mircea_popescu: "bitch, you call me to a meeting i fail to return from, there's 10`000 rockets per square kilometer that take to flight. better hope they all miss, unless you're prepared to live in ruins-of-riyadh"
mircea_popescu: incredible fucktards though, argued with the dude all summer long, had no missile-acre at the ready ?
BingoBoingo: Well, the Saudis aren't the Turks. They have oil and their borders are protected by hot sand. Turks are surrounded and have the Mediterranian's back door in their face.
mircea_popescu: as it is, next in the queue is plaintive missive from mohammed bin salman about how "he was tricked" and "teh deliveries didn;t live up to promises" in a few months/years/whatever.
mircea_popescu: sooner or later the dorks will understand that until/unless burned down us "embassy" / all ustards coming in detained and shot, there won't be peace.
mircea_popescu: nah, moar like failure of orange revolution ("teh people matter, and here's a buncha dorky chicks fresh from usg "criminology" studies going topless hurr durr) had dept of blue usg move to white revolution ("teh people dun matter, here's kings-youngest-son being totally the true lost tsarevich!!!"). in this case the local pretext for legitimacy is that 32yo princelet.
mircea_popescu: (fwiw marriott still reports their ryadh carlton not available for check-in. sounds moar like nationalization than anything)
mircea_popescu: there's conservation rules afoot in teh universe, and the web isn't going to produce an increase of information ; it provides a fraction of what you put in back and no more.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-06 20:01 hanbot: <asciilifeform> in other lulz, https://archive.is/UVcTG >> 'reports of death of yet another Saudi prince' << meanwhile i was reading this morning "riadyh ritz-carlton now detention center for saudi royals", (http://archive.is/p7KPc), but tuned out when "evidence" seemed to consist of "booking websites" not having rooms available.
mircea_popescu: ie there WAS a hdd price issue after asian floods, but if you searched... much like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-06#1733268
mircea_popescu: the web doesn't keep up with pricing issues in this sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just what the bolix wanted huh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's amazing how you old point "everything costs the same everywhere" is holding true.
asciilifeform: they built a sort of xray crystallography rig, for ~intact~ ic.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform, It's a concert. Just enjoy the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell phf tyvm, moving blockindex.dat over the local network fixed the issue. More nand for the burn pile.
asciilifeform: and i'll disagree that a q re how specifically one might go about taking back telecom sovereignty from the fiatists, is necessarily a wank.
asciilifeform: ( or at any rate refuted, and can then link to refutation when asciilifeform is long dead and some other d00d asks 'hey wai not shortwave relays' etc )
asciilifeform: will quietly live in the l0gz until possibly useful.
mircea_popescu: for someone who can't even tetris, what's with all the wank anyway ?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 13:38 asciilifeform: to wind it up, the casks algo is asciilifeform's attempt at the 'high vacuum pump' from earlier -- to get the max possible removal of something-to-allcomers element , to the extent possible without running an entirely closed wotronic system (and consequently turning into visa or swift)
asciilifeform: possibly 'hey they've transmitted blocks on time, unkillably, for years, and now they're auctioning slots!' might do it.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 19:17 mircea_popescu: also support is not sought, i don't think, if by support you mean manpower as opposed to you know, cooling. (if the latter, there's really 0 interest in a "best effort dc / someone's house".)
asciilifeform: ( i could be wrong -- there could be demand. would mircea_popescu personally pay to transmit something ? how much would pay ? but who else would..? )
asciilifeform: the real boojum, i suspect, is that there is ~0 demand for anything of this kind, while the net still works ( propped up as it may be by fiatolism )
asciilifeform: ( i suppose one approach to (1) is 'buyer must be in the l1 of a repeater operator'. and possibly it is the only possible approach. but it does turn the thing from 'build it and they will come' into something like 'must push the dope' , and prolly makes whole thing unviable )
asciilifeform: principal headaches, afaik are 1) how to get payload from the buyer to the seller to begin with 2) how to settle dispute re performance ( e.g. 'you said you tx'd, but over on mauritus nobody got the signal' etc )
asciilifeform: ( but possibly this devolves into the scheme described by mircea_popescu much earlier . )
asciilifeform: betcha auctioning the bandwidth (supposing you're already in the 'fortressing' business and have the tower) is moar +ev, joule-per-joule , than mining.
