1932600;1567202850;asciilifeform;see, 257 bytes
1932601;1567202898;diana_coman;uhm, why?
1932602;1567202928;asciilifeform;gotta use full url w/ chan, to get the page. curl normally doesn't walk 301 ( there's a toggle but i fughot )
1932603;1567202952;diana_coman;hm
1932604;1567202977;diana_coman;the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log is as earlier so visibly slow though not sure why
1932605;1567202989;asciilifeform;diana_coman: look in reader.py to see why, i made it default to selected chan ( for if folx want to substitute it for phf's on their blogs )
1932606;1567203053;diana_coman;here, using asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BQ6Lp/?raw=true
1932607;1567203069;asciilifeform;this loox proper.
1932608;1567203122;diana_coman;asciilifeform: ah, you mean that curl doesn't follow the redirect, right.
1932609;1567203124;asciilifeform;diana_coman: from where loaded ?
1932610;1567203132;asciilifeform;britain ?
1932611;1567203134;diana_coman;asciilifeform: uk, reading
1932612;1567203136;diana_coman;yes
1932613;1567203138;asciilifeform;aa ok
1932614;1567203150;asciilifeform;then looks entirely like i expect.
1932615;1567208517;BingoBoingo;In local WTF https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/como-seran-las-estaciones-con-wifi-cargador-de-celular-y-agua-caliente-anunciadas-por-la-imm-2019830154440
1932616;1567208582;BingoBoingo;The clear understandable part is the hot water. They need that for their Mate pipes
1932617;1567221737;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 592494 atm.
1932618;1567221760;BingoBoingo;592530 here
1932619;1567222457;asciilifeform;trinque: iirc you had some box in asia -- consider to put logger there. the moar, the merrier.
1932620;1567222608;asciilifeform;i expect the load times will tell us something interesting, just as before.
1932621;1567222663;asciilifeform;( and when we teach'em to talk to each other -- then can kiss goodbye to fleanode... )
1932622;1567222719;asciilifeform;will be lulzy if we even end up with bigger net than fleanode, simply from the junk boxen people ~already~ have.
1932623;1567230188;lobbes;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932253 << congrats diana_coman! I tip my hat to your beating me to the finish line
1932624;1567230188;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-30 12:06:34 diana_coman: yeeeee, works and test-live at logs.ossasepia.com (185.163.46.29)
1932625;1567230228;lobbes;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932255 << updated [http://lobbesblog.com/static/tmsr_bot_directory.html][bot directory] with ossabot
1932626;1567230229;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-30 12:07:47 diana_coman: name's ossabot so can haz !o maybe?
1932627;1567230401;lobbes;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932283 << I do understand the 'spammy-ness' of it; perhaps could have two commands: a !Qlater chan and !Qlater pm
1932628;1567230401;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-30 12:36:27 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932106 << what, the later tell delivery ?
1932629;1567230405;lobbes;but this is one of those "no real need to solve today" problems imo. Can sit on it a while
1932630;1567230740;lobbes;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932520 << ftr, THE thing that helped me the most in the last month was removing a broken homefront partnership from my life. My saltmine job (as an "excel jockey") has remained the same for the last 4 years
1932631;1567230743;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-30 15:34:08 asciilifeform: mod6: talk with lobbes , he seems to have made progress escaping his.
1932632;1567230755;lobbes;Note, too, that my saltmine right now IS a "9-5", only I lucked out finding one that a) "pays well" and b) I don't, actually, work a full "9-5". I'm bezzling the bezzle, in a sense
1932633;1567230867;lobbes;(while this lasts, of course. The 'sword of damocle' hangs over ALL of us still sucking blood from the reich, "9-5" or no.)
1932634;1567230929;lobbes;s/sucking blood from the reich/*depending on* the reich to suck blood from/
1932635;1567231085;lobbes;mod6: take it from me, please, the best thing I ever did was start blogging/writing things down/*expressing* myself. Only through this kind of reflection (and by this I mean analyzing the reasoning you used in the past for action and analyzing your reasoning for future action), and through the critical eye of others can that fog even start to clear
1932636;1567231127;lobbes;in other words, make a post my friend. If anything I'll read it and comment
1932637;1567231162;lobbes;annd I'm off to bed. Got LAMP stack up on heathen server yesterday; tomorrow gonna try logotron proper
1932638;1567241359;diana_coman;http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932624 -> thanks for posting the versions that worked on your testbed, they saved a lot of futzing around!
