciilifeform: and since i built the rng, i can also be quite certain that there is not such a prime that it will forever avoid generating.
asciilifeform: i can show that no 2 inputs will produce the same prime, trivially
asciilifeform: the random-rubbish followed by probabilistic test , satisfies this demand within the obvious limits of the test.
asciilifeform: i want a method, as stated above, where inputs map one-to-one and onto, the primes , up to the register width.
apeloyee: plox to qualify. you want a method to generate Nth prime, but accept the "pick random number until prime" , despite in not being the Nth prime generator, but no other methods?
asciilifeform: but as i currently understand, my q reduces to 'find The Formula For Primes' (tm)(r), a millenium-long headache for mathematical folx , to this day unsolved.
asciilifeform: i believe in the arithmetic, yes. but how to show that the two conditions i stated, hold ?
asciilifeform: also gotta show that no prime exists , in the given bitness width, that CANNOT be chosen.
asciilifeform: in particular, gotta show that no two inputs will produce the same prime
asciilifeform: let's model the ideal prime-shitter. it would be an item that takes integer N , of whatever bitness, and produce the Nth prime ( or eggog if the Nth prime is bigger than the register bitness permitted. )
apeloyee: can't. I was sarcastic, because I don't see how CRT construction can amplify, assuming not obviously broken/backdoored RNG. why won't long-range correlations kill mthe "pick random prime" method as well?
asciilifeform: apeloyee: propose a hypothetical how ?
apeloyee: perharps running rabin-miller "amplifies small/temporary imperfections in the rng, into fatal"
asciilifeform: the other problem is that prime constructor proof may or may not fit-in-head. infineon's method probably seemed correct to various folx.
asciilifeform: the use of constructed primes, potentially amplifies small/temporary imperfections in the rng, into fatal
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 14:34 a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
apeloyee: the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733339 method, given uniformly distributed and independent remainders, generates uniformly distributed numbers modulo the primorial
asciilifeform: it is not the same exact algo, no. but it is same from my pov, in that it is NOT the 'find b-bit random R and test for primality, potentially forever, until found prime'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 14:34 a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
apeloyee: they calculated powers of 65537 modulo some primorial
asciilifeform: apeloyee: q was re the effect of composite exponent
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu's original point was correct, you do NOT want a small d -- but neither you want a small e, or obviously n, or ANYTHING small
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/tmsr-rsa-spec-extremely-early-draft/#comment-123474 so there.
asciilifeform: 'Further computations were consistent with the guess that p and q were being generated as powers of 65537 modulo L, where L was either the product of all primes through 691, or the product of all primes through 701.'
asciilifeform: any method of 'constructing' primes , rather than hunting for wild, is guilty until proven innocent of 1) constriction 2) bias
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 05:59 jurov: "The flaw resides in the Infineon-developed RSA Library version v1.02.013, specifically within an algorithm it implements for RSA primes generation. "
asciilifeform: in other lullies, bernstein exposes the item the original 'authors' sat on in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1725945 >>> https://blog.cr.yp.to/20171105-infineon.html
mircea_popescu: wait, wrong decade. it's not the 1990s anymore!
mircea_popescu: heh. i think quantum computing was abandoned because it was discovered it leaked CFC gasses which are bad for the ozone layer
shinohai: You may remember Vitalik from other great books such as "How to run a quantum computing scam to raise capital for a crypto scam" and "Dress like a furfag and cook your own meth!"
mircea_popescu: AND OTHER SUCH NONSENSE
mircea_popescu: it's important to be creative in any case. they can produce more eth at any time, but the experience was valuable.
davout: according to unverified hearsay it seems that ~1% of the total mEth supply got accidentally'd
davout: or maybe they'll grow used to having Ctrl+Z as a thing
davout: who knows, maybe that leads to an "Ethereum Classic 2"
davout: "This means that currently no funds can be moved out of the multi-sig wallets."