asciilifeform: e.g. 'send coin to addr A, then wotpaste payload signed with originator addr, and yer 64kB chunk is on the air within 24hrs or we send coin back. signed, yours, kim chen ir'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 08:37 mircea_popescu: that the fucktards stubbornly refuse to do it speaks to the fucktards' utterly incredible fucktardation, not to how hard it is to get.
asciilifeform: incidentally re : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735809 << e.g. pyongyang, or teheran, or any other 'fortress' could easily make btc by transmitting arbitrary bits on shortwave, for coin
asciilifeform: 'The signal has a very subtle sound and, if not for the 3-click/delay format, would be indistinguishable from nature's own spark transmitter, distant lighting.'
asciilifeform: '...storage capacitor holds 0.2 watt-seconds of energy... about 90%, 720,000 peak watts, delivered to the antenna... might be heard world-wide, but I don't know that for a fact... while total power in the pulses might be impressive, it's an extremely wideband signal - much less power is present on any particular, say 5 kHz, channel. In other words, the sparker is sending a very crude form of spread spectrum'
mircea_popescu: in other minutia, i'm holding up this well worn pair of cuffs, with red candlewax stains, and i'm thinking.... didn't i buy some pink candles too ?
asciilifeform: ( link in the l0gz somewhere )
asciilifeform: on the shitcoin markets, a 'fork token' or what was it, denominated in heathenbux, fell from 1000s to 100, but then repumped
asciilifeform: pictured item appears to be 'phorq uncancelled!' then few hrs later 'haha, idjits'
mircea_popescu: the what ?
asciilifeform: i can picture the wagner, the cyanide, of the handful of gullible folx. might explain the 'back to 300' last night.
asciilifeform: 'We just forked the website ! We didn't mean to fork Bitcoin, thats a lot of work ;)'
mircea_popescu: yeah. /me and the tree of wisdom.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, isn't that one of the better headers ?
asciilifeform: oh hah there's at least 1 actual building in cr !
mircea_popescu: if the dumb shoe fits...
asciilifeform: then indeed i have nfi
mircea_popescu: if neighbour's excavator grinds my azaleas, ima not gonna scream at the ~operator~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but who was managing them ?
asciilifeform: ( and i must sadly note, they will ~continue~ to ship with FG units, unless someone wants to suggest a different chip )
mircea_popescu: so this is the whole point here, asciilifeform : the "obvious why it's enjoyable" is this retroconstructive subjective conceit. no, it's not fucking obvious. at all. why would you think it is.
mircea_popescu: just like if you're still wetting the bed by blair's years.
mircea_popescu: youth somewhat compensates, but if you're still doing it past your 20s there's mental retardation involved.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 19:21 asciilifeform: russian blogger, circa '04: 'have you ever beaten a man? had you done so, you would know that it is hard work. no less arduous than turning a meat-grinder. how often do you wake up to the urge to crank a meat-grinder? every day?'
mircea_popescu: spolier : /me spent youth doing ~equivalent, it's incredibly fucking tedious. not specifically "wallets", but, load up car with weaponry and decisive men, visit rural "disco club", scandalously hit on "their" gals.
asciilifeform: sure, but at least it is clear how beating folx on the street with a club and taking their wallets might be enjoyable
mircea_popescu: understand something : the petty criminal holding you up didn't "find it necessary". petty crime comes with built-in, very lowly set high-pass filter. you have to be THIS fucking dumb to think petty crime is a productive use of your time, and consequently the bar for "necessity" isn't anywhere close to mathematical rigour.