1932639;1567242977;mircea_popescu;keks, no moar "parliament". only took 1k or so years, the albiontards are slow.
1932640;1567243561;mircea_popescu;trinque, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930944 << never went. do you see it somewheres ?
1932641;1567243561;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-25 09:31:14 mircea_popescu: !!withdraw  0.09776 1KQ6jRPaa9RneTYMppJiMCsd1RqMeQM8H
1932642;1567243594;mircea_popescu;http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932308 << thick.
1932643;1567243594;snsabot;Logged on 2019-08-30 13:12:44 asciilifeform: wai which is
1932644;1567265614;trinque;mircea_popescu: didn't get a !!v for that one
1932645;1567271998;asciilifeform;diana_coman: i noticed that your [http://logs.ossasepia.com/static/log_db.gz][db snapshot link] dun go yet. [http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/80IQ2/?raw=true][here is example, how mine worx]. and [http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/v89TR/?raw=true][here is the crontab]. can adjust paths for yours.
1932646;1567272091;asciilifeform;these will go in the 'readme' at next patch.
1932647;1567272241;diana_coman;asciilifeform: thank you; I haven't yet set the cron jobs, yes; will do it later today.
1932648;1567272304;asciilifeform;if next patch is diana_coman's -- invited to put in cron etc.
1932649;1567275367;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: power supply (w/ nominally jp caps) for rk plant, bought
1932650;1567275789;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: ty
1932651;1567275849;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: my original plan included a serial-controlled relay board for rebooting individual rk. but nao thinking, just how often anyone asked to reboot ? do we need this ?
1932652;1567275910;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: I can't remember reboot requests for the rockchips that didn't involve disk swaps
1932653;1567275925;asciilifeform;rright, and the thing will still have to be slid out an' opened to swap
1932654;1567275947;asciilifeform;so i'ma omit the relays ( granted the 1u flat setup will be considerably easier to swap pieces in, than in old plant )
1932655;1567275969;asciilifeform;i.e. nomoar 'towers of hanoi'
1932656;1567276134;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: item will actually slide, given as will have only 2 wires going to it (mains & 1 ethernet) and not 15
1932657;1567276202;BingoBoingo;Very nice. is there going to be space in the case for FUCKGOATS, 2.5" SSD's etc
1932658;1567276237;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 4 pads for FG ( could moar, but could interfere with air )
1932659;1567276250;BingoBoingo;asciilifeform: Aite
1932660;1567276254;asciilifeform;and 2 2.5" ssd
1932661;1567276325;asciilifeform;the primary win of closed 1u chassis for rk is proper, civilized forced air
1932662;1567276378;asciilifeform;presently i blame 100% of the headaches in pilot plant, on lack of proper air
1932663;1567276406;BingoBoingo;Well, lack of proper air and original plastic insulated USD disks
1932664;1567276419;asciilifeform;even these, i suspect, would've lived 4x longer w/ air.
1932665;1567276501;BingoBoingo;Maybe, but there just wasn't more than 5 to 10-ish square mm of metal surface exposed on them for air to do much heat exchanging
1932666;1567276517;asciilifeform;tru
1932667;1567276830;BingoBoingo;And it looks like we have consecutive days of TRB constipation 592597 has yet to enter the canon
1932668;1567276944;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: yest.'s episode cemented in my head the insufficiency of my orig. 'aggression' patch. i strongly suspect The Right Thing is some variant of ben's. with the orig., node eats 5-10 blox when connects to trb peers on restart, then the connections stable and gets nomoar for hours. whereas on ea. restart, in facts gets the 5-10.
1932669;1567277002;asciilifeform;( iirc in ben_vulpes's variant, 'if no block for 10min+, milk all peers' )
1932670;1567277026;BingoBoingo;Well, I just restarted one ~15 minutes ago. Has yet to pull the missing block.