asciilifeform: the '64bitness' is red herring, my 16550 uarts worked ok under msdos 5 and work just same today
asciilifeform: what isn't clear to me tho is why the perpetrator found it necessary to commit this atrocity
asciilifeform: 'The PL-2303X has the same vendor ID and product ID as the older PL-2303, which means that it will be incorrectly detected as a PL-2303 by the driver currently in the Linux kernel. Attempting to use a PL-2303X as a PL-2303 simply results in an inability to transfer data through the serial port. In other words, nothing happens.'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:11 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735837 << boys go to war or go away ; also, nobody asks you to sell your bitcoin. sell the worthless things, such as tits, not the valuable things.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735903 << ftr asciilifeform has never yet sold ( in the trade-for-fiatolade sense ) any qty of bitcoin .
asciilifeform: tangentially, asciilifeform has this strong recollection of reading a version where xerx whipped the sea ~as a psyop~, and meanwhile had men crossing elsewhere. but i can't seem to find this in herodotus. so where was it ?
asciilifeform: dunno, people - esp. the very dim -- have quite strong ability to 'animate the inanimate' and e.g. declare 'war on $substance' etc
mircea_popescu: which is why being hated and the force of gravity don't elicit the same emotional response in humans.
mircea_popescu: ("washing off" here has a very strict art meaning -- "i'm the object, not the subject" is the strongest psychological defense yet devised by the human brain.)
mircea_popescu: worse. it's always better to be raped than trapped, the former washes off.
mircea_popescu: the low level problem of just how idiotically superficial her arguments were paling in comparison to the incomprehensible levels of confusion involved in "i'll fix amphora, problem with it is that it has a hole" and other fundamental miscomprehensions of function.
asciilifeform: iirc it was Framedragger with the hard
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that mysticalname whatsherface chick from tor that trinque has a hard-on on at some point wrote a "scholarly" (in the wikitardia sense of the term) article about how girl armor displayed in mmorpgs and bad hbo franchises "wouldn't work".
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, engaging in a "fixing" of the nature of "cut branch underfoot" is a very strong signal of idiocy.
mircea_popescu: well, good thing the "feminist" retards that don't understand anything ABOUT ANYTHING! (paging here Framedragger ) "fixed" the problem of girl armor in cc-mmorpgs!
mircea_popescu: the part that's incomprehensible is why the fuck the content-consumption mmorpg isn't all about tits
mircea_popescu: (play is VERY different from content consumption, the latter is a bovine activity well suited to philosophers and girls of room temp iq while the former is the principal activity of the kitten.)
mircea_popescu: for the purely visual, "let's play movie" non-game content-consuming thing.
asciilifeform: ( fwiw asciilifeform never played 'normal' mmporgs , but has a vague notion that even there, people eventually made bots )
mircea_popescu: there's a lot to be yet said on the mystical value of rsa. take a "prime" - purely mystical concept, it literally means "was not seen before, virginal." "repetitions can not FOR THAT REASON ever be prime" and so on.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735853 << eulora is a very different kind of game ; not wow at all. it's not cocaine for the clickchicken, keep it glued to the screen clucking away ; it's amphetamine for the thinker, "shit how to make a bot that properly does this".
asciilifeform: aa lol this is the mirrorolade thing again
mircea_popescu: ^ incidentally not idle number theory question
mircea_popescu: "which is the count of repetitions before string x becomes prime number"
mircea_popescu: iirc there was an isprime implemented, now i'm curious re 13371337 and similarily appended-1337-strings whether prime or not
asciilifeform: sorta like the vanity btc addrs thing.
asciilifeform: anyway i agree with mircea_popescu , there is no reason to have any of this in the moving gears. who wants a 'text commented e', can take his text, find nextprime(text) himself in such a way that it still human-reads, and use that.
asciilifeform: ( if your e is already prime, nothing interesting happens. but if someone insists of making a text 'part of the key', he can stuff it into the e )
asciilifeform: this would let whoever wants put 'hello world' etc as the e. and if do not want, to do exactly same thing we already discussed.
asciilifeform: actually , the way i'd implement the thing , is to not change the format in any way, other than a condition that 1) e can be any 4096b string 2) but if it fails m-r, nextprime(e) is used as e
asciilifeform: if ~not~ hashing, then it theoretically meets the condition ( for so long as the comment is permitted to be binary garbage if it wants )
asciilifeform: well specifically then
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:39 asciilifeform: also gotta show that no prime exists , in the given bitness width, that CANNOT be chosen.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:38 asciilifeform: in particular, gotta show that no two inputs will produce the same prime
mircea_popescu: it is part of the moving parts, "there is a hole here". what one fills it with is his problem, but the hole is.
mircea_popescu: in any case : now that we understand the bitcoi nnoide problem, we can't be excused from implementing it like satoshi did. so : no arbitrary comment field of unspecified size "everyone has to keep" arbitrary to originator.
asciilifeform: so imho if comment is not part of the moving parts ( as in say the proposed exponent scheme above ) then there's no particular reason to mention it in the spec
asciilifeform: well anyone can attach labels to outside of the bottle in his own shelf, regardless of what gets put in the spec
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in my spec the comment in e, N, comment is arbitrary ~to storer~, not to originator.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735872 << could but why bother.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735920 << may or may not want to bother, but it does give a method of protocolically tying the comment (postage whatever) string to the pubkey , without pretense of 'self-signatures' or anything of the kind
mircea_popescu: just when i was starting to think, you know, i have a serious sex-race issue "white or mulatto but nothing else" it turns out that there exists palatable nonwhiteness.
asciilifeform: or at the very least sunburns.
asciilifeform: i also thought it was from red paste or the like
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's actually IN the pasted material; that nbits/2 , lol
mircea_popescu: convincing actor gets used ; whether convincing or not partly in public's hands.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:09 mircea_popescu: (yes, "a plea bargain" has nothing to do with justice or anything else. it is simply a contract with a theatrical company, you agree to play a role on the lowest rung. it's exactly like 1950s hollywood system signing up to be an extra. you will be... an extra... in someone else's movie... about shit that interests them.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735902 << phunphakt: the 'satanic abuse' folx are still sitting in jail.
asciilifeform: ( was outside of the pasted material )
asciilifeform: ah lol looks like diana_coman found the wtf
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:26 asciilifeform: they're, well, public. ergo could easily be , say, nextprime(commentstring)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735855 << yes, buit this is the core of the misunderstanding. "i can't even masturbate anymore, much less have a relationship". relationships aren't a sort of masturbation and eulora isn't a sort of tetris.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:12 asciilifeform: when i sit to play a game, it feels like dereliction of duty, with, e.g., ffa yet undone, dulap not yet replaces, scintollator rng not complete, 9000 other processes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735853 << eulora is a very different kind of game ; not wow at all. it's not cocaine for the clickchicken, keep it glued to the screen clucking away ; it's amphetamine for the thinker, "shit how to make a bot that properly does this".
mircea_popescu: if you look in the reports, for instance, http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-july-august-2017-statement/#footnote_1_74351 that's 1.2576509 players gained that month.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735846 << as a forinstance : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-08-07.log.html#t03:03:56 iirc he evaluated it at 5 to 10 btc due to market values of items, is a post somewhere on his blog ; historically the largest pop was something like 180mn ecu, ie 1.8 btc and it didn't take 1/10 that.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735810 << this isnt any sadder than , e.g., the 5 whole coinz asciilifeform lost in the alphago thing. or the infamous toyota, etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735842 << substantially different. you could have also won. they -- CAN NOT. it's not "oh, i have a choice between republic and mundane life". there is no possible result from mundane life.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 13:56 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735807 << lol not everybody has titz ( and some have already fired theirs !1)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735837 << boys go to war or go away ; also, nobody asks you to sell your bitcoin. sell the worthless things, such as tits, not the valuable things.
mircea_popescu: (yes, "a plea bargain" has nothing to do with justice or anything else. it is simply a contract with a theatrical company, you agree to play a role on the lowest rung. it's exactly like 1950s hollywood system signing up to be an extra. you will be... an extra... in someone else's movie... about shit that interests them.)
mircea_popescu: don't join the politruks, don't have politruk problems later on. also, http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735834 << hey, sometimes the obvious bears repeating.
mircea_popescu: which works about as well as anything else they do.
mircea_popescu: and the very naive idea that sort of mind comes to is that "if i deny labels to realities i don't like they'll not exist".