1932671;1567277051;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: 'can only pull rabbit from hat if rabbit is in fact in the hat'(tm)
1932672;1567277060;BingoBoingo;Indeed
1932673;1567277095;asciilifeform;i was speaking specifically of 'i ~know~ these people have x, so why do i only get x-10,x-9,... when connecting to'em and then nuffin' )
1932674;1567277298;asciilifeform;the correct frequency with which situation 'trb node a is at height H, its peer trb node b is at H-k, for hour+' oughta happen, is ~never~
1932675;1567277393;BingoBoingo;I'm suspecting a lot of nodes on the intermediate PRB version numbers 0.8, 0.9, etc before peer-to-peer pki-ism are falling enough that we may have few bridges allowing communication between prb and trb
1932676;1567277445;asciilifeform;before considering any such horror, rly oughta fix propagation b/w trb !!
1932677;1567277484;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: and fwiw i suspect that the entire set of >7 nodes is 100% solid dross, and responsible for 0 block conveyance
1932678;1567277557;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: think, this is elementary. as soon as they issue a 'bloomism' or similar cmd to a trb node -- they get malleus'd. and yet we still get blox in realtime for 6-7 months at a stretch.
1932679;1567277634;asciilifeform;( moreover, they issue it -- and get the ban -- a few msec after connecting. ergo they are responsible for 0 brought blox, and in fact we gain 0 from talking to them )
1932680;1567277716;asciilifeform;to formalize : asciilifeform's current hypothesis is that there is a thin 'tube' of trb-compat. nodes b/w pekin & trb orchestra. responsible for 100% of new blox.
1932681;1567277767;asciilifeform;whereas the 4000 or however many pseudonodes making up the claimed heathen net -- simply get in the way.
1932682;1567277806;asciilifeform;currently i lack the tools with which to solidly prove or refute this hypothesis. but fwiw have not yet encountered any clue which would contradict it.
1932683;1567277909;asciilifeform;the most helpful currently unavailable tool would be a troo and honest survey of publicly-reachable nodes of erry type. ( via port scan of ipv4 and subsequent interrogation , by properly-written proggy. )
1932684;1567277916;asciilifeform;atm no one has the hands for this, sadly.
1932685;1567277987;asciilifeform;currently 0 is publicly known re the actual state of the net ( the heathen 'survey' www's are ~disinfo~, they deliberately conceal specifically the nodes we are interested in. )
1932686;1567278212;asciilifeform;will add : survey of public nodez will also tell us something re the nonpublic ( unless the folx talking to these, took deliberate care to modify their public noad to avoid listing'em in the disgorged peer table )
1932687;1567278346;asciilifeform;iirc past coupla yrs of prb won't even give peers table. but i'm not interested so much in what prb nodes have to say to begin with.
1932688;1567278477;asciilifeform;... cuz they fucking aint nodes. they're enemy outputs that do strictly as little 'node-ing' as can get away with and still dupe idiots into operating.
1932689;1567278485;asciilifeform;*outposts
1932690;1567278701;BingoBoingo;Generally that is the object to allowing weeds to thrive. They choke out everything else.
1932691;1567278876;asciilifeform;some subset of chinese are almost certainly tuned into prb net specifically to collect that delish candy of eventually-unwindable 'pay-anyone' segshit tx.
1932692;1567278880;asciilifeform;some subset -- not.
1932693;1567279094;asciilifeform;( from my pov -- making the sig optional was ~the~ shitoshi design bug, all the other retardations are scarcely anything if stood in comparison to it )
1932694;1567279456;asciilifeform;as i understand , all that'd be needed to bring that shitshow to a permanent close, is a dozen or so blocks mined w/ '51%' thrust, containing the segshit unwinds.
1932695;1567279551;asciilifeform;it's already , likely, a +ev proposition. and the only thing preventing this nuke from firing, is the cowardice of the folx holding the detonator.
1932696;1567279671;asciilifeform;marx -- was wrong, i suspect, when wrote that 'for 200% profit, capitalist will sell mother; for 300% -- will go to almost certain noose'. he did not account for cowardice.
1932697;1567279719;BingoBoingo;Well USG.State still feels comfortable trying to throw the Cantonese speakers against the Mandarin speakers. Gotta wait for the white worms to internalize their worthlessness
1932698;1567279776;asciilifeform;BingoBoingo: nobody ever 'internalized worthlessness', they sit around w/ wagner an' cyanide and bloviate re their 'aryan superiority' even as the tanks wind'em up onto treads
1932699;1567279829;asciilifeform;see also mircea_popescu's 'and they won't yield' piece re subj.
1932700;1567279851;BingoBoingo;At some point some of them realize there are tanks treads to evade for which there is no answer other than Mujica's "No hay que ponerse delante de las tanques"