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 10:14 diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know
diana_coman: will collect full data set on this proper too and then see what it shows exactly
asciilifeform: i'ma think, over cup of tea, re why the diff
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:26 asciilifeform: they're, well, public. ergo could easily be , say, nextprime(commentstring)
asciilifeform: the different from last experiment, part.
diana_coman: the rsa is same as last time
diana_coman: I looked through the relevant mpi part but I can't say I get it to that degree to be able to figure this out
asciilifeform: paste the code ?
asciilifeform: or any other user-controlled field .
asciilifeform: they're, well, public. ergo could easily be , say, nextprime(commentstring)
asciilifeform: ( gpg-mpi's mod exp doesnt do anything special with composite exponents, that would automatically speed the op )
asciilifeform: did you actually factor the nonprime e, to crtize ?
asciilifeform: the ratios
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that sounds rather like what you would expect, neh
diana_coman: will write it up properly and publish the whole thing these days but this is first glance at it so feel free to comment
diana_coman: in other news: data collection on rsa with random co-prime e and then with random prime e almost ready; at first glance on co-prime encryption:decryption times are as expected approx 4:1 (crt); with prime e the ratio is more like 2:1
diana_coman: eh, eulora play means 15 minutes per day deciding what to do and giving task to bot; but I get the idea, I'm not pushing it on anyone really
diana_coman: asciilifeform, funny enough I'd say the chief complaint is precisely that "it's not mmorpg as we know it"
asciilifeform: when i sit to play a game, it feels like dereliction of duty, with, e.g., ffa yet undone, dulap not yet replaces, scintollator rng not complete, 9000 other processes
asciilifeform: i'll concede that eulora apparently does yield nonzero coin, for someody. but i must also admit that, tho i respect the work of diana_coman , mircea_popescu , et al, i dun particularly digest mmporgs ( or even play much game at all any moar )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc several people exchanged their ecu for btc and cashed out though no idea how much it was exactly (they usually come in with "will make whole coin!!!111 won't quit!!!" and then crash out of it a few days later)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, eulora is a way to get btc; no tits required either
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 08:38 mircea_popescu: whole generation of stupid cunts will have to explain to their granddaughters, "and then in 2017 i was a cretin and missed on the opportunity to make 2 bitcents writing on my ugly ass tits nobody cares about, and that's why you can't have your private island. o look, barrista break's over, back to work"\
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735810 << this isnt any sadder than , e.g., the 5 whole coinz asciilifeform lost in the alphago thing. or the infamous toyota, etc
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 07:14 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730037 << am i the only 1 for whom spending btc feels moar like selling organs than spending money, tho
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735807 << lol not everybody has titz ( and some have already fired theirs !1)
asciilifeform: tho there was that one chix with the cartoon, who was sacked from her job as... cachier ? ( whatever happened to her )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 09:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735724 <<< that's not the important part. the important part is that the whole population of libertards, feminists etcetera could accuse you or i all day long, shittington post will... print 0.
asciilifeform: it definitely had the pre-usgization keccak gold standard. can generate tests from this.
diana_coman: hopefully still them, will see
diana_coman: in other things: I have been playing around with keccak and in particular with PeterL's ada implementation; as far as I can see it conforms to Version 3.0 keccak reference but I'm not sure re testing; any known test vectors for it? (the test vectors on current keccak's site seem to be for sha3)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, myeah; ftr I opened them to look but - as expected - not much to see
asciilifeform: not only the driver thing, but even the plastic shells come apart when handled one too many times; the sockets come off the wires; etc
asciilifeform: must've happened long ago -- all of my gentoo boxen work with the ttl snakes
diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know
diana_coman: n it is "new" pl2303x; *newer* linux will work because basically they have been adapted to the idiocy so they check and adapt
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 00:58 asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug )
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735788 <- I don't really see how it is linux' fault here; so prolific used to make the pl2303 and old linux worked fine with it and still does; THEN they (or chinese cheap copies dunno) made a DIFFERENT thing pl2303x that has however the same serial id and everything so you can't distinguish between them before plugging them in pretty much; and so yes, old linux won't work because it sees it as pl2303 whe
mircea_popescu: sooner or later, yes they will fuck you over. it's definitional.
mircea_popescu: so no, it isn't about accusations. it's about the implicit vulnerability of being pantsuit.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 23:07 asciilifeform: it isn't about 'accusations', you or i could accuse all day long and they will print 0
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735724 <<< that's not the important part. the important part is that the whole population of libertards, feminists etcetera could accuse you or i all day long, shittington post will... print 0.
mircea_popescu: which of course they'll pretend like they don't have to do then, just like they pretended they don't have to do now.
mircea_popescu: whole generation of stupid cunts will have to explain to their granddaughters, "and then in 2017 i was a cretin and missed on the opportunity to make 2 bitcents writing on my ugly ass tits nobody cares about, and that's why you can't have your private island. o look, barrista break's over, back to work"\
mircea_popescu: that the fucktards stubbornly refuse to do it speaks to the fucktards' utterly incredible fucktardation, not to how hard it is to get.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 23:00 asciilifeform: do you , personally care , ben_vulpes , which muppet 'withdraws' and is replaced by which other muppet ?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Uruguay datacenter is offering to help petition to get IPs assigned through LACNIC
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later tell cruciform <+cruciform> asciilifeform: something like "sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove gcc-5" ? << This ~ought~ to work. However, it's been a while since I had to do all of these gyrations myself. Please let me know if you need help on this, I'll do what I can. Salud.
mod6: !~later tell cruciform <+cruciform> asciilifeform: something like "sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove gcc-5" ? << This ~ought~ to work. However, it's been a while since I had to do all of these gyrations myself. Please let me know if you need help on this, I'll do what I can. Salud.
asciilifeform: cruciform: the colours on your cable may not match exactly the traditional one; in that case look up which wire is rx, which - +5v, which - ground.
asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug )
cruciform: asciilifeform: thanks! will do. In other matters, is this the correct kinda cable for a FG? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Programming-Serial-Windows-Supported/dp/B01N4X3BJB/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1510275254&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=ttl+cable&psc=1
asciilifeform: cruciform: at least 1 person here knows the answer to this, you might want to check back later.
shinohai: ya know i think ive forgotten *how* to do this the debian away
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:40 erlehmann: i don't get the hate against optimizing c compilers at all
asciilifeform: ( unless yer a gentoo virtuoso and can have 9000 compilers safely co-exist. otherwise, kill. it. with. fire. )
asciilifeform: and i mean, all of it. no gcc5 on the box anywhere.
asciilifeform: oh you're the uk fella
asciilifeform: to be fair, some of the screaming ugliness is on account of the tangle of arithmetic chips they were stuck using.
asciilifeform: in other olds, http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/genera/distribution/sys/sys2/bignum.lisp << ( and yes it is on the cd ) >> quite sad bignum stack imho
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 23:08 ben_vulpes: dontcha know, asciilifeform ? demanding proof is just the patriarchy working to oppress women, keep their allegations quiet.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735725 <<< as usual the french did it before it became mainstream
asciilifeform: aside from the 'validation chamber' or what was it, in hanbot's gulag story
asciilifeform: validate their lived experience << lel
ben_vulpes: allll you gotta do is find a further out-there minority or 'oppressed person', and everyone will race to validate their lived experience. trend has been towards this for years, don't know how you don't see it.
asciilifeform: 'hey let's all use centrally-controlled faux wot, what could be the down side'
asciilifeform: 'Verification was meant to authenticate identity & voice but it is interpreted as an endorsement or an indicator of importance," Twitter said in a tweet announcing its decision to pause the verification program. "We recognize that we have created this confusion and need to resolve it. We have paused all general verifications while we work and will report back soon.'
ben_vulpes: times and wapo etc now quiver in fear of not being fast enough on the trigger with the allegations.
ben_vulpes: when the pantsuit controlled twitter and instagram, this might have been so
asciilifeform: when the blessedly anointed accuse. when evil terrorist -- not worth mention
ben_vulpes: dontcha know, asciilifeform ? demanding proof is just the patriarchy working to oppress women, keep their allegations quiet.
asciilifeform: it isn't about 'accusations', you or i could accuse all day long and they will print 0
asciilifeform: so you publish dirt on 3 muppets, 4th, on whom you were not able to find any, wins. where's the win from this from your pov ?
asciilifeform: not sure i see the parallel
ben_vulpes: who would ever pay a dollar in ddos to cost someone ten, while on the topic
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, 'which senator' matters approx the same amount as 'which wrestler'
ben_vulpes: promise from nobody worth nothing, promise backed by the republic worth more than anything dnc can ever offer.
ben_vulpes: who would be dumb enough to blow btc emplacing $box at $location either
asciilifeform: do you , personally care , ben_vulpes , which muppet 'withdraws' and is replaced by which other muppet ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: again who would be dumb enough to blow btc on this ? and who dumb enough to believe in the promise of btc for this
ben_vulpes: nah asciilifeform moar like "step forward with allegations against $senator, get btc if they withdraw. first 5 to <strike>draw on their tits</strike> get documented media exposure get a bitcent
mircea_popescu: the national bird of costa rica is some kind of thrush. he's splendid, bright yellow and things. and his call is like teep-te-deep. teep-teep.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 22:21 ben_vulpes: now that the washington post has enshrined the notion that allegations are sufficient to disqualify candidates from races in america, how long d'you figure it'll take before the bitcoin bounties for allegations leading to exit of democrats from campaigns crops up?
mircea_popescu: in other news, i just had a conversation with a bird.
ben_vulpes: clearly the women are winning!
trinque: "be the change you want to see" !
ben_vulpes: now that the washington post has enshrined the notion that allegations are sufficient to disqualify candidates from races in america, how long d'you figure it'll take before the bitcoin bounties for allegations leading to exit of democrats from campaigns crops up?
mircea_popescu: everyone else, either has it or knows where to get it.
shinohai: Nah they fucked that up
mircea_popescu: "who the fuck would rub penis scent on himself ?" "a woman" "and who else ?"
mircea_popescu: in other strangely related insane nonsense, https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/tom%20ford%20penis.jpg
asciilifeform: ( i suspect a europistani root there, but nfi from whom specifically it came )
mircea_popescu: "she's no longer hot! why does she have an abdominal fold ??" "cuz she's a woman" "that's not what i saw on bangbros" "yes, well, they only film some angles"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one allah keeps in his fate compartment for him, da fuck do i know. the problem with masturbators is that the imago must not gain carnality.
mircea_popescu: the pinnacle of this being that at one point in the subway -- gender segregated, you get it ? -- we got in the first car (women only!!) which made the gals chuckle and teh guys get REALLY bothered, one car over.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "uber repressive" society i had no problem checking out the women's tits while they breastfed, as an act of public intimacy, to not discuss private intimacy. cuz i DIDN'T ask -- not their "owner" males, and generally no one.
asciilifeform: the one kept in spare tyre compartment ? or where
asciilifeform: lol, 'hey we like the same type of pie, yes you can borrow my chix' ?!
mircea_popescu: nope, not at all. more like "what bands do you like", in the transparently/invisible hopes that if got right, who knows, maybe has a chance IN A DISTANT AND ABSENT FUTURE
mircea_popescu: get this : arab 30yos with no wealth (sheep, camels, women) and no prospects, fascinated by eg chet (happenstantially i was the definitive arab world aspirational immage, young man with older white woman in tow) talked TO ME about it. not to her.
asciilifeform: from same rag, 'The man accused of tackling Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and breaking his ribs as he was mowing his lawn pleaded not guilty on Thursday to a misdemeanor assault charge, a court official said.'
mircea_popescu: because whatever, "his daddy';s not rich enough". honey we can't afford another kid, as if THAT is how it goes.
mircea_popescu: girls there put out ~on par with any other girls ; but the future terrorist DOES NOT ASK because, just like every other eventual elliot, DOES NOT PERCEIVE he might.
mircea_popescu: weird, cuz the majority of terrorists are beta male rejects in their originating society.